PTS Update 26 - Feedback Thread for Housing & Furnishings

Octopuss

This is not related to the new housing, but I still can't help but repeat:
- FIX LIGHT SOURCES SHINING THROUGH FLOORS
- FIX (ADJUST) LIGHT SOURCES NOT TO BE SO DIM THEY'RE USELESS

Universe

What are your general thoughts on new houses?
Proudspire Manor:
This house is located in a central location and it's easy to access.
I like the fact that it looks a bit similar to the Bethesda Softworks Skyrim's Proudspire Manor.
Though it is a bit claustrophobic in the house, there is not enough light from outside, i.e there needs to be more windows.
Also, I would like it more if you will build a basement and a balcony(if it is appropriate).

Bastion Sanguinaris:
It is possible to jump over the fences into the lava.
There should be stronger barriers(unless you wanted players to reach forbidden places).
This place is huge and I really liked the Underworld appearance both inside and outside...great job
I managed to get inside the house by placing a platform to get to the front door.
I will appreciate it if you could add a suitable higher place for placing a throne or two in the great hall.

Do you have any other general feedback?
Please make both Bastion Sanguinaris and Proudspire Manor houses available for gold too.
Proudspire Manor could be priced at 1 million gold and Bastion Sanguinaris can be priced at 5 million gold.

RedReign

What are your general thoughts on new houses?

+) Job well done. Bastion is far too large to decorate with the furnishing limit in place but Proudspire is magnificent.

What do you think of the new furnishings?

+) I like the furniture, but the fact that the new high end stuff still looks worn down is a bit bothersome, the antiquity based furnishings however are a thing of beauty. I do find it concerning that we didn't get any new structural items this time as town building is my personal favorite thing about housing in ESO.

This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?

+) Yes, in fact the new UI set up is clearer than it's ever been. Well done.

Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?

+) None at all.

Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?

Yes, I will still use EHT when decorating but I have the feeling that I'll be forced to use the addon far less often now.

Do you have any other general feedback?


Please, pleeaase remove the arbitrary item limit, or at least increase it drastically. I've even had a member of the housing development team explain to me that the limit should/could be much higher with no dip in performance so it's very confusing as to why it isn't. You keep giving us these amazing collectible furnishings and huge houses and then for no obvious reason leave us unable to decorate them to their full potential.

OmniDo

Nice to see the efforts of @ZOS_Cardinal finally making it into the live game after so many hundreds of hours of work with "Rooms to go".

All the aforementioned stated with regard to the Bastion are probably known issues, so I won't repeat them here.
Proudspire instantly reminded me of Oblivion and Skyrim. Well done with this home.

General Feedback for Bastion:

1. The interior mini-moat of blood that is barely visible beyond the inside-fencing would almost be completely missed if not for the urge to inspect the walls up close. Lighting adjustments would be recommended. Also, where is this blood coming from?
2. Additional structural furnishings of the "vampire" type would be nice, allowing more room to expand and add on to the already large home's exterior, or re-purpose said exteriors.
3. While I can appreciate the decidedly Vlad-Tepes-Dracula style "electric" lights, nothing about them seems specifically "vampire" to me, beyond the fact that theyre named that way. I'd presume vampires love candlelight, even if fire is a fear.

Nebthet78

[*] What are your general thoughts on new houses?

I really like Proudspire. It has 3 levels and a good amount of room to work with. I like the little patio outside too. It does however need a few more fireplaces, or we at least need the option to buy more that fit this style of home. I especially like the fact I can buy this home for gold. $1,050,000 to be exact.

Bastion Sang, it's interesting with some nice architecture, but it's a huge house with an item limit that will never be able to fill it. I like all the different rooms, even the one at the very top.



[*] What do you think of the new furnishings?

The new furnishings are good. I like the fact that the vampire ones can easily be mixed and matched with the Alinor furnishings.

I was also happy to see that there was finally an animal trough with FILLED WATER in it.

Disappointed there aren't any purchaseable tables yet. Though I do see in the Datamine that there is going to be a house pack for Crowns where there will be a small single horse stable that can be purchased.... Hopefully this means we can buy them separately as well.


