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PTS Update 30 - Bug Reports for Combat Balance & Abilities

ZOS_GinaBruno
ZOS_GinaBruno
Community Manager
Please report any issues you run into involving combat and gameplay balance or abilities in this thread. Please give us as much information as possible, including screenshots and/or video if applicable. Thank you!
Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on April 20, 2021 3:54PM
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  • Styxius
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    Bugs I've experienced so far on this PTS week 1.

    •Blastbones: Is experiencing major issues with targetting and pathing. At point-blank sometimes taking 3 GCD's to connect. and whip around flipping around all over the place and are unresponsive at times.

    •Proc sets like Relequen: Made a separate post about this, but these sets with the new scaling are no longer being affected by pen buffs/debuffs to damage taken/dealt as it previously did leading it to be a major negative compared to the planned increase in their power in PvE.

    •Several foods and tooltips to name a few:
    Mothers Sorrow's crit isn't registering and being provided anymore at least not in the character sheet.
    Spectral Cloak and many foods are displaying 0 in their tooltip for duration or buff.

    •Barbed Trap:
    With the addition of the built-in skill tracker which I am a fan of for the most part with some minor complaints. When casting it, it uses the 60s duration but doesn't pick up the 18 seconds when it procs leaving it to be an unreliable tracker compared to some made by Addon creators.


    These are what I've experienced so far. I don't plan to test more until the proc sets are corrected to perform more thorough DPS tests outside of the general concepts.
  • Pearly
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    I would like to echo the issue with Blastbones right now. It's very inconsistent with how many GCDs it takes to hit, even when stationary. Nearly right next to the trial dummy, it will sometimes take hit right at 2 GCDs, sometimes a little bit after, and sometimes take 3+ GCDs as it runs to the side (from the back) of the dummy to sit, and then explode.
  • Pearly
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    Another Blastbones bug: the skill icon isn't consistently greying out when the Blastbones is live, and has been greying out when the skill is available to cast.
  • Sangwyne
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    Does DK being a complete trainwreck atm count as a bug or is that intended? Also, Coagulating Blood doesn't work. See here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/570727/question-about-coagulating-blood-ability-dragonknight-class/p1
  • Extinct_Solo_Player
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    2 bugs

    1: Thaumaturge CP is non functional, it does not add to DoT tooltips with 50 points invested and toggled.

    2: Deadly Bash sword and shield passive is bugged. It does not reduce the stamina cost of bash by 40% which it is supposed to. Bash costs the same as it does on my 2h bar instead of being reduced by 40%.

    With Sword and Shield equipped o0d9t0lt4gu2.png

    With 2 hander equipped 9o7plckgxti7.png

    Edited by Extinct_Solo_Player on April 20, 2021 10:06PM
  • Jaimeh
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    XvarleyX wrote: »
    Instant cast proc from Crystal Fragments is not working, the sound of the proc plays, but no change of icon on bar, and the ability retains it's cast time.

    https://streamable.com/u6uron

    The same thing is happening for merciless ressolve bow proc on magicka nightblades: the sound plays, you fire the proc but the icon on the bar does not change, and you still see the arrow.
  • BohnT2
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    2 bugs

    1: Thaumaturge CP is non functional, it does not add to DoT tooltips with 50 points invested and toggled.

    2: Deadly Bash sword and shield passive is bugged. It does not reduce the stamina cost of bash by 40% which it is supposed to. Bash costs the same as it does on my 2h bar instead of being reduced by 40%.

    With Sword and Shield equipped o0d9t0lt4gu2.png

    With 2 hander equipped 9o7plckgxti7.png

    Deadly bash has been bugged for ages as it applies the cost reduction to both bars rather than just the sword and board bar
  • Extinct_Solo_Player
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    BohnT2 wrote: »
    2 bugs

    1: Thaumaturge CP is non functional, it does not add to DoT tooltips with 50 points invested and toggled.

    2: Deadly Bash sword and shield passive is bugged. It does not reduce the stamina cost of bash by 40% which it is supposed to. Bash costs the same as it does on my 2h bar instead of being reduced by 40%.

