Dungeon Finder Known Issues

Fallefel

Criteria bug workaround can also be achieved by swapping roles to something else and back.

Einar_Hrafnarsson

There is also the issue that the Dungeontool does not find another player when someone left mid dungeon. Even if it is just a DPS. It just never refills even though it should INSTANTLY refill when there is only a DPS missing. We all know how long DPS queues are especially because Tanks and Healers are kept out because of the bugs mentioned by OP.

So it makes absolutely no sense that the dungeon does not refill.

Gnesnig

Einar_Hrafnarsson wrote: »

There is also the issue that the Dungeontool does not find another player when someone left mid dungeon. Even if it is just a DPS. It just never refills even though it should INSTANTLY refill when there is only a DPS missing. We all know how long DPS queues are especially because Tanks and Healers are kept out because of the bugs mentioned by OP.

So it makes absolutely no sense that the dungeon does not refill.

Did you read that the work-around is about who is the leader of the group? So if a DPS is missing, but the leader is a tank, make the other DPS the leader and you should fill up faster.

Einar_Hrafnarsson

Gnesnig wrote: »

Einar_Hrafnarsson wrote: »

There is also the issue that the Dungeontool does not find another player when someone left mid dungeon. Even if it is just a DPS. It just never refills even though it should INSTANTLY refill when there is only a DPS missing. We all know how long DPS queues are especially because Tanks and Healers are kept out because of the bugs mentioned by OP.

So it makes absolutely no sense that the dungeon does not refill.

Did you read that the work-around is about who is the leader of the group? So if a DPS is missing, but the leader is a tank, make the other DPS the leader and you should fill up faster.

That does rarely work. At least for my wife and me. So it is not really a workaround for us.

redlink1979

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DuckFayth wrote: »

I echo what was asked by another, what about 2 person groups? I've certainly noticed differences in queue times depending on who starts the queue in a 2man group.

Great question. We've found 2 player groups are slightly impacted (specifically when there is 1 DPS and 1 Tank/Healer as lead) but not nearly as much as 3 player groups. In this scenario, the workaround of making sure the Tank/Healer is not lead still applies and should help.

@ZOS_GinaBruno What about the scenario of 2 players (DDs) already running a dungeon (the case where, the fake tank and the fake healer quit at start)?
I've ran some dungeons from start to end (eg. Lair of Maarselok) without the finder tool finding anyone to replace the quitting roles (tank n healer).

ForzaRammer

Here is a suggestion: get rid of the ready checks, that will definitely make your queue logic simpler

FeedbackOnly

I want to point out I reported this last year and thread was moved 3 times at 3 different occasions

Also reported this part of the bug 3 times. This has been happening 1 year and 3 months .


The other big, I directly reported a week after the problem was very obvious but guess it's easier to move issues away from public notices

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636644/do-you-have-trouble-filling-replacements-with-dungeon-finder/p1

4th time time issue is hidden away in the forums. Why did it take a year and some months for tank and healer bug to get noticed? Both issues started last year .

FeedbackOnly

Fallefel wrote: »

Criteria bug workaround can also be achieved by swapping roles to something else and back.

Just have dps be leader. It instant queues afterwards . Why did it take so long for this issue to get addressed? If it was a dps problem wouldn't of taken a year.

FeedbackOnly

CoolBlast3 wrote: »

I appreciate the update! But I have to ask... Direct Damage?? Is that what people call Damage Dealers now a days?

(don't take this too seriously )

😝 DPS

Quethrosar

We've known these issues for a year

FeedbackOnly

Is the tank with healer problem causing dps not to be replaced in queue?

Tabatha

Xbox NA

Yesterday I solo queued for Vollenfell on my new arcanist healer. I already had the dungeon quest from Tharayya - queue popped & it didn’t port me. I knew where I was going, but it didn’t even show me in a group so I couldn’t port to group member, So i had to run to wayshrine and travel. Then guess what, they had already advanced and my dungeon quest broke. I couldn’t get my skill point. What a waste of time and such hassle.

