Official hints for the next chapter received

TaSheen

Syldras wrote: »

I thought of Alinor, but it's weirdly unrelated to the Archive, so I'm just wondering why it's in the center of that picture.

Maybe the Archive is going to incorporate bits of that sort of architecture eventually?

Elsonso

Yes, the city in the orb is from Summerset Isle.

freespirit

Syldras wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

That was my first thought, but how does the castle in that orb in the middle fit in?

I have the furnishing of that orb, the scenery in it changes, I would need to check but I'm pretty sure that scene is already part of it.

If I'm honest I've never actually looked really closely at the changing scenes, maybe I should have!

OtarTheMad

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

I went onto the PTS and checked that area and there is a boat. PTS, I don't think, has been updated since Infinite Archive dropped. That doesn't mean though that the boat wasn't planted at that time.

Interesting find.

ZOS_Kevin

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

This I will confirm. We were just switching back to the Infinite Archive header from the holiday header we had before.

Jaraal

Elsonso wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

There is also an obscure lore book related to lanterns.

Lantern of the Infinite Clue

A manse most vile now crouches here
Colovians woeful, true

Where reapers march and land is parch'd
We've placed your tribute clue

So seek this dreamer's wisdom dark
As the god of secrets screams

Eyes close now players, here lies your card
As a lantern ere long gleams

My first thought when seeing the Hermaeus Mora eye on the stained glass puzzle was that it looks a lot like the original Mora from the Vile Manse in Reaper's March. The manse was built on top of an ancient Ayleid (Saliache) ruin, so you may be on to something.

Also, that poem seems to be about a Tales of Tribute card. Perhaps some art from the decks is relevant to the discussion?

Syldras

freespirit wrote: »

I have the furnishing of that orb, the scenery in it changes, I would need to check but I'm pretty sure that scene is already part of it.
If I'm honest I've never actually looked really closely at the changing scenes, maybe I should have!

I never even looked at the rest of the furniture because I spend the few points I earn per week on lorebook furnishings...

alternatelder

Elsonso wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

There is also an obscure lore book related to lanterns.

Lantern of the Infinite Clue

A manse most vile now crouches here
Colovians woeful, true

Where reapers march and land is parch'd
We've placed your tribute clue

So seek this dreamer's wisdom dark
As the god of secrets screams

Eyes close now players, here lies your card
As a lantern ere long gleams

It's literally a clue to find a tribute card upgrade, it is indeed sitting below some lanterns. This was the last clue I received not long ago.

Udrath

Maybe Mannimarco returns and kills Vanus Galerion. Maybe each icon represents a faction, one side is darker than the other and they all collide in the middle.

Bottom icons - mages guild, order the lamp, scribes of mora.

Top icons - aeylid lichs, worm cult, reachmen

Elsonso

Jaraal wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

There is also an obscure lore book related to lanterns.

Lantern of the Infinite Clue

A manse most vile now crouches here
Colovians woeful, true

Where reapers march and land is parch'd
We've placed your tribute clue

So seek this dreamer's wisdom dark
As the god of secrets screams

Eyes close now players, here lies your card
As a lantern ere long gleams

My first thought when seeing the Hermaeus Mora eye on the stained glass puzzle was that it looks a lot like the original Mora from the Vile Manse in Reaper's March. The manse was built on top of an ancient Ayleid (Saliache) ruin, so you may be on to something.

Also, that poem seems to be about a Tales of Tribute card. Perhaps some art from the decks is relevant to the discussion?

It is part of the "Tomes of Tributes" books for Tales of Tribute and it leads to a card found in a box on the ground below a lantern in Reapers March. I originally discounted it as just fluff content around a Tales of Tribute card, but then I remembered that ZOS likes that game a lot more than I do and probably expects that people play it.

May mean nothing. I am looking for connections to Reaper's March, where the Falinesti Autumn site is located.

(edit: verbs)

Syldras

Elsonso wrote: »

Nothing in the content that has been received this year suggests Solstheim, yet.

