A vast majority of players want free port or port reduction fee tickets/vouchers

darthgummibear_ESO

xbobx15 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...

so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?

Is 146g really too much?

to some people it is. I don't care but whats the harm ?

Port cost is one of the only consistent gold sinks the game has outside of outfit stuff which is used by pretty much everyone. It's not going anywhere.

snoozy

Mettaricana wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Two words:

Player housing.

Works for me!

And those port fees put gold in the pockets of the Khajiit mages who cast their portal spells to take players to distant wayshrines so they don't have to use their own feet to walk to the nearest wayshrine. Think of those adorable little young Khajiit faces looking mournfully up with their big sad teary eyes at their Khajiit parents, opening their mouths weakly and pointing inside with their cute Khajiit paws. "I'm hungry!" How will their mommies and daddies be able to afford to feed them if they can no longer collect all that nice, shiny gold from those lazy customers?

So i gotta loading screen to house then loading screen out of house to loading screen using wayshrine to get to location but thats fine.... you weird bruh I'm all for free shrines the new life and jesterfest are enough to make me never want to port again...

THIS. the gold is not the issue, the tons of additional loading screens are.
finally someone who gets it.

i really want a wayshrine furnishing...

or a direct recall out of dungeons and delves at least.

the could also make the "respawn point" wayshrine in dungeons and delves have full wayshrine functionality.. when i'm too lazy to walk i usually just get killed to respawn at wayshrine.

sadly i think they aren't gonna do anything about it bc it is an intended gold sink

BackStabeth

El_Borracho wrote: »

Huh. I had no idea that the optional cost of 146 in video game gold to port to a wayshrine was actually a part of an over-arching conspiracy by greedy capitalist video game producers to separate me from my paycheck. Nor was I aware that the housing market in Tamriel was run by oligarchs seeking to make a profit on the proletariat.

Fortunately, I showed them by using a widely known, advertised, and often used secret, unknown method of porting to a friend or guildmate for free. Or, in desperate times, porting to the free apartment I also received in the game.

Check mate, evil overlords!!

Porting to a friend is a great option, porting to a house close to where you want to go like the snugpod for example when you want to do undaunted pledges, another good option. Sarcasm aside, if you port to your house, and then wish to port somewhere else it's not 146 gp, it's a lot more. If you port to your house, and then port to another, a lot more.

There is no doubt there are some work around methods, you can get a house close to a wayshrine and then hotkey it, port there then use the wayshrine. But if people are already circumventing the issues created to make things miserable on purpose so you pay for convenience, then why have them at all? What is the point in having these game mechanics intended to create unwanted hassle and time take so much time if people just circumvent them anyway?

On a side note, your friends or guildmates are not on the other side of the hill for you to port to the wayshrine you want. Matter of fact, you don't know what wayshrine they are at so you take a chance and if they are not where you want to go, you wayshrine again, all that added extra time. That doesn't make for a game that is casual, casual players would spend far too much time porting around circumventing the cost of doing so, or too much time running around and not playing.

I do know the way things function currently, they are not optimal for players at all. Personally I don't like knowing, and feeling, that ZoS has employed all these annoying frustrating things on purpose so that I pay more for convenience.

I understand that being sarcastic and seemingly clever with your choice of words might be fun but it's certainly not constructive. Maybe try being a little less facetious, you might not take any of this seriously but some people do.

Chaos2088

On PC there is an addon that goes through your friends and guild lists for you to port to where you want to go to. (for free)

Foxhearted

I already have free port. It's called porting to guild mates/friends.
If you're on PC, theres an addon that makes it even easier.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Meanwhile here I am turning toggle walk on and casually strolling across the entire world.

Hallothiel

Oh my god just port to a free /cheap & bought with gold house, travel to a guildmate or just bloody well walk. Might even enjoy the scenery & find something interesting as you do.

Why does everything have to be done quick quick quick?! Learn patience 😉

Kahnak

snoozy wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Two words:

Player housing.

Works for me!

And those port fees put gold in the pockets of the Khajiit mages who cast their portal spells to take players to distant wayshrines so they don't have to use their own feet to walk to the nearest wayshrine. Think of those adorable little young Khajiit faces looking mournfully up with their big sad teary eyes at their Khajiit parents, opening their mouths weakly and pointing inside with their cute Khajiit paws. "I'm hungry!" How will their mommies and daddies be able to afford to feed them if they can no longer collect all that nice, shiny gold from those lazy customers?

So i gotta loading screen to house then loading screen out of house to loading screen using wayshrine to get to location but thats fine.... you weird bruh I'm all for free shrines the new life and jesterfest are enough to make me never want to port again...

