Very disappointed in Murkmire event, and recent events.

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    Kahnak wrote: »
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    People have been complaining about not being able to buy more things with the tickets they have - ZOS added the pet/memento items to the impresario.

    You don't see the blatant manipulation with making it cost more tickets to acquire a single of those two items than is possible to get during the entirety of the event?

    It's not blatant manipulation if it's possible to get both items by both farming and earning tickets. People are getting two and three fragments in one strong box.

    How many people are we talking about? Because Random Joe said on the forums he got 3 fragments in one box doesn't mean that this is a common thing...
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    I love how you throw up a screenshot from one guy and act like everythings ok, disregarding the tons of posts made on the subject as just a few people whining on a forum.

    When you reject all evidence and buckle down with your own incorrect data that's what we call arguing in bad faith. You know you're wrong but you don't care. Nothing we can say or show you will change that. The only reason I am even giving you the time of day again is to fight your silly misinformation so that people can see that 1 - They are not the only ones having horrible RNG on these strongboxes, if they even get more than 1. and 2. Having them not tradable and fragments costing 5 tickets is a blatant cash grab.
  • mattaeus01b16_ESO
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    ZoS sent me here from another post they shutdown cause... well.. It was bashing them for being greedy MFers.

    GOOD NEWS! I GOT MY FIRST MURKMIRE STRONG BOX THAT WASNT GUARANTEED LAST NIGHT AFTER 12 HOURS OF FARMING! *** YAH!!

    And inside I got a slap....

    Today, I got 1 box after 3 hours of farming... AND another slap.
    So... Since this has started, I have gotten the 3 guaranteed strongboxes, and 4 from farming for 15 hours, and 3 pieces in total for the pet. POOR ME, I got *** by a greedy monolithic gaming company that dosnt even have to class to respond to there critics without it going threw a firewall first.
    Tired of defending this crap cause its a game I like to play. A game where I am hindered from end game content because of physical disabilities I endure, and only real joy I get is from farming *** for myself. And sharing with other guildies that dont have the time in there life to waist doing endless farming.
    OH! But there it is.. They dont have the time because of life and work... But they got a pocketbook, dont they? YEAH! And they got credit cards, right? *** YEAH! Well lets make it easy for them to get the pet, by LETTING them buy tickets if they want.. you know, cause we will make the pieces account bound. And for the low LOW price of 63 BUCKS AND SOME CHANGE!!
    FOR a digital glob of *** phlegm *Slow Clap*
    Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
    Player 2 "Huh?"
    Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
    Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
    Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
    Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
    Player 1 has left the group...
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    The writing was on the wall for predatory monetization of events the moment tickets were put in the cash shop. They took their time in pulling something so blatant to try and normalize different mechanics so customers wouldn’t notice. Many of them still won’t realize they’re being played. Worse, a few will actually defend this crap.
  • friimynd
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    So, this thread should be enough feedback to get the ball back in the lane, right?
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    I'd like to be able to get SOMEthing for my troubles from the vendor. I'm really not interested in the Indrik nor indrik pet. I'm not even worried about getting enough 'fragments', though I suppose i'll not ditch them, assuming I will eventually get enough, someday?
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    But I'm hearing that there really isn't any reason to participate in this event, because you just are not actually able to 'earn' enough event tokens to get anything anyway? So, what, you earn some tokens this time, and wait a year to earn more?
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    Honestly, i don't even know why I keep playing.
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    I was gonna grind my Wood-Elf through Grahtwood to get the uber pod house, but then I learned that Wood-Elfs aren't even really 'green'. They are actively against eating plants. It is just too damn stupid. Now I'm thinking maybe my Wood-Elf can grind Murkmire for a whatever mud dwelling or something, whatever, but why? The event is not even worth doing? Really?
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    Can it really be THAT bad?
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    I guess I'm taking the Wood-Elf back to Auridon and grind that to completion and probably get whatever fancy-ass house they have there. It feels like some sort of regression. It feels like I should just quit playing.
    gg ^&*
    Oh, now i 'C', lol ( * & ^ )
    Finally realized it is supposed to be about 'friends' online, lol; i thought it was about 'enemies' online, hmm
    Well, i can (must) buy the darkwood (?) sry, lol; blackwood expansion to get the companions, right? i'm looking into it right now.
    If they gonna put companions in the game, i'm a fool to say no (and be a f2p peon grinder, lol; feel for u, i used to do to) ;#)
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    Kahnak wrote: »
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    I can type whatever I want in zone chat too. Doesn't make it real. Next time get a screenshot of the container with the drops inside.
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
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    I can type whatever I want in zone chat too. Doesn't make it real. Next time get a screenshot of the container with the drops inside.

