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A vast majority of players want free port or port reduction fee tickets/vouchers
Veinblood1965
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9 out of 10 Khajit's surveyed want this. How about something similar to parden edicts, but port reduction cost edicts obtained from various sources.
Edited by Veinblood1965 on February 13, 2020 8:19PM 8
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Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭or just remove port fees because - why?
or put a wayshrine in the crown store as a furnishing like so many people asked for.
Hey, if you can buy a portal that Cadwell can use to pop in and do a dance, why can you use a portal to tele out of.Edited by Brandathorbel on February 13, 2020 7:52PM20 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...Edited by Siohwenoeht on February 13, 2020 7:54PM"It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard36 -
RD065✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
Because others just want to go go go. No time to take 4 steps to the left and use a wayshine.23 -
Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?12 -
mikemacon✭✭✭✭✭you can travel to a house you own for free. many have wayshrines pretty much right next door.31 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Two words:
Player housing.
Works for me!
And those port fees put gold in the pockets of the Khajiit mages who cast their portal spells to take players to distant wayshrines so they don't have to use their own feet to walk to the nearest wayshrine. Think of those adorable little young Khajiit faces looking mournfully up with their big sad teary eyes at their Khajiit parents, opening their mouths weakly and pointing inside with their cute Khajiit paws. "I'm hungry!" How will their mommies and daddies be able to afford to feed them if they can no longer collect all that nice, shiny gold from those lazy customers?I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!16 -
CaffeinatedMayhem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Who is this "vast majority"?
146 is cheap, and honestly wayshrines are everywhere. Owning all the inn rooms isn't that expensive to do, and it's a free wayshrine in lots of major cities.25 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Join a guild and port to a guild member who is where you want to be for free. Problem solved.18 -
JadonSky✭✭✭✭✭Is 146 gold really that expensive for people, i mean unless your porting back to back to back in which I would think after the first port you would be near a wayshrine to port again. Walk and enjoy the scenery its one of the many things that makes this game great.12 -
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✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?
Most delve bosses are right by the exit anyway, and as far as dungeons go, if you're running them, you can afford the 146 gold to port lol.
If you're porting constantly, which is the only time the price climbs, I don't know what to tell you."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard5 -
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✭✭CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »Who is this "vast majority"?
146 is cheap, and honestly wayshrines are everywhere. Owning all the inn rooms isn't that expensive to do, and it's a free wayshrine in lots of major cities.
That's true, but I'd rather just eat the 146 gold than 2 load screens5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?
Is 146g really too much?CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?
You can port to a friend/guildy or pay 143 gold. Adding a voucher really wouldn't help you6 -
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✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »Two words:
Player housing.
Works for me!
And those port fees put gold in the pockets of the Khajiit mages who cast their portal spells to take players to distant wayshrines so they don't have to use their own feet to walk to the nearest wayshrine. Think of those adorable little young Khajiit faces looking mournfully up with their big sad teary eyes at their Khajiit parents, opening their mouths weakly and pointing inside with their cute Khajiit paws. "I'm hungry!" How will their mommies and daddies be able to afford to feed them if they can no longer collect all that nice, shiny gold from those lazy customers?
So i gotta loading screen to house then loading screen out of house to loading screen using wayshrine to get to location but thats fine.... you weird bruh I'm all for free shrines the new life and jesterfest are enough to make me never want to port again...7 -
Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?
Is 146g really too much?
to some people it is. I don't care but whats the harm ?
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Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Agenericname wrote: »CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »Who is this "vast majority"?
146 is cheap, and honestly wayshrines are everywhere. Owning all the inn rooms isn't that expensive to do, and it's a free wayshrine in lots of major cities.
That's true, but I'd rather just eat the 146 gold than 2 load screens
i keep a book by the couch, i read during loading screens. Usually 3 to 4 loading screens will be one chapter.6 -
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✭✭Agenericname wrote: »CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »Who is this "vast majority"?
146 is cheap, and honestly wayshrines are everywhere. Owning all the inn rooms isn't that expensive to do, and it's a free wayshrine in lots of major cities.
That's true, but I'd rather just eat the 146 gold than 2 load screens
i keep a book by the couch, i read during loading screens. Usually 3 to 4 loading screens will be one chapter.
I'd need The Stand.6 -
Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭Happens to me all the time on my new toon, doing the daily undaunted delve. High port cost to just bounce back to Grahtwood from most of the quest delves, of course I bounce back to the snugpod then out from there, but it's two load screens. At least with a voucher I could shave off part of the cost and just port right in.
The idea isn't even really about saving gold, it's more game immersion. Is it needed? No. Would it be used? Yes. It just seems like an obvious feature IMO.Edited by Veinblood1965 on February 13, 2020 8:28PM1 -
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✭✭✭Indeed! Here's my voucher, I'll have the steak with the port reduction zos and the free glass of port served with the meal please.Fear is the Mindkiller5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wayshrine fees are one of the minor gold sinks for ESO. Or maybe not so minor if you are impatient like I am.
Gold sinks, both major and minor, are generally a good thing for the game economy. So if ZOS removes this one, it might be wise to consider where else ZOS will look to take the equivalent gold out of the system.9 -
Kahnak✭✭✭✭✭I'm not going to pretend to understand the reason why we are charged money to teleport, but I'm going to go out on a limb assume that it has something to do with the nature of wayshrines.
That being said, I'm not particularly bothered by having to spend a little bit of gold to teleport. This isn't the only game that does it. Looking at the responses in this thread, I'm a little dubious of the 'A vast majority of players want this' claim.Edited by Kahnak on February 13, 2020 8:58PMTombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"3 -
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✭This one has millions of in game gold. This one does not worry about the price of convenience.6 -
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✭Loading screens is what prevents me from using my home as a free transit point.
