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[PC EU] Trader swap failed. Please remember u23 fiasco and act quick

OsManiaC
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I am writing this +30 mins and zones have free traders.

Thanks in advance. Just be aware of previous issues please.

Note: especially GOLD xxxxx dupes.

Edit2: @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_KaiSchober I know you hate me but please help my GM friends. I have no guilds, just thinking of them.
Edited by OsManiaC on May 31, 2020 7:49PM
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  • BansheeVT
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    And random people can hire traders again, which were bid on (and won) by other guilds
    Next black sunday, ZOS? Really?
    @BansheeVT - GM of 'Valinor Traders'.

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    Valinor Traders: Vivec, 500k sales, <500k sales = 25k fee, <250k sales = kick
    Valinor Overflow: Vivec back row, 150k min sales OR 15k donation
    Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales OR 10k donation
    Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales OR 8k donation
    Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales OR 5k donation
  • Titansteele
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    The guilds who have picked the traders up should enjoy the ban hammer, alot of them were around for the first time this happened and see what the consequences were.
    Guild Leader of The Twelve Knights, AD PVE, PVP and Trading Guild on the EU Mega Server

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  • EC_Rob
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Almost all trader swaps have gone wrong. I have won all bids I made, yet I have no spot. I am unable to hire another trader as the guild page tells us we have won our bids.

    Please fix this asap, this is costing us millions and millions. I was dreading this sunday due to the simple fact we expected failure. And, here it is.

    We want either our spots as intented, or full bid compensation.
    @EC_Rob
    GM of Nirn Traders (PC-EU)
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  • zvavi
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    Lol.
  • ValueDrift
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    One of these days they'll code a fail-safe that locks everything down if normal operation fails. One of these days.
  • EC_Rob
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    The guilds who have picked the traders up should enjoy the ban hammer, alot of them were around for the first time this happened and see what the consequences were.

    Im not sure if this is the answer. In all honesty, its not their fault. They exploit a bug in some sorts, correct.. But this bug should not have happened in the first place. You'd think someone would learn from their mistakes. Right??
    @EC_Rob
    GM of Nirn Traders (PC-EU)
    GM of Aetherius Trade (PC-EU)
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    Keep it causal, enjoy your games.
    Kill in good spirit, die in good spirit.

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  • SammiSakura
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    Only unaffected city seems to be Wayrest. Please fix asap ZOS. This is a nightmare. We should have put bets on this happening
    Edited by SammiSakura on May 31, 2020 8:13PM
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  • JN_Slevin
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    Wait, where have i seen this before?
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  • GoddessExile
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    Hired our Trader, mail confirmed and homepage yet a random non trade guild claimed it :s:s here it goes again
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  • Tendrielle
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    This is indeed a crucial issue, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_KaiSchober in case you are reading this.
  • Sturmfaenger
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    please not again a black sunday.
    At least ZOS should know what do do - even if it is sad that it happened again.
    PC/EU
  • Elessar1993
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    Seems very familiar, only difference this time is that i don't see excess gold in the guild bank... just an empty trader, can't hire anything cause i won my bid and i'm robbed of the gold i put in... I really hope for a good and fast resolution this time
    Guildmaster of Stendarr's Merchantry which is part of Valinor Trading Union
    • Valinor Traders: Vivec, 300k sales or 20 donations, @BansheeVT
    • Valinor Overflow: Vivec, 150k sales or 15k donations, @Muradinius
    • Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales or 10k donations, @BansheeVM
    • Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales or 8k donations, @Leandra.c
    • Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales or 5k donations, @Elessar1993
  • redgreensunset
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    ValueDrift wrote: »
    One of these days they'll code a fail-safe that locks everything down if normal operation fails. One of these days.

    But today is not that day. Clearly.
  • SammiSakura
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    BlackSundayPt2
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  • Nicky33
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    The trader swap bug occurs again, right after the big patch.

    [snip]

    [Edited to remove Bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 1, 2020 3:18PM
  • whoathere
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    And for the love of all things nice, we don't need "we'll fix it when we get to it", this needed to be fixed A YEAR AGO! It's honestly getting ridiculous how screwed over trader guilds are every patch.
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Wondering what's so hard about stopping to limit the trader swap to 5 minutes.... And instead of letting trader swap as soon as script finished calculating traders m(

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


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  • whoathere
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    At this point, zos needs to take hard look at themselves and decide: can they fix this system with minimal bugs in the future, or implement a system that almost every other mmo has that seems to work with no problems. At this point as a GM I support auction house just because it's a system that *** works.

    Then again, zos being zos, they'll manage to break that too
  • joerginger
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    ValueDrift wrote: »
    One of these days they'll code a fail-safe that locks everything down if normal operation fails. One of these days.

    In the year 2525...
  • furball_82dk
    EC_Rob wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Almost all trader swaps have gone wrong. I have won all bids I made, yet I have no spot. I am unable to hire another trader as the guild page tells us we have won our bids.

    Please fix this asap, this is costing us millions and millions. I was dreading this sunday due to the simple fact we expected failure. And, here it is.