Jaimeh

Another new finder bug I experienced recently was that a long while after finishing a 4-person dungeon and disbanding and going our merry way, as I was traveling in the overland, I got grouped again with the same people automatically. I've seen the invisible members bug a lot of times, but it was the first time I've encountered this one. Finally, one tip when the invisible members bug happens is that if the other members are guildmates and they appear offline and you are the only one appearing online and you are still out of the instance, you can check the guild roster and port to them from the roster to go to the dungeon instance (because usually the port to group member doesn't work when that bug happens).

robpr

A few more frequent bugs:
-Squad disbands, but you are stuck in "phantom group", you cannot be invited or leave group. Relogging fixes it most of the time.
-Queue pops in, ready check accepted, then some of the group members immediately turn offline and you are not ported into dungeon unless you are the leader. Relogging fixes this too
-Queue pops, ready check accepted, you are ported, loading screen but load to instance fails and you are back to the place you were before. Usually you can port to group member to continue.
-Getting the same person for the queue, that is afk and not accepting the ready check.

zaria

Thanks for the information, pass the crown or assign roles in an RND.

Another very annoying bug is that in an 4 man group its some chance some , I assume mostly the group leader see all in group go offline, this is an bug. Solution we found is to port to another zone, this make the others look online and in the dungeon so travel to them. You will still get the random dungeon bonus.

Billium813

I could be wrong, may just be wishful thinking, but I think toggling the Dungeon Mode on the Group page also helps. I've queued for a dungeon, it not instantly pop, then leave the queue, toggle the Dungeon Mode (Veteran -> Normal -> Veteran), then requeue and it instantly pop.

Rishikesa108

I've experienced that if the dungeon doesn't start... you have to take off your headphones, get up from your chair, spin around, throw a few handfuls of salt around, and then try again. It works !!!!
LOL

PeacefulAnarchy

Did this get fixed?
Today we queued healer, tank and a dps; healer crown 3 mins, no queue. Cancelled, swapped to dps crown, queue popped immediately.

Necrotech_Master

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

Did this get fixed?
Today we queued healer, tank and a dps; healer crown 3 mins, no queue. Cancelled, swapped to dps crown, queue popped immediately.

based on the way the original post is stating, the thing they fixed with this update was where it would fail to port you into a dungeon and the group members would appear offline, requiring you to manually port into the dungeon

the other issue sounds like its still TBD/still finding a fix

ApexPraedator

The dungeon finder is still bugged: If you queue solo, and someone (not you) declines the dungeon invite, you will still be in queue. But you wont find a group, or its taking ages. leving this queue after someone declines, and starting a new queue will fix that issue.

ForzaRammer

ApexPraedator wrote: »

The dungeon finder is still bugged: If you queue solo, and someone (not you) declines the dungeon invite, you will still be in queue. But you wont find a group, or its taking ages. leving this queue after someone declines, and starting a new queue will fix that issue.

Just 1 more reason to get rid of the ready check

NoticeMeArkay

Went to queue with a guild mate (Me as a healer and him as the tank) for Coral Aerie on vet.
The queue took ages so we swapped the lead and queued again. An hour passes, we get fed up and split up. Hoping it would fix things. He found a queue after 20 seconds, meanwhile my client still insists that I am already in queue and waiting for my turn.

Great.

Spiritrush

Okamiris wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi all,
We’ve been working on a fix for this that will hopefully make it into U39.

Any indication if this will be fixed with U40 or U41? Or is the new Group Finder supposed to replace the Dungeon Finder now?

Trier_Sero

Is it just me who seem not be able to get into normal random dungeon this morning? Tried on different characters and different roles, waited for half an hour as dd twice, and about 10 min as both heal and tank. Usually it takes no more than 10 min as dd and almost instant as tank or heal.

EF321

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Is it just me who seem not be able to get into normal random dungeon this morning? Tried on different characters and different roles, waited for half an hour as dd twice, and about 10 min as both heal and tank. Usually it takes no more than 10 min as dd and almost instant as tank or heal.

Same here, seems to be not working

Oznog666

Same here, after 40 minutes I used the new group tool, after finding 4 ppl we queued for a random and came in immediately. Guess too less ppl are using the normal group finder anymore

Martinus72

Today twice tried to use Dungeon Finder on my healer, twice 30+ min wait without result.
Before Patch 40 as a healer queues were always 2min tops.
Has this patch broken Dungeon Finder with Group Finder?

joergino

Absolutely nothing happened when I queued as a tank earlier today. So the simple fact remains true - if a player can't solo a particular piece of "content", it might as well not exist at all.

jle30303

I was queueing as a tank and couldn't get a RND for 40 minutes. My best guess is that the old finder is either not functional any more, or not syncing with the new one.

Like, I did check the new one periodically. And several different dungeons went past, with 2DD + 1H looking for 1T for a specific dungeon... while I was 1T in the random queue - AT LEAST ONE of those half-dozen dungeons should have paired up AUTOMATICALLY with me!

Enrik72

since Monday, I have been waiting with the tank for an hour a day and I have not reached the rnd