Maintenance for the week of November 25:
• [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – November 25, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 7:00AM EST (12:00 UTC)
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – November 27, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EST (14:00 UTC)
• PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – November 27, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EST (14:00 UTC)

Maintenance on 28th

  • ApoAlaia
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    They haven't re-scheduled in the past. They won't do it this time. And probably never will.

    They have in fact re-scheduled in the past.

    Just an example from this year:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/630897/patch-maintenance-on-easter-monday-can-you-please-just-not#latest
  • ApoAlaia
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    Rejoice, they have extended the event \o/
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  • AcadianPaladin
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    Kudos on adding a day. I'm still not sure why the original scheduling when the concerns were so very predictable. That said, I'm guessing things tend to 'rest' over the weekend because most of the devs hopefully can relax over the weekend, spend time with family and maybe play. So I was hoping they'd take a hard look at this Mon AM and at least talk to us. And they did. :)
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • Sakiri
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    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.
  • BansheeVT
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    They silently changed the maintenance from 8hrs to 10hrs btw.

    So no, I don't work till 8pm CET. I'm actually usually online early on Tuesdays cause the trader bids end at 3pm CET and then I have in-game "work" to do but ZOS still doesn't care about trading guilds it seems.
    @BansheeVT - GM of 'Valinor Traders'.

    Valinor Trading Union:
    Valinor Traders: Vivec, 500k sales, <500k sales = 25k fee, <250k sales = kick
    Valinor Overflow: Vivec back row, 150k min sales OR 15k donation
    Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales OR 10k donation
    Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales OR 8k donation
    Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales OR 5k donation
  • acastanza_ESO
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    Holy crap they listened! Praise Auri-El!
  • h9dlb
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    Didn't even know there was an event on
  • patdedub
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    No one in ESO plays ESO they don’t know or care
  • Tandor
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    Doubtless some of us are at an age where we're retired. Mind you, that also means we're also at an age where we probably don't get worked up over whether or not we can get to play a computer game :wink: !
  • Alamakot
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    I hope problems with forced logouts on tping to another zone and impossibility to log in after will be solved in this patch
  • TwiceBornStar
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    El-even. Ele-ven. E-leven. Elev-en. E-lev-en. El-ev-en. 11. Those are two digits. A 1 and a 1. Two times one.

    *cries*

  • Tandor
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    Alamakot wrote: »
    I hope problems with forced logouts on tping to another zone and impossibility to log in after will be solved in this patch

    I haven't experienced that issue, but while it's possible it could just be dealt with at their end it is only maintenance, not a patch as such.
  • herkemur
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    I just wish they wouldn't do the NA/EU server maintenance at the same time as the PTS maintenance.
    This is when many players go to another game - maybe a new game like Baldur's Gate that several of my Guildmates are migrating to.
    And maybe total inaccessibility to ESO will just p*ss enough people off to not come back.
    Edited by herkemur on November 28, 2023 12:46PM
  • davidtk
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    So some of us have shift work. Or other than "typical" hours. So...
    Really sorry for my english
  • CountonMe
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    What are they fixing? Did they post the details of this maintenance? I looked everywhere but last maintenance announcement is from Nov 17th.

    P.S.
    I DID find the thread saying they extended the event so the complaints in this thread are moot.
  • wowi70
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    davidtk wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    So some of us have shift work. Or other than "typical" hours. So...

    Or holidays etc. ZENI will never allow server maintenance at US during daytime. Only on EU server this will happen.
  • Aurielle
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    davidtk wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    So some of us have shift work. Or other than "typical" hours. So...

    It’s amazing how many people out there just assume everyone works 9-5. I haven’t worked a traditional 9-5 job in over a decade! Shift workers like us represent a significant proportion of the workforce.
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    herkemur wrote: »
    I just wish they wouldn't do the NA/EU server maintenance at the same time as the PTS maintenance.
    This is when many players go to another game - maybe a new game like Baldur's Gate that several of my Guildmates are migrating to.
    And maybe total inaccessibility to ESO will just p*ss enough people off to not come back.


    Me myself I am quite relaxed since I dont have ESO+ anymore. It is totally relieving now that I know I do not pay them for this! And yes I can farm still. Just a little bit of organizing but it works out fine. I even reduced my time in TESO and found out that others mothers got good daughters too ;)
  • twev
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    Doubtless some of us are at an age where we're retired. Mind you, that also means we're also at an age where we probably don't get worked up over whether or not we can get to play a computer game :wink: !

    And I have friends who are paraplegic.
    Some are retired, some are service related issues.
    Playing video games is one of the few things they can do that reminds them of being agile and running through fields.
    Computer video games can be more important to some people than just wasting time.
    There are people who use action video games as mental therapy from being physically broken.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • Jaimeh
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    I don't mind the long maintenance hours, just the fact that it happens on the last day of the event, so I will miss out on a ticket and also the chance to finish the new style pages.

    EDIT: apparently the event has been extended for a day, praise the divines! thank you ZOS! :smile:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/647779/gates-of-oblivion-celebration-extension
    Edited by Jaimeh on November 28, 2023 1:35PM
  • ellmarie
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    WHY ARE YOU DOING MAINTENANCE ON THE MORNING OF COLLECTING OUR LAST TICKETS?!!!!

    EDIT: Just seeing they extended it a day. Uggg, So maintenance just had to be today eh?
    Edited by ellmarie on November 28, 2023 1:41PM
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  • centime
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    I don't mind the long maintenance hours, just the fact that it happens on the last day of the event, so I will miss out on a ticket and also the chance to finish the new style pages.