    It is possible go get more than one fragment per box, though. Happened to me too. However, that fragments are collectibles is the root of the problem. If you have bad luck, you have to pay to win the event rewards. That shouldn’t ever happen.
  • PizzaCat82
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    friimynd wrote: »
    So, this thread should be enough feedback to get the ball back in the lane, right?
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    I'd like to be able to get SOMEthing for my troubles from the vendor. I'm really not interested in the Indrik nor indrik pet. I'm not even worried about getting enough 'fragments', though I suppose i'll not ditch them, assuming I will eventually get enough, someday?
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    But I'm hearing that there really isn't any reason to participate in this event, because you just are not actually able to 'earn' enough event tokens to get anything anyway? So, what, you earn some tokens this time, and wait a year to earn more?
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    Honestly, i don't even know why I keep playing.
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    I was gonna grind my Wood-Elf through Grahtwood to get the uber pod house, but then I learned that Wood-Elfs aren't even really 'green'. They are actively against eating plants. It is just too damn stupid. Now I'm thinking maybe my Wood-Elf can grind Murkmire for a whatever mud dwelling or something, whatever, but why? The event is not even worth doing? Really?
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    Can it really be THAT bad?
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    I guess I'm taking the Wood-Elf back to Auridon and grind that to completion and probably get whatever fancy-ass house they have there. It feels like some sort of regression. It feels like I should just quit playing.

    If you dont care about berries, the 3 tickets per day are pretty easy to get, and you can choose one of the event rewards with them.
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    Yeah after the undaunted event becoming pure garbage compared to the way it was before, and now murkmire with it's abysmally low drop rates on extra boxes you can really see how the events are just becoming a way to sell tickets on the store. Which is really sad because events are supposed to be a fun way to get cool extra stuff, but now they're just becoming cashgrabs because you can't realistically get all the stuff you want just by playing anymore.
  • friimynd
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    oh, i just learned today that the 'hist' are sex-changers... that's a deal breaker for me, not going to grind for a house there
    probably just opt-out of the event altogether, except for crafting node drop bonus, that one isn't too bad, mostly for the alchemist stuff
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    someone mentioned that they quit all the grinding a couple of years ago and just pvp; makes sense
    You can get gold from questing or whatever, pvp dailies? Then if you want to craft something you can just have someone else do it or use the gold to buy craft materials, level up crafter, etc. Never really need to touch a craft node.
    But anyway, it's a game, with different aspects.
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    i'm not even sure how to see what numbers of tickets i have or how to spend them; the guy in the big tent?
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    oh, i had a question, pretty basic; so i got one chest earlier, before the official start of new day, when the daily reward resets. Do i get another chest or do i have to wait 24 hours from when I got the first chest?
    gg ^&*
    Oh, now i 'C', lol ( * & ^ )
    Finally realized it is supposed to be about 'friends' online, lol; i thought it was about 'enemies' online, hmm
    Well, i can (must) buy the darkwood (?) sry, lol; blackwood expansion to get the companions, right? i'm looking into it right now.
    If they gonna put companions in the game, i'm a fool to say no (and be a f2p peon grinder, lol; feel for u, i used to do to) ;#)
  • PizzaCat82
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    friimynd wrote: »
    oh, i just learned today that the 'hist' are sex-changers... that's a deal breaker for me, not going to grind for a house there
    probably just opt-out of the event altogether, except for crafting node drop bonus, that one isn't too bad, mostly for the alchemist stuff
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    someone mentioned that they quit all the grinding a couple of years ago and just pvp; makes sense
    You can get gold from questing or whatever, pvp dailies? Then if you want to craft something you can just have someone else do it or use the gold to buy craft materials, level up crafter, etc. Never really need to touch a craft node.
    But anyway, it's a game, with different aspects.
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    i'm not even sure how to see what numbers of tickets i have or how to spend them; the guy in the big tent?
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    oh, i had a question, pretty basic; so i got one chest earlier, before the official start of new day, when the daily reward resets. Do i get another chest or do i have to wait 24 hours from when I got the first chest?

