Very disappointed in Murkmire event, and recent events.

CallmeFishmeal

With the launch of the Murkmire event, I've seen a pattern that ZOS has been leaning towards these past couple of events. To simply put it, these events are turning into cash grabs for ZOS. Before the Murkmire event started, I couldn't wait to get a voriplasm pet cause I think they look really cool! (Like Flubber or something.) On the second day of the event, I realized that it will be impossible for me to obtain the pet unless I use real money to buy crowns and pay for the individual parts from the impresario, which I refuse to do. One reason is the event is too short to even collect all the fragments. Secondly, not only do the voriplasm pet fragments drop, but also some dumb memento that I'll never use. Thirdly, the drop rate for anything good is so low that it's frustrating. I feel like ZOS is trolling us out of our time and money. Don't get me wrong, I like participating in the events and playing the game in general, but I don't want to spend 5+ hours grinding in Murkmire in hopes to get a decent drop. I just want to kill a WB, do a delve, get my tickets and a well deserved fragment, and move on with my game. Same with the previous events, grinding for hours in Imperial Sewers - Midyear Mayhem - and dungeons - Undaunted - in hopes to get a new Style Page when the drop rates were ridiculously low. I will only have enough to tickets to get the berries and feathers, but nothing else the impresario offers. Why would ZOS say "earn a voriplasm pet, and memento" when it's impossible to get them without spending crowns/real money, or literally not sleep to grind for endless hours? Doesn't seem like "earning" them in my opinion. I've played only in Murkmire since the event began, mostly dailies, catching up on overlooked quests, and farming nodes, and have only got 1 memento fragment. Maybe I'm just ranting about my awful RNG, but I feel like if we want to get the rewards possible from this event, we have to spend real money, which is rather disappointing. (And no, I'm not spending my hard earned gold to buy crowns either. ZOS just needs to be fair with their events and make them fun and rewarding.)

Katahdin

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

AyeshaBelladonna

yup. i mean, weapon style pages that were like new and improved versions of stuff that was really pricey for crowns i saw as worth my tickets. pet fragments that should have a guaranteed drop 1st box of the day (Like EVERY OTHER EVENT with like type of things) and those fragments like the apple bobbing cauldron among others should be traceable. This is getting ridiculous.

Mr_Walker

Agreed. I used to mostly enjoy events, but I know when I'm getting jerked around.

They'll not get a crown out of me for their "collectibles".

geonsocal

I'm glad I figured out what I like about eso...and, what I don't like...

I got off the grind trail about 2 years ago...stopped crafting, selling with guild traders, group dungeons, doing quests and - participating in most of the events...

at this point I'm not even sure how many costumes, style pages/outfits, mounts, non combat pets and mementos I even have...it's a lot though...

I like to pvp...mementos and non combat pets are useless there...and, for that I'm glad...

Rave the Histborn

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

With the launch of the Murkmire event, I've seen a pattern that ZOS has been leaning towards these past couple of events. To simply put it, these events are turning into cash grabs for ZOS. Before the Murkmire event started, I couldn't wait to get a voriplasm pet cause I think they look really cool! (Like Flubber or something.) On the second day of the event, I realized that it will be impossible for me to obtain the pet unless I use real money to buy crowns and pay for the individual parts from the impresario, which I refuse to do. One reason is the event is too short to even collect all the fragments. Secondly, not only do the voriplasm pet fragments drop, but also some dumb memento that I'll never use. Thirdly, the drop rate for anything good is so low that it's frustrating. I feel like ZOS is trolling us out of our time and money. Don't get me wrong, I like participating in the events and playing the game in general, but I don't want to spend 5+ hours grinding in Murkmire in hopes to get a decent drop. I just want to kill a WB, do a delve, get my tickets and a well deserved fragment, and move on with my game. Same with the previous events, grinding for hours in Imperial Sewers - Midyear Mayhem - and dungeons - Undaunted - in hopes to get a new Style Page when the drop rates were ridiculously low. I will only have enough to tickets to get the berries and feathers, but nothing else the impresario offers. Why would ZOS say "earn a voriplasm pet, and memento" when it's impossible to get them without spending crowns/real money, or literally not sleep to grind for endless hours? Doesn't seem like "earning" them in my opinion. I've played only in Murkmire since the event began, mostly dailies, catching up on overlooked quests, and farming nodes, and have only got 1 memento fragment. Maybe I'm just ranting about my awful RNG, but I feel like if we want to get the rewards possible from this event, we have to spend real money, which is rather disappointing. (And no, I'm not spending my hard earned gold to buy crowns either. ZOS just needs to be fair with their events and make them fun and rewarding.)

