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Greymoor is still for free for people who didnt buy it...
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John_Falstaff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »This is like when that kid in class reminded the teacher they hadn’t set homework yet
Hey, don't let anyone stop you mate, you do you. Just don't come here whining about how you got banned for exploiting a known bug. You should know, however, that it won't be a direct result of forum posts. They're going to be looking at your game account to see what you've been up to. It's nobody's fault but your own, and if they decide "Well, they were all over the place on the forums trying to stop us from uncovering it, let's just permaban them", you've got no one to blame but yourself. You see, intelligent criminals don't talk about their crimes, you never know who's listening.
As stated above, people are still running necros created during similar bug. You're just being childish now by threatening people with myths. ZOS is responsible for access control to their zones. They screwed it up. Tough. They have to fix it ASAP, write off the losses and move on.5 -
DiNanna63✭✭✭After reading this thread, I checked and Greymoor is showing as being purchased. I have the new zones on my map and no pre-order bonuses in my collections. I submitted an in-game ticket and will not go into those zones since I did not purchase it.3 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »This is like when that kid in class reminded the teacher they hadn’t set homework yet
Hey, don't let anyone stop you mate, you do you. Just don't come here whining about how you got banned for exploiting a known bug. You should know, however, that it won't be a direct result of forum posts. They're going to be looking at your game account to see what you've been up to. It's nobody's fault but your own, and if they decide "Well, they were all over the place on the forums trying to stop us from uncovering it, let's just permaban them", you've got no one to blame but yourself. You see, intelligent criminals don't talk about their crimes, you never know who's listening.
As stated above, people are still running necros created during similar bug. You're just being childish now by threatening people with myths. ZOS is responsible for access control to their zones. They screwed it up. Tough. They have to fix it ASAP, write off the losses and move on.
LoL. Part of writing off the losses will be any accounts that they do decide to ban, if they're ESO+.0 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?2 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
According to posters in this thread you are a filthy thief who is exploiting and taking advantage of their exclusive dlc. Better just hand yourself into the police now.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...3 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.2 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.0 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.
Everything I have seen about them so far suggests that they will disappear after 30 days.
Yay! They don't take up storage space
Boo! They may be getting in the way of actually useful loot... and it is a nasty practice to drop things that players can't make use of without spending real money.
I'll take this as a net negative.3 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.
Everything I have seen about them so far suggests that they will disappear after 30 days.
Yay! They don't take up storage space
Boo! They may be getting in the way of actually useful loot... and it is a nasty practice to drop things that players can't make use of without spending real money.
I'll take this as a net negative.
So far, all the ones I've gotten have been in addition to what I got. Some of them randomly spawned into my inventory after a kill, for example, before I even looted. Not sure if that's WAI or not, but they haven't adversely affected any drops, in so far as I can tell.1 -
scorpius2k1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, I bought Greymoor and seeing the completely UNPROFESSIONAL silence yet again from Bethesda/Zenimax, I won't be buying anything related to them any longer. I am completely underwhelmed and disappointed with Greymoor, especially knowing so many are getting it for free. The design (especially Blackreach) is great however. Can we expect refunds for their mess up? Crowns? Surely not, even though this is the SECOND year in a row this same thing happened. I am not a compensation type, but if ZoS is going to allow a chapter to slip through as a freebie due to their own mistakes then it's only fair. I surely hope they will get their act together and stop repeating historical mistakes time and time again. ESO and it's playerbase surely deserve better and at the end of the day so does the team that designs it. Too bad it hasn't been that way since launch. Hopefully number 7 will be the lucky number for ESO because 6+ years sure hasn't shown much improvement. At this point, I highly doubt anything will change, Bethesda/Zenimax waited too long and didn't keep on top of things like they should have. ESO is quickly becoming a Fallout76 quality game to which there is no surprise.
I still enjoy ESO and will continue to play, but I'm yet another subscriber that has added themselves to this list:
Edited by scorpius2k1 on May 27, 2020 5:31PM🌎 PC/NA
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.
Everything I have seen about them so far suggests that they will disappear after 30 days.
Yay! They don't take up storage space
Boo! They may be getting in the way of actually useful loot... and it is a nasty practice to drop things that players can't make use of without spending real money.
I'll take this as a net negative.
So far, all the ones I've gotten have been in addition to what I got. Some of them randomly spawned into my inventory after a kill, for example, before I even looted. Not sure if that's WAI or not, but they haven't adversely affected any drops, in so far as I can tell.
I'll check. I'll see what the item count for chests without Leads and with Leads averages out to be.
Hopefully they will be different, suggesting that Leads are not taking the place of other items.
That would, at least, downgrade this from "utterly scummy" to merely "slimy".0 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭[snip]
As someone that paid for the item he isn't spoiling it because players who have paid should have access and those didn't shouldn't. It isn't spoiling it is correcting what went wrong. For those who got the free ride while it was available, enjoy it for what it is.
[removed quoted content]Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on May 27, 2020 6:36PM0 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.
Everything I have seen about them so far suggests that they will disappear after 30 days.