    We want either our spots as intented, or full bid compensation.


    I´m in the same boat, so yes i still have nightmares of the first time, maybe some better fix could be hoped for ?
  • SammiSakura
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    REMEMBER TO SCREENSHOT YOUR BANK BALANCES GM'S!
    @SammiSakura - EU Server - Here Since 14th October 2016
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    ~ The Forbidden Cleavage (in Alinor, Summerset)
    ~ Brave Cat Trade (in Leyawiin, Blackwood)
    ~ Daedric Baanditos (PvE/Social Guild, in random front row spots across Tamriel)
    PM @SammiSakura In-Game for Invites.

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    Click Here to Join & Start Trading Today!
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    * Samara Nevanni - Dunmer MagDK DD (PvE/P) (Master Crafter)
    * Adriana Silvani - Altmer MagSorc DD (PvE)
    * Tsanji-Ko - Khajiit StamDen DD (PvE)
    * Waits-For-Darkness - Argonian MagPlar Healer (PvE)
    * Lilith Valeine - Breton MagPlar DD (PvP)
    * Luna Rosalie - Bosmer StamBlade DD (PvP)
    * Mithrandir the Healer - Nord Magden Healer (PvE)
    * Talia Scythe-Song - Redguard Necro Tank (PvE)
    * Loki the Theif - Khajiit MagBlade (PvE)
  • BansheeVT
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober
    Can you guys please show us that you care about us and are reading this?

    This already happened.. this time we didn't get double refunds it seems but why can't you do it better this time? Servers still up, no official statements 80min+ after the *** happened and noone knows if we have to do a whole week without trader even though we won one and if we will get a compensation for the loss.. this is just very sad and leaves all of us angry and frustrated.

    And it already happened, similar to this time, why is it happening again? Why don't you have a worst case backup plan for stuff like this? The bid refund last time was just a bad joke to most of us, we lost members, we didn't get taxes, we couldn't advertise our trading guilds properly, we couldn't sell, etc.
    @BansheeVT - GM of 'Valinor Traders'.

    Valinor Trading Union:
    Valinor Traders: Vivec, 500k sales, <500k sales = 25k fee, <250k sales = kick
    Valinor Overflow: Vivec back row, 150k min sales OR 15k donation
    Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales OR 10k donation
    Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales OR 8k donation
    Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales OR 5k donation
  • FWSWBN
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    funny... in mournhold are now guilds i personaly never hear something about them.
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  • JN_Slevin
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    Tbh, if i think back the last few weeks something like this was bound to happen.. Like ever since the even the Traders seemed to swap later and later. We told them about it and nothing was acknowledged..

    Now the worst has happend and there is still not a word.

    This is just utterly devastating..
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  • SteveCampsOut
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno And Guild history didn''t show any of the refunds or spent gold til just now....So Our guild lost our winning bid gold and got no trader even though our page shows Nirywy in Cormount!
    Edited by SteveCampsOut on May 31, 2020 8:40PM
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  • Arrodisia
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    We won our bids and we had our trader for a few minutes, but now it's gone and so is our gold
    now the trader says it's for hire when you travel to it. We can't hire it now because it says we own it but every other guild can hire it. Many traders from multiple areas are being taken away from the guilds that won. These vendors costs millions of gold and we already lost millions due to multiple maintenances last week. Please, fix it or take down the servers, but help us.
    Edited by Arrodisia on May 31, 2020 9:40PM
  • LatinoShaman59
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    I think it's because we're on a sunday evening, hence the lack of response
  • BansheeVT
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno And Guild history doesn't show any of the refunds or spent gold!

    yup, gold for the bid I "won" is just gone even though some random guild was able to hire "my" trader for 10k
    Same for all my friends who "won" a trader but didn't really get it, except for wayrest, for whatever reason wayrest worked fine
    @BansheeVT - GM of 'Valinor Traders'.

    Valinor Trading Union:
    Valinor Traders: Vivec, 500k sales, <500k sales = 25k fee, <250k sales = kick
    Valinor Overflow: Vivec back row, 150k min sales OR 15k donation
    Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales OR 10k donation
    Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales OR 8k donation
    Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales OR 5k donation
  • BansheeVT
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    I think it's because we're on a sunday evening, hence the lack of response

    They know though that bid happened 1hr 40min ago, they knew that trader bids were delayed, we already had a black sunday and they should have known better and be prepared for this, yet, no response at all after 1hr 40min

    This is just ridiculous and direspectful ZOS.
    @BansheeVT - GM of 'Valinor Traders'.

    Valinor Trading Union:
    Valinor Traders: Vivec, 500k sales, <500k sales = 25k fee, <250k sales = kick
    Valinor Overflow: Vivec back row, 150k min sales OR 15k donation
    Valinor Merchants: Elden Root, 50k sales OR 10k donation
    Valinor Vendors: Wayrest, 25k sales OR 8k donation
    Stendarr's Merchantry: Alinor, 10k sales OR 5k donation
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