Floating Text/Chat Bubble addon?

Vantor

Just to clear things up, I don't mind having OPTIONAL chat bubbles at all. I just don't think it's of the highest importance at the moment since Simple Chat Bubbles works for ME instead. And even if they got implemented i would probably leave them off and still use those from the addon.The reason is mainly because i'm not an heavy RP player, and i mostly play and socialize with guildies.

@Haltus_Kain‌: No worries, everyone has RL problems, no offense taken.

nalimoleb14_ESO

And that's the thing, it works for you, which is great - but it doesn't work for others, and what's frustrating is that the easiest solution (adding optional chat bubbles) isn't very problematic. Some people are heavy RPers, some aren't, some don't even RP at all, but would still like to have the option. The problem doesn't regard those who don't want/need chat bubbles. The problem is that those who do want chat bubbles, don't have an alternative that serves the same purpose. I think the simple chat bubbles add-on is great and I'm appreciative that at someone at least tried to come up with a solution, but personally I can only see myself using it temporarily, and not as a replacement.

Zenimax obviously has its priorities (bugs, patches, account issues, content updates, etc.), but the fact that they have not even acknowledged the countless threads, polls, etc. pleading for optional chat bubbles to be implemented since July 2013 is what gets to me. If they tell us that we'd have to wait one month, two months, three months for optional chat bubbles to be added in-game, that's fine, because we would at least know that we have been heard, and we have something to look forward to in the future.

The people who support optional chat bubbles being added to ESO aren't posting threads/polls/petitions/etc. to annoy those who don't. They're doing it to get Zenimax's attention, and they'll keep doing so until they get Zenimax's attention.

Kalizaar

Chat bubbles would be wonderful. If they add them, I really hope they add a couple options such as only seeing party members or anybody nearby, and maybe a limitation on how far away a person can be before you no longer see their chat bubbles.

LarsS

It would improve communication to often people dont see meassages

Vantor

LarsS wrote: »

It would improve communication to often people dont see meassages

I don't know if that's the main concern. There are addons that help greatly with that issue.

Morana

I went to an RP event last night, and I ended up leaving after 20 minutes due to the frustration of not being able to figure out who in the room was talking. Not knowing any of the other characters there meant I spent more time trying to connect the text in the text box to which character it belonged to as I did reading what they typed. I was constantly scanning everyone's names and trying to connect the two, and not enjoying myself. Throw in a conversation from a side room that also hit the chat box, and forget it. Done.

I'm beginning to feel that this broken record has never even been listened to.

Harva

Wow the petition seems to have picked up a pace of getting at least 10 signs a day. That's really good. But I know there are far more people out there that would agree with us!

What do some of you think about making a new thread to collect a poll on how many players may actually stop playing the game due to the lack of chat bubbles and being unable to role-play or interact with each other? I mean, after the game has been completed, levels have been maxed, all things have been discovered. Who do you think will pay a sub to keep playing a game they fully beat?

Aside from those that love the lore and their characters enough to try to live in the game and make it a living community. I could see (and I do know a lot of people that haven't bought the game due to this problem) the role-players paying subs to continue to play after everything has been completed.

Or could a poll be added to the original post??

I don't want to see ESO flop... But ignoring the community that will help it survive is just a huge slap in the face.

Tiberius_Ceasar

There IS a chat bubble addon .. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info136-SimpleChatBubbles.html

Harva

Tiberius_Ceasar wrote: »

There IS a chat bubble addon .. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info136-SimpleChatBubbles.html

I really want people to stop sharing this. It is not a chat bubble add on actually. It is a very primitive and basic fix to nothing actually and it's worse than the chat box because it Boggs up your screen.

TRUE chat bubbles would follow the player speaking. Not pop up and block your screen, it also doesnt help you identify who is talking.

I suggest those of you trying to share that add on do more research into a true mmos chat system and how it is necessary for a multi player game.

That add on is like slapping a band aid on a severed arm. It doesn't work.

It just makes you look ignorant, clearly those posting this didn't do all their reading before making a fool of themselves. It's just like those people that say no to OPTIONAL chat bubbles. Both of your statements and arguments or anything these players try to troll us about are moot points that don't help anything.

It just bogs up a constructive thread.

So please stop it.

murklor007neb18_ESO

I use the addon so that I even notice when someone use /say, but its true that it does absolutely nothing to fix the real issue - knowing who said what in a room of players. You cant follow discussions with it, it just dont work.

So its not chat bubbles, its chat notifications and IMO the addon should be renamed as its a lie

Harva

Wow this is kinda hopeful.

