Next years chapter

Maya_Nur

While I personally not a fan of a desert biome (too monotonous), if we'll finally get a sea content with pirates it would be exciting!

Not that I count on it, but let me to dream

Supreme_Atromancer

Malfious1986 wrote: »

If I'm going really out there? Atherius.

I tend to think that "no one has any idea where we're going next year" calls for some "out there" stuff, wouldn't you say?

Also, while we're out there - let's say Battlespire may feature, and, because its been 3 years and people really want a new class, what better time to do a Battlemage?

DinoZavr

In my understanding, we might get Colovia chapter,
considering some work might be already done (as a year ago Lyris hinted Skingrad and there were other leads), but developers in all of theirs wisdom decided to go East rather than West.
If cities and terrain for Colovia were at least partially done, it is quite reasonable to use these development in a next year Chapter.

fizl101

I would be very surprised if it is Arrakis!

ebix_

elder scrolls online return of the endless loadscreen. and they will add a zone that never loads .

MaisonNaevius

Dune is an already accessible city. But the clue is not the city of Dune but the environment. So a desert.

Hurbster

I'm just wondering how we are going to save the world yet again.

Iccotak

It would be nice to expand on dragons and do more interesting content with them. Don’t leave them as a one-note gimmick

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Dune of sand? Dune of Snow or dune of ashes wich one will it be...🤔

Elsonso

MaisonNaevius wrote: »

Dune is an already accessible city. But the clue is not the city of Dune but the environment. So a desert.

Dune can mean a lot of things in Elder Scrolls. Most of them are Hammerfell, or at least Redguard, related. It may also make as much sense as using "Glacier" for Summerset, and we will never guess what "Dune" means before they tell us.

If Dune is significant, they could do southern Hammerfell, which would be quite the disappointment after "someplace no one is expecting". I suppose it could be a jumping off point for a larger exploration elsewhere. That might redeem them.

However, there is also desert and Redguard related stuff off-Tamriel. Some that I know of off the top of my head...

Yokuda is also reported to be desert. This is less expected than Hammerfell, but still not a place that nobody is expecting. As this includes an archipelago, that could explain the "HI", with the "I" meaning "Island".

Maelstrom, where the arena is located, might be an area to explore, and no one would be expecting that. That place seems to have a Redguard obsession going.

Elder Scrolls often has us heading off to the after-life, and we have already been to the Redguard plane in Aetherius called Far Shores, or Far Dunes. Maybe we are going back. It is probably a lot larger than what we have seen.

For me, the most interesting cross reference of Dune and next year's dragon is Akatosh related, not Redguard or Hammerfell related. We have been there already in ESO, but they could send us back to The Spilled Sand. Like with Far Shores, there may be more to explore than what we have seen.

I have no confidence that any of the above are a possibility. I still think that next year is new Lore and it will not be possible to guess. If someone does guess, it will be a shot in the dark, with a gusty cross wind, by a blind man, at extreme range.

Inhuman003

I think the elder scrolls devs and Bethesda need to make a community poll of the next chapter of the reveal of the votes on live streams big event.

bluebird

DinoZavr wrote: »

In my understanding, we might get Colovia chapter, considering some work might be already done (as a year ago Lyris hinted Skingrad and there were other leads), but developers in all of theirs wisdom decided to go East rather than West.

If cities and terrain for Colovia were at least partially done, it is quite reasonable to use these development in a next year Chapter.

I really hope so, but it's probably unlikely. I felt really cheated when Lyris mentioned going to Skingrad, yet we got Blackwood instead - a year-long Chapter that was half Daedric and quarter Argonian. Blech. When you add an 'Imperial' inspired Chapter, give us some quality Imperial content, for the Divine's sake!!!

I still recall the rumours surrounding a potential Colovian Estates Chapter, with an entrance from the Gold Coast, though at this point in time I almost wonder whether that was ever going to be a real thing, or if it only ever existed in the fever-dreams of desperate Imperial fans (like myself lol). The issue is that Leyawiin already covered that Colovian vibe (with medieval European architecture, divine worship, cathedrals, abbeys, moats and castles)... so if they did a Colovian Chapter next year, they'd have to re-use the same assets. They could pull a Northern Elsweyr - Southern Elsweyr move again, of course, I'm just not sure how likely that would be.

