Next years chapter

MaisonNaevius

Why another time ? Is it still because of this Thaddeus Cosma?
Over the expansions, we know that the war of alliances is slowly but surely approaching the end (diplomatic measures with Rigurt or Abnur, withdrawal of heroic figures such as Keshu).

A PvE Cyrodiil map will undoubtedly come (or not, I do not believe it). But we have time. Before that, in the very days of ESO, we have an extremely interesting background in Colovia. I will be very disappointed not to visit Skingrad in 2E 582 but only another era.

YandereGirlfriend

lillybit wrote: »

Just posted this in another thread but there looks like more info here so thought I'd copy it, it expands a little on "a place nobody is expecting."

lillybit wrote: »

https://gamerant.com/elder-scrolls-online-next-expansion-dlc-2022/amp/

When asked plainly if he could tell Game Rant anything about upcoming content in 2022, Lambert said it will be "something nobody is expecting" and responded with a rhetorical question: what happens when the map is filled? He then went on to say that "Oblivion is nearly infinite in size and scope,"

I found this interview which I think is a pretty big clue, especially taken together with the question about Fargrave on the last stream - the gist was if it would be a hub for other daedric realms in the future; they laughed and wouldn't answer!

That would also explain why they are giving everyone the DLC for free.

If Fargrave is the hub and the other realms are spokes in the wheel then making sure that all players have access to the hub is the only way that they could make future Chapters dependent upon it.

Otherwise you would have Chapters requiring a subscription in order to access and that would be very awkward for non-subs and likely generate a ton of backlash.

Araneae6537

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Just posted this in another thread but there looks like more info here so thought I'd copy it, it expands a little on "a place nobody is expecting."

lillybit wrote: »

https://gamerant.com/elder-scrolls-online-next-expansion-dlc-2022/amp/

When asked plainly if he could tell Game Rant anything about upcoming content in 2022, Lambert said it will be "something nobody is expecting" and responded with a rhetorical question: what happens when the map is filled? He then went on to say that "Oblivion is nearly infinite in size and scope,"

I found this interview which I think is a pretty big clue, especially taken together with the question about Fargrave on the last stream - the gist was if it would be a hub for other daedric realms in the future; they laughed and wouldn't answer!

That would also explain why they are giving everyone the DLC for free.

If Fargrave is the hub and the other realms are spokes in the wheel then making sure that all players have access to the hub is the only way that they could make future Chapters dependent upon it.

Otherwise you would have Chapters requiring a subscription in order to access and that would be very awkward for non-subs and likely generate a ton of backlash.

But the DLC is for everyone who gets Blackwood before the end of this event. What about players who have neither Blackwood nor ESO+? And new players? Or if it is connected, there will certainly have to be other ways of getting to and from these other realms.

kwinter

Fargrave is it's own location in the upcoming DLC so they could give everyone access to fargrave without give them access to deadlands

Dark_Lord_Kuro

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Just posted this in another thread but there looks like more info here so thought I'd copy it, it expands a little on "a place nobody is expecting."

lillybit wrote: »

https://gamerant.com/elder-scrolls-online-next-expansion-dlc-2022/amp/

When asked plainly if he could tell Game Rant anything about upcoming content in 2022, Lambert said it will be "something nobody is expecting" and responded with a rhetorical question: what happens when the map is filled? He then went on to say that "Oblivion is nearly infinite in size and scope,"

I found this interview which I think is a pretty big clue, especially taken together with the question about Fargrave on the last stream - the gist was if it would be a hub for other daedric realms in the future; they laughed and wouldn't answer!

That would also explain why they are giving everyone the DLC for free.

If Fargrave is the hub and the other realms are spokes in the wheel then making sure that all players have access to the hub is the only way that they could make future Chapters dependent upon it.

Otherwise you would have Chapters requiring a subscription in order to access and that would be very awkward for non-subs and likely generate a ton of backlash.

The free dlc is only for those who bought blacwood by the end of the event

propertyOfUndefined

If Akatosh is part of the theme, my bet is the return of The Prophet and the Amulet of Kings.

Elsonso

xgoku1 wrote: »

The 3 parts needed are:

Hallowed Hourglass Basin

Illuminated Dragon Scroll

Kvatchian Incense

The first morph is a Skin, called 'Scales of Akatosh'

This is Gold Coast related...

sorcmag01

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

ealdwin

This is admittedly a bit out there, but what if next year involves a journey to Aetherius. In particular Akhat, the plane(t) of Akatosh which he ruled from before the Convention.

But is travel to the Aetherius even possible? Yes.