ARE THERE CHAT BUBBLES?
Updated 03/30/2014 07:18 AM Published 03/05/2014 05:25 PM
There is not currently a chat bubble feature in The Elder Scrolls Online.

When I looked up this question the first week of April it said "We currently don't have plans to implement chat bubbles."

Currently is a good maybe. It could very easily mean they may do it when things calm down with all the account hacks, cheating and other major bugs going on. I'm very hopeful at least.

It's pretty obvious that the add ons are causing a little bit of a problem as far as them hacking accounts that use them or causing bugs in a players client. So it just makes sense that some things shouldn't be left to the public to make.

nalimoleb14_ESO

I thought this was really interesting - someone actually created a list of reasons why (optional) chat bubbles are very, very much needed in an MMORPG. #2, #7, and #21 are absolutely correct; there are just some things that you just can't do with a little chat box on the side of your screen.


1) Chat Bubbles strongly associate the chat text with the likeness of the player character that you're talking to, leading to a much richer, more natural and more immersive form of social environment.

2) Chat Bubbles make a big (positive) difference in the perception of human presence in the game.

3) Chat Bubbles are for Roleplayers and Socializers what the group finder is for PVEers and the warzone queueing interface is for PVPers. They allow people to find roleplay and social play around them and more easily focus on it.

4) Chat bubbles encourage face to face interactions with other players.

5) They encourage multiplay instead of solo-play - most desirable in a MMOG.

6) Chat bubbles improve communication and group/Ops group coordination between players.

7) They are an essential tool for building and strengthening the community, which is the main reason that keeps people playing and stay loyal to a MMO(RP)G for many years and even decades, even when the PVE and PVP content may have run it's course.

8 ) Without chat bubbles, many players "feel all alone" in the game (the chat window feels very detached from the game).

9) They allow people to focus on the world in front of them, and not a tiny chat window in a corner or anywhere else but near the center of the screen.

10) The fast scrolling chat window is impossible to follow conversations while in an area with a large amount of people.

11) Chat bubbles greatly improve immersion into the game world. Click here to read a post explaining how, if you don't understand.

12) The game world seems to be a lot less sterile and more alive when you can actually see player characters talking.

13) Making new chat channels is not a useful alternative.

14) People with various visual impairments/disabilities rely on chat bubbles in MMORPGs to even be able to effectively communicate and play with other players at all.

15) The same is true for many older gamers.

16) Without chat bubbles, roleplay and socializing is nearly impossible especially in crowded areas, it's tedious and simply is not fun - especially in areas where there are many people or during questing and other parts of the game.

17) Chat bubbles help to pinpoint and find people that are talking in spatial chat in large and crowded areas.

18) Chat bubbles aren't only for Roleplayers - they provide benefits for a great many players with all kinds of playstyles - be it socializers, roleplayers, Group/Flashpoint/Operations PVE players and PVP combatants (that don't rely on voice chat), community builders among others.

19) A large amount of the player base want chat bubbles as an option.

20) Chat bubbles or at least overhead chat text have been a standard feature in almost every mainstream, premium priced MMO released during the past decade that a whole lot of players are used to. There also hasn't been anything invented that's remotely capable of fully replacing chat bubbles for communication between players in MMO(RP)Gs yet (text to speech technology combined with positional audio is still far off from sounding natural). If such a basic feature is missing, many players won't even consider playing a new MMOG.

21) Having a client side option to freely turn chat bubbles on or off to each player's liking will allow every player to enjoy the game, whether they need chat bubbles or not.

Harva

That is awesome!

Did SWTOR ever get chat bubbles implemented? I hear of them being pretty similar to our ESO problems time and time again.

nalimoleb14_ESO

Harva wrote: »

That is awesome!

Did SWTOR ever get chat bubbles implemented? I hear of them being pretty similar to our ESO problems time and time again.

Thanks! I haven't played SWTOR recently so I can't say for sure, but going by that thread (the last page) it looks like still today, chat bubbles weren't implemented... What a shame, I really hope Zenimax proves to be different. Our advantage is that Zenimax actually seems to care, or at least gives the impression of caring about and listening its players (and roleplayers), but they need to show it.

Morana

@nalimoleb14_ESO Awesome list, thanks for posting!

nalimoleb14_ESO

Morana wrote: »

@nalimoleb14_ESO Awesome list, thanks for posting!

My pleasure!

Hyperian

I really would love to see an in game option for chat bubbles. I feel as if it is a must have feature in any mmo. If they think it blocks up the screen to much(I know they want to go with a minimalistic approach) Then make it default off but give us the option to turn it on.

nalimoleb14_ESO

Agreed, @Hyperian!

