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Was it ever confirmed if "tea-bagging" is against TOS now?
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »In cyrodiil getting t bag a regular thing or is it just because I play nb 😭
You get bagged if;
1. You're a Night Blade.
2. You use a Bow.
3. You attempt to gank and fail.
4. You just lose.
5. It's fun to them.
6. You complained in a whisper.
They come up with any reason really. What's funny to me is WHO does it. I can be jumped by 3 to 5 people while I'm alone and the one player who didn't get a hit in will bag.
add use proc sets to that list, or care about faction loyalty1 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As with many things in-game, context is very important. The act of standing and squatting over another NPC or character to teabag them can be considered a form of harassment which can be a violation of the Terms of Service (ToS). As with all forms of harassment, if a player asks you to stop a behavior, you need to stop. If you continue to teabag someone that asks you to stop, that is a violation of the ToS and may lead to your account being suspended or even permanently banned. Hope this helps clear things up
gina iam not out to cause trouble but just need clarification on your response to things, so to be clear we need to take a screen shot (which can only be done by targeting them ) and then send a message which will take 5 mins, as remembering a ingame is hard to do with some of the names, teabagging i dont care about unlike other peeps and compainies but i was just after clarification on your stance to this this is how to record who does it, and also to clarify its ok to teabag someone once and if they dont tell you to stop to keep tea bagging them?Edited by alainjbrennanb16_ESO on September 23, 2020 8:18PMMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike1 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭Deathlord92 wrote: »In cyrodiil getting t bag a regular thing or is it just because I play nb 😭
You get bagged if;
1. You're a Night Blade.
2. You use a Bow.
3. You attempt to gank and fail.
4. You just lose.
5. It's fun to them.
6. You complained in a whisper.
They come up with any reason really. What's funny to me is WHO does it. I can be jumped by 3 to 5 people while I'm alone and the one player who didn't get a hit in will bag.
add use proc sets to that list, or care about faction loyalty
add literally everything to that list.1 -
Flaaklypa✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »In cyrodiil getting t bag a regular thing or is it just because I play nb 😭
You get bagged if;
1. You're a Night Blade.
2. You use a Bow.
3. You attempt to gank and fail.
4. You just lose.
5. It's fun to them.
6. You complained in a whisper.
They come up with any reason really. What's funny to me is WHO does it. I can be jumped by 3 to 5 people while I'm alone and the one player who didn't get a hit in will bag.
50-60k harbinger necros does deserve a good T-Bag1 -
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✭Just use the crown bought emotes...Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
__________________________Backstories:_________________________
Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
Returning player - 2017-2022, back in 25'1 -
MrTrenbolone✭✭✭So we have to play PvP in offline mode so they can't whisper us to stop tbagging, gotcha!8
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As with many things in-game, context is very important. The act of standing and squatting over another NPC or character to teabag them can be considered a form of harassment which can be a violation of the Terms of Service (ToS). As with all forms of harassment, if a player asks you to stop a behavior, you need to stop. If you continue to teabag someone that asks you to stop, that is a violation of the ToS and may lead to your account being suspended or even permanently banned. Hope this helps clear things up
Thanks for the official word! There's been a lot of debate back and forth since the new TOS and its great to get it clarified.2 -
Casul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can I get a point down emote. I'm just going to dark souls this whole server.PvP needs more love.0 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Prof_Bawbag wrote: »It's the in-game equivalent of a kid putting his/her thumb to his or her nose and wiggling the four remaining fingers. I simply can't fathom why anyone would get upset with this.
I see it as an in-game demonstration that someone is an immature little waste of oxygen. (as well as a clear example why people think pvp is a steaming pit of scum, to be avoided. As well as yet another sign that humanity in general may have been a mistake) And I simply can't fathom why anyone would want to do it.
But, then, I don't understand why any of the idiotic "macho" bull**** in any kind of sports & competition (like trash-talking) is accepted or seen as a positive thing.
And yet your slew of insults are somehow considered mature?
This is why trying to discuss things with immature people is a waste of time -- to explain things in terms they understand, you have to lower the whole conversation into the gutter.
