Performance is unacceptable

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 4

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

Chaos2088 · March 4

Have we had any offical response from Zos about all the problems?

Túrin_Vidsmidr · March 4

I'll never understand how a multibillionaire company is so incompetent to make (at least mostly) laggless servers.
Others run space projects with that sort of money.

iCaliban · March 4

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

Chaos2088 wrote: »

Have we had any offical response from Zos about all the problems?

Nothing but blaming addons. As if that wasnt obvious garbage by now

Long_Distance · March 4

Next guy who'll pop in will say it's all our addons. The seed was well placed community management..

The_Lex · March 4

I had issues even in lowbie BGs yesterday. Skills not firing...can't bar swap...ults not dropping. Even when I could bar swap, it was after a few seconds' delay.

BAWITDABAW · March 4

Starlock wrote: »

As a heads up, I don't PvP.

clearly

BuddyAces · March 4

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

Mayrael · March 4

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Please... Pass it to the people responsible for the supposed "performance fix", since last patch 5.3.5 fixing the crashes lags got only worse, when people say it's unplayable, they don't exaggerate.

luizpaulom17 · March 4

Well, I pretty much didnt expect you to understand xenophoby m8... lol

harold12 · March 5

It will get fixed, I know It's hard to be patient but that's what it boils down to.

You know what causes lag? Players. The game is *extremely* popular, so try to take solace in that fact.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 5

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

BuddyAces · March 5

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

iCaliban · March 5

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

Complaints about this patch have next to nothing to do with latency or fps. They fundementally broke the smoothness and responsiveness of combat on multiple levels in different places

ZOS_FelipeF · March 5

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BuddyAces · March 5

iCaliban wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

Once more, I personally have seen improvements from load times to fps increase. Only time I get bad issues is pvp but that goes away when I lower my graphics from high to medium as my pc is not that great. From what I have gathered, ppl with mid range pcs seem to be seeing overall improvement where high end sees a decrease. I wonder if it's a comparability issue between the game and hardware.

This is the issue. I too, especially in the first week was blown away by the frame rate increase. I play this game on a high end rig, and typically run in either high or ultra at 3440x1440. For the first time, I was legitimately getting a stable 100FPS in PVE, and out of combat in PVP. It was great. Good frames, low ping, skills fired, it was as good as I had seen this game run in years. I was excited about eso for the first time in a long while.

The only issue I could see were PVP disconnects. Frustrating, but I could live them. As DCs go, they were fast and I was able to get right back in.

Then they patched something on Monday. And it's worse than before. If I am just sitting in PVE or at an unoccupied keep, I will say my frames are a bit better today than pre patch, but that's the end of it. Since Monday, primetime PVP is unplayable, and off hours are no treat either. Even in my house on a target dummy, I am having issues with rubber-banding, desyncs and skills/light attacks simply not firing.

I never really had issues with load times. There were a few patches when they were really bad, but that was years ago.

I renewed my sub about a month ago after a 6 month hiatus. I already cancelled it again. This patch was failed promise as far as I can tell.

I had zero performance problems before the patch. The odd fps dips here and there randomly but I never had an fps issues.

After the patch? Nothing changed lol. My fps didn't get worse or better. Stayed the same. Load screens stayed the same. There was exactly no difference in any game improvement nor did it get worse. It was as if I didn't even get an update. But...

None of my skills work. Posted in other threads about all issues I'm having so I'll skip it here. I just find it funny how some posters are saying they see improvements and others saying they are worse off and here I sit with absolutely no differential in fps, loading times, or ping.

I don't mean to make assumptions, but I can't imagine you are playing primetime PVP or doing 12 man trials. I have never talked to anyone that does either of the two with any frequency that hasnt had performance issues from time to time.

This game runs just fine if you are questing, and even four man stuff is usually pretty flawless. I have been raiding since the days that killing the Manticore was a huge achievement. haha. PVE trial content has been steadily getting worse in terms of performance. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is PVP. It is just god awful, and it didnt use to be.

As for me saying it got better, well, like I said I run at high resolution. I also just recently got a 200hz ultrawide, so I can feel even the slightest bit of improvement, and this patch (last week anyway) was more than slight. It was 15-20 frames. For the first time, I have considered manually unlocking the FPS cap at 100 (why they cap at 100 fps, who knows).

TLDR: If you are playing at medium or high at 1080p, and avoid Primetime PVP and Trials, not surprised you didnt notice much.

Everyone lags in Cyrodiil. Everyone.

I bought a new computer last year. If I turn shadows off I was hitting 45-80 fps in trials and the same in huge cryo zergs. I just came back to the game not quite a month ago, left right after kittyland launched last year. I did one trial, remembered why I left the first time and dropped the pve aspect and have been just doing pvp. I don't see a severe frame rate loss at all, as in like I said, no difference from pre patch. Nothing got better nor worse minus all the ability delay/not firing off etc etc. The patch literally changed not one single thing when it launched for me.

Complaints about this patch have next to nothing to do with latency or fps. They fundementally broke the smoothness and responsiveness of combat on multiple levels in different places

I know, I've been posting in every thread that has to do with those problems. I'm having every single problem that's been mentioned a hundred times on these forums:

Ults not going off/going off and consuming the ult but the skill never actually firing. Ults getting "eaten" by terrain/not registering (db and leap are not reliable currently)

Bar swap not working unless pressed a second time (some people have it where it takes minutes to swap, mine takes just a second button press so I guess I'm lucky there??)