Harva wrote: »

Wow this is kinda hopeful.

ARE THERE CHAT BUBBLES?
Updated 03/30/2014 07:18 AM Published 03/05/2014 05:25 PM
There is not currently a chat bubble feature in The Elder Scrolls Online.

When I looked up this question the first week of April it said "We currently don't have plans to implement chat bubbles."

Currently is a good maybe. It could very easily mean they may do it when things calm down with all the account hacks, cheating and other major bugs going on. I'm very hopeful at least.

It's pretty obvious that the add ons are causing a little bit of a problem as far as them hacking accounts that use them or causing bugs in a players client. So it just makes sense that some things shouldn't be left to the public to make.

That's awesome, Harva! Is there a link? And yeah exactly, 'currently' is a hopeful word, maybe there isn't a chat bubble feature now but there might be in the near future if we keep this up.

Harva

If You go to the main website and type in chat in the support area it should bring up a bunch of questions players have asked about chat and chat bubbles is about half way down. I'm at work or I'd snag a link for you.

Ruebs

As is stands, Chat in ESO is impractical and ineffective. I can't communicate with a player standing right next to me, quickly and efficiently which is pathetic for an MMO. How am i supposed to me friends In-game? To do so, i have to talk to the in Chat Box and simply hope that they are looking directly at their chat box, at the exact time i post my message, or risk it getting lost in the scrolling text.

Vandarion

Socially Immersive chat bubble -petition

/signed

Link to petition:

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/zenimax-online-studios-create-a-socially-immersive-user-interface-in-elder-scrolls-online

ultimasyqb16_ESO

This has my support.

Jcasanova90nub18_ESO

As a fellow roleplayer you can bet this has my support. I hope this thread and the suggestions offered by players are enough to give ZeniMax a decent incentive to allow for (optional) chat bubbles.

Death grips

I don't really care about roleplaying but this is such a basic and essential feature that it blows my mind that it wasn't included by default.
If you have a problem with chat bubbles as an optional feature then I honestly can't see why your opinion should be taken serious .

CaptainFishSticks

Harva wrote: »

That is awesome!

Did SWTOR ever get chat bubbles implemented? I hear of them being pretty similar to our ESO problems time and time again.

I was subscribed for a few months recently, I can provide insight.

They not only never implemented them, but just like how Zenimax is currently ignoring petitions to have chat bubbles, BioWare has never even regarded said suggestions as viable or even acknowledged their existence.

MMO developers who claim that they didn't add chat bubbles "for the good of the players, and to not ruin immersion" do not understand immersion in an MMO setting.

I want to be able to see who I'm talking to.

I want to be able to focus on my own conversation rather than sifting through an entire chat box just to know my conversation partner is actually talking to me.

We need chat bubbles. This is one of the most basic and necessary MMO features that all modern games should come shipped with.

nalimoleb14_ESO

I agree 100%.

On a discouraging note, here's the latest I've heard from customer support:

To my knowledge there are no plans to implement chat bubbles in the near future. If there is enough demand I'm sure the developers will take note and consider it, but there's a lot on their plate right now and it could be a while before things settle to the point where they can consider implementing new features.

I literally don't know how much more obvious it could be that there is a strong demand for chat bubbles. Do we have to screenshot every thread on every forum, every poll and petition that's been done since last year and send it to the developers? I definitely agree with the fact that Zenimax has so much to deal with right now that unfortunately makes chat bubbles not an immediate priority, but...really? If there is enough demand? Meaning everything that's been done hasn't even made a dent in getting their attention.

Wow...I sense a strong case of SWTOR déjà vu coming on.

Neulwen

I too would appreciate chat bubbles for /say and /yell.

Bruro

nalimoleb14_ESO wrote: »

I agree 100%.

On a discouraging note, here's the latest I've heard from customer support:

To my knowledge there are no plans to implement chat bubbles in the near future. If there is enough demand I'm sure the developers will take note and consider it, but there's a lot on their plate right now and it could be a while before things settle to the point where they can consider implementing new features.

I literally don't know how much more obvious it could be that there is a strong demand for chat bubbles. Do we have to screenshot every thread on every forum, every poll and petition that's been done since last year and send it to the developers? I definitely agree with the fact that Zenimax has so much to deal with right now that unfortunately makes chat bubbles not an immediate priority, but...really? If there is enough demand? Meaning everything that's been done hasn't even made a dent in getting their attention.

Wow...I sense a strong case of SWTOR déjà vu coming on.

