darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »People have been complaining about not being able to buy more things with the tickets they have - ZOS added the pet/memento items to the impresario.
You don't see the blatant manipulation with making it cost more tickets to acquire a single of those two items than is possible to get during the entirety of the event?
It's not blatant manipulation if it's possible to get both items by both farming and earning tickets. People are getting two and three fragments in one strong box.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »
So, this thread should be enough feedback to get the ball back in the lane, right?
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I'd like to be able to get SOMEthing for my troubles from the vendor. I'm really not interested in the Indrik nor indrik pet. I'm not even worried about getting enough 'fragments', though I suppose i'll not ditch them, assuming I will eventually get enough, someday?
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But I'm hearing that there really isn't any reason to participate in this event, because you just are not actually able to 'earn' enough event tokens to get anything anyway? So, what, you earn some tokens this time, and wait a year to earn more?
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Honestly, i don't even know why I keep playing.
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I was gonna grind my Wood-Elf through Grahtwood to get the uber pod house, but then I learned that Wood-Elfs aren't even really 'green'. They are actively against eating plants. It is just too damn stupid. Now I'm thinking maybe my Wood-Elf can grind Murkmire for a whatever mud dwelling or something, whatever, but why? The event is not even worth doing? Really?
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Can it really be THAT bad?
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I guess I'm taking the Wood-Elf back to Auridon and grind that to completion and probably get whatever fancy-ass house they have there. It feels like some sort of regression. It feels like I should just quit playing.
oh, i just learned today that the 'hist' are sex-changers... that's a deal breaker for me, not going to grind for a house there
probably just opt-out of the event altogether, except for crafting node drop bonus, that one isn't too bad, mostly for the alchemist stuff
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someone mentioned that they quit all the grinding a couple of years ago and just pvp; makes sense
You can get gold from questing or whatever, pvp dailies? Then if you want to craft something you can just have someone else do it or use the gold to buy craft materials, level up crafter, etc. Never really need to touch a craft node.
But anyway, it's a game, with different aspects.
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i'm not even sure how to see what numbers of tickets i have or how to spend them; the guy in the big tent?
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oh, i had a question, pretty basic; so i got one chest earlier, before the official start of new day, when the daily reward resets. Do i get another chest or do i have to wait 24 hours from when I got the first chest?
ApostateHobo wrote: »Yeah after the undaunted event becoming pure garbage compared to the way it was before, and now murkmire with it's abysmally low drop rates on extra boxes you can really see how the events are just becoming a way to sell tickets on the store. Which is really sad because events are supposed to be a fun way to get cool extra stuff, but now they're just becoming cashgrabs because you can't realistically get all the stuff you want just by playing anymore.
In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.
A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.
Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.
if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.
so, think of it from a business standpoint.
have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money
or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back
which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.
Rave the Histborn wrote: »In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.
A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.
Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.
if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.
so, think of it from a business standpoint.
have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money
or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back
which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.
They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.
You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »I love how you throw up a screenshot from one guy and act like everythings ok, disregarding the tons of posts made on the subject as just a few people whining on a forum.
When you reject all evidence and buckle down with your own incorrect data that's what we call arguing in bad faith. You know you're wrong but you don't care. Nothing we can say or show you will change that. The only reason I am even giving you the time of day again is to fight your silly misinformation so that people can see that 1 - They are not the only ones having horrible RNG on these strongboxes, if they even get more than 1. and 2. Having them not tradable and fragments costing 5 tickets is a blatant cash grab.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.
A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.
Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.
if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.
so, think of it from a business standpoint.
have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money
or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back
which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.
They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.
You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.
It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.
A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.
Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.
if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.
so, think of it from a business standpoint.
have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money
or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back
which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.
They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.
You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.
It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.
A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.
Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.
if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.
so, think of it from a business standpoint.
have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money
or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back
which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.
They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.
You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.
It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.
Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible
Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible
Rave the Histborn wrote: »
It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.
kringled_1 wrote: »Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectibleRave the Histborn wrote: »
It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.
As far as going all in on tickets for one of the collectibles: A lot of people are going to want to buy one of the berries, because they already have sunk costs on berries from the previous events. The cap on tickets kind of ensures that. Which puts the margins to pretty low if your luck is poor.
And people started complaining on day 1 because with almost all previous collectibles, parts were tradeable. It's a huge insurance policy against bad luck. And unlike the past 3 events where you might not have had the tickets/drops to get all the outfit styles, those individual style pages were usable on their own, whereas here, if you end up with 5 parts of a collectible? You don't have anything you can 'use' in game. People are complaining because this and the existing drop rates leaves them anxious.
It's a big shift from when tickets first came out and the expectation was that if you were on every day and paid attention and a little bit of time, you could get everything from the event and then some.
The drop rate on the second box is ridiculously low. Playing more doesn't seem to do a whole lot to increase the boxes you get, so telling people to go out there and work harder just sounds like some republican pipe-dream meant to pull us all up by our bootstraps.If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already
kringled_1 wrote: »Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectibleRave the Histborn wrote: »
It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.
As far as going all in on tickets for one of the collectibles: A lot of people are going to want to buy one of the berries, because they already have sunk costs on berries from the previous events. The cap on tickets kind of ensures that. Which puts the margins to pretty low if your luck is poor.
And people started complaining on day 1 because with almost all previous collectibles, parts were tradeable. It's a huge insurance policy against bad luck. And unlike the past 3 events where you might not have had the tickets/drops to get all the outfit styles, those individual style pages were usable on their own, whereas here, if you end up with 5 parts of a collectible? You don't have anything you can 'use' in game. People are complaining because this and the existing drop rates leaves them anxious.
It's a big shift from when tickets first came out and the expectation was that if you were on every day and paid attention and a little bit of time, you could get everything from the event and then some.
People have been complaining about not being able to buy more things with the tickets they have - ZOS added the pet/memento items to the impresario.
People have been complaining that they can't get loot from bosses because people are killing them to fast or their computers can't handle the strain with 50 players all using abilities in the same place - ZOS changed the prerequisite to any monster at all to spread out player concentration.
People have been complaining that they've got a bunch of useless items in their inventory that they can't sell and are just taking up inventory space - ZOS makes the fragments into collectibles.
ZOS is giving you people what you're asking for and now you're complaining because it's not the exact way you feel like it should be. There is plenty of time and there are plenty of tickets being provided for you to get everything out of the event if you participate. If ZOS was really that concerned about making money, they would have simply put the voriplasm pet in the crown store and forgone the whole fragment thing altogether - it's obvious people really want it.
people are complaining because the drop rate is so horrible that it is literally impossible to get the pet and emote so the only way to do it is to buy and sell doubles which they cant do that either.
if the drop rate was reasonable people wouldnt be complaining. Zos is in the wrong. They screwed up.
people are complaining because the drop rate is so horrible that it is literally impossible to get the pet and emote so the only way to do it is to buy and sell doubles which they cant do that either.
There are people that are getting two memento/pet parts in strongboxes and there are people who had the pet by the end of the first day. This is obviously not true.
if the drop rate was reasonable people wouldnt be complaining. Zos is in the wrong. They screwed up.
"If the drop rate was what I think the drop rate should be, I wouldn't be here complaining."
There, fixed it.
who needs these events? Other than those who like to complain about it...