I've been searching a bit (although I might lack a bit of concentration, it's midnight here), and unfortunately didn't find everything I still had in mind. I found this one, from the Feral Gallery, where Solstheim is the only "new" place that's mentioned - although of course, that doesn't mean much:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Beasts_of_the_Gallery

When it comes to Miraak, he plays a role in Quires Wind, where 2 letters by him can be found, one including these lines:
"Do your work properly and I will be summoned out of Apocrypha when an altered book is read in Nirn. But if you fail me, Sabinius, I will still be here. And I will be very angry about that. Long ago the Atmorans betrayed me. Then they dared to name me traitor! With your help I will finally teach their descendants the error of their ways."
Source: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:First_Servant's_Letter,_Page_2
He's still trapped, but he is trying to find a way out, at least.

And, a bit unrelated as these things aren't hints, but I found them during my search and some people might find it interesting: There's a Skaal priest in Morthal named Gellhidil, Lady Clarisse once mentioned "a scribe who lives near White Ridge Barrow on Solstheim", and, we have this recipe, which refers to Raven Rock, which shouldn't even exists right now, which would be a lore incongruency (wouldn't be the first time if I think of Seyda Neen) - or maybe it's just a different Dunmer town by the same name:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Raven_Rock_Baked_Ash_Yams
So much for what could be on Solstheim during the 2nd era. Although, knowing the old lore, I too wouldn't expect much there. No settlements at least, except for Skaal Village.

That said, I don't think it will be Solstheim this year, either. Maybe 2025 or 2026.

This year, even if the pictures posted yesterday look very Bosmer-themed, I guess it's the area around Skingrad. The reference to Ayleid ruins and "would-be emperors" fits, and South West is the right direction. I don't think the emperor part neccessarily refers to the Tharn family, though. Maybe the war in Cyrodiil is meant, with "emperors" changing quite regularly

Elsonso

Syldras wrote: »

This year, even if the pictures posted yesterday look very Bosmer-themed, I guess it's the area around Skingrad. The reference to Ayleid ruins and "would-be emperors" fits, and South West is the right direction. I don't think the emperor part neccessarily refers to the Tharn family, though. Maybe the war in Cyrodiil is meant, with "emperors" changing quite regularly

I think that the letter refers to the upcoming prologue quest. This will probably start on the coast of Greenshade. That does not mean that the Chapter will take place anywhere near Greenshade. The prologue A Mortal's Touch quest for Blackwood started nowhere associated with Blackwood.

While it probably starts out with Green Pact and Bosmer stuff, I think it will transition into whatever the real story is before the quest ends.

However, even if it means the prologue is in Greenshade, that does not prevent it from having delusions of grandeur and also referring to the main story, which could take place in the SW portion of Cyrodiil. That would make the "would-be emperors" more relevant, and everyone knows there are plenty of Saliache ruins around Cyrodiil. Practically can't sneeze there without some Ayleid ghost saying "gesundheit"

tomofhyrule

Hold on - I just thought of another thing.

Beragon. Yeah, he's Eveli's brother, but there was a reason she went to him in the first place. He was a scribe for some of the Longhouse Emperors, which is why he's able to decipher those codes.

+1 for something to do with Cyrodiil.

I'm wondering if the story's going in a Gates of Oblivion direction this time: a Q2 chapter of the West Wield anchored on Skingrad and trying to solve the Falinesti mystery, probably with the help of the Mages Guild, and then a Q4 DLC which is Falinesti as a hub city and the zone is whichever Daedric Realm it ended up in.

It'd fit with a lot of what we're all suggesting at least

Soarora

I would be surprised if we get a Q4 DLC since we’re getting story arcs instead of year-long stories, but I guess we’ll find out.

Syldras

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Beragon. Yeah, he's Eveli's brother, but there was a reason she went to him in the first place. He was a scribe for some of the Longhouse Emperors, which is why he's able to decipher those codes.

Thought she sent him because he can read.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I'm wondering if the story's going in a Gates of Oblivion direction this time: a Q2 chapter of the West Wield anchored on Skingrad and trying to solve the Falinesti mystery, probably with the help of the Mages Guild, and then a Q4 DLC which is Falinesti as a hub city and the zone is whichever Daedric Realm it ended up in.

As nice as it would be, I don't think we'll get a Q4 story dlc this year.

Elsonso

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

I went onto the PTS and checked that area and there is a boat. PTS, I don't think, has been updated since Infinite Archive dropped. That doesn't mean though that the boat wasn't planted at that time.

Interesting find.

I do not recall that boat being there last time I was in the location.