[*] Do you have any other general feedback?

Some of the books, on the shelves that have a backing are backwards, which makes no sense. I can understand it on the bookshelves with no backing, but the ones with it, rather bother me for some reason.

Disappointed that we don't have any additional clutter items. veggies in a grouping, cups and dishes in a grouping.

Would also like to see some different grilling stations and wood burning cooking stoves, like the one in the basement of the Blue Palace.

I really like the fact there are a lot more paintings with this update.. However, I hope that we can get these in game and not just through the crown store and easily too. The tryptic drop rate in Morrowind is abysmal, and I want to see something much better with Greymoor.

Nebthet78

RedReign wrote: »

Please, pleeaase remove the arbitrary item limit, or at least increase it drastically. I've even had a member of the housing development team explain to me that the limit should/could be much higher with no dip in performance so it's very confusing as to why it isn't. You keep giving us these amazing collectible furnishings and huge houses and then for no obvious reason leave us unable to decorate them to their full potential.

Really?!? Because on the Housing area of the forums, they have basically told us that they CAN'T increase the item limit WITHOUT affecting performance.

Olauron

Universe wrote: »

Do you have any other general feedback?
Please make both Bastion Sanguinaris and Proudspire Manor houses available for gold too.
Proudspire Manor could be priced at 1 million gold and Bastion Sanguinaris can be priced at 5 million gold.

Proudspire Manor is available:

Sir Tanks a lot

KMarble wrote: »

First impressions:

- Vampire mansion: aside from the glitch that only grants access to the interior if you're a vampire lord and use your wings to fly up there (jk), the interior of the house is very well done. It's dark and oppressive, despite the high ceilings, and I left the house with the impression I hadn't seen everything.

The views are gorgeous, but still doesn't entice me to buy it. For one, it isn't my style, but it's also huge and I prefer smaller houses.

- Proudspire: lovely interior, very bright and I like the architecture (as and aside, this is the only Elder Scrolls game I've ever played). For me, the views from the patio looked like they hadn't rendered completely.

Thank you for making it a (good) house we can buy with gold!

- Furnishings: I just checked the ones that come with the houses and the ones available on the furnishing vendors. I like what I've seen so far and I can already see uses for many of them.

I really like that you guys introduced another wine rack with bottles already in it, but I'd expect that a self-respecting Nord would have more bottles in their wine racks.

- Housing editor: I haven't had time to play with it yet, but the precision placement is a very welcomed tool. The arrows that appear when in editing mode isn't something I care for, though. They are redundant* and obscure my view when trying to place furnishings.

* I still remember how frustrating it was to figure out the housing editor, and I don't think that adding arrows around the furnishing will help with that. It might be a better idea to add a text box with instructions when we hover over the already existing icons on the bottom of the screen.

IMO, those arrows just clutter the screen (imagine trying to work with that in first mode and placing small items) and might lead people who are new to housing into thinking they can click on those arrows to move stuff.

But in precision edit now you can actually click and drag the arrows to move or rotate the furniture. Use cursor mode and it will work. It’s game changingly awesome.

Vicarra

I absolutely adore Proudspire Manor, and I will be getting my grubby mitts on it asap when this goes live. Every part of the house is wonderful, and I have zero complaints about it at all (very rare for me). Everything about it makes sense, and I get all the nostalgias from those beautiful floors. The Inn room is very cosy and has a nice colouring to it, and I like the placement.

I have not been to Blackreach or the other new house.

Furnishing patterns, I haven't been able to farm yet to give my impressions on the drop rates.

I like the furnishings in general, very much. However, I would just note that the colour of the rough Solitude furniture is very similar in colour to the walls in Proudspire Manor, which makes it hard to see (in the furnished CS version) some of the larger furniture items against the wall backdrop.

The furnishings from Antiquities - I am very, very, VERY happy with these. The only issue is that Morwha's Blessing is unfinished, and the two audible objects don't make any noise. Otherwise....you've really outdone yourselves this time.

