Performance is unacceptable

Long_Distance

TheFM wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.

They don't care. There'll be a million left who'll buy costumes, houses and pets :-(

Mitrenga

iCaliban wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

What a great idea! Im sure that will fix the massive ability delay, unresponsive break free, horrible targeting issues, ghost casts found in... Bgs, duels, even pve.

This isnt a cyrodil complaint.

Many would sue the company for false advertisement. However, ZOS can intentionally mess the PvP up, hypothetically speaking ofcourse.

ZarkingFrued

https://youtu.be/Gx2J9KSJ-lA Cyro delay video for any developers interested

Chaos2088

Also......The fact most of us dread when an update is coming speaks volumes...

TheFM

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.

They don't care. There'll be a million left who'll buy costumes, houses and pets :-(

They dont have a million active players. There might millions of accounts, but thats not the same as millions of active players, and I do in fact buy a lot of costumes, =P

Long_Distance

TheFM wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.

They don't care. There'll be a million left who'll buy costumes, houses and pets :-(

They dont have a million active players. There might millions of accounts, but thats not the same as millions of active players, and I do in fact buy a lot of costumes, =P

You shouldn't!

jadarock

Starlock wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

I guess it's different on other platforms, but it's pretty much fine on xbox and definitely within the realm of "acceptable." Some things have gotten better, some things have gotten worse.

What? I wish I had your playing experience. I cant fight a fellow guildie who plays on another alliance without cc break failing ulti not firing skills being greyed out or hell 5 presses for rally or cloak and all to no avail....
The performance has been terrible since right after mayhem. Only one home xbox na 100up 100down wired cleared all data reset my net it's not me its definitely on zos's end

As a heads up, I don't PvP. There's a number of reasons for that, but one of them is directly related to the topic at hand. Even if I cared about PvP for this game - which I don't - my experiences with it have had such abysmal gameplay performance that I can hardly believe anyone actually plays it at all. I'm not a competitive gamer as a general rule, but when my gameplay experience involves constantly lagging and dying out of nowhere and nothing I saw coming, well... PvP in this game is flat out garbage outside of duels, perhaps. I don't know why any of you bother even attempting it, honestly. It's easily the worst PvP I have ever seen in any game.

I started playing pvp in Haderus 2016 and have been hooked ever since (probably have adrenal fatigue after all the hours) So Imagine telling a strict pvper cyrodiils garbage lolz
Hopefully zos can figure this thing out soon I'd hate to see their amazing game die like this....

Jjitsuboy98

This game has turned into a failure. I don’t understand why they can’t fix the performance. The lag was always bad. But now it’s INSANE. Especially with the crashes added in. Time to find another game I guess.

iCaliban

jadarock wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

I guess it's different on other platforms, but it's pretty much fine on xbox and definitely within the realm of "acceptable." Some things have gotten better, some things have gotten worse.

What? I wish I had your playing experience. I cant fight a fellow guildie who plays on another alliance without cc break failing ulti not firing skills being greyed out or hell 5 presses for rally or cloak and all to no avail....
The performance has been terrible since right after mayhem. Only one home xbox na 100up 100down wired cleared all data reset my net it's not me its definitely on zos's end

As a heads up, I don't PvP. There's a number of reasons for that, but one of them is directly related to the topic at hand. Even if I cared about PvP for this game - which I don't - my experiences with it have had such abysmal gameplay performance that I can hardly believe anyone actually plays it at all. I'm not a competitive gamer as a general rule, but when my gameplay experience involves constantly lagging and dying out of nowhere and nothing I saw coming, well... PvP in this game is flat out garbage outside of duels, perhaps. I don't know why any of you bother even attempting it, honestly. It's easily the worst PvP I have ever seen in any game.

I started playing pvp in Haderus 2016 and have been hooked ever since (probably have adrenal fatigue after all the hours) So Imagine telling a strict pvper cyrodiils garbage lolz
Hopefully zos can figure this thing out soon I'd hate to see their amazing game die like this....

