Oakensoul isn't getting nerfed

TechMaybeHic

The3sFinest wrote: »

AdamLAD wrote: »

The3sFinest wrote: »

AdamLAD wrote: »

Snipe spammers not even in stealth hitting 10k on each one against a target with 27k physical, swift (10%) 2.7k critical resistance. And 2 damage reduction CP (12%). Someone spamming snipe from 24 meters away hitting 10k each one is absolutely broken. He did NOTHING else but press 1 button and over doing ridiculous amounts of damage. All because of Oakensoul. Something has to be done about this item. In my 5 years of playing this is THEE worst patch I have ever played. Pathetic how this item even got passed PTS for PvP. What an absolute joke lol.

You could do this without the ring before, stop blaming everything on Oakensoul. It was even more op in pts, this is the nerfed version. I really hope zos listens to the majority here and just leaves the ring alone and disables it in pvp, instead of always resorting to making sets useless.

No you couldn't 🤣🤣. In my 5 years of playing ive never ever been hit like that before. You could probably hit someone like that with less resistance and less damage reduction. But absolutely no chance with the resistance ive had over the years. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Google snipe builds from 3+ years ago, you definitely could hit high numbers with simple 5511 builds. Even on tanky players.

Is 3 years ago before they changed snuoe to shorter cast and trajectory and reduced damage?

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/l6e12n/they_reduced_snipe_by_21/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

21% is quite a lot of ground to make up

The3sFinest

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

The3sFinest wrote: »

AdamLAD wrote: »

The3sFinest wrote: »

AdamLAD wrote: »

Snipe spammers not even in stealth hitting 10k on each one against a target with 27k physical, swift (10%) 2.7k critical resistance. And 2 damage reduction CP (12%). Someone spamming snipe from 24 meters away hitting 10k each one is absolutely broken. He did NOTHING else but press 1 button and over doing ridiculous amounts of damage. All because of Oakensoul. Something has to be done about this item. In my 5 years of playing this is THEE worst patch I have ever played. Pathetic how this item even got passed PTS for PvP. What an absolute joke lol.

You could do this without the ring before, stop blaming everything on Oakensoul. It was even more op in pts, this is the nerfed version. I really hope zos listens to the majority here and just leaves the ring alone and disables it in pvp, instead of always resorting to making sets useless.

No you couldn't 🤣🤣. In my 5 years of playing ive never ever been hit like that before. You could probably hit someone like that with less resistance and less damage reduction. But absolutely no chance with the resistance ive had over the years. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Google snipe builds from 3+ years ago, you definitely could hit high numbers with simple 5511 builds. Even on tanky players.

Is 3 years ago before they changed snuoe to shorter cast and trajectory and reduced damage?

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/l6e12n/they_reduced_snipe_by_21/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

21% is quite a lot of ground to make up

Without derailing this into a snipe thread, the op I am quoting claims snipe was never strong in the five years before Oakensoul. Snipe was only nerfed heavily a year ago, which is when that post is from...

Thecompton73

I'm sorry, you were saying something about something not getting nerfed?

Scaletho

Please, ZOS, don't do it. Oakensoul is a good addiction and don't give any huge advantage in PVE beyond the necessary!

The ring don't give you god mode for PVE! Just allow us to manage better our resources and builds. Mostly, the ring is a huge support for players who are unable to play with endgame sets!

At this point ZOS should work in an improvement for a better and more intelligent distinction between PVE x PVP buff and nerfs mechanisms. Give the same treatment for PVE and PVP tools and sets is not fair.

fizzylu

Scaletho wrote: »

The ring don't give you god mode for PVE! Just allow us to manage better our resources and builds. Mostly, the ring is a huge support for players who are unable to play with endgame sets!

I mean, if one of the main points is that "it helps with resource management".... then there are other ways ZOS could do that and an OP mythic item that fundamentally goes against how the games combat works is not the way it should be done.

Cadbury

CGPsaint

Well, this thread aged well. For console users, that has to be a record for the item that was nerfed the fastest. It's a good thing we suffered through the horrors of camping lockboxes in Murkmire for a MYTHIC item that will pretty much end up in the decon pile. The direction that this game is going is laughable at best.