My ultimate dream would be to get Cyro and IC proper as a proper zone (maybe the IC-Skingrad-Bravil triangle) either through a Dragon Break or a natural development over time of the 3-banners war ending, because IC at least has some Roman-looking architecture instead of the Tudor style of Colovia that would be a nice change aesthetically, and because the Clivia Tharn plotline and the fate of the Empire is still up in the air. Of course, they may as well just go for Hammerfell... which would be pretty ugh since Fargrave also looks like 90% regular Redguard city with regular Redguard architecture and 10% spikes and skeletons.

MaisonNaevius

Colovia doesn't really have a Tudor style. In comparison, Leyawiin and Blackwood are indeed Tudor. Skingrad is corbelled houses. In rock. Richly decorated style despite the simple repetitive Colovian.
But for the rest, it will indeed be similar. However the structures (forts, cathedral, walls) will probably be different from Leyawiin. Skingrad has a style of his own. In TES IV, we speak of an ancient Colovian style.

The plot of Clivia Tharn is over. Her disappearance is proven. One attempt by Itinia was to restore the longhouse dynasty by bringing in Caddach.
Abnur Tharn has disappeared and the Elder Council is dissolved. The Empire is completely dissolved.

On the other hand, Colovia is the closest to the imperial soul ... which is no longer the case with Nibenay. I'm talking about the Legion, about religion.
The Legion still exists on the latest news. The Legion is on an imperial restoration mission. But before that, during the Planemeld, all the Legions we encountered came straight from Colovia.

However, I think we will go to Hammerfell in 2022.

TheImperfect

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

Sylvermynx

TheImperfect wrote: »

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

I would be fine with that too.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

TheImperfect wrote: »

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

I have a dumb question, sorry: how can we add more Bosmer lands to ESO? I thought Valenwood was pretty much all covered? Or are you referring to the unused part to the north of Malabal Tor and Reaper's March?

Sylvermynx

Falinesti....

bluebird

MaisonNaevius wrote: »

Colovia doesn't really have a Tudor style. In comparison, Leyawiin and Blackwood are indeed Tudor. Skingrad is corbelled houses. In rock. Richly decorated style despite the simple repetitive Colovian.
But for the rest, it will indeed be similar. However the structures (forts, cathedral, walls) will probably be different from Leyawiin. Skingrad has a style of his own. In TES IV, we speak of an ancient Colovian style.

That 'Colovian' style already exists, it's the base game Imperial style you can see across most of Cyrodiil. Stone, jettying second floor, bay windows, etc. I called it generically medieval European earlier in my comment, but I do think Tudor applies too (architecture historians may correct me lol). Skingrad doesn't show any unique architecture that wouldn't be covered by the existing base-game Imperial or the Blackwood-Imperial styles, so it's really unlikely they would ever make a new style for it, which is why I think there's an argument to be made for variety rather than more of the same 'medieval North-West-European' vibe they were clearly going for.

Then again, they did release Northern and Southern Elsweyr back to back, which were virtually identical; and there also several Middle-East-inspired styles already (base game Redguard, old Yokudan, Hew's Bane, Fargrave) so it's not impossible that they would 'double-tap' a particular aesthetic...

Araneae6537

Sylvermynx wrote: »

TheImperfect wrote: »

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

I would be fine with that too.

That would be sooo awesome and might make sense after visiting Oblivion if that mage in Malabol Tor was on the right track…

I’m not expecting it, but that could be really awesome!

LordRukia

Maya_Nur wrote: »

kwinter wrote: »

we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

Incredible and mysterious place which won't disappoint the community... 🤔 What could it be I wonder?

Skyrim obviously

hands0medevil

kwinter wrote: »

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj4_NmD3LHzAhVVpZ4KHTH5C6oQxfQBKAB6BAgGEAI&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/10/04/eso-deadlands-new-world/&usg=AOvVaw2_pe0_mDlCMteomctDAKiP

Recent article in the Washington post had a Q and A with Rich Lambert. one of the last question ask was were ESO is going next year and hear was his answer

Lambert: I think the best way to answer that is we are going to continue to support ESO. We’re going to continue building new content, building new systems and making the game better as we go. That’s something that we’re committed to doing. Exactly where we’re going — new features that we’re adding — that’s something that we’re not ready to talk about yet. But hopefully soon we’ll do that. But I will say that where we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

Wonder if this is somewhere not in tarmiel

I think it means no new chapter but rather refreshed old zones xdxdxd

"we are going to continue to support ESO" and this got me really worried

Faulgor

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Falinesti....