Just ban the behavior and the people engaging in the behavior.
It's like when a child trolls you with just "why why why". They don't want to be reasonable so don't waste time being reasonable with them. Just enforce the rules.
Players who don't want to risk a ban for this behavior should not agree to the TOS.Edited by Dusk_Coven on September 23, 2020 10:31PM6 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭JanTanhide wrote: »Well, if it is about 70% of PVP players will soon be banned.
Not a bad thing. Makes room for mature PvP players. If the forums are any indication, there is a severe lack of those.
Change the community for the better.Edited by Dusk_Coven on September 23, 2020 10:29PM11 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As with many things in-game, context is very important. The act of standing and squatting over another NPC or character to teabag them can be considered a form of harassment which can be a violation of the Terms of Service (ToS). As with all forms of harassment, if a player asks you to stop a behavior, you need to stop. If you continue to teabag someone that asks you to stop, that is a violation of the ToS and may lead to your account being suspended or even permanently banned. Hope this helps clear things up
Thank you for the post regarding repeated offenses, but there needs to be further clarification regarding the initial instance of teabagging.
If a person does not want to be teabagged at all, must they now wait until a person teabags them and then ask that person to stop before being able to report only in the event of a second instance? If so, they may be freely subjected to as many teabags as there are players who want to teabag them. We cannot regress to "potentially unwanted sexual attention is ok until they say no." You cannot consent for your players like that. "First ball-dip free" is not a competent sexual harassment policy.10 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »I gotta laugh at Gina's statement.
Asking a teabagger to stop teabagging is the best way to ensure it continues and does it again and again because it basically translates into "you succeeded at upsetting me".
That being said, I understand ZOS' vague positioning. It's not their responsibility to make decent people out of teabaggers.
[snip]
In another sense, asking them to stop is the necessary step that takes it from "maybe in good fun" to "okay, that's discipline-worthy" when they don't stop.
It reminds me of trying to report something to HR. A lot of times, they want documentation of warning(s) about the problem behavior, so that the following escalation of the problem behavior is obviously problematic.
Yeah, it sucks that the burden is on the person reporting the problem to HR/ZOS because there's always the risk of bad escalation, but I can see from the HR/ZOS perspective that its always better to A) give the person a chance to stop the problem behavior on their own, and B.) have documentation that the person was warned, then escalated the problem behavior, thus making it a clear-cut matter for discipline.
True. I took the vagueness, especially the case by case part, to mean anything can be harassment. Players can take something to far.0 -
B0SSzombie✭✭✭✭✭
✭People still teabag in the year 2020?
Just another reason I can't stand PVP I guess.11 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »I gotta laugh at Gina's statement.
Asking a teabagger to stop teabagging is the best way to ensure it continues and does it again and again because it basically translates into "you succeeded at upsetting me".
That being said, I understand ZOS' vague positioning. It's not their responsibility to make decent people out of teabaggers.
[snip]
In another sense, asking them to stop is the necessary step that takes it from "maybe in good fun" to "okay, that's discipline-worthy" when they don't stop.
It reminds me of trying to report something to HR. A lot of times, they want documentation of warning(s) about the problem behavior, so that the following escalation of the problem behavior is obviously problematic.
Yeah, it sucks that the burden is on the person reporting the problem to HR/ZOS because there's always the risk of bad escalation, but I can see from the HR/ZOS perspective that its always better to A) give the person a chance to stop the problem behavior on their own, and B.) have documentation that the person was warned, then escalated the problem behavior, thus making it a clear-cut matter for discipline.
Yet another illustration of why we need to be able to view our sent mail. It strikes me that unless you have the forethought in the heat of the moment to take a screenshot (and assuming you already know how to do that, which I'm guessing not everyone does), then it's a bit hard to prove that you asked someone to stop.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It strikes me that unless you have the forethought in the heat of the moment to take a screenshot... then it's a bit hard to prove that you asked someone to stop.
I know most games log chats. I would think ESO probably does, too. At least I hope they do. So when you send a report, it should flag the chat a little before, during and after the incident.