    Dailies usually reset at 1 EST.
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    Yeah after the undaunted event becoming pure garbage compared to the way it was before, and now murkmire with it's abysmally low drop rates on extra boxes you can really see how the events are just becoming a way to sell tickets on the store. Which is really sad because events are supposed to be a fun way to get cool extra stuff, but now they're just becoming cashgrabs because you can't realistically get all the stuff you want just by playing anymore.

    Yup. It’s why I edited my sig to include an official warning about this being a play-to-pay game. I mean, it’s been that way for a while, but it keeps getting worse. Apparently it isn’t enough to spend $200 a year on this game - which is what a yearly sub plus the chapter costs in USD. This game is likely making tens of millions just with subs and DLCs alone, but no... apparently that isn’t enough. No, they have to add in greedy free-to-play style cash shop offerings, gambling, and now ruin events with scummery.
  • bossonova420
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    I have to admit I was actually looking forward to this event... I was in summerset with my fisherman getting the recipes in artaeum and doing the quests and so I thought murkmire I will take my fisherman there as well. my orc level 49 master necro anglar is also my master crafter as well.... after a couple days now I have come to the realization that the event is a complete testing grounds for future events.... RNG for the drops, and the first box I received had worms in it???? being a fisherman I was trying not to be offended by it and kept motoring on... and as I kept motoring on I was getting the tickets off of a river troll and not the world bosses but at that point I did not care, after receiving worms in my first box, second box had a fragment of the post, and the third had some sort of object meant to be sold for around 200 gold.... I then realized that the money I put out for the monthly sub. to be here for this event is going to frustrate me and will waste my time as I will have to go to the crown store in order to get more tickets cause I need 35 for either the memento or the voriplasm, I was late to the indrick so no indrick…… reason being is due to the time needed to redownload the whole game in the middle of the event which is even more wasteful planning from Zos.... Quite simply with these things happening I then come to the realization that Zos has been incrementally doing this per event as the last event was another story but similar to this one..... So here is me the fisherman who showed up to the event only to actually be treated better by the worms I farm out of grub boxes all over the place then Zos who orchestrated all of these things to occur... the reality of it all seems almost Lucid in the facts of my story because I am just a fisherman, who came to the event expecting greater things happening but to only be greeted happily by the worms..... after I 100% complete the area cause now I have help with the world bosses I will in the end at least get some fishing done....
  • Rave the Histborn
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.

    A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.

    Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.

    if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.

    so, think of it from a business standpoint.

    have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money

    or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back

    which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.

    They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.

    You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.