Great game poorly managed. 100% agree

RedGirl41

Ps4 has been dealing with game crashes since November. I’ll say it again for the people in the back.... November. We FINALLY got a terrible patch first of feb and now the skill delay is so terrible it’s pointless to even pvp. That’s been a month for us now. Imagine?

Starlock

jadarock wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

I guess it's different on other platforms, but it's pretty much fine on xbox and definitely within the realm of "acceptable." Some things have gotten better, some things have gotten worse.

What? I wish I had your playing experience. I cant fight a fellow guildie who plays on another alliance without cc break failing ulti not firing skills being greyed out or hell 5 presses for rally or cloak and all to no avail....
The performance has been terrible since right after mayhem. Only one home xbox na 100up 100down wired cleared all data reset my net it's not me its definitely on zos's end

As a heads up, I don't PvP. There's a number of reasons for that, but one of them is directly related to the topic at hand. Even if I cared about PvP for this game - which I don't - my experiences with it have had such abysmal gameplay performance that I can hardly believe anyone actually plays it at all. I'm not a competitive gamer as a general rule, but when my gameplay experience involves constantly lagging and dying out of nowhere and nothing I saw coming, well... PvP in this game is flat out garbage outside of duels, perhaps. I don't know why any of you bother even attempting it, honestly. It's easily the worst PvP I have ever seen in any game.

I started playing pvp in Haderus 2016 and have been hooked ever since (probably have adrenal fatigue after all the hours) So Imagine telling a strict pvper cyrodiils garbage lolz
Hopefully zos can figure this thing out soon I'd hate to see their amazing game die like this....

It probably didn't help that my first experience with PvP was during an event, I think. I mainly did it because a guild I was in at the time was running guild events to help people with the event. I was really reluctant to bother at all, but decided to go along because the peeps I'd met in that guild were cool cats. I was simply astounded at how terrible the game performance was. It left an equally terrible first impression of Cyrodill (well, technically I'd participated in a skyshard hunt before that, but we didn't really PvP during that). Since then I've gone back in here and there and while the performance hasn't always been as gods awful as it was during that first exposure, it's still pretty darned bad. It made me not care about trying to "get good" at PvP when my abilities wouldn't fire half the time and I'd die out of nowhere. I have had a few good PvP experiences that were quite fun and I think it has some potential, but... hot damn. It's just... so awful performance-wise I can't justify spending any time with it. No offense intended in the least to those of you who enjoy it, but... hot damn. I don't know how you muster the patience. I can't.

linoge63

iCaliban wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

What a great idea! Im sure that will fix the massive ability delay, unresponsive break free, horrible targeting issues, ghost casts found in... Bgs, duels, even pve.

This isnt a cyrodil complaint.

Or just offer Cyrodil as a separate game entirely.

ZOS_Volpe

Greetings,

We've removed some comments that were bashing and discussing disciplinary action. As this thread continues be sure to stay constructive and keep the Forum Rules in mind to avoid derailing the thread.

Thank you for understanding.

MaxJrFTW

I hate to be that guy, but this is obviously a l2p issue

A_Silverius

iCaliban wrote: »

$15 a month sub. $50 a year chapter. Crown crates. Limited time houses.

With all those revenues streams how is it that this games performance has continued to degrade month after month for this long?

You have failed zos.

To be clear. This is not the devs fault. Im sure they work their butts off and have great passion for the game. Whether they haven't had the resources, the manpower or w/e excuse management uses. They failed the devs and us

Instead, they are using the revenue earned to create a new IP rather than fix the game that got them that revenue.

Asys

Maybe just stop throwing money at this amateur company?

iCaliban

ZOS_TrishM wrote: »

Greetings,

We've removed some comments that were bashing and discussing disciplinary action. As this thread continues be sure to stay constructive and keep the Forum Rules in mind to avoid derailing the thread.

Thank you for understanding.