THIS. the gold is not the issue, the tons of additional loading screens are.
finally someone who gets it.

i really want a wayshrine furnishing...

or a direct recall out of dungeons and delves at least.

the could also make the "respawn point" wayshrine in dungeons and delves have full wayshrine functionality.. when i'm too lazy to walk i usually just get killed to respawn at wayshrine.

sadly i think they aren't gonna do anything about it bc it is an intended gold sink

If that is the issue, why is this thread about free ports and vouchers? Free ports and vouchers aren't going to resolve the issues that people have with loading screens.

Additionally, part of the reason we are all having to re-download the game is to help remedy that specific issue, among others.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

Not all houses are near wayshrines and even those that are you end up having to go through 2 load screens to get to your final destination. If load screens were a matter of a few seconds it wouldn't be so much of a problem but load screens aren't a few seconds. There is also the ever present risk of hitting an infinite load screen so the fewer you have to do the lower the risk. I can agree having a free port out of the house by itself isn't necessarily the best way to handle the situation and think creating a household wayshrine would be a better solution. While I wouldn't buy one for all of my houses there are a few where I would spend Crowns to not have to go through 2 load screens and/or travel long distances to a regular wayshrine.

Reverb

I’ve literally never heard anyone asking for this in game. Only a few forum whiners. I don’t think “majority” means what you think it means.

ayu_fever

give eso+ sub perk 3 free teleports a day.
any unused free ports do not stack.
resets daily when we get our enlightenment.

ZonasArch

Please, show proof for "vast majority of players".

idk

ShawnLaRock wrote: »

You lost me at your unfounded claim of, “a vast majority of players.”

Yea, I saw this the same way.

To begin with it is so easy to port around Tamriel for free.

BackStabeth

Hallothiel wrote: »

Oh my god just port to a free /cheap & bought with gold house, travel to a guildmate or just bloody well walk. Might even enjoy the scenery & find something interesting as you do.

Why does everything have to be done quick quick quick?! Learn patience 😉

That's all fine when you have the time to stroll through the world like you are holding hands with your lover. Problem is, some people do not have the luxury every time they play to slow mode it. You might, but not everyone does. And you have to admit the wayshrine thing is a pain in the butt, and done so with intent and purpose.

Imagine, paying for a game where the developers make things frustrating and overly cumbersome so that you are annoyed, on purpose, just to get you to shell out more cash. Can you imagine people sitting around a table, thinking of ways to squeeze you for more pennies by making things annoying and frustrating?

You might be perfectly fine with all these things, maybe the things that interest you also do not require too much travel, or maybe you are just one of those people never bothered or frustrated by anything, my hat off to you. But many of us find it old, tired and boring. We want better from ZoS and the developers and those making the decisions. I imagine that's the very reason for this post.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could port to any wayshrine at any given time with no fees or penalties? Or are you saying you enjoy being charged every time you want to port to a wayshrine from somewhere in the world? And sure, there are workarounds, unintended ways to circumvent the game's travel mechanics, but if that's true and most people do it then what is the point in charging people for traveling to wayshrines at all?

I'm not on board with charging people to use wayshrines, I think it's just really bad game design.

Nomadic_Atmoran

Kahnak wrote: »

snoozy wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Two words:

Player housing.

Works for me!

And those port fees put gold in the pockets of the Khajiit mages who cast their portal spells to take players to distant wayshrines so they don't have to use their own feet to walk to the nearest wayshrine. Think of those adorable little young Khajiit faces looking mournfully up with their big sad teary eyes at their Khajiit parents, opening their mouths weakly and pointing inside with their cute Khajiit paws. "I'm hungry!" How will their mommies and daddies be able to afford to feed them if they can no longer collect all that nice, shiny gold from those lazy customers?

So i gotta loading screen to house then loading screen out of house to loading screen using wayshrine to get to location but thats fine.... you weird bruh I'm all for free shrines the new life and jesterfest are enough to make me never want to port again...

THIS. the gold is not the issue, the tons of additional loading screens are.
finally someone who gets it.

i really want a wayshrine furnishing...

or a direct recall out of dungeons and delves at least.

the could also make the "respawn point" wayshrine in dungeons and delves have full wayshrine functionality.. when i'm too lazy to walk i usually just get killed to respawn at wayshrine.

sadly i think they aren't gonna do anything about it bc it is an intended gold sink

If that is the issue, why is this thread about free ports and vouchers? Free ports and vouchers aren't going to resolve the issues that people have with loading screens.

