Official hints for the next chapter received

Elsonso · January 8

Is there a resource for the original, unedited, fragments?

AScarlato · January 8

Been away for a while, but all this talk of Falinesti has got me excited. I need to temper this in case this is off base lol.

The_Saint · January 8

Looks like fargrave. maybe it will be the harbor to another deadric realm

Elsonso · January 8

The_Saint wrote: »

Looks like fargrave. maybe it will be the harbor to another deadric realm

I was just in Fargrave yesterday thinking about the unrealized potential there is there.

Syldras · January 8

Just throwing this document from Blackwood in, because I find it interesting that it mentions Necrom, Solstheim and Skingrad:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

Syldras · January 8

Ah, yes, and in case you wonder: The Painted Eye was the same group that invaded Kemel-Ze in Necrom.

Warhawke_80 · January 8

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Well that is clearly a reference to... the UNSC Pillar of Autumn.

HALO/ESO crossover confirmed!

So now I have a reason to leave Destiny2?

Oh happy day!

But seriously...Falinesti that's Valenwood right?

tomofhyrule · January 8

Syldras wrote: »

Just throwing this document from Blackwood in, because I find it interesting that it mentions Necrom, Solstheim and Skingrad:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

I don't know if most of that has much to do with anything. The mention of "Solstheim" is specifically as a barren place to send the army in exile, akin to saying "ship them off to Antarctica so we never have to deal with them again." I wouldn't put stock in that. Besides, Solstheim has literally nothing but a solitary tribe of Skaal at this point in history - it doesn't even get Thirsk until the early 3rd era, so there's nothing there.

The Necrom one is interesting since you don't meet that NPC, even though the Painted Eye does show up in the zone. However, there are also references in that text to Cespar and Whiterun that have as much weight as the Skingrad reference.

Their stated goals seem more in line with the Ascendant Order, but 'total liberation' a pretty common goal for any organization in this style of history. Still, this is twice we've seen the Painted Eye and we still know basically nothing about them.

GoAvs34 · January 8

I tried to clean up the placement and hue/saturation/contrast a bit

GoAvs34 · January 8

oh looks like someone else did too! Hope we can get that 4th piece soon soon!

Elsonso · January 8

msetten wrote: »

Some observations that my guild made:
- Pact probably refers to the Green Pact, given the fact of the autumn leaves and that Beragon and his sister Eveli are Bosmer
- The south-west coast reference might not refer to the new chapter zone, but more likely to the prologue quest which always starts in a base-game zone, placing it probably in Greenshade.

This is all I was able to get from the letter posted by UESP on Twitter. Hopefully, the Wilderqueen is ok.

We are supposed to stay away from any Ayleid ruins we come across. No stopping to craft any Magnus' Gift set pieces on the way.

I have no intention of finding Eveli, so no worries there.

Elvenheart · January 8

I think they’re saving Winterhold for their 20th year anniversary.

Syldras · January 8

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I don't know if most of that has much to do with anything. The mention of "Solstheim" is specifically as a barren place to send the army in exile, akin to saying "ship them off to Antarctica so we never have to deal with them again." I wouldn't put stock in that. Besides, Solstheim has literally nothing but a solitary tribe of Skaal at this point in history - it doesn't even get Thirsk until the early 3rd era, so there's nothing there.

The Necrom one is interesting since you don't meet that NPC, even though the Painted Eye does show up in the zone. However, there are also references in that text to Cespar and Whiterun that have as much weight as the Skingrad reference.

Their stated goals seem more in line with the Ascendant Order, but 'total liberation' a pretty common goal for any organization in this style of history. Still, this is twice we've seen the Painted Eye and we still know basically nothing about them.

Of course, Solstheim is plausible in that context as a prison, but don't think it's a coincidence to find all those places listed there, that were also hinted on at different times and from different characters in the past few years - it seems like a roadmap for the upcoming years to me (even theme-wise: we have that "liberation" thing there that was a big topic in High Isle and we also have a Hermaeus Mora reference with the groups name).

I mean, there were enough hints, Necrom became true, some others are still open until today: Lady Clarisse mentioned wanting to travel to Telvanni Peninsula in High Isle, and during one event quest, vampire hunter Mel Adrys even mentioned bringing the ashes of his brother back to Morrowind for burial rites (a direct hint on Necrom as a city). Lyris Titanborn mentioned Skingrad during Markarth. There were also texts mentioning Solstheim (a lore book in Apocrypha, for example) and now we have the Allmaker crates. There are recurring hints of all kinds on Solstheim, Skingrad, as there were on Telvanni Peninsula.