/agree


So no plans to implement these? Looks like I have no plans to pay for this game. I don't want developers who ignore the community. I havent seen ANY developers here on zthe forum. Why not? I think there SHOULD be developers on the forum, discussing things with the community and answering questions and so on. Are they too busy? There is nothing more important. The game can be as awesome, but if devs and publisher are going to only do their thing without even considering to talk to us or without even thinking to change their plans, they will not stand a chance. I am seriously realy disappointed with TESO as it is right now, but even more disappointed with the Devs and how they treat us.
I mean, I know this is a big ass project and ***. And they got publisher / devs and so on separated. They are only thinking about money and ***. (this preorder paylock for the race was pretty obvious, that the money is the only important thing)
But a simple "There are no plans..." and NOT EVEN FROM A DEVELOPER is just a stupid joke.
This is the reason I started to support a lot of idie developers. They sure can't pull something big as TESO, but in the end you get a game you can fully enjoy.
Here I just have a BF4-EA feeling at the moment.

So yeah, I think I have about 15 days to go with my free month and I played about 6 days since early access?
I am realy into mmorpgs and realy into rpgs, but man, I got totally disappointed.

All these little things that annoy me in TESO combined is what makes me sad. That, and the fact that the game was just to expensive. I kind of feel like I want my money back at this point.
I had maybe about 2 hours of fun with TESO.
Had absolutely NO ROLEPLAY. (Main reason I got this game)
And I realy hate the specularity-engine. I mean, what is this whie-polish stuff on all objects and models?

Sad

reagen_lionel

Bruro wrote: »

nalimoleb14_ESO wrote: »

I agree 100%.

On a discouraging note, here's the latest I've heard from customer support:

To my knowledge there are no plans to implement chat bubbles in the near future. If there is enough demand I'm sure the developers will take note and consider it, but there's a lot on their plate right now and it could be a while before things settle to the point where they can consider implementing new features.

I literally don't know how much more obvious it could be that there is a strong demand for chat bubbles. Do we have to screenshot every thread on every forum, every poll and petition that's been done since last year and send it to the developers? I definitely agree with the fact that Zenimax has so much to deal with right now that unfortunately makes chat bubbles not an immediate priority, but...really? If there is enough demand? Meaning everything that's been done hasn't even made a dent in getting their attention.

Wow...I sense a strong case of SWTOR déjà vu coming on.

/agree


So no plans to implement these? Looks like I have no plans to pay for this game. I don't want developers who ignore the community. I havent seen ANY developers here on zthe forum. Why not? I think there SHOULD be developers on the forum, discussing things with the community and answering questions and so on. Are they too busy? There is nothing more important. The game can be as awesome, but if devs and publisher are going to only do their thing without even considering to talk to us or without even thinking to change their plans, they will not stand a chance. I am seriously realy disappointed with TESO as it is right now, but even more disappointed with the Devs and how they treat us.
I mean, I know this is a big ass project and ***. And they got publisher / devs and so on separated. They are only thinking about money and ***. (this preorder paylock for the race was pretty obvious, that the money is the only important thing)
But a simple "There are no plans..." and NOT EVEN FROM A DEVELOPER is just a stupid joke.
This is the reason I started to support a lot of idie developers. They sure can't pull something big as TESO, but in the end you get a game you can fully enjoy.
Here I just have a BF4-EA feeling at the moment.

So yeah, I think I have about 15 days to go with my free month and I played about 6 days since early access?
I am realy into mmorpgs and realy into rpgs, but man, I got totally disappointed.

All these little things that annoy me in TESO combined is what makes me sad. That, and the fact that the game was just to expensive. I kind of feel like I want my money back at this point.
I had maybe about 2 hours of fun with TESO.
Had absolutely NO ROLEPLAY. (Main reason I got this game)
And I realy hate the specularity-engine. I mean, what is this whie-polish stuff on all objects and models?

Sad

I really agree with you. If the most simpliest thing that many of us are asking for and not even give it consideration, even after repeatedly doing so since beta. And the ONLY thing we got from this is one sentence regarding this issue ever through all this time

"Currently no plans for chat bubbles"

thats kind of a problem. Do we have to spam support, and have each of us to make phone calls to thier headquarters for them to get a clue.

I do not blame anyone for quitting or stopping thier sub.

The game is alot more bearable for its short comings when you're playing with someone else that is similar to your playstyle (for me Rping full time ).

But an mmo shouldnt really make it feel like it requires that to actually have fun with it in the long run.

The most fun I've hard in this game so far is Rping with someone while leveling.

Dylan

This really needs to be added. The social aspects of other MMOs are the reason people subscribe for years and why they are so successful. It also can't be an addon, all players need access to the feature.