vMA and vDSA weapons should be upgraded to their Perfected versions. Do you agree?

techprince

The content is the same, people have already invested months farming it. This seems unfair to not to upgrade existing weapons.

D3N7157

No, weapons should not upgrade automatically.

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

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blkjag

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

I’d rather spend my time doing other content then going back to something I’ve already grinding countless hours on.

D3N7157

No, weapons should not upgrade automatically.

blkjag wrote: »

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

I’d rather spend my time doing other content then going back to something I’ve already grinding countless hours on.

Thank god zos decision on it is final then...

blkjag

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

blkjag wrote: »

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

I’d rather spend my time doing other content then going back to something I’ve already grinding countless hours on.

Thank god zos decision on it is final then...

Ummmm ok. You asked a question and I gave you a reasonable answer. Enjoy your runs. Hope ya have good rng.

Ragnaroek93

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Because I did already BEAT the content and did already earn my weapons. I've proven that I can beat the content, it's just about wasting my time at this point. Forcing people to regrind is so incredible disrespectful towards their freetime and I really hope that this will backfire.

deleted221106-002999

Ideally, I'd prefer updated/upgraded items obtained from updated/upgraded content.

MLGProPlayer

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

I'm not lazy. I prefer to do new content, not *** I've already run 100+ times.

Games are supposed to be fun. Repeating content from 5 years ago I've already run 100 times, another 100 times, is not fun. MMOs are supposed to offer us new content with updates.

MLGProPlayer

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Souterain wrote: »

Ideally, I'd prefer updated/upgraded items obtained from updated/upgraded content.

Bingo. Give us new content.

GrumpyDuckling

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

You can go run that all over again if you want. No reason to make everyone else have to do the same.

Growlspirit

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Are they freaking kidding???? I spent forever farming two inferno staves, I’ll cancel my account before I do that again.

Strider__Roshin

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Yeah I did this content on vet to get these weapons to begin with, then they remove my bonus weapon damage, and now they want me to farm for this same weapon again just to get my bonus back? What kind of nonsense is that?

The_Nightshade

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Because I did already BEAT the content and did already earn my weapons. I've proven that I can beat the content, it's just about wasting my time at this point. Forcing people to regrind is so incredible disrespectful towards their freetime and I really hope that this will backfire.

I totally agree with you. I don't see there's reasonable ground taking away existing hard working rewards from veteran players. just for satisfying new people's needs? This is totally unnecessary and very disrespectful.

ESO can just automatically upgrade them w/o disrespecting players effort and time.

Every single new patch requires people to regrind items over and over again? Trust me, lot of people will be eventually tired of every single patch and left from ESO.

I believe I've spent more than 1,000 USD since 2016. If I have to do the same time consuming grinding again, I'm going to save my money instead of wasting something that changes every time.

Seriously, reconsider vMA and vDSA weapon patch and very bad consequences how this will negatively affect ESO loyal players who have played for a long time.

I'm going to wait and see the next patch notes. I'll definitely request a full refund for ESO PLUS and Greymoor and get my money back in full no matter what it takes.

MLGProPlayer

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

The_Nightshade wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Because I did already BEAT the content and did already earn my weapons. I've proven that I can beat the content, it's just about wasting my time at this point. Forcing people to regrind is so incredible disrespectful towards their freetime and I really hope that this will backfire.

I totally agree with you. I don't see there's reasonable ground taking away existing hard working rewards from veteran players. just for satisfying new people's needs? This is totally unnecessary and very disrespectful.

ESO can just automatically upgrade them w/o disrespecting players effort and time.

Every single new patch requires people to regrind items over and over again? Trust me, lot of people will be eventually tired of every single patch and left from ESO.

I believe I've spent more than 1,000 USD since 2016. If I have to do the same time consuming grinding again, I'm going to save my money instead of wasting something that changes every time.

Seriously, reconsider vMA and vDSA weapon patch and very bad consequences how this will negatively affect ESO loyal players who have played for a long time.

I'm going to wait and see the next patch notes. I'll definitely request a full refund for ESO PLUS and Greymoor and get my money back in full no matter what it takes.

When WoW and FFXIV want you to grind for new gear, they release new content.

When ESO wants you to grind for new gear, they make you go back to content from 2015. ZOS is trying to keep those development costs down.

Kadoin

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Time is not free and something you never get back. Just remember that. Not everyone has all the time in the world to re-farm equipment that is essentially being reverted back to it's old state...

Sephyr

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

I don't want to farm Lamestrom Failrena again.

MartiniDaniels

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Good luck I'll just say I got bow on my first run, inferno staff on 3rd run, but I never saw DW dagger or axe in countless runs which I made...
When DW became meta for one patch, I made ~30 runs during orsinum event and best what I got was mace+sword and that was the only DW drop in a long time.
So sometimes you may get what you want in one pleasant evening.. and sometimes you won't get it after dozens of runs.

Katahdin

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Yes most of us agree.

Unfortunately the head dev doesnt so get ready to farm, farm and farm again

Kurat

techprince wrote: »

The content is the same, people have already invested months farming it. This seems unfair to not to upgrade existing weapons.