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    Events never should have turned into this. Plenty of opportunities to sell limited time crown store only items and leave the event items out of the cash shop.
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    I thought it would be fun to get a silly voriplasm pet, I thought it'd be a laugh to have some mucus following me about. But any joy has been sucked out of this event for me. It's a boring, lazy grindfest designed to funnel players into the poxy cash shop again. I don't want the snot pet anymore, I don't want to participate in any more of these non-events. Maybe I'm just in a low mood, but this has really soured me. Events used to be fun with silly quests to get lots of daffy rewards to trade with mates or sell on. After the awful undaunted event and now this, I fully expect future events to go the same way. If we were grinding for an amazing mount or a house or something, I could get behind it, but it's a pet that looks like phlegm and a plank. I give up, I really do.
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  • PizzaCat82
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.

    A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.

    Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.

    if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.

    so, think of it from a business standpoint.

    have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money

    or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back

    which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.

    They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.

    You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.

    It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    I love how you throw up a screenshot from one guy and act like everythings ok, disregarding the tons of posts made on the subject as just a few people whining on a forum.

    When you reject all evidence and buckle down with your own incorrect data that's what we call arguing in bad faith. You know you're wrong but you don't care. Nothing we can say or show you will change that. The only reason I am even giving you the time of day again is to fight your silly misinformation so that people can see that 1 - They are not the only ones having horrible RNG on these strongboxes, if they even get more than 1. and 2. Having them not tradable and fragments costing 5 tickets is a blatant cash grab.

    There is absolutely not enough tickets or strongboxes to get box items even if you grind 10 hours a day.

    This is misinformation. This is your quote and it's obviously incorrect.

    disregarding the tons of posts made on the subject as just a few people whining on a forum.

    Right now 28,000 people are playing this game at peak and that's just via Steam. It is just a few people whining on a forum.

    "When you reject all evidence and buckle down with your own incorrect data that's what we call arguing in bad faith."

    I love the 'we' speak as if you've appointed yourself to speak for everyone else. Data is data. It's not incorrect simply because you disagree with it.

    1 - They are not the only ones having horrible RNG on these strongboxes

    I'm sure everyone appreciates you caping for them.

    Having them not tradable and fragments costing 5 tickets is a blatant cash grab.

    The only way this would be correct is if your original premise was correct, and it's not. Just because you're not getting lucky doesn't mean there aren't other people having absolutely no problem getting exactly what they are looking for. As I stated earlier, people have been asking for ZOS to stop filling their inventories with worthless crap they can't sell. People have been asking for more things besides Indrik feathers in the impresario since they first started selling feathers. You may not like the result, but these people got what they asked for. How can you say that it is a cash grab when they are giving away more tickets than you need to buy just one of the box items and you've got almost twice the days required that you need to get 1 part per day? Why is there this assumption that everyone even wants to have both items? Most people only care about the pet. Where are the threads whining about Grave Stake memento pieces? When you infer that things are predatory, the implication is that there is some kind of victim. There is a group of people that linger in these forums that take every excuse to pretend that ZOS is victimizing them. You are obviously a part of that group, and you came back because you found some people willing to co-author your salt documentary.
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  • AlnilamE
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.

    A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.

    Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.

    if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.

    so, think of it from a business standpoint.

    have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money

    or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back

    which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.

    They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.

    You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.

    It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.

    Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible
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  • Rave the Histborn
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.

    A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.

    Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.

    if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.

    so, think of it from a business standpoint.

    have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money

    or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back

    which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.

    They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.

    You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.

    It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.

    It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.
  • PizzaCat82
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    In reading some of these responses I don't think people understand the purpose of these events.

    A big part of it is to get people to log back on that left, get engaged in the game again, and resubscribe.

    Logging back on and seeing not only has Zos not changed but they got worse, all it is going to do is make people never come back.

    if you put in a reasonable amount of time, all event specific rewards should be attainable by everyone. That is the whole point. but it is impossible to get all these rewards without buying tickets.

    so, think of it from a business standpoint.

    have event where you dont have to spend 10 hours a day grinding for the rewards and get returning players back into the game and make more money

    or make bad decisions on the event show returning players that they are worse than before and have them never come back

    which one is a smart business decision and which one is a stupid business decision.