There's more than enough time to collect all the fragments still. The forums are like the news, you only hear the worst of the worst and none of it really reflects the reality of the situation.

Rave the Histborn

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

FierceSam

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

Rave the Histborn

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

Elari

Sorry for my bad English :-)

Hi everybody,

I missed the first day.
Killed the one World Boss yesterday and today... every time I got the 3 event tickets and a box and in every box was a plasma - part.

And I don't even know how much damage I am doing or if it was special luck.

mikikatze

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

100% chance from world bosses

Even the devs said that's not true.

Dusk_Coven

Theoretically you can get enough tickets to buy ONE thing. They don't come out and say it but I guess that's how the event is meant to work. The rest, you can hope the event is re-run.
"Can't have everything" seems to be the idea here, so that they can re-run the event and have it relevant again without having to create a new thing to add to the reward lineup.

FierceSam

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

The very definition of the difference between fact and apocrypha

You may have got 3 out of 3, but it doesn’t mean the drop rate is 100%. It isn’t. There are plenty of people who have killed World Bosses who have not received a strongbox.

Garish

I really dislike this events RNG element. That there is a CHANCE of NOT getting tickets is absolutely unacceptable. The strongboxes have crap contents. You cannot even exchange the fragments for the pet and memento.

Events are supposed to be an enjoyable extra bit in the game with rewards for participating. I realise the way it is now is so we will buy tickets from the store, but I absolutely refuse to be channelled towards the store. If that means I have to miss out on the gravestake memento and voriplasm pet, then so be it. I will buy from the store when and what -I- want to buy.

This is why I never have and never will buy a crown crate either. Because I am so against 1, the gambling aspect and 2, the double currency.

Poor show, ZOS, poor show! Shame on you!

madman65

I have been doing the dailies in Murkmire just for the the tickets. Well now i`m not even getting the tickets and yes I watch the timers reset. One more nail in the coffin!

Rave the Histborn

mikikatze wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

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100% chance from world bosses

Even the devs said that's not true.

Murkmire Strongbox

To earn these new reward boxes, simply explore and quest in the zone. Strongboxes will drop after completing activities such as defeating monsters or boss monsters, looting treasure chests, safeboxes, Thieves Troves, Psijic portals or other containers, or even by harvesting Crafting Resource nodes. No matter how you play, you can earn these new boxes!

You can gain Murkmire Strongboxes once per day (with a small chance of grabbing additional ones as drops).

Oh wow, it's poorly worded but it sounds just like every other event they've done. Tell you what, you keep killing swamp jellies and if I don't have a 100% drop rate from the world bosses I'll update this for you.

FierceSam

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

mikikatze wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

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100% chance from world bosses

Even the devs said that's not true.

Murkmire Strongbox

To earn these new reward boxes, simply explore and quest in the zone. Strongboxes will drop after completing activities such as defeating monsters or boss monsters, looting treasure chests, safeboxes, Thieves Troves, Psijic portals or other containers, or even by harvesting Crafting Resource nodes. No matter how you play, you can earn these new boxes!

You can gain Murkmire Strongboxes once per day (with a small chance of grabbing additional ones as drops).

Oh wow, it's poorly worded but it sounds just like every other event they've done. Tell you what, you keep killing swamp jellies and if I don't have a 100% drop rate from the world bosses I'll update this for you.

None of these guarantee a drop. You don’t get a strongbox from every treasure chest for instance. And plenty of people haven’t got a drop from a World Boss.