RedReign

Nebthet78 wrote: »

RedReign wrote: »

Please, pleeaase remove the arbitrary item limit, or at least increase it drastically. I've even had a member of the housing development team explain to me that the limit should/could be much higher with no dip in performance so it's very confusing as to why it isn't. You keep giving us these amazing collectible furnishings and huge houses and then for no obvious reason leave us unable to decorate them to their full potential.

Really?!? Because on the Housing area of the forums, they have basically told us that they CAN'T increase the item limit WITHOUT affecting performance.

I know, but it's just sort of a line they give when asked. The performance dip for even doubling the item limit is so negligible that even the lowest end of machines would have no issue handling it. I'm sure they have a private reason for keeping in place, but it was demonstrated to me to definitely not be one of performance.

Vicarra wrote: »

I absolutely adore Proudspire Manor, and I will be getting my grubby mitts on it asap when this goes live. Every part of the house is wonderful, and I have zero complaints about it at all (very rare for me). Everything about it makes sense, and I get all the nostalgias from those beautiful floors.

I also just want to share in the adoration of Proudspire Manor, it is beautiful. Everything one would want in housing.

Aliyavana

Can we please have a manor sized dwemer home? Blackreach is the perfect place for one

Caelc

Aliyavana wrote: »

Can we please have a manor sized dwemer home? Blackreach is the perfect place for one

not the place to ask

MrGraves

Earrindo wrote: »

What are your general thoughts on new houses?

I found the layout of Proudspire to be tight, cramped, and difficult to navigate, and that is in first person! I can only imagine the camera bouncing in third person vs the ceiling.

That's actually one thing I liked about proudspire personally, Though again not a huge fan of the houses like it and lucky cat where the outside is just fenced in stone. I do like the structured houses, Though I can see how it won't be fit for everyone or everything you might want to do with it it helps the flow of the house with decorating and so you can place what you want without the house looking too barren and reaching the item limit. It looks a little more like an actual house to me. I think in that regard ZoS is taking a step in the right direction with housing
. However there seems to be alot of houses that follow the same plan more or less. The giant mansions and then a structured home (alinor townhouse, lucky cat's landing, proudspire) without much room to do anything but interior design. Vvardenfell I think mostly got it right with the houses having yards, structure but not too claustrophobic. (ald velothi, amaya lake lodge) I think there isn't alot of variety with the Greymoor housing, of course there's only 2 and an inn room to choose from but either you have a vampire mansion in blackreach or a rich noble house in solitude, while the majority of skyrims inhabitants are more, Farmers and hunters. Skyrim is mostly wilderness so townhouses don't make as much sense to highlight IMO. I think it's a good idea to have one but generally a chapter should probably have 1 mansion, 1 larger home, like the townhouses and such, and another medium/large home that's more on the rustic/commoner side of things.

for those wanting 'guild hall' type large houses I think the thanes hall would have worked well.

Jaeysa

What are your general thoughts on new houses?
I liked the Proudspire Manor, especially since it looks like it can be bought with gold.
No thoughts on the other at the moment since it seems to be bugged.

What do you think of the new furnishings?
Pretty, none that were low-res but not impressed at the lack of structure furnishings. I was really hoping there would be new walls or stares or the like.

This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?
Yes
Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?
No, though I only did a little with it.
Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?
Much! I might be able to disable EHT some of the time.
Do you have any other general feedback?
Moar structure furnishings please!

Hymzir

So... I see you copied the interior layout of Proudspire pretty much straight from Skyrim. With the omission of only one wall, and no kids quarter available. (And the side room in the basement is shifted one block.) I suppose I understand why you did it, it's the nostalgia thing. Gotta drive them sales of Proudspire with all you got.

The issue I have with this, is that Skyrim Proudspire interior has absolutely nothing in common with the exterior. I've spent an inordinate amount of time fixing it in my own custom Skyrim build, and am not happy to see all that BS get repeated in ESO. Thus proudspire is a no go, as far as I am concerned. I don't wanna deal with the mismatching interior and exterior in this game too. Though bonus points for the addition of the patio. Wish some of the base game town houses had a similar deal.

