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The new 'improved' stranglers

  • Taleof2Cities
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    Still at least two (2) more weeks of testing, @Red_Feather ... maybe more.
    "May you walk on warm sands."
    "First, I would ask that you look to the poor and the suffering around Cyrodiil. Look into their hearts, and then look into your own."
    "May Auri-El's light guide you in your darkest hours."

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  • Kolzki
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    Yeah, it's 6k base health lost. Base health is then multiplied up by CP, undaunted passives, class passives, heavy armour passives etc.
  • Mayrael
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    So indeed it's a trash set now... It's a kiss curse set but you kiss... the part of the body where back loses its noble name.
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.

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  • fred4
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    katorga wrote: »
    De-con candidate now.

    I wonder what you get if you decon an orange item?
    A year's supply of OJ from ZOS?
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  • Red_Feather
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    You asked the right questions redspecter.
  • JinMori
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    Aegeides wrote: »

    So, where are we supposed to use these now?

    Roleplay

    Yea, it's a roleplay set now basically.
  • Tanis-Stormbinder
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    This must be some kind of sick joke, all they needed to do was tone down the damage per stack and add weapon damage. I just don't understand their mindset. If they don't want people to use the item then just remove it from the game. The Antiquities system would be just another source of furnishings
    Edited by Tanis-Stormbinder on July 27, 2020 8:57PM
  • MJallday
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    Congratulations on making the one set in this game that made it FUN for everyone to play and no one complained about, to literally the worst item in the game since the beekeepers helmet
  • Svenja
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    And here I am, thinking they couldn't worsen this set by each update. OH HOWDY, HOW WRONG I WAS..

    Allow me to display how I feel about this overal
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    You made my day. :D:D:D
    Edited by ZOS_TrishM on July 28, 2020 4:09PM
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  • Myrddin1357
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    I can't see why anyone would choose this over the 5th piece bonus of burning spellweave or a similar set. You have to kill 50 enemies just to get a few hundred more spell damage than BSW and for that tiny extra bit of spell power, you lose over 6k health. No one would ever choose to use this.

    BSW has a proc but killing 50 enemies to get to 850 and losing it if you die or fast travel isn't exactly better than a proc.
    Edited by Myrddin1357 on July 27, 2020 8:50PM
  • kojou
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?
    Playing since beta...
  • Sharpshootet2342
    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    Still wouldn't be enough health remember plague Dr got nerfed way back
  • Erraln
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    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    GbDCr.jpg

    5,412? Nope, still a loss :)
  • kojou
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    Erraln wrote: »
    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    GbDCr.jpg

    5,412? Nope, still a loss :)

    In 6.1.0 -

    Plague Doctor:

    Changed the 4 piece to Health, rather than Healing Taken.
    Reduced the Max Health of the 5 piece to 2804, down from 3000.

    so technically it will give 6422.

    I am still not saying anyone should do it... that is 6 item pieces to get 850 damage if you are lucky enough to kill 50 things in the content you are running.
    Playing since beta...
  • Sharpshootet2342
    Do they know how many people bought this chapter for strangers? These mythic items are supposed to be very powerful. They baited us to buy the dlc with these then made them completely useless. I see a bunch of people not buying their chapters anymore. This made the game fun for end game community again now it will just be back to boring. Stranglers made base dungeons a bit challenging for people who are bored with this game. I feel they used them to bait us all into buying greymoor knowing they would make them useless before the next patch.

    I feel so used

    I feel used and duped into buying this chapter. It's bad enough they are still milking skyrim after so many years.
  • MJallday
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    No one bought this chapter for the gloves

    Literally everyone farmed them week one though

    Congrats on annoying the entire community in one Move
  • Erraln
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    kojou wrote: »
    Erraln wrote: »
    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    GbDCr.jpg

    5,412? Nope, still a loss :)

    In 6.1.0 -

    Plague Doctor:

    Changed the 4 piece to Health, rather than Healing Taken.
    Reduced the Max Health of the 5 piece to 2804, down from 3000.

    so technically it will give 6422.

    I am still not saying anyone should do it... that is 6 item pieces to get 850 damage if you are lucky enough to kill 50 things in the content you are running.

    Ah, thanks, I missed that bit.

    Honestly though, I've mostly been using the silly gloves to grind my characters overland. It won't even be worth doing that, coming up! That's like the one thing where you'd consistently get those 50 kills together, but 850 is just too tiny. I could get better results from slapping on Balorgh, if this is how it'll be.

    I had to fish for these godforsaken gloves, and that sacrifice of sanity and enjoyment must remain worth using, dangit! FISHING! TWICE EVEN!
    Edited by Erraln on July 27, 2020 9:48PM
  • kojou
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    Erraln wrote: »
    kojou wrote: »
    Erraln wrote: »
    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    GbDCr.jpg

    5,412? Nope, still a loss :)

    In 6.1.0 -

    Plague Doctor:

    Changed the 4 piece to Health, rather than Healing Taken.
    Reduced the Max Health of the 5 piece to 2804, down from 3000.

    so technically it will give 6422.

    I am still not saying anyone should do it... that is 6 item pieces to get 850 damage if you are lucky enough to kill 50 things in the content you are running.

    Ah, thanks, I missed that bit.

    Honestly though, I've mostly been using the silly gloves to grind my characters overland. It won't even be worth doing that, coming up! That's like the one thing where you'd consistently get those 50 kills together, but 850 is just too tiny. I could get better results from slapping on Balorgh, if this is how it'll be.

    Agreed... there are much better ways to get to that power level without having to sacrifice so much. Balorgh being one of my favorites as well.

    and yes, fishing for 2 different leads was so much suckage.
    Edited by kojou on July 27, 2020 10:00PM
    Playing since beta...
  • Josira
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    And here I am, thinking they couldn't worsen this set by each update. OH HOWDY, HOW WRONG I WAS..

    Allow me to display how I feel about this overal
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    [Edited for inappropriate image]

    Me @ the Vampire Rework. actually just me @ the Vampire Skill Line. all Iterations of it that there have been.
    Edited by ZOS_TrishM on July 28, 2020 4:15PM
    "BlooD FReNZy TicKS aLL thE BoXes of WhaT iT mEanS tO bE a VaMpiRe"
  • Kolzki
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    kojou wrote: »
    Erraln wrote: »
    kojou wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    Kolzki wrote: »
    I just tested the health debuff on pts in overland. It affects base health, not buffed health. I'm losing 158 health per stack which would be a loss of 7900 health at 50 stacks.

    Correction, I lost a total of 8,299 health at 50 stacks.

    lol... So you have to run Plague Dr with Trashians now?

    GbDCr.jpg

    5,412? Nope, still a loss :)

    In 6.1.0 -

    Plague Doctor:

    Changed the 4 piece to Health, rather than Healing Taken.
    Reduced the Max Health of the 5 piece to 2804, down from 3000.

    so technically it will give 6422.

    I am still not saying anyone should do it... that is 6 item pieces to get 850 damage if you are lucky enough to kill 50 things in the content you are running.

    You could move attribute points into health to get the same effect. After doing that, the effective damage from stranglers looks similar to running a monster set and it would be a dps loss until close to 50 stacks.

    I think we have to take the health loss for this version of stranglers to be a damage buff. It doesn't seem worth it though.
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