Additionally, part of the reason we are all having to re-download the game is to help remedy that specific issue, among others.

This is the part where their original argument has fallen apart under scrutiny and they desperately look for an alternative narrative as for why this is a good idea.

Bradyfjord

There are things that ZOS should really work on, like server performance. But you want to make this an issue?

I think some people don't understand the genre.

Hurbster

ESO already has one of the most convenient fast travel systems going.

phermitgb

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

snip for relevance...

The idea isn't even really about saving gold, it's more game immersion. Is it needed? No. Would it be used? Yes. It just seems like an obvious feature IMO.

You want immersion? How about NO wayshrines. Have to travel everywhere. Honestly, when it comes to immersion, I prefer having to travel. I miss LOTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) - spent a terrible amount of time traveling from one location to another, but every step I took emphasized the enormity of the regions, and everything just felt...more distinctive to me. Especially Moria. Loved/hated moria. Before fast travel goats, that place was a NIGHTMARE to navigate - but it was a beautiful, wonderful, extravagant nightmare that I miss dearly.

Anyway, from an "immersion" perspective, I think increasing the size of each zone by 10 and removing the wayshrines would be the steps in the right direction to take.

Kaartinen

Purchase a house with a wayshrine nearby or join guilds and teleport to players for free.

The fee is to inact a goldsink for the luxury of immediately teleporting to the location you'd like.

As stated, there are simple workarounds that take a moment longer, and in turn cost nothing.

sedi

It's good for new players to 'unlock' fast access to the world as they go along. I for one enjoyed it before I joined a guild and started to port to guildies for free.

Alienoutlaw

never had to pay for a port ever, and i would say the "vast majority" of players know how to port via friends or guild roster or simply ask for a "taxi" in zone.

ChimpyChumpy

Use easy travel addon

Wolf_Eye

xbobx15 wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Who is this "vast majority"?

146 is cheap, and honestly wayshrines are everywhere. Owning all the inn rooms isn't that expensive to do, and it's a free wayshrine in lots of major cities.

That's true, but I'd rather just eat the 146 gold than 2 load screens

i keep a book by the couch, i read during loading screens. Usually 3 to 4 loading screens will be one chapter.

Loading screens are also a perfect opportunity to get up and stretch. Deep vein thrombosis is a life threatening problem that often affects gamers; blood pools up in the legs and threatens to create blood clots unless you move your legs.

Moving your legs once every hour for a few minutes is the recommended way of avoiding DVT.

Veinblood1965

I'm not in favor of eliminating the fees for port costs, even the 146 gold. I like the fact that ESO isn't like other games where you just pick a port spot and go. It's kind of neat to have to consider your porting options when running delves or surveys, I don't even really mind too much the having to load a few screens when using my Snugpod. My point to the post is not to have TONS of free port vouchers flooding the game, just something similar to bounty reduction vouchers. You don't accumulate too many of those when running Thieves or Dark Brotherhood dailies but just enough to come in handy once in a while. My thought is it would be a nice enhancement to maybe some upcoming line of quest types, just enough to make it nice to use one once in a while but not enough to be expected.

As for vast majority I was in Murkmire on holiday last year and had posed the question at the Eager Skeever bar and grill and after buying a few rounds of drinks everyone there was on board with the idea.

jadarock

ArchMikem wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...

so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?

Is 146g really too much?

Yeah imagine whining about 146 gold that could be paid by picking up some trash or idk use player housing they gave us?... Of all the things in game that need addressed this is not one of them

StormeReigns

I speak for Vas T. Maj O'Rity
They are not Khajiit, but actually Nord, raised by Imperials. They disagree with the OP.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

This seems like a complicated solution to something that is barely a problem. lThe last thing I need is something else clogging up my inventory.

They could fix any issues possibly associated with this by simply putting a wayshrine furnishing in the crown store.

I also highly recommend the Beam Me Up addon. That and one max guild will solve all your problems if you are on PC.

Gilvoth

ZonasArch wrote: »

Please, show proof for "vast majority of players".

Exactly!
fake thread.

Iarao

xbobx15 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...

so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?

just use a friend or guildmate that is online to port out. not in a decent sized guild? your problem.

Iarao

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

If you are on PC use one of the several addons that allow you to port to guildmates from the command line...

Easytravel, you just type /tp (insert zone) and so long as there is a guild member there, boom you port away.

You can also use the inexpensive player houses for most zones.

If you are on console or don't want to use addons, just go to guild menu, go to roster, select a player and port to them.

I can't tell you the last time I actually ported with a fee.

yes. basically free hovels. simple quest. you will always have a way out.