Indeed. This is a focused thread with a simple message: The quality of the product is pathetic and not acceptable.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

I stopped my subscription when monday's fail patch landed.
Just let them handle it now, the ball is in their court.
I don't think it deserves our efforts on the forum anymore. If nothing gets done, oh well...buh bye.

TheFM

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.

They don't care. There'll be a million left who'll buy costumes, houses and pets :-(

They dont have a million active players. There might millions of accounts, but thats not the same as millions of active players, and I do in fact buy a lot of costumes, =P

You shouldn't!

I have bought, the newest ones don't interest me unless they look " functional "

TheRealCherokeee3

synesthesia wrote: »

Langdon64 wrote: »

It is unacceptable. I'm starting to wonder if they, the devs, just lack the skill and knowledge to resolve the issues in this game. I'm not even a veteran player and I can see that the ratio between fixes and fails is just not right. Fix your game already!

I assume Bethesda is in a similar situation as Boeing. Fortunately nobody's life depends on the proper functioning of ESO.

Have you SEEN some of the hardcore full time instantly recognizable PvPer's?

Long_Distance

TheFM wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.

They don't care. There'll be a million left who'll buy costumes, houses and pets :-(

They dont have a million active players. There might millions of accounts, but thats not the same as millions of active players, and I do in fact buy a lot of costumes, =P

You shouldn't!

I have bought, the newest ones don't interest me unless they look " functional "

Waste of money. We'll be out of this game, soon

CritsTheBed

If youre a pvper, the game will always be a laggy incomplete mess. Either you can make peace with that or not. Saying it over and over again will not make zos rememdy the server issues that have been there for years. SORRY

Oreyn_Bearclaw

BuddyAces wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

Complaints about this patch have next to nothing to do with latency or fps. They fundementally broke the smoothness and responsiveness of combat on multiple levels in different places

I know, I've been posting in every thread that has to do with those problems. I'm having every single problem that's been mentioned a hundred times on these forums:

Ults not going off/going off and consuming the ult but the skill never actually firing. Ults getting "eaten" by terrain/not registering (db and leap are not reliable currently)

Bar swap not working unless pressed a second time (some people have it where it takes minutes to swap, mine takes just a second button press so I guess I'm lucky there??)

Stuns going through block. Block not working in general.

Skills not firing at all

Everything still hits you in mid dodge roll

Getting CC'd 3-4 times in a row, constantly, with potion even activated

Players are massively more desynced(sp?) now that they ever have been with regards to where they are actually at compared to where you see them on your screen.

I can literally stand still and watch my stamina bar deplete on its own without me pushing any stamina related abilities. This is rare but I watched it happen twice while standing still just the other day

Glad I don't play my templar because I hear that they have it really bad.

I was merely commenting about their performance fix in my earlier replies in this thread which had to do with supposedly fixing fps/loading screens and whatever else.

EDIT:
All those issues I listed, I have in EVERY single BG that I play. This is why, the last handful of nights, I maybe do 1 bg and then turn the game off for the night.

I guess I feel like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth a bit. I have experienced every thing you said in this post, but yet in your other post, you act like nothing is wrong. These arent completely separate issues. When I am riding along in Cyro between keeps at 100FPS, my skills work fine. The second I get into combat, three things happen. One, my FPS will typically drop into the 30s, my ping will spike into the red zone, and then everything you listed above happens.

I have yet to experience skills failing to function, while my frames stay at a stable 100 fps.

tplink3r1

Long_Distance wrote: »

Next guy who'll pop in will say it's all our addons. The seed was well placed community management..

Some people can't bare to see people pointing out issues on their favorite game.
Lagging? Its your fault, upgrade your PC. Got a high-end PC? Its your fault again, you have to OC it in order to get 15+ fps. Still lagging? Its your fault for using addons.

oXI_Viper_IXo

CritsTheBed wrote: »

If youre a pvper, the game will always be a laggy incomplete mess. Either you can make peace with that or not. Saying it over and over again will not make zos rememdy the server issues that have been there for years. SORRY

Clearly you haven't read the rest of this thread or any of the other recent threads on the subject. This is NOT the normal Cyrodiil lag we're all used to.

