GAME BREAKING ISSUE - spamming block can now disconnect you from the server

technohic

It's easy enough to test if someone can get on. Didn't take long in my experience

Aruu

technohic wrote: »

It's easy enough to test if someone can get on. Didn't take long in my experience

Can confirm, it very much still kicks you for spam.

SeveN085

Yeah it's not fixed. I've tried playing stamblade and just as other people have noticed, even bash weaving is enough to get booted eventually. Guess it's time to switch to PVE although if ZOS really decided to leave this as a "feature", I'm honestly scared of the future. Like what's next? They're going to rework another core mechanic of the game in the future like maybe weaving and we will have to be careful to not do it too fast or else we'll be disconnected? What a joke.

NoNameNamer

As expected, they backed themselves into a corner here and the fix will require some redesigning.

VaranisArano

Can confirm this is still happening. Rapidly clicking block for 17 seconds kicked me to login-in screen.

Ticket# 200302-001731

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi everyone, just confirming we are aware of this issue. We've been working on getting it fixed, but weren't able to fully fix it before today's patch. Once a fix is complete and tested, we'll plan to roll it out into an incremental patch.

React

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just confirming we are aware of this issue. We've been working on getting it fixed, but weren't able to fully fix it before today's patch. Once a fix is complete and tested, we'll plan to roll it out into an incremental patch.

How was this even allowed to happen, though? There were so many bugs reported during the PTS that you guys straight up ignored, which then went live with the harrowstorm launch. What is the point of having a PTS?

You shouldn't have touched the blocking system until you had a polished rework available for testing, and when you put it out for testing you should have actually acknowledged the feedback and made adjustments based on that. Now we're going to be stuck with a broken base combat system which will be compounded by how bad overall performance STILL IS during the "performance" focused patch, and it is going to make a lot of people leave the game. I mean if it seemed hopeless before that the developers might be able to improve performance and fix the game, this patch has just hammered that point home.

VaranisArano

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just confirming we are aware of this issue. We've been working on getting it fixed, but weren't able to fully fix it before today's patch. Once a fix is complete and tested, we'll plan to roll it out into an incremental patch.

Thanks! Its good to know that the team is aware and working on a fix! Its especially nice to know that this isn't intended.

MJallday

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will this issue be resolved by today's update?

The word block doesnt even appear in the patch notes.

It’s still broken

If this goes live on console then it’ll be horrific

The_Lex

Curious_Death

yesterday i was afk during character select... i got kicked out from server... ok fair...

but when i started to type my password... i got crashed...

Mojomonkeyman

Liam12548 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just confirming we are aware of this issue. We've been working on getting it fixed, but weren't able to fully fix it before today's patch. Once a fix is complete and tested, we'll plan to roll it out into an incremental patch.

How was this even allowed to happen, though? There were so many bugs reported during the PTS that you guys straight up ignored, which then went live with the harrowstorm launch. What is the point of having a PTS?

You shouldn't have touched the blocking system until you had a polished rework available for testing, and when you put it out for testing you should have actually acknowledged the feedback and made adjustments based on that. Now we're going to be stuck with a broken base combat system which will be compounded by how bad overall performance STILL IS during the "performance" focused patch, and it is going to make a lot of people leave the game. I mean if it seemed hopeless before that the developers might be able to improve performance and fix the game, this patch has just hammered that point home.

Cant agree more. At this point its a severe lack of QA and frankly professionalism to release such an unpolished patch, letting your customers suffer severe inconviences for two weeks (fix maybe next incremental patch) with minimal communication. It seems you didnt even monitor how your most impactful patch change (block) would behave on live servers, otherwise you wouldve reconized before your customers had to flood forum & tickets. Now we have to wait another week...

I've seen CEO's of companies twice your studio size man up and apologize for such a messup.

Moonsorrow

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just confirming we are aware of this issue. We've been working on getting it fixed, but weren't able to fully fix it before today's patch. Once a fix is complete and tested, we'll plan to roll it out into an incremental patch.

A big thank you for letting us know you are aware and doing a fix for it, pve tanking and pvp tactical playing been miserable since the Harrowstorm, but seems todays patch DID fix many of the crashing issues so i hope the Block bug gets fixed too soon(tm).

Paramedicus

Tried fang liar hm on my tank with non cap cp friends (300-810 cp) so fights were more intense and slower than with 777777 dps team. Seems that longer fight is - bigger probability for dc is. I didnt experience it before 'block fix'. I could get dc on load screen, dung finish or death sometimes, but not when there is 10% hp left on boss. It s like game couldnt deal with too much input and just 'choke' at some point. I didnt get dcs in other parts of dung or non hm (we were doing few runs for achievement). It was so frustrating. How the hell im supposed to tank intense fights, knowing i may dc if i do too much???

russelmmendoza

Good thing I do not block.

I just die, lol.

JumpmanLane

Oh, god just revert the changes to block. THAT isnt fixing performance. Geeze
. I'm getting a refund for Greymoor and I'm just gonna play something else. It's just not fun anymore.

D0PAMINE

Honestly, Im starting to think the devs post on these forums quite frequently

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Oh, god just revert the changes to block. THAT isnt fixing performance. Geeze
. I'm getting a refund for Greymoor and I'm just gonna play something else. It's just not fun anymore.