Some extra points are lost to the fact, that while the interiors is basically the same, the stone work is totally different. So that means, that Proudspire was rebuild with different stone blocks at some point, and not changed in the process at all. If you've never played Skyrim, I suppose it won't bother you, but to me it looks strikingly odd. If you are gonna copy stuff for nostalgias sake, then copy it properly.

While this is not strictly housing related, it is sortta related to the above point - i.e. most interior layouts in Solitude are also copied straight from Skyrim. Again, I get it - nostalgia for the win. However, I would've liked to have seen some variation in there. This is, after all, 1000 years before, and things do change with time. Heck, even most of the stores are in the exact spots they are 1000 years later, just with different names. I get that Nords value tradition, but come-on!

To further aggravate things, almost all interiors in Skyrim Solitude, and now ESO Solitude, have nothing in common with their exteriors. When will you people learn, that we players do in fact notice these things, and that they do matter to a meaningful portion of us.

So as far as the houses are concerned, I'll get the inn room as a pit stop, and skip Proudspire for the aforementioned reasons, even though it is my favorite home in Skyrim. As for the Vampire place... Well, it's borked, so can't say much about it, except that it is a Vampire place and is in Blakcreach (and I hate the bright, bustling, and crowded interpretation ESO gives to that location) and thus it holds about tad below zero interest as far as I am concerned.

If you get it fixed, I'll go check it out again and post further ruminations later, if I see something worth posting about. While I won't buy it, or even accept it for free, am sure there are others who like it just fine. Really, it just isn't for me, in any sense of the word.

Furnishings... A mixed batch to be honest. The Solitude common pieces are okay. Rustic nordic style is fine, and they contain several bits that I can find a use here and there. Like the log park chair type a thing... the Solitude Pew Sturdy types. There is a place waiting for the shorter one in one of my homes right now.

On the whole though, in my mind at least, they are just variations on similar bits already available. They are a tad different form common nord pieces, but not enough for that difference to be meaningful. You could've just used standard Nord pieces for the common stuff, maybe round up the selection here and there with new bits, and used that development time for something more interesting.

The noble and ornate Solitude pieces are, for the most part, rubbish. They are ugly, have odd proportions and look really low quality, and old and beat up. I get it that you are looking for that medieval fantasy aesthetic, but you know, stuff people did in the medieval period did not look like ***. People back then knew how to do really nice and ornate wood furniture with splendid carvings, and they did things with care and precision.

The reasons why medieval furniture looks like its banged up and hundred of years old, is because it is banged up and hundreds of years old!They did not look like they do today when they were new!! 95% of those purple Solitude things are garbage as far as I am concerned. If for some weird reason I ended up buying Proudspire manor, I'd decorate it with Summerset furniture, 'cause that stuff looks medieval and gothic and like it was made by a compentent carpenter.

Granted, there are some nice bits in the mix, like the round metal mirror, a couple of really striking trunks, cool knick knacks, and a selection of quite nice carpets. But on the whole, Solitude stuff is a let down. And furthermore, things are made even worse by the omission of crucial bits - there is a distinct lack of new structural elements. No walls, no stairs, no doorways, no fireplaces, or floors for that matter. (And no planters either, the thing that is probably the most asked for in all the "please add stuff" threads.) There's basically nothing new in the structural sections, except for the pair of stick fences, and that simply is not okay. Also, there are no Solitude tea tables, no dividers, or tapestries. The last striking as fairly odd, since there aren't that many Nordic tapestries to begin with,

I get a distinct feeling, that most of your furnishing development resources were funneled elsewhere, hopefully to the 50+ antiquity pieces. At least going by their names, they sound very promising. I really hope they are spectacular enough to make up for the distinct feeling of meh that emanates from the Solitude themed stuffed.

Now, as for the vampire stuff... It's a lot better than the Solitude stuff. At least it looks like it was made by a competent carpenter. Wish those Solitude upper class things looked as good as some of these do. Way too much spiky bits on the chairs though, but there are some pretty nice looking tables and cabinets that I plan to get for myself. They will serve as an excellent alternative for Summerset gothic stuff, and give houses using those bits a bit of variance and alternatives. Too bad it's prolly gonna be a PITA to farm.