Btw, in Blackwood, the Painted Eye was searching for an Ayleid artefact, and until the end it was all a bit fuzzy what the whole thing was about. Blackwood was also the last place where we met Eveli and her brother.

Generally, it would be very strange to introduce some mysterious new group without ever solving the mystery who they are and what they're actually planning. The Painted Eye is around for a while and I think this year they could finally play a bigger role.

msetten · January 8

I just received information that at least one of the fourth fragments is on its way to a guild in the Netherlands (Bethesda Benelux informed us that all four fragments are coming to my country, but unfortunately FedEx has delayed two packages which are still in France). So there is indeed a fourth fragment being released to guilds/content creators. Just waiting for it to arrive or someone to share it.

Elsonso · January 8

Syldras wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I don't know if most of that has much to do with anything. The mention of "Solstheim" is specifically as a barren place to send the army in exile, akin to saying "ship them off to Antarctica so we never have to deal with them again." I wouldn't put stock in that. Besides, Solstheim has literally nothing but a solitary tribe of Skaal at this point in history - it doesn't even get Thirsk until the early 3rd era, so there's nothing there.

The Necrom one is interesting since you don't meet that NPC, even though the Painted Eye does show up in the zone. However, there are also references in that text to Cespar and Whiterun that have as much weight as the Skingrad reference.

Their stated goals seem more in line with the Ascendant Order, but 'total liberation' a pretty common goal for any organization in this style of history. Still, this is twice we've seen the Painted Eye and we still know basically nothing about them.

Of course, Solstheim is plausible in that context as a prison, but don't think it's a coincidence to find all those places listed there, that were also hinted on at different times and from different characters in the past few years - it seems like a roadmap for the upcoming years to me (even theme-wise: we have that "liberation" thing there that was a big topic in High Isle and we also have a Hermaeus Mora reference with the groups name).

I mean, there were enough hints, Necrom became true, some others are still open until today: Lady Clarisse mentioned wanting to travel to Telvanni Peninsula in High Isle, and during one event quest, vampire hunter Mel Adrys even mentioned bringing the ashes of his brother back to Morrowind for burial rites (a direct hint on Necrom as a city). Lyris Titanborn mentioned Skingrad during Markarth. There were also texts mentioning Solstheim (a lore book in Apocrypha, for example) and now we have the Allmaker crates. There are recurring hints of all kinds on Solstheim, Skingrad, as there were on Telvanni Peninsula.

Btw, in Blackwood, the Painted Eye was searching for an Ayleid artefact, and until the end it was all a bit fuzzy what the whole thing was about. Blackwood was also the last place where we met Eveli and her brother.

Generally, it would be very strange to introduce some mysterious new group without ever solving the mystery who they are and what they're actually planning. The Painted Eye is around for a while and I think this year they could finally play a bigger role.

Nothing in the content that has been received this year suggests Solstheim, yet. The Painted Eye seems to ubiquitous at this point. We might meet them, but predicting locations is like trying to use the Bandaari for that purpose. They may be involved, but they seem to be everywhere.

The images, to me, suggest Hermaeus Mora, Khenarthi, and something Ayleid, at this time. Since they hinted that the story from 2023 was being continued, we can guess there will be some sort of Oblivion connection. The fall colors and leaves do not yet fit, but they will.

I considered the Falinesti Autumn site is in Reaper's March, but Mephala and the Arbordawn seemed more interested in that. I would expect something more Vaermina or Peryite related, given the issue with Apocrypha.

I await the final piece of the puzzle.

emilyhyoyeon · January 8

GoAvs34 wrote: »

I tried to clean up the placement and hue/saturation/contrast a bit

Not really related to the chapter speculation but I think this thing is so beautiful looking.

I'd pay good money for a nice quality replica of this all together, made of stained glass or something. That's the kind of merch I want to see for TES. Preferably not limited like the amulet of kings was.

Syldras · January 8

Elsonso wrote: »

Nothing in the content that has been received this year suggests Solstheim, yet.

Oh, there was something in a lore book, but I have to look that up again, it's been a while.