It's been a few years back, but I recall an interview with Matt Firor where he said they would leave Falinesti to Bethesda.

hands0medevil wrote: »

kwinter wrote: »

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj4_NmD3LHzAhVVpZ4KHTH5C6oQxfQBKAB6BAgGEAI&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/10/04/eso-deadlands-new-world/&usg=AOvVaw2_pe0_mDlCMteomctDAKiP

Recent article in the Washington post had a Q and A with Rich Lambert. one of the last question ask was were ESO is going next year and hear was his answer

Lambert: I think the best way to answer that is we are going to continue to support ESO. We’re going to continue building new content, building new systems and making the game better as we go. That’s something that we’re committed to doing. Exactly where we’re going — new features that we’re adding — that’s something that we’re not ready to talk about yet. But hopefully soon we’ll do that. But I will say that where we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

Wonder if this is somewhere not in tarmiel

I think it means no new chapter but rather refreshed old zones xdxdxd

"we are going to continue to support ESO" and this got me really worried

That would be fantastic, imo. Rich has said in the past that his team would love to overhaul the old zones, but there's just no time for it and he'd rather release something new. If they found a way to do it, I'll be looking forward to it.

TheImperfect

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

vsrs_au wrote: »

TheImperfect wrote: »

I will go out on a limb and guess we are headed further into Bosmer lands just because it would be unexpected.

I have a dumb question, sorry: how can we add more Bosmer lands to ESO? I thought Valenwood was pretty much all covered? Or are you referring to the unused part to the north of Malabal Tor and Reaper's March?

Could be squeezed in somewhere, maybe in the places you said.

Hallothiel

Or this could just be Rich saying something for the interview without actually saying anything. Bland PR stuff.

I mean, what else would he say?!
“No, next year we having nothing planned for ESO, and we aren’t even sure if we’re going to support it as we’re getting bored of it.” 😂

C’mon, it’s excellent PR to leave everyone ‘guessing’. 🤣🤣

(And could be Hammerfell -as a lot of people don’t expect ESO to touch it due to TES6 supposedly being set there. Or probably some other Daedric realm (sigh). Hang on can you get to Aedric realms?!!!)

agegarton

It would be nice to see PVP get an overhaul - most people would agree it's time (maybe long past time).

Drastic change isn't needed - Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds are still fun, but there's a lot that could be done to remove bugs, make Cyrodiil more responsive, and add gameplay.

I'd like to see gameplay developed to add more of a strategic element so that there's reduced reliance on brute force. Big groups shouldn't always triumph against well dug in opponents and supply lines should be more important.

I'd also like to see a complete review of how sets work in Cyrodiil. Whether it impacts server performance or not, there's just waaaaaaay too much reliance on the meta-proc-set of the day. This, more than anything, really puts off new players from getting stuck into PVP which is one of the reasons populations have dropped off so much.

MaisonNaevius

bluebird wrote: »

That 'Colovian' style already exists, it's the base game Imperial style you can see across most of Cyrodiil. Stone, jettying second floor, bay windows, etc. I called it generically medieval European earlier in my comment, but I do think Tudor applies too (architecture historians may correct me lol). Skingrad doesn't show any unique architecture that wouldn't be covered by the existing base-game Imperial or the Blackwood-Imperial styles, so it's really unlikely they would ever make a new style for it, which is why I think there's an argument to be made for variety rather than more of the same 'medieval North-West-European' vibe they were clearly going for.

Then again, they did release Northern and Southern Elsweyr back to back, which were virtually identical; and there also several Middle-East-inspired styles already (base game Redguard, old Yokudan, Hew's Bane, Fargrave) so it's not impossible that they would 'double-tap' a particular aesthetic...

The style of the base game you mentioned is not a Colovian style. This is a generic imperial style and more precisely the style of the Second Empire.
Many imperial colonies (in Colovia, Nibenay, Valenwood, Hammerfell) adopted this style.