These are very specific issues that were introduced with a recent patch on console and with update 25 on PC. [snip]

[edited to remove baiting]

xWarbrain

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

CritsTheBed wrote: »

If youre a pvper, the game will always be a laggy incomplete mess. Either you can make peace with that or not. Saying it over and over again will not make zos rememdy the server issues that have been there for years. SORRY

Clearly you haven't read the rest of this thread or any of the other recent threads on the subject. This is NOT the normal Cyrodiil lag we're all used to.

These are very specific issues that were introduced with a recent patch on console and with update 25 on PC. [snip]

I hit refresh before I hit "Post". Glad I did, because this was almost word for word what I was about to say.

Cryodiil was perfectly fine (as far as Cyrodiil goes, historically) during the Midyear Mayhem event with maxed servers and queues over 200. It's been broken since that event ended, and the major campaign is unplayable in the last couple weeks.

Like we've been saying, this NOT the normal lag of PvP.

[edited quoted post]

Shantu

ZOS_TrishM wrote: »

Greetings,

We've removed some comments that were bashing and discussing disciplinary action. As this thread continues be sure to stay constructive and keep the Forum Rules in mind to avoid derailing the thread.

Thank you for understanding.

ZOS created some pretty high expectations touting their "performance plan". After requiring a complete download of the game, you can't blame people for feeling upset. A smart business would look at a thread like this from a higher level as a signal for more "constructive" development of their product.

A lot of this festering of negativity comes from lack of communication. A simple "We've acknowledged your problems and are committed to resolving them." would go MUCH farther than snarky interjections about bashing and disciplinary actions.

That being said, I'm still hopeful the purposed ongoing performance improvements are just experiencing growing pains. I really enjoy this game, have a lot of time and money invested, and truly want it to succeed a good while longer.

BuddyAces

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

Complaints about this patch have next to nothing to do with latency or fps. They fundementally broke the smoothness and responsiveness of combat on multiple levels in different places

I know, I've been posting in every thread that has to do with those problems. I'm having every single problem that's been mentioned a hundred times on these forums:

Ults not going off/going off and consuming the ult but the skill never actually firing. Ults getting "eaten" by terrain/not registering (db and leap are not reliable currently)

Bar swap not working unless pressed a second time (some people have it where it takes minutes to swap, mine takes just a second button press so I guess I'm lucky there??)

Stuns going through block. Block not working in general.

Skills not firing at all

Everything still hits you in mid dodge roll

Getting CC'd 3-4 times in a row, constantly, with potion even activated

Players are massively more desynced(sp?) now that they ever have been with regards to where they are actually at compared to where you see them on your screen.

I can literally stand still and watch my stamina bar deplete on its own without me pushing any stamina related abilities. This is rare but I watched it happen twice while standing still just the other day

Glad I don't play my templar because I hear that they have it really bad.

I was merely commenting about their performance fix in my earlier replies in this thread which had to do with supposedly fixing fps/loading screens and whatever else.

EDIT:
All those issues I listed, I have in EVERY single BG that I play. This is why, the last handful of nights, I maybe do 1 bg and then turn the game off for the night.

I guess I feel like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth a bit. I have experienced every thing you said in this post, but yet in your other post, you act like nothing is wrong. These arent completely separate issues. When I am riding along in Cyro between keeps at 100FPS, my skills work fine. The second I get into combat, three things happen. One, my FPS will typically drop into the 30s, my ping will spike into the red zone, and then everything you listed above happens.

I have yet to experience skills failing to function, while my frames stay at a stable 100 fps.