According to the Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd Edition:

Visits to Aetherius occur even less frequently than to Oblivion, for the void is a long expanse and only the stars offer portal for aetherial travel, or the judicious use of magic. The expeditions of the Reman Dynasty and the Sun Birds of Alinor are the most famous attempts in our histories, and it is a cosmic irony that both of them were eventually dissolved for the same reason: the untenable expenditures required to reach magic by magicka. Their only legacy is the Royal Imperial Mananauts of the Elder Council and the great Orrery at Firsthold, whose spheres are made up of genuine celestial mineral gathered by travelers during the Merethic Era.

There are a few noteworthy elements here, and several that already have connections in this game. The Sun Birds were referenced through the Prismatic Sunbird Feather, an antiquity in the Summerset Isles made of Meteoric Glass, also known as Aetherial Crystal. The Imperial Mananauts were referenced through the Imperial Mananaut Cap, a collectible obtained through the Storm Atronach Crown Crates. Also of note is the reference to Reman era expeditions to try and reach Aetherius. The Reman Dynasty was not too long ago in game history, so such expeditions are also not too far removed from the timeline, only being a few hundred years ago. The lore for journeys to Aetherius is there.

However, according to the lore, expeditions to Aetherius are quite difficult and rarely successful, so how could a future chapter or DLC involve a visit to it?

This is where the datamines could come it. While the Craglorn zone explored some aspects of the Celestials, it also left plenty of room for more exploration into their nature. Based on the datamines, it can be inferred that an upcoming Crown Crate season will revolve around the Celestials. This could point to a number of possibilities, one of which is further Celestial involvement. Could Celestials, or their magic, be potent enough to guide travelers to Aetherius in order to solve such a problem?

I would be tempted to think so. There is admittedly not much more to go off of, but it's a possibility.

allup8679

Remathilis wrote: »

Lambert. But I will say that where we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

I went years with no one understanding this reference and you're the second person today to use it.

Thank you.

LittlePinkDot

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

sorcmag01

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

That's very true

xgoku1

ealdwin wrote: »

I would be tempted to think so. There is admittedly not much more to go off of, but it's a possibility.

Agree. It could be an Aedric plane related to Akatosh/Divines. Or maybe in a Slipstream realm like Battlespire that allows travel to other realms. The Imperial connection is pretty strong, it could be something like Imperial mananauts based out of Battlespire succeed in entering Aetherius

TX12001rwb17_ESO

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

If they did do a cyrodil in another time, how easy do you think it would be for them to use the PvP cyrodil as a template then just fill in all the towns, NPC's ect? Or do you think the PvP cyrodil is just too damn big?

It is possible

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Just posted this in another thread but there looks like more info here so thought I'd copy it, it expands a little on "a place nobody is expecting."

lillybit wrote: »

https://gamerant.com/elder-scrolls-online-next-expansion-dlc-2022/amp/

When asked plainly if he could tell Game Rant anything about upcoming content in 2022, Lambert said it will be "something nobody is expecting" and responded with a rhetorical question: what happens when the map is filled? He then went on to say that "Oblivion is nearly infinite in size and scope,"

I found this interview which I think is a pretty big clue, especially taken together with the question about Fargrave on the last stream - the gist was if it would be a hub for other daedric realms in the future; they laughed and wouldn't answer!

That would also explain why they are giving everyone the DLC for free.

If Fargrave is the hub and the other realms are spokes in the wheel then making sure that all players have access to the hub is the only way that they could make future Chapters dependent upon it.

Otherwise you would have Chapters requiring a subscription in order to access and that would be very awkward for non-subs and likely generate a ton of backlash.

But you could still port to those Zones regardless, Fargrave would just be the way to get there by walking.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

sorcmag01 wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

That's very true

No it isn't the Vestige due to their very nature cannot be killed, even if they grow old and die they will inevitably respawn back to the age they originally became the Vestige at, you also have the choice to be effected with Vampirism which would grant you eternal youth.

Call it denial or simple ignorance on the Daedras part to not knowing it but the Vestige isn't really a mortal being, originally you started the game in Coldharbour, In short you were sacrificed by Mannimarco, given an immortal body made of Azure Plasm while in Coldharbour but then you escaped and used the Skyshards to attune that body elsewhere granting you the ability to revive whenever killed, it is also the reason you cannot become a Vampire normally and why you need to become a Blood Scion if you wish to become a Vampire.

The Vestige simply cannot die so becoming an undead creature is out of the question, what Lamae Bal seems to do is use her power to reshape your animus into one that is Vampiric.