    With Sword and Shield equipped o0d9t0lt4gu2.png

    With 2 hander equipped 9o7plckgxti7.png

    Deadly bash has been bugged for ages as it applies the cost reduction to both bars rather than just the sword and board bar

    I'm pretty sure bash on Sword and shield is supposed to cost 1133 stamina with the 40% reduction like how the 36% block cost reduction is working as intended due to the 36% cost reduction only being active on sword and shield bar with a cost of 1061 stamina compared to the 1658 block cost on the 2 hander bar. EDIT* Didn't realize it was bugged for ages guess it will stay bugged if it has already been reported, lol

    Edited by Extinct_Solo_Player on April 20, 2021 10:36PM
  • TC_Lee13
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    Restoring Focus Bug:
    If you recast Restoring Focus inside or near the same position as a previous Restoring Focus while it's still active it, the new Restoring Focus rune no longer outputs any healing.
  • XvarleyX
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    The same thing is happening for merciless ressolve bow proc on magicka nightblades: the sound plays, you fire the proc but the icon on the bar does not change, and you still see the arrow.[/quote]

    I think they mentioned some skills with a secondary effect not changing the icon on the skill bar in the potes, but i'm 100% hard casting procced frags.
    Edited by XvarleyX on April 21, 2021 12:05AM
  • WuffyCerulei
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    Crystal Fragments is pretty broken right now. If I ever get a proc, the skill just casts normally as if it didn't have a proc. The proc is still being caused by magicka abilities, but will not let itself be instantly casted.
    For the love of Kyne, buff sorc.

    PC NA
    CP 2000+
    Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Warlord - Flawless Conqueror
    vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HM/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR
    Falls-With-Stars - Argonian Magicka Templar - Former Empress
    Dragon-in-Shadows - Argonian Nightblade Tank - Shadow Breaker
    Eossos - Khajiit Magicka Templar Healer
    Death-Singer - Argonian Magicka Nightblade
    Dark-Star - Khajiit Magicka Dragonknight
    Ice-Dancer - Khajiit Magicka Warden
    Tsalli-ko - Khajiit Stamina Sorcerer
    The-Gold-Experience - Khajiit Magicka Necromancer
    Khiiral - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight
  • Narvuntien
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    The new Ability timers are completely wrong for my MagDK.

    Burning embers in particular way off.

    Strangely Elemental wall seems to be wrong it lasts a lot longer than the visuals that I use to gauge it.

    And the ability that is worst is scaling rune, the timer is for how long it lasts not for how long it deals damage for.
  • ajkb78
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    The change to Piercing has undone the work previously put in to expand the range of viable armor combinations. As of Blackwood only 7 light armour will be viable in an optimised group for all magicka classes except necromancer and flanking nightblade, because other classes will not be able to reach the penetration cap with the same supporting sets as dds in 7 light. This takes away the viability of Medusa as an alternative to Mother's Sorrow, which was previously really well balanced and gave a great pair of options, albeit you had to put more cp into piercing when wearing Medusa. Now you aren't able to put additional CP into piercing so you will underpenetrate in Medusa, making the set much less viable compared to MS.

    However it gets worse. You're supposedly trying to make stamina more viable for advanced PVE, hence the nerf to orbs and the buff to caltrops. But this change just increases the gap in penetration between magicka and stamina, so bringing a few stamina dds along in a mixed group setup will be even less viable.

    Finally, the change doesn't even do anything to rein in power. Mag dds will still be able to hit the penetration cap just as they could before, they will just have fewer options so we will be back to everyone wearing exactly the same gear (MS).

    Please just change this back so we get the full amount of penetration that was available in Flames of Ambition (or even a bit more, in order to put magicka and stamina more equally able to compete together), just from 20 points in piercing rather than 40.

  • Firstmep
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    XvarleyX wrote: »
    Instant cast proc from Crystal Fragments is not working, the sound of the proc plays, but no change of icon on bar, and the ability retains it's cast time.

    https://streamable.com/u6uron

    The same thing is happening for merciless ressolve bow proc on magicka nightblades: the sound plays, you fire the proc but the icon on the bar does not change, and you still see the arrow.

    I've test dueled a bit yesterday and the one magblade I fought had no issues firing off the bow proc.
    Wonder if this may be related to the new ability timers.
  • Styxius
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    I am unsure if it's my end but Barswap feels incredibly laggy and creates a stutter each time you bar swap on Gamepad. Similar to the massive UI bug Gamepad has been having with equipping gear on PC/NA
  • ExoY
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    CP Slotable Cooldown gone

    On Live Server there is currently a 30second cooldown for changing cp slottable.
    However there is non on PTS.

    I dont want to complain about it, but since it wasnt mentioned in Patch notes (at least I cant remember reading about it, but its only been like 40pages or so :) its unclear to me whether this is intended or a bug.

  • Alendrin
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    I don't know where else to post this but you are going to have to cap the proc set scaling. I've already seen legit pvp builds with proc set tooltips (spell damage, weapon damage, and health based) twice as high as what is on live right now. This doesn't even account for oddball scenarios like emperor builds, probably some werewolf nonsense, or people in groups stacking major courage, player passives, and other buffs.