It bothers me every time to look at the loading screen when I port to my house and then exit the house, and then go to the nearby wayshrine, and then port to another wayshrine within the zone. There are 3 loading screens, that's kind of a fee that I have to pay to be able to port for free. Not a good deal for me, that's why I don't like the idea of "Housing as a free teleport", and I never use it as a free teleport. It just doesn't worth it.One of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.
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✭✭✭you can travel to a house you own for free. many have wayshrines pretty much right next door.
Apartments are particularly useful such as the one in Rimmen. Literally walk out of your door into the middle of the capital city of the zone with every thing you need .phileunderx2 wrote: »This one has millions of in game gold. This one does not worry about the price of convenience.
yep 146 gold is nothing. I pay that in sales tax on one item in the trader.Loading screens is what prevents me from using my home as a free transit point.
It bothers me every time to look at the loading screen when I port to my house and then exit the house, and then go to the nearby wayshrine, and then port to another wayshrine within the zone. There are 3 loading screens, that's kind of a fee that I have to pay to be able to port for free. Not a good deal for me, that's why I don't like the idea of "Housing as a free teleport", and I never use it as a free teleport. It just doesn't worth it.
Rimmen?
Gold sink, helps curb inflation.I'm not going to pretend to understand the reason why we are charged money to teleport, but I'm going to go out on a limb assume that it has something to do with the nature of wayshrines.
That being said, I'm not particularly bothered by having to spend a little bit of gold to teleport. This isn't the only game that does it. Looking at the responses in this thread, I'm a little dubious of the 'A vast majority of players want this' claim.
Edited by Anotherone773 on February 13, 2020 9:10PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
Wayshrines everwhere, except in all of the locations that many daily quests send you to over and over again. Seeing the same stretch of map over and over again just to complete what should be a 1 minute quest that you end up spending more time riding from a wayshrine and back again. It's all just unnecessary.1 -
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✭If you are on PC use one of the several addons that allow you to port to guildmates from the command line...
Easytravel, you just type /tp (insert zone) and so long as there is a guild member there, boom you port away.
You can also use the inexpensive player houses for most zones.
If you are on console or don't want to use addons, just go to guild menu, go to roster, select a player and port to them.
I can't tell you the last time I actually ported with a fee.--- HuntGod ---
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Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Wayshrine fees are one of the minor gold sinks for ESO. Or maybe not so minor if you are impatient like I am.
Gold sinks, both major and minor, are generally a good thing for the game economy. So if ZOS removes this one, it might be wise to consider where else ZOS will look to take the equivalent gold out of the system.
it really isn't.
people can use the argument and say, its only 146 gold then turn around and say, its a gold sink that is good for the economy.
economy is a mess because of all the guild collusion, and won't get worse if wayshrines are free.1 -
Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Anotherone773 wrote: »you can travel to a house you own for free. many have wayshrines pretty much right next door.
Apartments are particularly useful such as the one in Rimmen. Literally walk out of your door into the middle of the capital city of the zone with every thing you need .phileunderx2 wrote: »This one has millions of in game gold. This one does not worry about the price of convenience.
yep 146 gold is nothing. I pay that in sales tax on one item in the trader.Loading screens is what prevents me from using my home as a free transit point.
It bothers me every time to look at the loading screen when I port to my house and then exit the house, and then go to the nearby wayshrine, and then port to another wayshrine within the zone. There are 3 loading screens, that's kind of a fee that I have to pay to be able to port for free. Not a good deal for me, that's why I don't like the idea of "Housing as a free teleport", and I never use it as a free teleport. It just doesn't worth it.
Rimmen?
Gold sink, helps curb inflation.I'm not going to pretend to understand the reason why we are charged money to teleport, but I'm going to go out on a limb assume that it has something to do with the nature of wayshrines.
That being said, I'm not particularly bothered by having to spend a little bit of gold to teleport. This isn't the only game that does it. Looking at the responses in this thread, I'm a little dubious of the 'A vast majority of players want this' claim.
so 146 nothing but it is something that curbs inflation. Sorry, it can't be both things. 146 wayshrines doesn't do a thing to curb inflation, it is too insignificant.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Siohwenoeht wrote: »Why? There are wayshrines everywhere. The only time I ever pay to port anywhere is when my toons get stuck...
so you have never been in a dungeon for 2min wait wanting to leave or just killed the boss of a delve and not want to run through the whole delve again to get out?
That's what my houses are for, also the gold in my bank - there's nothing else to spend it on.0 -
Kahnak✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Wayshrine fees are one of the minor gold sinks for ESO. Or maybe not so minor if you are impatient like I am.
Gold sinks, both major and minor, are generally a good thing for the game economy. So if ZOS removes this one, it might be wise to consider where else ZOS will look to take the equivalent gold out of the system.
it really isn't.
people can use the argument and say, its only 146 gold then turn around and say, its a gold sink that is good for the economy.
economy is a mess because of all the guild collusion, and won't get worse if wayshrines are free.
How isn't it? It's the definition of a gold sink.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_sink
Gold sink is an economic process by which a video game's ingame currency ('gold'), or any item that can be valued against it, is removed. This process is comparable to financial repression in real economies. Most commonly the genres are role-playing game or massively multiplayer online game.
Other forms of gold sinks include:
-Quests requiring a certain amount to continue with the task at hand. This is offset by quest rewards and items that may be resold.
-Fees associated with NPC services and tasks.
-Fees associated with travel and convenience.
-Crafting, often requiring an initial investment and a continued chance of failure. Items may be crafted at a loss to increase crafting skill.
-Auction House TaxesEdited by Kahnak on February 13, 2020 9:28PMTombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"4