Maya_Nur

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

That's very true

No it isn't the Vestige due to their very nature cannot be killed, even if they grow old and die they will inevitably respawn back to the age they originally became the Vestige at, you also have the choice to be effected with Vampirism which would grant you eternal youth.

Call it denial or simple ignorance on the Daedras part to not knowing it but the Vestige isn't really a mortal being, originally you started the game in Coldharbour, In short you were sacrificed by Mannimarco, given an immortal body made of Azure Plasm while in Coldharbour but then you escaped and used the Skyshards to attune that body elsewhere granting you the ability to revive whenever killed, it is also the reason you cannot become a Vampire normally and why you need to become a Blood Scion if you wish to become a Vampire.

The Vestige simply cannot die so becoming an undead creature is out of the question, what Lamae Bal seems to do is use her power to reshape your animus into one that is Vampiric.

Vampires in TES are not undead as far as they have souls, while skeletons, ghosts and spirits are remnants of what they were (physical bodies, minds and spirits(?)🧐) with undeath energy animating them. I'd say vampires are more of way of the evil evolution for mortals as far as they become predators to it's own kind. 🤔

Speaking of the way daedra see us as mortal, while your suggestion about denial and ignorance is roleplay-friendly (which I really like 👍), it appears to be a plot hole made by writers. 😩 I just don't believe that Lyranth, who served to Molag Bal and capable of gathering an information, just refuse to check vestiges origin after we help her to release her clan in ICP.

TiaFrye

Maya_Nur wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

That's very true

No it isn't the Vestige due to their very nature cannot be killed, even if they grow old and die they will inevitably respawn back to the age they originally became the Vestige at, you also have the choice to be effected with Vampirism which would grant you eternal youth.

Call it denial or simple ignorance on the Daedras part to not knowing it but the Vestige isn't really a mortal being, originally you started the game in Coldharbour, In short you were sacrificed by Mannimarco, given an immortal body made of Azure Plasm while in Coldharbour but then you escaped and used the Skyshards to attune that body elsewhere granting you the ability to revive whenever killed, it is also the reason you cannot become a Vampire normally and why you need to become a Blood Scion if you wish to become a Vampire.

The Vestige simply cannot die so becoming an undead creature is out of the question, what Lamae Bal seems to do is use her power to reshape your animus into one that is Vampiric.

Vampires in TES are not undead as far as they have souls, while skeletons, ghosts and spirits are remnants of what they were (physical bodies, minds and spirits(?)🧐) with undeath energy animating them. I'd say vampires are more of way of the evil evolution for mortals as far as they become predators to it's own kind. 🤔

Speaking of the way daedra see us as mortal, while your suggestion about denial and ignorance is roleplay-friendly (which I really like 👍), it appears to be a plot hole made by writers. 😩 I just don't believe that Lyranth, who served to Molag Bal and capable of gathering an information, just refuse to check vestiges origin after we help her to release her clan in ICP.

Thing is, you have mortal's face. That's enough for a classic daedra to dismiss anything that makes you special. You look like a mortal, you act like a mortal. So for them you're a mortal.

After all the whole point of soul shriven is to suffer enternally, something a mortal wouldn't endure, and if we ourselves and others around us didn't recognize us as mortals there's not much suffering to experience. Death is a minor inconvenience for daedra. Mortals fear death.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

Maybe she was just rubbing it in that you're mortal and won't be around in 435 years.

On the other end
You died once at the start of the main quest and as far as i understand, your body is not your og one but is now made of azure plasm.

Can we even get old with a body like that?

Dark_Lord_Kuro

sorcmag01 wrote: »

One event seem very awkward for me. When Lyranth took something very important from the Ambitions.

Won't go into detail because of spoilers, but those who did the quest maybe thought it was a shocking moment like I did, or maybe not. I really thought this may be a clue at the time. As my houseguest she said something like, ''I am planning something in about 435 years and asked me to not die''.

Is it possible this is connected? Probably not, but it was a strange moment for me.

She is going to be very powerful now!

So i calculated
If my math is right
582+435=1017
But the 2e only last 896 years according to uesp
So if we substract 896 from 1017 it shouls only leave the part not whithin the 2e era
1017-896=121
So 3e 121 wich happen to be the year where the war of the red diamon started according to this link
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Third_Era

So may or may not indicate that Lyranth is somehow implicated/responsible for the war of the red diamond

So 3rd era pve cyrodiil? Or another pvp map to replace the 582 one as if im not mistaken, that war also opposed 3 faction? Or completely unlinked to the next year chapter and dlc? We will know in january

Maya_Nur

Cillion3117 wrote: »

I've seen the key word "Illusion" pop up multiple times. Hopefully there will be a new skill line or class that deals with Illusion magic. That would be very cool if done right.