Thecompton73

I'm sure the next expansion will have an OP item that definitely, positively, absolutely won't get nerfed.

jecks33

this is the last time I farm something in a new area, hours wasted farming items that will be destroyed 1 month later. This entire game is becoming a waste of time

pklemming

For a lot of people the ring was a fun toy to play with. It allowed you do some interesting things, but did not beat a 2 bar build.

The important part was where it let a number of players play easier, due to age disability ioranother reason. They could venture or join people in content they oreviously thought not possible.

Apart from for the memes, it is not used in high end content because it is a dps drop over a full build.

GetAgrippa

This thread aged like milk.

fizzylu

pklemming wrote: »

For a lot of people the ring was a fun toy to play with. It allowed you do some interesting things, but did not beat a 2 bar build.

The important part was where it let a number of players play easier, due to age disability ioranother reason. They could venture or join people in content they oreviously thought not possible.

Apart from for the memes, it is not used in high end content because it is a dps drop over a full build.

Let's be specific though.... in PVE group content, it's a dps drop over a full build. For many other parts of the game though.... the ring actually was a huge buff to dps, survivability, and sustain.

Jaraal

CGPsaint wrote: »

Well, this thread aged well. For console users, that has to be a record for the item that was nerfed the fastest. It's a good thing we suffered through the horrors of camping lockboxes in Murkmire for a MYTHIC item that will pretty much end up in the decon pile. The direction that this game is going is laughable at best.

Yeah, who's going to give up a back bar weapon, one gear set, and 5 skills and another ultimate for some Minor buffs? Certainly not any skilled players.

You'd think we'd be used to these yo-yo changes by now, but it's still disappointing.

fizzylu

Jaraal wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

Well, this thread aged well. For console users, that has to be a record for the item that was nerfed the fastest. It's a good thing we suffered through the horrors of camping lockboxes in Murkmire for a MYTHIC item that will pretty much end up in the decon pile. The direction that this game is going is laughable at best.

Yeah, who's going to give up a back bar weapon, one gear set, and 5 skills and another ultimate for some Minor buffs? Certainly not any skilled players.

You'd think we'd be used to these yo-yo changes by now, but it's still disappointing.

I mean, apparently the ring was created to help those with accessibility issues.... so now I don't see how it will even really be viable for that audience since having major resolve and major sorcery/brutality is pretty much a must for every player... but it's almost like a clearly broken mythic item should not have been the solution to that to begin with hahahaha I'm sure some people are getting sick of seeing me say that.

jtm1018

Welph, there's your answer.

Hope your happy, because I'm not.

Devastated actually.

Tommy_The_Gun

Tbh I don't understand one thing. ZOS keeps coming with all those ridiculous proc sets that are obviously over-powered and obviously broken. Those make the game unfunny & toxic. And what is worse, those sets are not getting adjusted. PB set was intact buffed on PTS. And what is even worse - there are new Reward of the Worthy sets coming that are again - game breaking.

So why they are nerfing the "stat buffing" equivalent of the broken proc-set ? It looks to me like they have double standards. It would be fair if PB & DC actually received same treatment as Oakensoul. If something is overperforming - then it needs a nerf. But no. Broken Proc sets are apparently fine. All of the feedback for DC or PB was getting ignored. People complained about those so much that Oakensoul complains are just pale in comparison.

jtm1018

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Tbh I don't understand one thing. ZOS keeps coming with all those ridiculous proc sets that are obviously over-powered and obviously broken. Those make the game unfunny & toxic. And what is worse, those sets are not getting adjusted. PB set was intact buffed on PTS. And what is even worse - there are new Reward of the Worthy sets coming that are again - game breaking.

So why they are nerfing the "stat buffing" equivalent of the broken proc-set ? It looks to me like they have double standards. It would be fair if PB & DC actually received same treatment as Oakensoul. If something is overperforming - then it needs a nerf. But no. Broken Proc sets are apparently fine. All of the feedback for DC or PB was getting ignored. People complained about those so much that Oakensoul complains are just pale in comparison.

To sell what ever chapter or dlc that is coming with those nerf for the current op item, then rinse and repeat, double standard indeed.

fizzylu

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Tbh I don't understand one thing. ZOS keeps coming with all those ridiculous proc sets that are obviously over-powered and obviously broken. Those make the game unfunny & toxic. And what is worse, those sets are not getting adjusted. PB set was intact buffed on PTS. And what is even worse - there are new Reward of the Worthy sets coming that are again - game breaking.