And you can’t kill swamp jellies. You just loot them.

Don’t let reality (or facts) get in the way of your personal experience though.

Rave the Histborn

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

The very definition of the difference between fact and apocrypha

You may have got 3 out of 3, but it doesn’t mean the drop rate is 100%. It isn’t. There are plenty of people who have killed World Bosses who have not received a strongbox.

No. The drop rate on the world bosses is 100% if you get to loot them.

You're trying to count people fighting the bosses that aren't even getting the loot drop at all. If you're not able to loot it doesn't count.

Commancho

Grind, grind, more grind. Grind is life!!!

Dusk_Coven

madman65 wrote: »

I have been doing the dailies in Murkmire just for the the tickets. Well now i`m not even getting the tickets and yes I watch the timers reset. One more nail in the coffin!

You know the quest turn-in is not related to tickets, right? You do get double box rewards though. Killing things on the way should have found you tickets though.

Tommy_The_Gun

Tbh. It feels like Murkmire always has bad luck. It is a beautiful and arguable one of the best zones, but somehow it feels like it is (and this may sound very bad) an unwanted beautiful child that parents (ZOS) are experimenting on.
1. It was supposed to be much larger, full size zone. But, it was scraped and assets were re-used in Shadow of The Hist and Dark Brotherhood DLCs.
2. It was given for free as a daily reward. Maybe ZOS was simply "testing the waters", or maybe there was another reason. Maybe they thought that no one will buy it, or maybe they wanted to scrape as it was messing their "entire year story" concept.
3. Racial Rebalance - It may or may not be connected, but it was literality the next update after Murkmire. And Argonians got screwed pretty hard. So any one who for example created new character for the Murkmire - was kinda screwed.
4. And now... an anniversary... Murkmire anniversary and its "Event". It could not be this badly designed by accident. It can't be. I refuse to believe in this. The Event was designed most likely by the Monetisation team. There is no other way that an experienced mmo game developers make event like this. What this event basically is - it is another "experiment" (just like Murkmire DLC as a login reward) to see how far they can go.
5. And this event is somehow placed in the middle of the game re-download... Another thing that can not be a coincidence and a proof that Monetization team was behind it.

Beautiful, immersive zone with top-notch quest & story design, used as a testing grounds for a terrible Monetization ideas. It almost feels like it is this zone is catering to the "whales" (or at lest ZOS thinks that way).

tennyoelf

I’m playing the event with a friend, we do two WBs together, and I’ve never gotten a second strongbox (the golden boxes) from the second WB. The first I do because you’re guaranteed one once a day.

I use to love these events, but the last few have been...tedious and not very fun in regards to how we get the rewards. Since I’m somewhat of a completionist these few events have grated/annoyed me deeply.

Add the nerf to Iceheart, nerfing it to sell their DLC, and these obvious cash grabs, I’m just really demoralized atm. This game means a lot to me but making these decisions purely based on monetizing as much as possible just kills the festive mood. I rather they put these things up on the crown store for X amount and only during the event. Instead it feels like they’re putting a false carrot in front of us that many won’t be able to get.

I get that ESO needs money to run and I do pay the subscription monthly, but it just feels like a bit much? Are they in desperate need to hit some kind of money goal and they aren’t getting close enough so they have to push these things on us? Doing so though will end up turning the game sour for some and those players will stop playing, it’s short sighted...but if it meets their short term goals?? Idk. If money is truly the case they should go back to mandatory subscription fees after a free trial period or something.

These events were fun before. I enjoyed them, even as recent as the New Life festival. I’m just sad now. I hope future events will be better. For now, I’m getting tickets for berries and feathers and staying rather annoyed.

CaPeRKiNG77

And what do u do when no event tickets or strongbox at all drop for u at all and support tells you to "grind some more". I'm done with ESO if I don't get my tickets and I'll take my 500 member guild with me. I know i will not renew eso plus after this.

CallmeFishmeal

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

The very definition of the difference between fact and apocrypha

You may have got 3 out of 3, but it doesn’t mean the drop rate is 100%. It isn’t. There are plenty of people who have killed World Bosses who have not received a strongbox.