Why should they upgrade your weapons? You farmed the weapons that you have now, not the perfected ones. And you get to keep your weapons. I dont see the problem here. They give us opportunity to get perfected ones if you really wanna farm them. But the difference is so small, so why would you want to.

RogueShark

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Kurat wrote: »

techprince wrote: »

The content is the same, people have already invested months farming it. This seems unfair to not to upgrade existing weapons.

Why should they upgrade your weapons? You farmed the weapons that you have now, not the perfected ones. And you get to keep your weapons. I dont see the problem here. They give us opportunity to get perfected ones if you really wanna farm them. But the difference is so small, so why would you want to.

Except the weapons used to have bonus stats and those were taken away. So first they take away the bonus stats on weapons farmed in vet, and now they decide to return the bonus stats to those very same weapons... but basicslly nerf every would-be perfected weapon to the normal version.
Current weapons were farmed on vet. They should remain the vet equivalent.

Zer0_CooL

No, weapons should not upgrade automatically.

I want to see them suffer

MashmalloMan

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

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Kurat

Lets look at vMA inferno staff as example. Why do you need that little bit extra spell pen on back bar? Do you really expect any noticeable dps increase from it? Lmao

I think all this complaining has more to do with jealousy or saltiness that noobs can now get the weps from normal.

kind_hero

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Kurat wrote: »

Lets look at vMA inferno staff as example. Why do you need that little bit extra spell pen on back bar? Do you really expect any noticeable dps increase from it? Lmao

I think all this complaining has more to do with jealousy or saltiness that noobs can now get the weps from normal.

It's not jealousy, this is because we did the content on veteran, but we will get the rewards from normal.

In my case, I did not care about the Stormproof title much, even though it looks great on my sorc. I wanted the staff. Had the staff dropped from the normal arena, I wouldn't have done the veteran one. It was very hard, I almost broke my keyboard from frustration in the first dozens attempts. Yeah, in the end it was awesome, I defeated that ugly dude, but hey, the devs should not downgrade my rewards just because they have a new strategy. This happens in mmos all the time, you get a new level cap and your uber-gear is worthless or good for skins, but the difference is that with other games, you get new content to farm your next uber-gear. Here you don't, you just have to redo a 5 year old arena, which is not cool.

And if you ask me, no, they shouldn't give such a good weapon for a normal run, because where is the effort/commitment for behind getting these weapons? People are asking for some way to counter the bad rng, a token system or something in that regard would have been better than nerfing vMA, because that's what it is, a huge vMA nerf, you can get 99.5% the same weapon on normal...

idk

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

I am on the fence but leaning towards understanding why we will have to farm the weapons again. Since it is the same weapon as we currently have or any interaction of it before so I cannot justify firmly saying our current weapons should be upgraded to the new and improved addition.

Zelos

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

I wish we could acquire a currency for each run so after so many I could just pick the weapon I want ffs.

Env_t

No, weapons should not upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

totally agreed

MartiniDaniels

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

Zelos wrote: »

I wish we could acquire a currency for each run so after so many I could just pick the weapon I want ffs.

Yep, I'll have no problem to run it let's say 10 times again if it will guarantee receiving what I need (once per 10 times). But fighting with ZOS RNG is really exhaustive.

Derra

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

D3N7157 wrote: »

No they should not I finally may have the motivation to revisit some of the content I thought I’d never touch again, [snip]

Cause it´s not the content i want to do - rather it´s content i´m forced to do if i minmax.

Then it´s also nothing new. I´ve already beaten everything about that content. It´s just 100% recycled ***.

Tommy_The_Gun

Yes, weapons should upgrade automatically.

1. They were earned on veteran...

2. They once were "perfected"...
Initially, those weapons had additional bonuses, long before perfected gear was a thing, but they were nerfed.

3. It is very dumb thing ZOS is trying to do - making people re-grind old content to get something they once had...
It will only lead to people not doing content and grinding new gear, because.... players will know what ZOS can do. Nerfing things in your inventory, but not the ones that drop in the game world, without ANY re-compensation.

4. It is an equivalent of rising gear cap to CP 180 and not upgrading CP 160 gear players already had. Imaging ALL eso players making such a backlash. Forums would crash.

5. Disrespectful towards veteran, loyal player and time they have invested in learning the game & improving. Players who stayed since game launch, despite performance being worse & worse.

6. We know it is not a technical reason they can not do it... They are simply unwilling to...
When ZOS changed 2 handed weapons to count as 2 pcs set, they also changed vMA & vDA weapons from enchantments to sets. If you had for example a vMA shield... guess what ? ZOS was mailing you a missing part of the set via in-game mail so you would not have to re-grind it. I think it was somewhere around Clockwork City DLC.

7. Finally - this would be "OK" if it was new content...
Like you have for example Fungal Grotto I, and Fungal Grotto II. If they made vMA II and vDA II with different arenas & bosses ? Fine, no problem, new content. Except it is not. It is The same content, that was already done & cleared 10x times. New gear = new content.

Olupajmibanan

No, weapons should not upgrade automatically.

Because if they start tinkering with arena weapons again, they could and surely would break even more. It's better to have arena weapons unnoticed for now or do you want your Maelstrom Inferno end like Asylum Inferno in the decon pile? And be sure that ZoS does things like this without any hesitation.