Yay! They don't take up storage space
Boo! They may be getting in the way of actually useful loot... and it is a nasty practice to drop things that players can't make use of without spending real money.
I'll take this as a net negative.
So far, all the ones I've gotten have been in addition to what I got. Some of them randomly spawned into my inventory after a kill, for example, before I even looted. Not sure if that's WAI or not, but they haven't adversely affected any drops, in so far as I can tell.
I'll check. I'll see what the item count for chests without Leads and with Leads averages out to be.
Hopefully they will be different, suggesting that Leads are not taking the place of other items.
That would, at least, downgrade this from "utterly scummy" to merely "slimy".
More like intrusive advertising. Sort of like swtor's loot thing where it's along the lines of "look what you could loot/use if you were subbed".0 -
John_Falstaff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »This is like when that kid in class reminded the teacher they hadn’t set homework yet
Hey, don't let anyone stop you mate, you do you. Just don't come here whining about how you got banned for exploiting a known bug. You should know, however, that it won't be a direct result of forum posts. They're going to be looking at your game account to see what you've been up to. It's nobody's fault but your own, and if they decide "Well, they were all over the place on the forums trying to stop us from uncovering it, let's just permaban them", you've got no one to blame but yourself. You see, intelligent criminals don't talk about their crimes, you never know who's listening.
As stated above, people are still running necros created during similar bug. You're just being childish now by threatening people with myths. ZOS is responsible for access control to their zones. They screwed it up. Tough. They have to fix it ASAP, write off the losses and move on.
LoL. Part of writing off the losses will be any accounts that they do decide to ban, if they're ESO+.
I mean, keep convincing yourself, I'm not the one to help the people out of the delusions they're evidently enjoying so much.
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Greymoor is showing as purchased, but I haven't bought it.
I haven't traveled to the zone or interacted with it in any way.
Yet, while opening chests in Vvardenfell a Lead dropped (that I can't act on, obviously).
Are leads supposed to drop in standard zone chests even if you don't have Greymoor?
Yes, each zone has a list, and they just put them in the drop tables, in case you do decide to buy the expansion later, probably as teasers...
So, instead of receiving something useful, I got something that I have to allow to time-out.
Wow, love the way ZOS is going with this.
If they even time out? At least they don't take up storage space.
Everything I have seen about them so far suggests that they will disappear after 30 days.
Yay! They don't take up storage space
Boo! They may be getting in the way of actually useful loot... and it is a nasty practice to drop things that players can't make use of without spending real money.
I'll take this as a net negative.
So far, all the ones I've gotten have been in addition to what I got. Some of them randomly spawned into my inventory after a kill, for example, before I even looted. Not sure if that's WAI or not, but they haven't adversely affected any drops, in so far as I can tell.
I'll check. I'll see what the item count for chests without Leads and with Leads averages out to be.
Hopefully they will be different, suggesting that Leads are not taking the place of other items.
That would, at least, downgrade this from "utterly scummy" to merely "slimy".
More like intrusive advertising. Sort of like swtor's loot thing where it's along the lines of "look what you could loot/use if you were subbed".
Yes. Intrusive advertising. As I said: "slimy"
I'm off into Vvardenfell to test the look tables.0 -
Siantar✭✭✭scorpius2k1 wrote: »Well, I bought Greymoor and seeing the completely UNPROFESSIONAL silence yet again from Bethesda/Zenimax, I won't be buying anything related to them any longer. I am completely underwhelmed and disappointed with Greymoor, especially knowing so many are getting it for free. The design (especially Blackreach) is great however. Can we expect refunds for their mess up? Crowns? Surely not, even though this is the SECOND year in a row this same thing happened. I am not a compensation type, but if ZoS is going to allow a chapter to slip through as a freebie due to their own mistakes then it's only fair. I surely hope they will get their act together and stop repeating historical mistakes time and time again. ESO and it's playerbase surely deserve better and at the end of the day so does the team that designs it. Too bad it hasn't been that way since launch. Hopefully number 7 will be the lucky number for ESO because 6+ years sure hasn't shown much improvement. At this point, I highly doubt anything will change, Bethesda/Zenimax waited too long and didn't keep on top of things like they should have. ESO is quickly becoming a Fallout76 quality game to which there is no surprise.
I still enjoy ESO and will continue to play, but I'm yet another subscriber that has added themselves to this list:
↑ this. I cancelled my ESO+ a month ago because of *** performance and absolute lack of understanding how things get done..0 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?Edited by dhboy123 on May 27, 2020 5:57PM1 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭I certainly hope that they're also able to somehow lock the antiquities system for those who didn't purchase Greymoor, just as they are locking access to the zone. They can keep the skill lines, but can't advance them or use the antiquarian's eye.
I'm not 100% positive, as I can't test this, but I think that for someone who had access to Summerset strictly through ESO+ and then dropped it, would no longer be able to access JC stations, even though they have the skill line.
And as far as the Elsweyr bug, at least it didn't happen at launch. Wasn't it a bug with the subsequent update? If I'm remembering correctly, at least by that point, the game had been on discount a couple times and many of us had been playing since it's launch.