Didn't fiddle too much with the precision mode, but it does look like a good addition. I'm used to Housing Tools by now, so can't really say if this is better or not. It's a different interface and thus don''t know if my issues are from clunky design or the fact that am used to a different way of doing things. It is definitely an improvement to those who do not use Essential Housing Tools, that much is clear.

And finally, the inclusion of non landscape paintings is a big plus. There are even some portraits! Too bad they're all of ugly dudes I would never hang on my walls. How about some portraits of some pretty ladies? Pretty gents too, since the ones available are kinda... Let's call it an acquired taste and leave it at that. But those memento mori sortta paintings are a real nice addition.

SeaGtGruff

Does anyone know where Snowmelt Suite is going to be? I'm assuming that's going to be the free "room at the inn" housing for characters starting out in Western Skyrim. I haven't tried creating a new character and playing through the new tutorial yet, so forgive me if the location of Snowmelt Suite is obvious. I was too busy running around questing to hunt for it, and anyway I didn't even know of its existence until I saw it in the thread about all of the datamined stuff.

Blacknight841

The house icons vanished from the maps

Universe

Olauron wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

Do you have any other general feedback?
Please make both Bastion Sanguinaris and Proudspire Manor houses available for gold too.
Proudspire Manor could be priced at 1 million gold and Bastion Sanguinaris can be priced at 5 million gold.

Proudspire Manor is available:

Thanks for clarifying.
I did a tour in the house through the preview option before I wrote my feedback and I didn't see it back then.
Interestingly enough, it is almost exactly like what I have suggested...1M gold, maybe they changed it after my feedback via an hotfix

MrGraves

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Does anyone know where Snowmelt Suite is going to be? I'm assuming that's going to be the free "room at the inn" housing for characters starting out in Western Skyrim. I haven't tried creating a new character and playing through the new tutorial yet, so forgive me if the location of Snowmelt Suite is obvious. I was too busy running around questing to hunt for it, and anyway I didn't even know of its existence until I saw it in the thread about all of the datamined stuff.

It's in the Solitude Inn. And it is the free inn room.

Sir Tanks a lot

What are your general thoughts on new houses?
The new castle is gigantic. I was running around in it for a few hours last night finding all of the nooks and secret spots.

What do you think of the new furnishings?
Many of the new furnishings that we can get by finding antiquities look really nice. I have seen a number of daedric and I think ayleid type items that look incredible.

This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?
Yes it was easy to pick up and intuitive.

Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?
Not in the couple of hours I was decorating with it.

Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?
Absolutely. The ability to move around an item while placing it is invaluable. It also seems to actually turn items correctly or at least it seemed that way with that redguard vessel and even with those replica dream crystals. That will be incredibly helpful.

Do you have any other general feedback?
This new edit tool is going to be game changing. I mentioned this before but for anyone who has not seen it yet you can actually use the mouse to move and turn items. It reminds me of WildStar. If you have not tried it yet I really would suggest that you do and give your feedback. Features like these are really needed. We should let ZOS know when we like the ones that they give us.

SeaGtGruff

Thank you, @MrGraves!

thegreatme

What are your general thoughts on new houses?
Proudspire Manor:
Its almost exact to the Proudspire Manor from Skyrim if I remember correctly. Not exactly a bad thing, though it makes the space feel somewhat cramped. Its workable, though. I am very happy to see that it will go up for gold, but 1 million? I hope that's just a stand-in price, as I would have pegged it closer to 300k-500k. Assuming of course it goes up for gold at all, but its been a long time since we've seen anything but inn rooms go up for gold, so I would not be surprised if its a crown-only house once live hits.
I do love the knotted scroll-work carved into a lot of the architectural pillars quite a great deal, and it goes well with the Noble versions of the Solitude furnishings. The floors on the lowest and middle levels I'm not a huge fan of, but I can easily cover them with large carpets to make them more to my liking and to good visual effect going with dark carpets to compliment the light walls. I do like it, I just don't know that I like it for 1 million gold. It feels far too small and underwhelming for that price tag when compared with much bigger houses that go for just as much.