Fata1moose

Elsonso wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

I went onto the PTS and checked that area and there is a boat. PTS, I don't think, has been updated since Infinite Archive dropped. That doesn't mean though that the boat wasn't planted at that time.

Interesting find.

I do not recall that boat being there last time I was in the location.

It's been there. You can see it in the background from this video 8 years ago:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aNjrQbjYdvU

tomofhyrule

And here's another thought...


This is the map as it is now, with the four Falinesti seasonal sites marked.

We've always thought that Bosmer (and Bretons) couldn't really get content because their zones were filled out, but they did give the Bretons a go in High Isle (nominally, at least. Until the Alliance leaders usurped what could have been a Breton story and left it to be a pile of... well, that's not relevant to this topic)

Falinesti was always a possibility since it was technically no longer on Nirn. But if they wanted to fill out the map... well, there's really only one useful landmass near Valenwood that they could use - the West Weald of Cyrodiil. Because I doubt that little strip of Elsweyr would work for it.

Syldras wrote: »

As nice as it would be, I don't think we'll get a Q4 story dlc this year.

That's true - we don't know if they'll go for a split story or what.

We did only get one story worth of content this year, but it was split over two zones, so we have that possibility as well - Skingrad as a hub to unlock Falinesti as an Artaeum-like zone? But after the Q3 QoL and Q4 IA patches (both free), we don't know what to expect. Will we go back to another Q3 set of dungeons? A new zone? A new arena? Something totally different?

All I know is I really hope Q1 is dungeons again. I'm really missing new dungeons. And their associated fashion motifs.

BuffNukem

Elsonso wrote: »

I do not recall that boat being there last time I was in the location.

That boat has been there since at least 2015.
You can see it there in this video showing the Enchanting Survey in Grahtwood from 31 Aug 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjrQbjYdvU

I'd be impressed if they had that much forethought to add it way back then in preparation for this chapter's story.

Elsonso

Fata1moose wrote: »

It's been there. You can see it in the background from this video 8 years ago:

Thanks for that.

Jaraal

Elsonso wrote: »

Fata1moose wrote: »

It's been there. You can see it in the background from this video 8 years ago:

Thanks for that.

Yes, good detective work, thanks.

vsrs_au

I'd be happy enough if the new content included Eveli. She's one of my favourite NPCs. Many players seem to dislike her, but I find her personality a refreshing change from all the NPCs that are way too serious and self-important.

LokiPagan

Grendalism

Surely it’s a misdirectional clue?

The boat takes you to a vortex in sea that thrusts you into Fallout 6, as to link up with the new TV series?

RebornV3x

I hope the portal has something to do with Winterhold and the College of Winterhold seem like some type of magical elements one can only hope

James-Wayne

I re-photoshopped the Shard

Mycelius

BuffNukem wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

I do not recall that boat being there last time I was in the location.

That boat has been there since at least 2015.
You can see it there in this video showing the Enchanting Survey in Grahtwood from 31 Aug 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjrQbjYdvU

I'd be impressed if they had that much forethought to add it way back then in preparation for this chapter's story.

That particular Dunmer boat is not new in Greenshade too.
I'd like to think that it's a story breadcrumb i.e. vampire hunter Mels Adrys' boat (remember you help him investigate something something not far from there).

IviRo

Anyone who is pinning their hopes on Falinesti may not. There will be another location related to Bosmer.

Jaraal

I was wondering if the stylized blue tree in the shard could possibly represent a hist tree. It seems to have an exaggerated base, or root system. We know the story of the Saliache elves as it relates to the Remnant of Argon. Could the southwest coast possibly be in Murkmire? There was also a deposed emperor (Kastav) who was exiled to Murkmire. Perhaps the ruins we are supposed to stay away from could be the Ayleid Nexus? It could definitely be connected to Fargrave via portal somehow. Not sure how it would tie in to the theorized Bosmer story, although anything's possible.

I know not everybody has access to Murkmire, although it was given away for free as a daily reward at one point. It wouldn't take much for them to make it a part of the base game, so everyone could have access to the prequel.... if that's where it could possibly start.

ArchMikem

Has anyone remembered/considered Ithelia, the Prince of Paths may be referenced here in those glass shards? With memory of her restored to Torvesard and us, she's going to regain some semblance of existence.

What if she had a hand in Falinesti? Before Mora erased her from memory.