Stuns going through block. Block not working in general.

Skills not firing at all

Everything still hits you in mid dodge roll

Getting CC'd 3-4 times in a row, constantly, with potion even activated

Players are massively more desynced(sp?) now that they ever have been with regards to where they are actually at compared to where you see them on your screen.

I can literally stand still and watch my stamina bar deplete on its own without me pushing any stamina related abilities. This is rare but I watched it happen twice while standing still just the other day

Glad I don't play my templar because I hear that they have it really bad.

I was merely commenting about their performance fix in my earlier replies in this thread which had to do with supposedly fixing fps/loading screens and whatever else.

EDIT:
All those issues I listed, I have in EVERY single BG that I play. This is why, the last handful of nights, I maybe do 1 bg and then turn the game off for the night.

Katahdin · March 5

Lagging AND crashing now in Cyrodill

This was supposed to IMPROVE performance??

Its the worst its ever been for me

BuddyAces · March 5

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

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Well seeing as I can't PVP in this game because nothing works, I figured I'd come to the forums and get some pvp here till yall can fix this mess.

synesthesia · March 5

Langdon64 wrote: »

It is unacceptable. I'm starting to wonder if they, the devs, just lack the skill and knowledge to resolve the issues in this game. I'm not even a veteran player and I can see that the ratio between fixes and fails is just not right. Fix your game already!

I assume Bethesda is in a similar situation as Boeing. Fortunately nobody's life depends on the proper functioning of ESO.

Rowjoh · March 5

The sad (and very strange) thing for PVP'ers is that a couple of years ago Cyrodiil (PC/Mac EU) was in a much better place performance and balance wise, yet since then it's got incrementally worse to the point that it's become unbearable or unplayable for many players, despite numerous attempts to the opposite.

Kalante · March 5

oXI_Viper_lXo wrote:

It's sad that we've gotten to the point that most people dread new updates and patches, rather than look forward to them.

Ive been dreading patches since horns of the reach. That was what? over two years ago? Now we are where we are...

Sanctum74 · March 5

Kalante wrote: »

oXI_Viper_lXo wrote:

It's sad that we've gotten to the point that most people dread new updates and patches, rather than look forward to them.

Ive been dreading patches since horns of the reach. That was what? over two years ago? Now we are where we are...

I agree, I miss the days of looking forward to a new patch, but now it’s anxiety wondering what they will break next 😩

imredneckson · March 5

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

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Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

FrankonPC · March 5

Starlock wrote: »

I guess it's different on other platforms, but it's pretty much fine on xbox and definitely within the realm of "acceptable." Some things have gotten better, some things have gotten worse.

Over the last year, I notice a LOT less problems with world texture failing to load, which is fantastic. However, at the same time this was fixed we got the massive frame rate dips when loading in from a wayshrine for 5-20 seconds. Over the last year or so, many areas where I would routinely crash in are no longer a problem (I can't call Grahtwood "Crashwood" anymore). However, at the same time I am getting occasional freezes in loading screens that require me to restart my game. Input delays and lags have stayed pretty much at "it's acceptable, but really could be better" that it's been since launch.

So... all in all it's a wash, in my experience - in the realm of acceptable, but could use some improvement. This game has never had outstanding performance as an online game and I've never expected that from it. Besides, if I'm going to throw a fit about an issue with this game, it's going to be their increasingly troubling push towards play-to-pay.

I don't think you're playing in cyrodiil then. There's nothing good about performance in open world right now.

Contaminate · March 5

imredneckson wrote: »

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

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Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

They’ll ignore it and hope people stop talking about it

Katahdin · March 5

Contaminate wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

Some posts have been removed for violating our policy on bashing and baiting. Please take a moment to review our community rules.

Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

They’ll ignore it and hope people stop talking about it

People will stop talking about it right before they stop playing

blkjag · March 5

Katahdin wrote: »

Contaminate wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

Some posts have been removed for violating our policy on bashing and baiting. Please take a moment to review our community rules.

Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

They’ll ignore it and hope people stop talking about it

People will stop talking about it right before they stop playing

100%

imredneckson · March 5

Contaminate wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

Some posts have been removed for violating our policy on bashing and baiting. Please take a moment to review our community rules.

Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

They’ll ignore it and hope people stop talking about it

Yep and their lack of communication will just keep on building more distrust of them and less money will flow into their pockets. The more communication and fixes they add, the more money and people will go their way. Until, ZOS learns basic economic practices the game will continue to decline.

Contaminate · March 5

imredneckson wrote: »

Contaminate wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »

Greetings,

Some posts have been removed for violating our policy on bashing and baiting. Please take a moment to review our community rules.

Can we get any info on what your plan is for fixing the lag in Cyrodiil?

They’ll ignore it and hope people stop talking about it

Yep and their lack of communication will just keep on building more distrust of them and less money will flow into their pockets. The more communication and fixes they add, the more money and people will go their way. Until, ZOS learns basic economic practices the game will continue to decline.

ZOS understands economics, but they lack any business ethics that would obligate them to make anything good, fair, or functional.

TheFM · March 5

Poncho88 wrote: »

I wonder if pulling the plug on Cyrodiil is a viable option, at least until ZoS and others can figure out what needs to be done.

If they want to lose thousands of customers.