But now, the architectural style of the base game will never be used in a new Imperial expansion. Except perhaps non-imperial regions (Sandswirl Manor in Nothern Elsweyr).
There may be exceptions with Colovia. We see Kvatch having this old style. Dred Estate too. The Istirus outpost as well.
But concretely, the styles of the base game (Second Empire and Nibenese) are now obsolete. Gideon originally had the Nibenese style. And Skingrad had the Breton style of the base game.

Skingrad architectural style, which we see in TES IV, will most certainly be adopted in ESO. I imagine even improved. And it will probably be extended to all Colovia infrastructures.

We may eventually find the Tudor style of Blackwood in the Nibenay area. Maybe that's a certainty. Although I would have preferred for the town of Mir Corrup an improvement of the Nibenese style of the base game.

Elsonso

agegarton wrote: »

It would be nice to see PVP get an overhaul - most people would agree it's time (maybe long past time).

Drastic change isn't needed - Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds are still fun, but there's a lot that could be done to remove bugs, make Cyrodiil more responsive, and add gameplay.

We have been told that nothing happens until they finish with their performance work. I think that, right now, they are afraid to touch anything. They apparently did not think that Milegates would break things, and they did. Since that performance work is not done, and it takes months to build new shiny things, I would not expect new or significantly changed PVP content before... 2024...? We may get a solid performance update in 2022, but that would really surprise me.

ealdwin

Hallothiel wrote: »

Or this could just be Rich saying something for the interview without actually saying anything. Bland PR stuff.

I mean, what else would he say?!
“No, next year we having nothing planned for ESO, and we aren’t even sure if we’re going to support it as we’re getting bored of it.” 😂

C’mon, it’s excellent PR to leave everyone ‘guessing’. 🤣🤣

(And could be Hammerfell -as a lot of people don’t expect ESO to touch it due to TES6 supposedly being set there. Or probably some other Daedric realm (sigh). Hang on can you get to Aedric realms?!!!)

According to the lore... yes.

It is an extremely difficult endeavor since the only way to do so is by use of magic, and Aetherius (where the Aedric planes are located) is the source of magic. Two organizations (that we know of) where created at various points in order to try to do so. The Altmer had their Sun Birds organization that was meant to try to find a way to Aetherius. There are also the Imperial Mananauts of the Reman Empire's expeditions. What degree of success either of these reached is unkown, but it can be assumed that since Aetherius isn't a frequent vacation destination of anyone, that there was not a ton of viable success stories.

There have been other instances of mortals finding their way to the Aedric planes in Aetherius, but those are usually temporary and not achieved through mortal means. Sure, they jumped into the portals, but the mortals were not the ones to create them.

xgoku1

Sovngarde is an Aetherial plane that the LDB visits in TES5.

Also we visit 3 Aetherial planes in ESO: Far Shores, Baan Dar's Five Fingers' Dance, and the Sands Behind the Stars.

These are via simple portal-magic usually.

The Sunbirds and Mananauts are more obscure lore. Sunbirds tried to blast their way into Aetherius (of sorts...) and returned with some minerals/trinkets from their expedition.

Presumably they don't go to a sub-realm of Aetherius but into the aether of Aetherius, probably allowing free movement to/from Aedric Planes. It's not really explained.

Anyways, an Aedric plane location doesn't have to be via the Sunbirds/Mananaut route. A portal can work.

LeonAkando

xgoku1 wrote: »

xgoku1 wrote: »

SYS/HI = ???

This is the only place on UESP's Places starting with S that starts with S, and has Y and S also.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Systres

Pirate DLC yarr?

With your source, I think we solved it will all the clues. I'll explain.

CLUE 1:
SYS = The Systres
HI = Hammerfell Isles

CLUE 2:
This landscape will represent that of "Dune". Or similar to Alikr.

CLUE 3:
This also ties in to the other clue we got from a previous poster who said she responded to Rich that the next area was Alikr and he liked it on twitter.

CLUE 4:
Rich said this is an area "no one expects". The Systres/Hammerfell Isles fit that. Because no one would expect us to go near Hammerfell given it is the alleged area of ES6, and it's also off the coast of Tamriel.