My guess that "illusion" most likely means it's not real

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Chaos2088 wrote: »

Something to do with Akatosh.

-dun dun dun-

kwinter wrote: »

But I will say that where we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

As far as I am aware, Akatosh is a god of time... So um... time travel ?

PvE Cyro or IC (different zone) from different time line ?

Even if the story about the Akatosh, it'll probably be like "Bad Badson wants to change the timeline to rule the world and we should prevent it" which means no risky plot twists, just another epic "This time we dodged it"

Luke_Flamesword

For me Akatosh perfectly fits for Dragon Break theme, so yeah - there will be more epic stuff, saving the world and evil Elvis but this time not everything will end completely good. There will Dragon Break making parallel universe which not only explains why historic books didn't say anything about so many deadra invasions in Tamriel (all of them in one year ) but it also involve vestige into it, making him to exist in both universes simultanously (don't think about it too much, just accept it).

And by this we can have another version of Tamriel without abandoning old one and this probably will be better option than just lame time travel theme.

VDoom1

Somewhere we least expect....we might just leave Tamriel. And by that I mean we could go to Atmora or Aldmeris, we might leave Tamriel.

I'd love to see more love for the Imperials and somehow some Imperial focused expansion with Akatosh.( All hail the Dragon God of time! )

We usually get a quest which hints at the future. Like in the Clockwork DLC we had a quest which hinted at Summerset. Anyone seen anything like that? Then again that might not come until the final chapter of this year, Deadlands.

gariondavey

allup8679 wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Lambert. But I will say that where we’re going next is a place that nobody’s expecting.

I went years with no one understanding this reference and you're the second person today to use it.

Thank you.

The flying circus was amazing. Comedy gold. As soon as people started using the Spanish inquisition as a meme I was like "does humanity have a chance???" Lol

Elsonso

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VDoom1 wrote: »

Somewhere we least expect....we might just leave Tamriel. And by that I mean we could go to Atmora or Aldmeris, we might leave Tamriel.

I'd love to see more love for the Imperials and somehow some Imperial focused expansion with Akatosh.( All hail the Dragon God of time! )

We usually get a quest which hints at the future. Like in the Clockwork DLC we had a quest which hinted at Summerset. Anyone seen anything like that? Then again that might not come until the final chapter of this year, Deadlands.

It is not somewhere we least expect, it is a place that nobody is expecting.

Now, expecting is not the same thing as talking about it, but the forum is now expecting Akatosh and time travel, and that just seems too easy.

The only place where Rich can stand and safely make that statement is in the middle of entirely new TES Lore. The only place on Nirn that is unexpected is somewhere that hasn't been covered by Lore. So, the question is whether Rich is standing on firm ground when he says that, or whether he is just counting on us to be looking in the wrong direction.

If we are going to 3E1xx with the dremora lady and this is Akatosh/Imperial related, then Rich has really underestimated the community. Now, to be fair, I doubt they set out with the goal that the 2022 story would be a place no one would expect. That thought probably came later.

Starlight_Knight

i dont care where we're going JUST GIVE ME A BARD!"

Starlight_Knight

Spawniaq wrote: »

Spell Crafting

good joke

Karivaa

Shewolf075 wrote: »

I least expect Cyrodiil to be revised.

Right? A new map for Cyrodiil would be amazing.

Elsonso

Karivaa wrote: »

Shewolf075 wrote: »

I least expect Cyrodiil to be revised.

Right? A new map for Cyrodiil would be amazing.

That would certainly be the one place no one would expect.

It is possible that they want a new Chapter that no one will buy, which I would not expect, and make a PVP chapter.

Chaos2088

Elsonso wrote: »

Karivaa wrote: »

Shewolf075 wrote: »

I least expect Cyrodiil to be revised.

Right? A new map for Cyrodiil would be amazing.

That would certainly be the one place no one would expect.

It is possible that they want a new Chapter that no one will buy, which I would not expect, and make a PVP chapter.

Any Chapter added to the game will not be pvp focused.

Elsonso

Chaos2088 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Karivaa wrote: »

Shewolf075 wrote: »

I least expect Cyrodiil to be revised.

Right? A new map for Cyrodiil would be amazing.

That would certainly be the one place no one would expect.

It is possible that they want a new Chapter that no one will buy, which I would not expect, and make a PVP chapter.

Any Chapter added to the game will not be pvp focused.

Well, it is certainly something we would not expect. Right?