This is a bit different, as players are getting free access at launch. I can see letting players keep their free necro and just locking access to the chapter, though I wish they would have just locked that character slot from being accessed. Thus they can keep it, but can't play it until they own Elsweyr.
So, I hope they figure out a way to lock the Antiquities system even if someone has the skill lines. As that's a pretty big selling point of the chapter (though, I suppose necro was for Elsweyr).
We'll see what happens. I'm disappointed, of course, that this happened in the first place, and equally disappointed at the players who feel that they're entitled to play what they didn't pay for due to this bug. But, if they get locked out of access to all chapter features and just get to keep what they already earned (including any antiquities and pre-order bonuses), then that's a good result.
Before I bought the expansion I had access to antiquities in full, personally myself I wouldn't mind if someone else has it and has fun with it.
Not really my personality to take away things from people to spite them, especially something as trivial as that.Edited by dhboy123 on May 27, 2020 6:01PM0 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?
A person who knowingly violates the ToS, and tries to run to the forums to silence the people calling it out is still breaking the rules. You are, in essence, stealing content, if you take advantage of this bug. I don't care how many posts you make on the forums about "but it's not my fault they gave it away for free", it's not going to magically change the point in the ToS where it says you aren't supposed to do that.4 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?
A person who knowingly violates the ToS, and tries to run to the forums to silence the people calling it out is still breaking the rules. You are, in essence, stealing content, if you take advantage of this bug. I don't care how many posts you make on the forums about "but it's not my fault they gave it away for free", it's not going to magically change the point in the ToS where it says you aren't supposed to do that.
That wasn't the point I was making, the analogy of comparing a theif who purposely goes out to try and steal from someone is COMPLETELY different to a person who has been given some content by mistake from the game provider because they screwed up.1 -
LucyferLightbringer✭✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?
A person who knowingly violates the ToS, and tries to run to the forums to silence the people calling it out is still breaking the rules. You are, in essence, stealing content, if you take advantage of this bug. I don't care how many posts you make on the forums about "but it's not my fault they gave it away for free", it's not going to magically change the point in the ToS where it says you aren't supposed to do that.
That wasn't the point I was making, the analogy of comparing a theif who purposely goes out to try and steal from someone is COMPLETELY different to a person who has been given some content by mistake from the game provider because they screwed up.
If you just got it unlocked and made no use of it sure you are fine. If you purposely traveled there, started consuming content you did not pay for, taking advantage of the bug you are a thief. ZOS left their wallet out in the open and thiefs are stealing from it.3 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?
A person who knowingly violates the ToS, and tries to run to the forums to silence the people calling it out is still breaking the rules. You are, in essence, stealing content, if you take advantage of this bug. I don't care how many posts you make on the forums about "but it's not my fault they gave it away for free", it's not going to magically change the point in the ToS where it says you aren't supposed to do that.
That wasn't the point I was making, the analogy of comparing a theif who purposely goes out to try and steal from someone is COMPLETELY different to a person who has been given some content by mistake from the game provider because they screwed up.
The ToS still says "do not exploit a bug". Is it your argument that one didn't know they didn't buy the content? I'm sure that'll hold up.1 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭It's nice to see people defend ZOS so vehemently when they are at a disadvantage yet not when they are also the ones who have had constant problems for the past few months with lag etc with no mention or update on it.
Quid pro quo.1 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Odd, if this happens in Destiny Bungie says that it's their bad so they just fix it without punishing those exploiting it. Different companies different mentalities I suppose.
It's not punishment to the one who is in the wrong. Wtf is wrong with you? That's like saying the criminal who stole someone elses wallet gets nothing and they just make wallets that are theft proof *facepalm*
That is a terrible analogy.
Uh, not it's not. If you do something wrong knowing that it is wrong and it gets corrected, you aren't being punished by having your special toy that you don't deserve taken away. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you
A person who purposely steals someones wallet is not the same as a game producer accidentally giving out content to people they were not supposed to have.
Surely you can see the difference?
A person who knowingly violates the ToS, and tries to run to the forums to silence the people calling it out is still breaking the rules. You are, in essence, stealing content, if you take advantage of this bug. I don't care how many posts you make on the forums about "but it's not my fault they gave it away for free", it's not going to magically change the point in the ToS where it says you aren't supposed to do that.
That wasn't the point I was making, the analogy of comparing a theif who purposely goes out to try and steal from someone is COMPLETELY different to a person who has been given some content by mistake from the game provider because they screwed up.
The ToS still says "do not exploit a bug". Is it your argument that one didn't know they didn't buy the content? I'm sure that'll hold up.
Saw ALOT of people asking if they got it with ESO+0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »SHUT UP MAN
Spoiling it for others
You know, anybody who exploits it now may receive harsh disciplinary actions. Like it was when people started to "invest" gold from excessive bids return.
I mean if you value your account, it is better not to touch it. (I don't own Greymoor so i don't care if people receive it for free, it's just friendly remainder given the story with trading bids extra money)
Like the people who got free Necromancers and nothing was done to them?
Give me a break, this is a foolish statement
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I just reminded about history with gold from trading bids, to prevent potential problems.0