  • phil.maricel08ub17_ESO
    ajkb78 wrote: »
    The change to Piercing has undone the work previously put in to expand the range of viable armor combinations. As of Blackwood only 7 light armour will be viable in an optimised group for all magicka classes except necromancer and flanking nightblade, because other classes will not be able to reach the penetration cap with the same supporting sets as dds in 7 light. This takes away the viability of Medusa as an alternative to Mother's Sorrow, which was previously really well balanced and gave a great pair of options, albeit you had to put more cp into piercing when wearing Medusa. Now you aren't able to put additional CP into piercing so you will underpenetrate in Medusa, making the set much less viable compared to MS.

    However it gets worse. You're supposedly trying to make stamina more viable for advanced PVE, hence the nerf to orbs and the buff to caltrops. But this change just increases the gap in penetration between magicka and stamina, so bringing a few stamina dds along in a mixed group setup will be even less viable.

    Finally, the change doesn't even do anything to rein in power. Mag dds will still be able to hit the penetration cap just as they could before, they will just have fewer options so we will be back to everyone wearing exactly the same gear (MS).

    Please just change this back so we get the full amount of penetration that was available in Flames of Ambition (or even a bit more, in order to put magicka and stamina more equally able to compete together), just from 20 points in piercing rather than 40.

    Please pay attention to this poster that's quoted. You guys are consistently making it harder for stamina to compete with end game scoring runs. How are we supposed to reach penetration cap now? Do you not want stamina to be viable for PvE end game? Where do these supposed changes come from and who thinks of them without completely going through how they will effect both stamina and magicka? This will completely DELETE stamina in trial groups. Please, get into your game and play all characters and classes so that you get a sense of what you are literally doing to half of the DD classes. Please remember that staves are not the only weapons that you put into your game and that melee DD isnt just a myth for PvE!
  • merpins
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    The playerbase wasn't complaining about the power of the new CP tree as stated in the Patch Notes. We were complaining about the road to getting any vertical progression was too long. For casual players, it will take nearly a year, if not longer, to get to 2000 cp, whereas before the CP2 update, we'd be fine around 700. Now not only do we need 2,000, but for dps, we're not even where we were before and that's good for balancing, but CP2 as it sits feels a bit weak, nerfing it more just kills game diversity. At a certain point, the lack of vertical progression makes it so there are only a handful of viable builds, which all use the same sets. For example I've made many interesting builds since the previous patch, but losing 300 crit rate AND 650 physical penetration makes the build no longer really work in PVE, especially after the already heavy nerf to crit rate.

    To reiterate, your quote "In response to the feedback that there is still too much vertical progression in the Champion Point system," is not representative of the playerbase at all. There is barely any vertical progression in CP2 as it sits now, and nerfing it more, at least nerfing the passives, isn't what we wanted.

    You know what would fix the issue? Get off the idea of having 3 separate trees with 3 separate grinds to get the points you need. There are several levels where you get no real progreession at all, since you need a certain number of points to actually get any improvement. By making it so, rather than getting 1 point in red, 1 point in green, and 1 point in blue alternating with each level, just combine the pools and let us put them into whatever tree we want. It would fix the problem of "you need 2000 cp to be competitive," allow us to use it on what we want, and allow you to play with the trees more, since you can STILL have the trees be separate... And then you could have branches in a tree that connect to one of the other trees or BOTH, allowing for interesting new skills you could add later, which wouldn't be possible if the pool for CP is separate for each tree.
    Edited by merpins on April 22, 2021 3:30AM
  • SilverKatz
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    I would report that the changes to Malacath's Band of Brutality is making it into the next thing to useless .

    "Malacath's Band of Brutality: This set now increases your damage done by 16% but reduces your Critical Damage done by 50%, rather than increasing your damage done by 25% and making you unable to deal Critical Damage."

    If the dmg is counted as crit then it will go through crit resistance before armores and other ways of mitigations . which would end up a lesser damage than non-crit dmg, depending on target's crit mitigations. In onther word , with malacath , the more crits or higher crit damage will heavily decrease the benifit from malacath.

    I have no idea whether this is intended or a bug .
  • Lughlongarm
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    I encountered a strange stamina drain while blocking. My stamina goes from 7k to 0 in one hit.
    I used Warden with ice staff.
  • Princess_Ciri
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    The Powerful Assault buff will prioritise the necromancer class over any other class, and is least likely to go on Templars.