    They are attainable by everyone. It is no different from any other event.

    You've clearly never studied business either. It isn't a good decision for everyone to get the rewards in 5 minutes like you want. The event is 12 days long, it needs the majority of the playerbase to be invested in it for it to be successful and making the rewards so easy that you don't need to put in any effort to get them all makes for a terrible event.

    It is possible to get 13 strongboxes for this week and get 0 fragments.

    Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible

    Thats if you can completely download the game in a day, and then you have to choose between the 3rd indrik berry (or more) or 1 of the 2 collectables.

    Its them giving you just enough rope to blame yourself if you don't get everything.. even though its all driven by RNG, clearly in attempt to get people to use the crown store to get tickets.

    The last 3 events have tended toward them wanting "unlucky" people to buy tickets for event rewards, but lucky for us we could spend millions of gold to buy the rewards from other players.
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible

    It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.

    As far as going all in on tickets for one of the collectibles: A lot of people are going to want to buy one of the berries, because they already have sunk costs on berries from the previous events. The cap on tickets kind of ensures that. Which puts the margins to pretty low if your luck is poor.
    And people started complaining on day 1 because with almost all previous collectibles, parts were tradeable. It's a huge insurance policy against bad luck. And unlike the past 3 events where you might not have had the tickets/drops to get all the outfit styles, those individual style pages were usable on their own, whereas here, if you end up with 5 parts of a collectible? You don't have anything you can 'use' in game. People are complaining because this and the existing drop rates leaves them anxious.
    It's a big shift from when tickets first came out and the expectation was that if you were on every day and paid attention and a little bit of time, you could get everything from the event and then some.
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible

    It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.

    As far as going all in on tickets for one of the collectibles: A lot of people are going to want to buy one of the berries, because they already have sunk costs on berries from the previous events. The cap on tickets kind of ensures that. Which puts the margins to pretty low if your luck is poor.
    And people started complaining on day 1 because with almost all previous collectibles, parts were tradeable. It's a huge insurance policy against bad luck. And unlike the past 3 events where you might not have had the tickets/drops to get all the outfit styles, those individual style pages were usable on their own, whereas here, if you end up with 5 parts of a collectible? You don't have anything you can 'use' in game. People are complaining because this and the existing drop rates leaves them anxious.
    It's a big shift from when tickets first came out and the expectation was that if you were on every day and paid attention and a little bit of time, you could get everything from the event and then some.

    Thank you. Its a big change.. I've had to buy the pieces I've needed since Christmas, I've created a thread almost every event since they keep creeping towards required ticket purchase.
    If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already
    The drop rate on the second box is ridiculously low. Playing more doesn't seem to do a whole lot to increase the boxes you get, so telling people to go out there and work harder just sounds like some republican pipe-dream meant to pull us all up by our bootstraps.

    I've grinded more than you, that I can guarantee. I work from home. I have over 50 murkmire motifs so far from doing dailies. I've farmed bosses. I've farmed dungeons. Dont you dare talk to me about grinding.
  • Rave the Histborn
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Even if that were the case, you would still get 39 tickets while you are getting those boxes, plus however many you started the event with. You need 35 tickets to buy a full pet if you end up being that unlucky but still want the collectible

    It's also possible to get 13 strong boxes and 14 fragments so I'm not sure what your point is. The event lasts for 12 days. This thread popped up on day 1 complaining about the fragments. If the people in it stopped whining and actually played the game they'd have it already.

    As far as going all in on tickets for one of the collectibles: A lot of people are going to want to buy one of the berries, because they already have sunk costs on berries from the previous events. The cap on tickets kind of ensures that. Which puts the margins to pretty low if your luck is poor.
    And people started complaining on day 1 because with almost all previous collectibles, parts were tradeable. It's a huge insurance policy against bad luck. And unlike the past 3 events where you might not have had the tickets/drops to get all the outfit styles, those individual style pages were usable on their own, whereas here, if you end up with 5 parts of a collectible? You don't have anything you can 'use' in game. People are complaining because this and the existing drop rates leaves them anxious.
    It's a big shift from when tickets first came out and the expectation was that if you were on every day and paid attention and a little bit of time, you could get everything from the event and then some.