I personally would be glad to see this type of gesture completely removed from PvP, so others would be comfortable giving it a chance. The way it is now, it's like walking into a room of ..., I can't think of a word that wouldn't be snipped, but you get the idea.
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MrGhosty✭✭✭✭✭Good rule of thumb is don't Teabag unless you know the person on the other end will understand the nature of it. There are also better ways to be cheeky (I prefer the sweep emote when someone won't release) but as with all things in life, moderation is key. The other aspect is how players view their in-game avatars. If they see their character simply as a conduit for a preferred activity, they are less likely to be affected negatively by an emote/crouch. If they are putting themselves into the shoes of their character, they are likely to find more at fault with the aforementioned behaviors. None of this should be handled at the Developer level unless it goes beyond annoyance into toxic harassment. Getting bagged is just the price for PvP and has been since people figured out how to do it and it caught on enough for that to be the accepted meaning of the action.
We can only really control ourselves though, so if someone behaves in a way you find reprehensible just ignore it and move on. They're most likely farming for the whispers that indicate they've got under your skin."It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."5 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »I gotta laugh at Gina's statement.
Asking a teabagger to stop teabagging is the best way to ensure it continues and does it again and again because it basically translates into "you succeeded at upsetting me".
That being said, I understand ZOS' vague positioning. It's not their responsibility to make decent people out of teabaggers.
[snip]
In another sense, asking them to stop is the necessary step that takes it from "maybe in good fun" to "okay, that's discipline-worthy" when they don't stop.
It reminds me of trying to report something to HR. A lot of times, they want documentation of warning(s) about the problem behavior, so that the following escalation of the problem behavior is obviously problematic.
Yeah, it sucks that the burden is on the person reporting the problem to HR/ZOS because there's always the risk of bad escalation, but I can see from the HR/ZOS perspective that its always better to A) give the person a chance to stop the problem behavior on their own, and B.) have documentation that the person was warned, then escalated the problem behavior, thus making it a clear-cut matter for discipline.
Yet another illustration of why we need to be able to view our sent mail. It strikes me that unless you have the forethought in the heat of the moment to take a screenshot (and assuming you already know how to do that, which I'm guessing not everyone does), then it's a bit hard to prove that you asked someone to stop.
I use whispers for communicating with people who killed me, which are easier to screenshot as needed. Though I'm usually complimenting their punny names, so its not been a problem.
In any case, ZOS can and does check the game chat (example: they suggest people agree to trade terms using in game methods so they can double check in case of scammers), so any sort of mail or chat should be verifiable if ZOS cares to.0 -
EdmondDontes✭✭✭✭✭
✭The rule to remember is that the TOS is so overly broad and generic that it can mean anything ZOS wants it to mean. Some companies write their TOS like that because, well....they have their reasons.3 -
Bucky_13✭✭✭✭✭
✭BlackRaidho wrote: »Every sneaky coward NB deserve a T-bag.
Change my mind.
When I'm on my sneaky and annoying build: you've already wasted far too much time chasing me instead of doing something more useful, and then you waste even more time to teabag me. When this happens I consider it a compliment. Not sure if that changes you mind, but if you ever teabag me, I will appreciate it.
My favorite teabagging someone did to me was a templar outside of Chalman. First, I ganked him in from fairly close range. I stayed in the same spot and less than a minute later he came back for revenge, I decided to give him a fair fight and went out of sneak. When he started jabbing I dodged thru him and then sniped him to death from melee range just before a horde of DCs arrived and killed me a few seconds later. They then resurrected him, and he ran straight up to me and started teabagging me while I couldn't stop laughing.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As with many things in-game, context is very important. The act of standing and squatting over another NPC or character to teabag them can be considered a form of harassment which can be a violation of the Terms of Service (ToS). As with all forms of harassment, if a player asks you to stop a behavior, you need to stop. If you continue to teabag someone that asks you to stop, that is a violation of the ToS and may lead to your account being suspended or even permanently banned. Hope this helps clear things up
Basically, No means No.2 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭I played PVP during the 'dot-meta' in Imperial Sewers. The amount of grief (e.g. stalking/camping) and poor sportsmanship (e.g. tea-bagging) that occurred made it so that I will never walk into another ESO PVP environment. Its nice to know that you can respectfully ask them to stop, then report if they do not, but unless the mentality of most PVPers change - I wont be there.4 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭It all depends on who does the investigating and what kind of mood they are in at that time. It also depends on who did the t-bag and who was the "victim", it might be funny or offensive. Such an action can be considered taunting, harassment, sexual offensive or any number of other insults. Unfortunately ZOS is not consistent in their own code of conduct.