Bastion Sanguinaris:
Very lovely (but big) house that hits all the gothic points I feel that homes like Wraithhome failed to hit the mark on, both style-wise and layout wise, though with a much darker atmosphere than that of Alinor and all its shiny white architecture. I love every inch of this house (minus the bugged out entrance of course), I really do. Its one of the only houses I'm seriously considering buying from the store (since its not going to go for gold, as not much does anymore) even though I won't be using it for any vampiric reasons.
One thing I would like to note however is the same issue that has been brought up time and again. The scale of this house flat out does not have the furnishing slots it needs for this gargantuan space we're being given, not even with ESO plus. This is a house that requires a lot of huge furnishings and minimalism to actually fill it up and make it not seem empty, and for what some people want to do with it that's going to be impossible to do, similarly to houses like the Psijic Manor, Aldmeri Grotto, Pariah's Pinnacle. These houses really need higher limits, and this one just seems like the biggest house with the best flexibility we've gotten in a very, very long time. The flexibility for where you can build in this house is GREAT, we just need the slots to reasonably work with that, like 1,000 furnishing slots, which in all honestly would probably still be underwhelming but much better than what we have to work with now.
Otherwise everything about this house is sublime for my dark and mysterious characters and I can't wait to get my hands on it, which is rare because I pretty much never buy crown store houses.




What do you think of the new furnishings?
Solitude Plain Furnishings:
Admittedly I am not a fan. I understand WHY these were introduced, with Eastern and Western Skyrim being separate, but we already have so many bland, boring nord styles. Did we need more? Some things are nice, like the log wood benches, because they're unique to what we already have, but a lot of the larger furnishings like the dressers, wardrobes, chairs etc just feel very lackluster. I'm sure someone likes them, but they're not for me.

Solitude Noble Furnishings:
These? I adore these. I am in love!! These are more like the norse-esque type furnishings I expected and hoped for all along when I think of Nords and never got in Eastern Skyrim. I love the carved knot-work on both buildings and furnishings in this chapter. I love the colors and styles. I love the carved wolf heads. And FINALLY we have beds with fur pelts and shaggy fleece blankets added to them and fur pelt throw rugs!
And seven new book shelf styles? Both filled and empty? (but most importantly filled). Truly, I am in love.
My one and only major complaint (and surprise) was that it doesn't appear we will be getting the fur-covered versions of chairs found in various parts of Solitude, and I REALLY think we need them and know several people who already want them.




Vampire Furnishings:
I like these. Not as much as Solitude Noble furnishings however. The highlight for me were some of the rugs and the hanging cabinets. I did notice that the vampire lights appear to have GREAT range and brightness for the spaces they go in compared to a lot of other lighting, and will probably help a lot of people out who want bright homes without buying daedric braziers for everything. Mainly I appreciate the smaller details of patterns carved into much of the furniture than anything, especially that of the chairs, pews, and cabinets. The dividers are especially lovely.
I think my biggest complaint is the vampiric wine racks being completely empty. When you're talking about such an overwhelmingly massive house such as the Bastion Sanguinaris, do we really need to be made to suffer through the pain of something like stocking the wine shelf furnishing with tiny bottles? The nords were able to have a filled wine shelf but not the vampires? I would like to see a stocked version of this furnishing, if I'm honest.

Food and paintings:
I love all of them. I really do. You guys came out swinging hard on both of these and I'm purely delighted.




Do you have any other general feedback?
No "Lunar Hall" type house?
I'll admit, this one disappoints me a bit. Maybe I've just been spoiled by the free Psijic house and Lunar Hall, but I thought these were great models. The Psijic house event was what convinced me to buy Summerset at all. The Lunar Hall house is what had me encourage others to buy Elsweyr. Yes, we the players know these were gimmicks to sell more copies of the game. For a lot of us, it worked. I can only guess the hype behind Skyrim nostalgia rendered such gimmicks unneeded this time, or maybe at least gave the impression it was unneeded, but it would have been a nice thing to have rather than a disappointment to see its a practice that's been since dropped. Its probably too late for that now in this main chapter, but perhaps will see this later down the line with Q4? This one can hope so.