    @Jaimeh they are extending the event by one day to compensate for the maintenance. Good that ZOS responded to the outcry over maintenance during events.
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    wowi70 wrote: »
    herkemur wrote: »
    I just wish they wouldn't do the NA/EU server maintenance at the same time as the PTS maintenance.
    This is when many players go to another game - maybe a new game like Baldur's Gate that several of my Guildmates are migrating to.
    And maybe total inaccessibility to ESO will just p*ss enough people off to not come back.


    Me myself I am quite relaxed since I dont have ESO+ anymore. It is totally relieving now that I know I do not pay them for this! And yes I can farm still. Just a little bit of organizing but it works out fine. I even reduced my time in TESO and found out that others mothers got good daughters too ;)

    Yes, not having ESO+ makes it more tolerable. I recently returned to ESO after a four year break… I’ve been back for little over a month, and during that time, there has been more downtime for maintenance in this game than I’ve seen in any of the other games I play combined. It’s a little nuts that there is a 10 hour maintenance today, considering how recently we just had another extended maintenance.

    I used to sub year-round, but I learned my lesson when I quit back in 2019 due to ongoing unresolved issues in the game. If I was subbed at the moment, I’d be pretty frustrated with the sheer amount of lost “premium” game time I’d already paid for.

    Given the frequency of lengthy maintenance windows in ESO, it makes more financial sense to me as a player to simply buy the chapters on sale so you always have access to major systems (jewelry crafting, antiquities), and then sub periodically (maybe 3-4 times a year, max) just to temporarily free up some inventory space and avail of the less important DLCs during events.
  • davidtk
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    davidtk wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    So some of us have shift work. Or other than "typical" hours. So...

    It’s amazing how many people out there just assume everyone works 9-5. I haven’t worked a traditional 9-5 job in over a decade! Shift workers like us represent a significant proportion of the workforce.

    Yeah, exactly..
    Everyone assumes that everyone in the EU has an 8 hour work day 8-16 / 9-17 and that every schoolchild has to be in school.
    There are many reasons why people are at home in the EU and the constant taunts that it doesn't affect you (EU), you are supposed to be at work or school is a joke.

    Tbh I've never worked anything other than shift work :D
    Really sorry for my english
  • alternatelder
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    So they extend the event a day, but then extend maintenance by 2 hours? :|
  • Jaimeh
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    centime wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    I don't mind the long maintenance hours, just the fact that it happens on the last day of the event, so I will miss out on a ticket and also the chance to finish the new style pages.

    @Jaimeh they are extending the event by one day to compensate for the maintenance. Good that ZOS responded to the outcry over maintenance during events.

    Yup, I saw that as well, such a good response from ZOS, agreed! :smile:
  • Ramber
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    10 hours to push the changes from test servers to live? why?
  • wowi70
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    wowi70 wrote: »
    herkemur wrote: »
    I just wish they wouldn't do the NA/EU server maintenance at the same time as the PTS maintenance.
    This is when many players go to another game - maybe a new game like Baldur's Gate that several of my Guildmates are migrating to.
    And maybe total inaccessibility to ESO will just p*ss enough people off to not come back.


    Me myself I am quite relaxed since I dont have ESO+ anymore. It is totally relieving now that I know I do not pay them for this! And yes I can farm still. Just a little bit of organizing but it works out fine. I even reduced my time in TESO and found out that others mothers got good daughters too ;)

    Yes, not having ESO+ makes it more tolerable. I recently returned to ESO after a four year break… I’ve been back for little over a month, and during that time, there has been more downtime for maintenance in this game than I’ve seen in any of the other games I play combined. It’s a little nuts that there is a 10 hour maintenance today, considering how recently we just had another extended maintenance.

    I used to sub year-round, but I learned my lesson when I quit back in 2019 due to ongoing unresolved issues in the game. If I was subbed at the moment, I’d be pretty frustrated with the sheer amount of lost “premium” game time I’d already paid for.

    Given the frequency of lengthy maintenance windows in ESO, it makes more financial sense to me as a player to simply buy the chapters on sale so you always have access to major systems (jewelry crafting, antiquities), and then sub periodically (maybe 3-4 times a year, max) just to temporarily free up some inventory space and avail of the less important DLCs during events.

    Quite similar to me. I came back from a 5-year break and realized nothing has changed to the better at all. At that time I had ESO+ and was really annoyed by the amount of maintenances. Guess if all players would do so we see that ZENI could change. But how to make all players work together?
  • Sakiri
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    twev wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't understand why EU is all riled up. Do you guys not work during the day? You should miss most of it.

    Doubtless some of us are at an age where we're retired. Mind you, that also means we're also at an age where we probably don't get worked up over whether or not we can get to play a computer game :wink: !

    And I have friends who are paraplegic.
    Some are retired, some are service related issues.
    Playing video games is one of the few things they can do that reminds them of being agile and running through fields.
    Computer video games can be more important to some people than just wasting time.
    There are people who use action video games as mental therapy from being physically broken.

    Look, I'm a disabled housewife.

    I've been playing these games for over 20 years. They're my social life, as well.

    Server maintenance happens, it's not always convenient, and it annoys me as well, but I'm not all riled up over it. And yes, I'm paying for ESO Plus. I'm also paying a subscription for FFXIV at the same time. Maintenance is in the contract. For both.

    "ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time. Except as prohibited by applicable law and subject to the Statutory Obligations (as defined in Section 1), ZeniMax reserves the right to change and/or update Content without notice to You."

    They don't even need to tell you the servers are going down for maintenance. Some people seem to think that paying a subscription entitles them to on demand access to the servers. It does not. It does not in any other MMORPG with a subscription model either.

    MOST people will be working during most of the downtime. That's why they pick the times they do. Least traffic = a good time to do maintenance. They're not trying to spite people. Find something else to do. Read a book, troll reddit, watch a movie on the couch... maybe even spend quality time with the family, idk. You'll survive.
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