zos IS consistent. consistently vague.1 -
DarcyMardin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Anyone t-bags me, I just tell them I’m a 72 year old woman IRL (true) and they usually run away as fast as they can.Edited by DarcyMardin on September 24, 2020 3:08PM9 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As with many things in-game, context is very important. The act of standing and squatting over another NPC or character to teabag them can be considered a form of harassment which can be a violation of the Terms of Service (ToS). As with all forms of harassment, if a player asks you to stop a behavior, you need to stop. If you continue to teabag someone that asks you to stop, that is a violation of the ToS and may lead to your account being suspended or even permanently banned. Hope this helps clear things up
I just brought this up in my guild, where some people feel similar to me, and they brought up a good point:
The players that intentionally grief/t-bag, to troll or hurt peoples' feelings, are likely going to be playing in [Offline] mode. How are we supposed to ask them to stop when we can not communicate?
... Maybe add a social feature where a generic message/warning can be delivered to someone in [Offline]? Or can we just send them mail, instead of a whisper, to set the course of an ESO investigation?7 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have talked to Gina and here's their official statement on the new CoC and PvP
It's interesting to notice the difference in attitude of different developers towards pvp ganking. Blizzard for example have no problem with you doing nothing but camping the same popular wow noob quest hub spot 8 hours a day for months, killing literally thousands of low level players again and again and again, just for the lulz of it(or whatever reason they have to do it), there's no limit. ZOS has a limit for the ganking though it seems.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Jayman1000 wrote: »I have talked to Gina and here's their official statement on the new CoC and PvP
It's interesting to notice the difference in attitude of different developers towards pvp ganking. Blizzard for example have no problem with you doing nothing but camping the same popular wow noob quest hub spot 8 hours a day for months, killing literally thousands of low level players again and again and again, just for the lulz of it(or whatever reason they have to do it), there's no limit. ZOS has a limit for the ganking though it seems.
odd how I do not see that in this statement. I would even suggest there is a big difference between a player stalking another player to an extreme in PvP vs a player coming to the same area over and over and getting killed by the same player. One requires very extensive effort of the attacker to find the target over and over vs the target not learning from their mistakes.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »In cyrodiil getting t bag a regular thing or is it just because I play nb 😭
You get bagged if;
1. You're a Night Blade.
2. You use a Bow.
3. You attempt to gank and fail.
4. You just lose.
5. It's fun to them.
6. You complained in a whisper.
They come up with any reason really. What's funny to me is WHO does it. I can be jumped by 3 to 5 people while I'm alone and the one player who didn't get a hit in will bag.
add use proc sets to that list, or care about faction loyalty
Oi....I care.
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ZaroktheImmortal✭✭✭✭✭
✭MrTrenbolone wrote: »So we have to play PvP in offline mode so they can't whisper us to stop tbagging, gotcha!
They could likely still report you since you're purposely ignoring messages to stop1 -
x48rph✭✭✭✭✭
✭Deathlord92 wrote: »In cyrodiil getting t bag a regular thing or is it just because I play nb 😭
You get bagged if;
1. You're a Night Blade.
2. You use a Bow.
3. You attempt to gank and fail.
4. You just lose.
5. It's fun to them.
6. You complained in a whisper.
They come up with any reason really. What's funny to me is WHO does it. I can be jumped by 3 to 5 people while I'm alone and the one player who didn't get a hit in will bag.
THIS!!! Lol, it's always the player who didn't even help to kill you
Personally I think tea bagging is just dumb and I never would do it but do I care that others do? Of course not, it's a game , it's not like they are tea bagging you in real life. People who get outraged and/or report for this really need to relax and take a step back.0
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