    This is also an issue on live - evidence can all be seen here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7215993#
    GM and raid leader of Hot Girls Play DPS, the cutest guild EU
  • Grumble_and_Grunt
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    The Powerful Assault buff will prioritise the necromancer class over any other class, and is least likely to go on Templars.

    This is also an issue on live - evidence can all be seen here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7215993#

    Yes please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Fix Powerful Assault
    #3Qbiken
  • FThisIWantALongerNam
    The Powerful Assault buff will prioritise the necromancer class over any other class, and is least likely to go on Templars.

    This is also an issue on live - evidence can all be seen here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7215993#

    As the person who primarily plays magsorc and magcro, the classes who always get the buff, I wholeheartedly agree that arbitrary class favoritism is ridiculous and should be addressed/fixed.
  • Mahabahabtha
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    ajkb78 wrote: »

    Finally, the change doesn't even do anything to rein in power. Mag dds will still be able to hit the penetration cap just as they could before, they will just have fewer options so we will be back to everyone wearing exactly the same gear (MS).


    incoming Mother Sorrow Nerf in

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    2...

    1...

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    "In fact, I’ve met more PVEers that are worse at PvE than PvPers."
  • master_vanargand
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    Sometimes Nightblade's spectral bow of Grim Focus does not fire.
    Grim Focus's 5 stacks disappear and do nothing.
    I use Relentless Focus and I think Merciless Resolve is the same.
    I don't know why it happens.
    I have previously reported this bug.
    Sometimes Nightblade's spectral bow of Grim Focus does not fire.
    Grim Focus's 5 stacks disappear and do nothing.
    I use Relentless Focus and I think Merciless Resolve is the same.
    I don't know why it happens.

    Obviously this is a bug.

    There is a video of the evidence.
    I happened to discover a bug while playing this game on Twitch live.
    Videos are PC, NA server, Japanese.
    These are videos of playing PvP Battlegrounds.
    My character name is "Ryu Vanargand".
    Please fix this bug.

    Date: 03/11/2021 22:55:10 JST(UTC+0900)


    [Clip of this video] [BUG] Relentless Focus's spectral bow does not fire
    https://clips.twitch.tv/DelightfulKnottyCheeseSuperVinlin-UmRHIYCfdb4WYxVO


    Corrected the date of the video.
    The video was 03/11/2021 22:55:10 JST(UTC+0900).


    Spell Orb of Psijic Order skill, Infernal Guardian set, Unfathomable Darkness set destroy invisibility of enemy players.
    They destroy invisibility when activated.
    In other words, they destroys Invisibility even if it doesn't hit enemy player.
    In addition, they are destroying a wide range of invisibility in the process of finding a target to shoot.
    Perhaps they destroy invisibility even if invisibility enemy players aren't targeted.
    I have previously reported this bug.
    Spell Orb of Psijic Order skill, Infernal Guardian set, Unfathomable Darkness set destroy invisibility of enemy players.
    They destroy invisibility when activated.
    In other words, they destroys Invisibility even if it doesn't hit enemy player.
    In addition, they are destroying a wide range of invisibility in the process of finding a target to shoot.
    Perhaps they destroy invisibility even if invisibility enemy players aren't targeted.

    Obviously this is a bug.

    There is a video of the evidence.
    I happened to discover a bug while playing this game on Twitch live.
    Videos are PC, NA server, Japanese.
    These are videos of playing PvP Battlegrounds.
    My character name is "Ryu Vanargand".
    Please fix this bug.

    Date: 03/31/2021 00:25:30 JST(UTC+0900)


    [Clip of this video] [BUG] Infernal Guardian set destroys invisible of player.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/BloodyInexpensiveAntFutureMan-JKRcClSEIx7qBTBy

    [Clip of this video] [BUG] Spell Orb of Psijic Order passive skill destroys invisible of player.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/SlipperySmilingWormDatSheffy-wAg6BosPt0d1qMcY

    [Clip of this video] [TEST] Spell Orb of Psijic Order passive skill can be evaded with Cloak after it has been fired.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/TenaciousPreciousClipzBIRB-nh9zWAEAJ92LZaSO

    Date: 03/11/2021 22:55:10 JST(UTC+0900)


    [Clip of this video] [BUG] Unfathomable Darkness set destroys invisible of player.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/PowerfulShinyKangarooGingerPower-V_pb3uCocnfnXdpp

    [Clip of this video] [BUG] Destroy invisible when an enemy in the Unfathomable Darkness set is nearby.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/CrunchyBigPlumageDxCat-MEBbbGqq7CAVIP2I

    Corrected the date of the video.
    The bottom video was 03/11/2021 22:55:10 JST(UTC+0900).

    Please fix the bug.
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