Nah man, 2 different issues. I was talking in the one post about the newest patch that was suppose to be the IMPROVEMENT patch which was suppose to fix FPS and LOAD SCREENS. Those sort of things. I'm saying, in my case, when the patch launched there was no noticeable difference in my fps, ping, or loading times. They stayed exactly the same as they were before the patch; hence the patch not doing what it was suppose to do. I had ZERO problems with fps (other than the random drops here or there but for the most part it was good) or ping before, they were both fine. I never got bad ping spikes like a lot of folks do/had/have and my fps were great once I had purchased a new computer last year as I mentioned. This is including trials or pvp (cyrodiill CP campaign is an entirely different issue which hasn't worked for any platform for a very very long time). At the very least I was hoping that load screen times would be immensely faster and that Cyrodiil cp campaign would work but neither of these happened, again: staying the same.

On the other hand I have all of those other issues that started ONLY after the patch dropped. So no, nothing is wrong for ME when it comes to ping or fps whether that be in trials or pvp but now none of my skills work including bar swap and my stamina randomly drains. It is so bad for me that these issues are more common than my skills actually working.

Draxys

I can’t even light attack weave between skills in a solo instance from the main quest. It’s truly ridiculous at this point.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

Complaints about this patch have next to nothing to do with latency or fps. They fundementally broke the smoothness and responsiveness of combat on multiple levels in different places

I know, I've been posting in every thread that has to do with those problems. I'm having every single problem that's been mentioned a hundred times on these forums:

Ults not going off/going off and consuming the ult but the skill never actually firing. Ults getting "eaten" by terrain/not registering (db and leap are not reliable currently)

Bar swap not working unless pressed a second time (some people have it where it takes minutes to swap, mine takes just a second button press so I guess I'm lucky there??)

Stuns going through block. Block not working in general.

Skills not firing at all

Everything still hits you in mid dodge roll

Getting CC'd 3-4 times in a row, constantly, with potion even activated

Players are massively more desynced(sp?) now that they ever have been with regards to where they are actually at compared to where you see them on your screen.

I can literally stand still and watch my stamina bar deplete on its own without me pushing any stamina related abilities. This is rare but I watched it happen twice while standing still just the other day

Glad I don't play my templar because I hear that they have it really bad.

I was merely commenting about their performance fix in my earlier replies in this thread which had to do with supposedly fixing fps/loading screens and whatever else.

EDIT:
All those issues I listed, I have in EVERY single BG that I play. This is why, the last handful of nights, I maybe do 1 bg and then turn the game off for the night.

I guess I feel like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth a bit. I have experienced every thing you said in this post, but yet in your other post, you act like nothing is wrong. These arent completely separate issues. When I am riding along in Cyro between keeps at 100FPS, my skills work fine. The second I get into combat, three things happen. One, my FPS will typically drop into the 30s, my ping will spike into the red zone, and then everything you listed above happens.

I have yet to experience skills failing to function, while my frames stay at a stable 100 fps.

Nah man, 2 different issues. I was talking in the one post about the newest patch that was suppose to be the IMPROVEMENT patch which was suppose to fix FPS and LOAD SCREENS. Those sort of things. I'm saying, in my case, when the patch launched there was no noticeable difference in my fps, ping, or loading times. They stayed exactly the same as they were before the patch; hence the patch not doing what it was suppose to do. I had ZERO problems with fps (other than the random drops here or there but for the most part it was good) or ping before, they were both fine. I never got bad ping spikes like a lot of folks do/had/have and my fps were great once I had purchased a new computer last year as I mentioned. This is including trials or pvp (cyrodiill CP campaign is an entirely different issue which hasn't worked for any platform for a very very long time). At the very least I was hoping that load screen times would be immensely faster and that Cyrodiil cp campaign would work but neither of these happened, again: staying the same.

On the other hand I have all of those other issues that started ONLY after the patch dropped. So no, nothing is wrong for ME when it comes to ping or fps whether that be in trials or pvp but now none of my skills work including bar swap and my stamina randomly drains. It is so bad for me that these issues are more common than my skills actually working.

Appreciate the clarification. Either way, I think we can agree that this patch didnt help combat performance, however you want to define it. haha.

I guess my issue is that if I am paying attention, when i do have all the issues of skills failing to fire, stuttering, rubberbanding, whatever, it does usually correlate with an FPS dip. Might be a chicken and the egg issue, but either way, things are broken.