No. The drop rate on the world bosses is 100% if you get to loot them.

You're trying to count people fighting the bosses that aren't even getting the loot drop at all. If you're not able to loot it doesn't count.

Not true man. I've killed Walks Like Thunder like 50 times and each time I did get to loot I never received not even 1 strongbox. Mine have came from regular mobs in the zone. And the strong boxes contain a 100 gold treasure. But, that's just been my experience. Glad it seems to be working out for you!

redgreensunset

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

1) Your anecdotal evidence does not counter that even the devs said it's not a 100% droprate from WBs.
2) Only the top 12 damage dealers gets anything at all from a WB. Considering that 30+ people camp them less than half will get anything at all, and healers and tanks have zero chance of anything. So even if it was a 100% it wouldn't work for a lot of people.

redgreensunset

Addition:
The ZOS defenders saying there's more than enough time are conveniently forgetting that per Monday we will all have to redownload the game, which will mean that a lot of players will miss somewhere from a day to a week of playing in the middle of the event.
Please explain to me again how there's "enough time to get everything without spending money"?

Varana

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

But even if that were the case, not every strongbox (by far!) contains any of the pet/memento parts.
From my two boxes on Thursday and Friday, I got exactly 0 (zero) of the collectible parts.

DLM

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

The very definition of the difference between fact and apocrypha

You may have got 3 out of 3, but it doesn’t mean the drop rate is 100%. It isn’t. There are plenty of people who have killed World Bosses who have not received a strongbox.

No. The drop rate on the world bosses is 100% if you get to loot them.

You're trying to count people fighting the bosses that aren't even getting the loot drop at all. If you're not able to loot it doesn't count.

I have looted a bunch of WBs. And NEVER EVER got an extra box from them.

So get out with your misinformation or your obvious trolling, they are NOT a guaranteed drop from WBs.

Eyllora

To those who say that the world bosses drop strongbox 100%, I can confirm that it's completely wrong.
I looted many world bosses, and early morning when there are like 5 persons fighting them, I didn't get any stongboxes from them.
The event announcement clearly states that strongboxes can drop from WB, aswell as almost everything else you can loot, kill, but not guaranteed.
My own personal strongboxes (4) are full of worms and "treasures", 2 pieces of memento so far (1 of each), and that's it.

If you get strongboxes, and they're including mementos, 100% of the time, you're just super lucky, and that's good for you Continue to kill, loot and then, pleeeease post funny pictures of you and the mementos at the end of the event, cos we won't see a lot of them !!


I have my tickets for my berry, I'll get 10 more for next time, and I'm done with this event. I was expecting it to be funny, a good excuse to explore Murkmire, that I don't really know yet, but the way the event is designed just makes me feel like it's everything but eventful and funny.
There aren't even enough resources on the map to make harvest time valuable with double drop, I'd rather pick on starting islands, or Craglorn.

Would be time for ZOS to rethink their way of getting money from us, or of trying to keep us ingame, cos they are doing the absolute opposite with such event !

Mr_Walker

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Pretty much how I feel about it

Im sick of grinding things and when you have a 1% chance to get a box out of 100 things killed, I just dont have time for it.
Also not going to spend that much $$ for tickets for a pet, no matter how different it is from the normal stuff we have.

100% chance from world bosses

So not true

I'm currently 3/3 once a day so yes, so very true. Don't misinform people because you'd rather kill swamp jellies.

Not true at all. I killed 2 WBs first day for no tix or boxes.

Hanokihs

Lol if they really wanted to squeeze money out of us, they'd just do the pearlescent weapons thing again, but instead of blue with a hint of rainbows, they'd be green. And there'd be eight million of them again, making it impossible to get em all even if we don't buy berries with the tickets. "I thought they were ugly so..." many of you may say. Doesn't matter, they still sold like hotcakes.

I feel like this is an event just because it's time for an event, most people ignore Murkmire, and putting something more interesting on during the patch process will exponentially increase the level of QQ on the forums.

Either way, it's better than them running the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood events again.