Btw, we also had mentions of Miraak. Makes me wonder if we'll see him sooner or later in ESO (not neccessarily this year).

Jaraal · January 8

tomofhyrule wrote: »

EDIT: Wait - hold on, I just reread the letter. "Don't allow any would-be Emperors or Saliache ruins to delay you."
"Would-be Emperors" is pointing to Cyrodiil. "Saliache" is uncommon in TES lingo, only seen so far in the markings from the Ayleid crates. However, the Adalab-a does reference an "imperatum saliache," which seems to be an old name for the Ayleid empire. The Ayleids were all over, but again, we could be talking about Cyrodiil - unfortunately that's also looking at some of Valenwood as well. Still, the West Weald's close to Valenwood and there are quite a few ruins there.

I was thinking that "would-be Emperor" could be referring to Clivia Tharn, who went missing at some point during the Daedric invasion of Imperial City (White Gold Tower Clivia is an outlier). The Tharn family history begins with them being employed by the Saliache as slave overseers, so there could be some connection. Also, while the Tharns were from Cheydenhal, rather than Skingrad, it could point to the next chapter involving some undeveloped story lines in some area of Cyrodiil.

Elvenheart · January 8

Maybe the pieces represent a seal that imprisoned something until the seal is/was broken?

TaSheen · January 8

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

GoAvs34 wrote: »

I tried to clean up the placement and hue/saturation/contrast a bit

Not really related to the chapter speculation but I think this thing is so beautiful looking.

I'd pay good money for a nice quality replica of this all together, made of stained glass or something. That's the kind of merch I want to see for TES. Preferably not limited like the amulet of kings was.

Agreed. It's truly a beautiful piece of art. Would love to have one to mount in my octagonal window in the living room.

Jaraal · January 8

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

Syldras · January 8

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

Ashnarug · January 8

I guess we will find out shortly with the announcement in a couple of weeks.

In 2017/18 we had a Two Chapters and one DLC (Morrowind/Clockwork/Summerset) which were renamed "The Daedric War". Now that we have a two years (2023/2024) storyline involving Hermaeus Mora (I think) what should it be renamed ?

Luke_Flamesword · January 8

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

TaSheen · January 8

Ashnarug wrote: »

I guess we will find out shortly with the announcement in a couple of weeks.

In 2017/18 we had a Two Chapters and one DLC (Morrowind/Clockwork/Summerset) which were renamed "The Daedric War". Now that we have a two years (2023/2024) storyline involving Hermaeus Mora (I think) what should it be renamed ?

Tides of Fate

The Fated Tides Cycle

[I haven't played Necrom yet....]

Syldras · January 8

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

That was my first thought, but how does the castle in that orb in the middle fit in?

TaSheen · January 8

Syldras wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

That was my first thought, but how does the castle in that orb in the middle fit in?

That looks a bit like the Shimmerene area to me.

Syldras · January 8

I thought of Alinor, but it's weirdly unrelated to the Archive, so I'm just wondering why it's in the center of that picture.

Elsonso · January 8

Jaraal wrote: »

Probably totally unrelated, but on the SW coast of Grahtwood, among the Saliache ruins in a cove west of the Falinesti Winter site, there is a dark elf boat (Telvanni?) that has two lit lanterns onboard and one on the shore nearby that match the lantern on the puzzle. I have no idea if it has always been there or not.... but ZOS usually adds new assets to the zones before activating prequel quests. I couldn't find anything unusual or obvious nearby, but it wouldn't hurt to have more folks looking around for clues.

There is also an obscure lore book related to lanterns.

Lantern of the Infinite Clue

A manse most vile now crouches here
Colovians woeful, true

Where reapers march and land is parch'd
We've placed your tribute clue

So seek this dreamer's wisdom dark
As the god of secrets screams

Eyes close now players, here lies your card
As a lantern ere long gleams

Soarora · January 8

Syldras wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

New header picture at ESO's twitter:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/header_photo

It looks like Infinite Archive promo art and there is 2023 year on it, so I don't think that it have anything to do with new year and new chapter.

That was my first thought, but how does the castle in that orb in the middle fit in?

I think it’s just the giant orb in IA. You can get a furnishing version of the orb and it shows photos of different cities. I’m pretty sure it’s Summerset loading screen like TaSheen mentioned.