    BoP fragments aren't really the reason this thread was started because people did the same crying about the drop rate on Legion Zero pages and those were tradeable.

    You have 9 days left in the event. You can very easily afford to get a spectral berry AND both the rune fragments even with very poor luck.
  • xaraan
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    The events are really starting to go way south. And the grind is getting worse and worse.

    My problem is, once it gets to a point where I can't reasonably earn something (and I put a decent amount of time into this game), then I just say forget it and move on. That happens to enough things in a game, and eventually I say it to the whole game.

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  • mocap
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    who needs these events? Other than those who like to complain about it...
  • Sylas_Orin
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    Kahnak wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
    People have been complaining about not being able to buy more things with the tickets they have - ZOS added the pet/memento items to the impresario.

    People have been complaining that they can't get loot from bosses because people are killing them to fast or their computers can't handle the strain with 50 players all using abilities in the same place - ZOS changed the prerequisite to any monster at all to spread out player concentration.

    People have been complaining that they've got a bunch of useless items in their inventory that they can't sell and are just taking up inventory space - ZOS makes the fragments into collectibles.

    ZOS is giving you people what you're asking for and now you're complaining because it's not the exact way you feel like it should be. There is plenty of time and there are plenty of tickets being provided for you to get everything out of the event if you participate. If ZOS was really that concerned about making money, they would have simply put the voriplasm pet in the crown store and forgone the whole fragment thing altogether - it's obvious people really want it.

    people are complaining because the drop rate is so horrible that it is literally impossible to get the pet and emote so the only way to do it is to buy and sell doubles which they cant do that either.

    if the drop rate was reasonable people wouldnt be complaining. Zos is in the wrong. They screwed up.


    people are complaining because the drop rate is so horrible that it is literally impossible to get the pet and emote so the only way to do it is to buy and sell doubles which they cant do that either.

    There are people that are getting two memento/pet parts in strongboxes and there are people who had the pet by the end of the first day. This is obviously not true.

    if the drop rate was reasonable people wouldnt be complaining. Zos is in the wrong. They screwed up.

    "If the drop rate was what I think the drop rate should be, I wouldn't be here complaining."

    There, fixed it.

    In case it is not obvious, it is entirely possible to dump a lot of Crowns on tickets. So who is to say those people that had the pet or gravestake on the first day didn't do just that?

    I find it unrealistic, with the large samplesize of abyssmal drops, that someone could have gotten it through gameplay so quickly.
    Former completionist with all achievements unlocked up until Update 29 (Flames of Ambition). Avid RPer, writer, and former Breton lover. Then Legacy of the Bretons was released and I realized just how boring and uninspired the Bretons are according to the writers.
  • mattaeus01b16_ESO
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    mocap wrote: »
    who needs these events? Other than those who like to complain about it...

    Well they use to be a fun community event where we could help each other out with collecting minor achievements and vanity items. You know, something to ENJOY... .Not get *** on. The way this drop crap is happening, they should have made it a permanent part of the zone that people could come at their leisure and farm. Instead of put on a timeline with the option to BUY OUT as it were.
    Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
    Player 2 "Huh?"
    Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
    Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
    Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
    Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
    Player 1 has left the group...
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    All of you are complaining, but at least you didn't get blocked by a friend over the event.

    That, my friends, is beyond disappointing.
  • jm42
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    wait, you guys just want to get all of the event rewards guaranteed by spending 5 minutes a day and hitting a delve boss one time? am I right? I think you should just stop playing any mmorpgs to not be disappointed
    Edited by jm42 on February 23, 2020 10:39AM
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