Chaos2088

What are your general thoughts on new houses?
-The new houses are amazing. I dont normally buy the big ones as the item slots need to be upped to fill them. But the vampire castle......very very tempting. Textures need be fixed before going to live. (thats a given, not really needed to be said but hey ***)

What do you think of the new furnishings?
-Love the new/updtated nord style, rustic and the nobel lot. vampire style is awesome.

This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
-Not fully explored it yet, but this will come in hand when trying to build houses from the start in the empty lots.

Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?
-Seem easy enough

Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?
-No

Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?
-Yes, making sure things ahve no gaps to the details were interesting, but been used to doing that before. So...

Do you have any other general feedback?
-Beating a dead horse, but the big houses need more item slots, you have these castles and so much potential to do stuff with but are limted and have to that into consideration, which squashs creative aspects and makes me avoid getting bigger houses.

Spell-Slinger

• What are your general thoughts on new houses?
  I like Proudspire Manor. Looks nice, lots of rooms, I'm sure I could do something with that. The vampire house is just too ludicrously large to furnish properly, which is a complete dealbreaker for me.
• What do you think of the new furnishings?
  Overall pretty good, though the lack of structural items is devastating. I was looking forward to gray walls that'd blend in better with existing houses, and there's just... nothing? Completely unforgivable imo, I hope more gets added before it goes live.
• This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
  • Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?
    Very intuitive, though I would like the option to swap between normal editing and precision editing at the press of a button, without having to go back and forth and select the item again every time. That would make it more fluid for me.
  • Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?
    So far it seems to be working fine.
  • Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?
  I love the straightening function in particular, it made it WAY easier to do what I want. Thumbs up.
• Do you have any other general feedback?
  More structural items please. I need more walls, stairs, floors, roofs, fireplaces, ladders, fences, etc. And doors/gates like the Elsweyr gate, in different sizes, would be a HUGE thing.

Rhonya

New Houses

• Snowmelt Suite:
  I like this a lot, it's an okay size and looks pretty. I plan to buy this.
  
• Proudspire Manor:
  I love it! Great size, great location, very pretty, nice rooms, love the outside area. I plan to buy this too.
  
• Bastion Sanguinaris:
  Too big. Just way too big for 700 items. Very uncomfortable and awkward to navigate, confusing layout. I loved the general look of it, but I will not buy it, because of its size.

Do we not get another quest-unlockable house this time, like the Hall of the Lunar Champion? That's very sad, I really loved that concept and it felt good to actually work for a house than just to buy it.
Also, can we please have a medium sized Nord house too? I have seen pretty npc houses like the Jarls place in Morthal that I would love to have as a house for my characters.

New Furnishings

• Solitude Style
  I love them. They are simple yet pretty, they fit in, there's good variation. I especially love the book cases (with books in them, yay!) and the carpets, so many pretty carpets! The coffee tables are really nice as well. I just find the beds a bit lacking, they're... hmm... boring?
  
• Vampire Style
  I really like these too. They have a good look to them, and they also look nice combined with the Solitude stuff. The new pictures are really nice.
  
• Achievement Furnishings
  Those I sadly found extremely underwhelming. I liked the doll and the throne. But the rest was just banners and giant cheese... I am not a fan.
  
• Antiquities Furnishings
  Sadly there's no preview. I hope this gets added in the future. From what I could tell from the little images though, these seemed very nice and I can't wait to hunt for them.

I'd also like some fireplaces and pillows. And mushrooms. Glowy mushrooms please.

Precision Editing mode

Thank you. That's all I gotta say about this. Love it!