So why they are nerfing the "stat buffing" equivalent of the broken proc-set ? It looks to me like they have double standards. It would be fair if PB & DC actually received same treatment as Oakensoul. If something is overperforming - then it needs a nerf. But no. Broken Proc sets are apparently fine. All of the feedback for DC or PB was getting ignored. People complained about those so much that Oakensoul complains are just pale in comparison.

Proc sets and sets in general are something I always like to bring up when people talk about the game not being balanced or why ZOS doesn't release more guild/world/weapon skill lines or a new class. Zenimax constantly uses "balance issues" as to why they cannot release actual content people want (weapons, classes, and I personally would love to see them expand upon current guild/world skill lines) because they already "need to balance what is there", yet they knock out 30+ new sets over the course of a chapter and it's DLCs. And it's funny, because I have never feared a class/weapon/or skill line.... but best believe I let out a DEEP sigh when encountering some proc sets or sets in general. Which is why I have little faith in this game anymore. Their excuses and every "fix" they come up with all just seems like complete [snip] at this point.

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Redguards_Revenge

joseayalac wrote: »

Many people think that because Oakensoul has so many buffs "loaded" into a single piece of gear, that it's completely unbalanced and it will get nerfed soon.

I didn't make this post to discuss particular gameplay aspects of the ring, like, for example, that Oakensoul builds don't have to spend time and resources buffing themselves, that has already been explored elsewhere.

What I want to bring to light is the fact that the ring is raising the "perfomance" floor for a lot of players, but hardly the ceiling. Two bar builds will continue to be the maximized way to play. I know it has been said before, but a lot of people are still asking for nerfs as if the ring was "broken".

The Oakensoul isn't going to break anything because it's not a top performer compared to other setups. It's still gonna take skill and awareness to perform good with it in PvP. It isn't going to beat any good 2 bar dueling builds either.

Did you see the new patch?

deleted221105-001306

joseayalac wrote: »

Many people think that because Oakensoul has so many buffs "loaded" into a single piece of gear, that it's completely unbalanced and it will get nerfed soon.

I didn't make this post to discuss particular gameplay aspects of the ring, like, for example, that Oakensoul builds don't have to spend time and resources buffing themselves, that has already been explored elsewhere.

What I want to bring to light is the fact that the ring is raising the "perfomance" floor for a lot of players, but hardly the ceiling. Two bar builds will continue to be the maximized way to play. I know it has been said before, but a lot of people are still asking for nerfs as if the ring was "broken".

The Oakensoul isn't going to break anything because it's not a top performer compared to other setups. It's still gonna take skill and awareness to perform good with it in PvP. It isn't going to beat any good 2 bar dueling builds either.

It dont need to be nerfed. Just turn it off in no cp

jtm1018

Scaletho wrote: »

Please, ZOS, don't do it. Oakensoul is a good addiction and don't give any huge advantage in PVE beyond the necessary!

The ring don't give you god mode for PVE! Just allow us to manage better our resources and builds. Mostly, the ring is a huge support for players who are unable to play with endgame sets!

At this point ZOS should work in an improvement for a better and more intelligent distinction between PVE x PVP buff and nerfs mechanisms. Give the same treatment for PVE and PVP tools and sets is not fair.

This totally this.

With the oakensoul ring, aka the ring power, I can sustain more and stay in the fight more, not to mention the better damage I deal.

I may sustain more if I use a redguard for stam and breton for magicka, but at the cost of lower damage done.

With the one true ring of power, aka oakensoul ring, I can sustain more and deal better damage.

But no, they are back to their usual m.o., bait and switch and all that [snip]

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SpacemanSpiff1

anything strong will get nerfed. this is just the cycle. chase the next carrot.

where's the trust?

Oakenaxe

The nerf was expected, but it causes frustration nonetheless. Don't release something that you know is overpowered, people will get attached to it and get mad after the nerf.

Kahnak

And there it is.

Holycannoli

It's a fairly minor nerf, and it gives Minor Mending now.

It's the rest of the nerfs in the patch that are frustrating.

sbam66

Holycannoli wrote: »

It's a fairly minor nerf, and it gives Minor Mending now.

It's the rest of the nerfs in the patch that are frustrating.

pun intended & they’re adding another major buff to it as well, “major complaining”