Agreed.

technohic

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Oh, god just revert the changes to block. THAT isnt fixing performance. Geeze
. I'm getting a refund for Greymoor and I'm just gonna play something else. It's just not fun anymore.

How do we get refunds? I always figure they give the mount right away so they can say you already accepted the product. I think i am with you here.

zaria

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Carespanker wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

SeveN085 wrote: »

If you don't believe, spam block button yourself real fast for like 10-15 seconds and you will get kicked.

L2Pissue wrote: »

Yep it works
I just spammed block for 15 seconds to log out,
Thanks for this feature.

Then maybe don't go around spamming block for 15 seconds till you're kicked?
If it turns out to be destabilizing the server and/or affecting the players around you, honestly a kick should be followed by a ban for deliberately sabotaging the game.

Stop shooting yourselves in the foot and asking ZOS for a bandaid.

Ya know tanks do split-second blocks quite frequently in hard content right?...

If tanks are blocking legitimately and having crashes, that's one thing. But deliberately manufacturing an issue by spamming block until you get kicked... I don't feel that's ZOS's responsibility to fix.
If legitimate uses of block cause a problem, I'm sure the reports will make their way to ZOS. Standing around spamming block for 15 seconds to manufacture a problem is not legit.

I guess block casting will also trigger this, spamming bash is also legit especially if you have lag who i assume also trigger the risk.

Mojomonkeyman

@ZOS_GinaBruno

The issue is still making me crash to login screen almost every single bg match or dungeon I play, it even happens when block cancelling with sprinting or barswapping rapidly in pve overland - several times an hour. I dont know what to do anymore, it's impossible to play that way. Several tickets have been sent.

It's been almost 3 weeks since you broke what was working, can we get an update on when your fix is coming? I can't justify spending subscription on a game that is not working and 3 weeks is a damn long time.

LadyDestiny

Just great. Let's hope it doesn't take till next year to fix this.

SeveN085

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

The issue is still making me crash to login screen almost every single bg match or dungeon I play, it even happens when block cancelling with sprinting or barswapping rapidly in pve overland - several times an hour. I dont know what to do anymore, it's impossible to play that way. Several tickets have been sent.

It's been almost 3 weeks since you broke what was working, can we get an update on when your fix is coming? I can't justify spending subscription on a game that is not working and 3 weeks is a damn long time.

Have you tried disabling some of your addons? I was getting disconnected on 6 out of 7 pvp characters in bg's untill I disabled Bandit UI.

Mojomonkeyman

SeveN085 wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

The issue is still making me crash to login screen almost every single bg match or dungeon I play, it even happens when block cancelling with sprinting or barswapping rapidly in pve overland - several times an hour. I dont know what to do anymore, it's impossible to play that way. Several tickets have been sent.

It's been almost 3 weeks since you broke what was working, can we get an update on when your fix is coming? I can't justify spending subscription on a game that is not working and 3 weeks is a damn long time.

Have you tried disabling some of your addons? I was getting disconnected on 6 out of 7 pvp characters in bg's untill I disabled Bandit UI.

Not just that, I've done everything I could think of yesterday:

-Whitelisting exe64 on defender and antivirus
-Starting eso64 in admin mode
-Updating, then deactivating, then deleting all addons (step by step) including deletion of addonsetting.txt
-Restarting router
-Putting eso on high priority in task manager
-Setting static IP instead of dynamic one

Nothing helped, next bg or dungeon after going through those steps one by one would eventually result in crash to login. I've been able to reproduce the crash even in overland pve areas just by emulating my infight behaviour - frequent blockcanceling of skills, combined with quick barswaps, a lot of sprint-tapping and some bashing here and there. Will lead inevitably to the mentioned crash. With zero addons being active.

By now I'm 100% certain this is solely related to the block changes - my behavior seems to create some kind of communication overflow to the server. Just as indicated by many other forum users here and in other threads.

This is so beyond frustrating.

ZOS_GinaBruno

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Just great. Let's hope it doesn't take till next year to fix this.

Nope, we have a fix included with the next PC incremental patch.

technohic

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Just great. Let's hope it doesn't take till next year to fix this.

Nope, we have a fix included with the next PC incremental patch.

When is that, BTW?

Jaraal

Royaji wrote: »

I wish I was surprised... but you know? Feels like par for the course after all this time.

It’s part of the new performance update. The more people that are crashed out, the faster things run for those ERPing in Auridon.

jhnartb14_ESO

Jaraal wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

I wish I was surprised... but you know? Feels like par for the course after all this time.

It’s part of the new performance update. The more people that are crashed out, the faster things run for those ERPing in Auridon.

Is it Auridon now? Not Rivenspire? 🤢

ZOS_GinaBruno

technohic wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Just great. Let's hope it doesn't take till next year to fix this.

Nope, we have a fix included with the next PC incremental patch.

When is that, BTW?

It is likely going to be on Monday, but we're still getting everything planned out.

zvavi

XDDDDDDD i just checked it xd

technohic

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Just great. Let's hope it doesn't take till next year to fix this.

Nope, we have a fix included with the next PC incremental patch.

When is that, BTW?

It is likely going to be on Monday, but we're still getting everything planned out.

Well; its disappointing to have another weekend of awful but the update is appreciated