NocturnalRequiem

• What are your general thoughts on new houses?
• The Inn Room is nice for a small apartment, and is about what I expected.
• The Proudspire Manor made me nostalgic, It may not be exact to TES: V but we were already told that things change
  over time and may be a little different. I was amazed at the stonework in Solitude. It gives the blue keep an element I
  didn't expect.
• The Vampire Bastion is the reason I jumped on the PTS to test. It is like the Devs at ZOS finally heard my prayers . I love the Gothic Architecture! I know there are elements missing in this patch but I am hoping that there is at least a basement in which to keep my partially finished thralls from wondering about. I had no trouble furnishing this place with what I had on hand from the live server, and actually had slots left over for antiquities. I love the Idea of hidden rooms and trap doors that can easily be covered; for rooms that others may not wish to use, depending on how they allocate their furnishings.
• What do you think of the new furnishings?
  I love the new food Items and the new vampire furnishing style! I don't feel that the Redwood used for the vampire
  furnishings is not dark enough to really stand apart from the walls of the bastion though I was hoping for more of a
  mahogany or ebony wood. I hope that there are more vampire furnishings that will be added before going live.
  There are no bathing goods (nords may not bathe but vampires do!), structures, shiny bobbles, cushy caskets, etc. Mainly just standard furniture at this point. While exploring Black Reach I found many alchemical, vampiric, undercroft, and structural Items used in the Greymoor Castle and Dwarven Ruins overland decoration that would make great additions to my vampire lair, hopefully that should be easy to add since the assets are already in use.
• This update adds a new way to move furnishings, to make it easier to position furnishings exactly where you want them. If you tried out the new Precision Editing mode:
  • Was it clear how to manipulate furnishings in this mode?
    Yes using this feature was quite comprehensive.
  • Did you encounter any issues with Precision Editing?
    I did run into issues where items were not sliding on ground level.
  • Did it make it easier for you to decorate the way you wanted to?
    This feature definitely made my life a lot easier while building on the PTS
• Do you have any other general feedback?
• Speaking of assets in game that are not furnishings, I was honestly hoping that Skyrim would bring with it Weapon and Armor furnishings as well as racks or stands for housing(tying new ones into the outfit stations would be cool, like the attunable stations at crafting locations, where you can take your armor and weapon stands to an outfit station and fill them to your specific taste). I became jealous when exploring the blue keep because they are used there but I cannot have them... or do I need to usurp the High Kings and and rob the powerful of theirs?
• On another note , I would like to suggest a separate Furnishing and achievement vendor in Dusktown for separate Black Reach themed items. I feel that the Western Skyrim Vendors are focused just on that and have no knowledge of the spoils that may be below their feet.
• Lastly, I would like to suggest adding new crafting station styles. We haven't seen a new one since the Clockwork
  themed Stations in the crown store tab. (I feel that placing stations that look like they're made from driftwood into my
  vampiric home may cause other clans that come to visit to sneer at my lack of taste).
• Overall I am Excited to see what else Greymoor has to offer and am very excited about the future housing in ESO. I think you all have done a wonderful job on Greymoor!

Blacknight841

NocturnalRequiem wrote: »

[*] Lastly, I would like to suggest adding new crafting station styles. We haven't seen a new one since the Clockwork
themed Stations in the crown store tab. (I feel that placing stations that look like they're made from driftwood into my
vampiric home may cause other clans that come to visit to sneer at my lack of taste).
]

I would be happy with just a clockwork jewelry crafting station so that it will complete the set.

idk

Bastion Sanguinaris is not showing up in my list of houses when I look for it in the map menu tab for houses. I purchased it and it is not in the list of purchased or unpurchased homes.

I can only enter it via collections.

idk

Adding to my previous post.

Bastion Sanguinaris has multiple furnishings in the first main area that are floating. This includes the door to the rest of the house even though that is not a furnishing. It really seems like someone pressed the wrong button somewhere and moved the floor.

After going through the door, in the main area of this second area there is a large table with a number of chairs around it. I could not sit in the chairs which seems like a mistake.

Of note for all of housing in the game, beds need to be functional. They seem like a waste of space as they are.

Sturmfaenger

Could you please consider to make the arrows much more slender than this? Ideally to the slim size they had before when they were still circles? That would be very much apprechiated - as you can see in the Screenshot, those fat red and blue arrows obscure a lot of sight - especially with very small objects that require precise positioning.



I don't have any problem with them being arrows, but they are too huge in size and too distracting with their colors that way. That's not necessary. Can they please be narrow arrows?

I need to concentrate on positioning the item, and how the item looks in combination with the position they shall fit in. I need to see more precisely than fat red and blue please.