Shy, lazy, bored or a combination of all ?

daemonios

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

Buddy_Bradley

I've pretty much always gotten a response to a greeting at the start, or a "cheers guys cya" at the end of a dungeon run. I've also noticed that quite a lot of people don't drop group immediately, they'll just stay grouped with you for ages, despite being on the other side of the continent, which is a bit weird...

OWLTHEMAD

If your on console, some people are just not quick at typing with the controller, and not everybody has a keyboard attachment. I cant type messages to save my life on xbox.

Edziu

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

Fischblut

I always greet at the start of a group run. It's basic civility. If you enrolled in a group activity IRL you would be considered rude not to greet your team mates, even if you're not going to see them again after it. Just because it's a game doesn't mean there aren't real people behind the screen on the other side.

When I join the group for dungeons, I greet everyone. I also may ask if somebody needs some gear from this dungeon, and say if I need the quest. Sometimes I link set pieces which I get (only if I don't need them and can give away). I alert about chests and heavy sacks And of course I thank everyone at the end.

When I join group for battlegrounds, I also greet everyone. I used to also thank everyone after every match, even if we lost. But based on my observations, it was not needed - after loss, most of people remain silent, leave the group fast or tell something bad. So I thank everyone only if out team wins. For me, every match is somewhat victory - evet at third place, we get 7k AP (or 14k AP during the event)
Unfortunately, all group communication in between is almost always silence, or toxic comments from some group member about how everyone sucks etc. Most of times bad comments are ignored by everyone. Sometimes I politely tell to shut up, or reply with something in return... But unfortunately, we're forced to stay in group till the end of the match - and it's not pleasant to help some allies after some of their comments.
So during previous two days, while I was leveling my necromancers to Alliance Rank 10 via battlegrounds, I've decided to turn off chat in battlegrounds for the first time ever It felt bad and awkward to not greet everyone, but I can only imagine how much unnecessary salt I happily missed (most of time our groups were on third place)

Funny picture: when you are healer, and at the start of deathmatch in Eld Angavar you see all 3 allies go into separate portals, you know it's gonna be fun group...

Bad words from enemies are expected and I often play PvP in online mode to see if they have something to say. But bad words from allies are annoying simply cause I'm still forced to heal or help them during the match.

Often people who have never responded to greetings, advice or requests in a group dungeon run will go on an absolute rant in perfect Queen's English if something doesn't go according to their plan.

I agree, both for PvE and PvP

RefLiberty

Buddy_Bradley wrote: »

I've pretty much always gotten a response to a greeting at the start, or a "cheers guys cya" at the end of a dungeon run. I've also noticed that quite a lot of people don't drop group immediately, they'll just stay grouped with you for ages, despite being on the other side of the continent, which is a bit weird...

Probably some of them don't know how to un-group, so they are waiting for the group to be disbanded.
You think it is not possible, oh man...

daemonios

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

Yeah boy, you give yourself a big old pat on the back for being so awesome. Except... if you're so good, why do you even pug at all? You should be in high demand in all of your guilds.

Look, I get that it's frustrating getting teamed up with people for vet dungeons who don't know what they're doing. But there are ways to deal with it that don't involve projecting yourself as somehow better or more valid than anyone else. Being bad at the game doesn't mean they're less worthy of respect as a person. Your posts are only proving the point I and @Saltisol made.

Saltisol

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

My opinion and comment about you still stands and trying to rectify yourself by telling us how nice you were some time ago doesn't change a thing.

Tigerseye

I try to always say hi.

Occasionally, people are rushing so much I don't want to hold them up by talking, but I always say ty at the end.

Edziu

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

Yeah boy, you give yourself a big old pat on the back for being so awesome. Except... if you're so good, why do you even pug at all? You should be in high demand in all of your guilds.

Look, I get that it's frustrating getting teamed up with people for vet dungeons who don't know what they're doing. But there are ways to deal with it that don't involve projecting yourself as somehow better or more valid than anyone else. Being bad at the game doesn't mean they're less worthy of respect as a person. Your posts are only proving the point I and @Saltisol made.

problem is here as for so many not good ZOS changes here...I dont have single guild for vet content, only some friends sometimes to run this...so what else I have left besides hope in randoms from dung finder?

and if I get teamed with people who dont know how to do...then it is different story than being unable to do you role at all
many times especailly in easier dungs I was trying to help, explain mechanics to those who didnt know what to do as they was doing fine their role for which they queued, it was easy to see just though trash mobs and even on boss before mechanics if there was

but look now..if you go to dlc dung and then you see a guy with high cp or even cap cp is doing same dps as good buffind healer...then there is something wrong here
or pvp guy going with full pvp setup on dung - this is called fake dps then as he is doing no dps, he is just weight for group
but as how community here is so friendly to players like there then ok, as I said I just leave group to not start an *** storm

so how toxic/elitist Im? I just have no willing to carry people who no no, not they know mechanics...mechanics are to explain if they dont know...but I have no willings and so Im not responsible to carry fake roles in dung so now why so flame on me?

GeorgeBlack

In mmorpgs in which you sit in a city and teleport with a dungeon finder, you play with 3 more randoms. You can barely remember there names without looking at the group UI.

They function as npc since the dungeon is reletavily easy after so many repititions that you dont care to talk to them.

It's not like other mmorpgs in which you duo or group with people in an open world.
People you will defend from enemy players. People that you will farm mats for, or if they drop an item upon death you will give it back. People whose armor or playstyle you notice. Real guild members or just friends that level up on the same pace out in the world and you crossed paths many times.


Ye... repetative dungeons dont offer real player interaction. Just wave after wave after wave of the same mobs you are just too bussy clearing, always trying to get it done faster than any time before.

These are the things that players that think open world pvp mmorpgs are just a grief fest, will never experience.
Why? Because are too scared of getting killed once a week outside of a sterilized instanced dungeon.

Edziu

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

My opinion and comment about you still stands and trying to rectify yourself by telling us how nice you were some time ago doesn't change a thing.

and yet you was suggesting, impose me elitism, toxicity from "trauma" on early game from being inexperienced on start? or for being so inexperienced for so long and being calling you by many players because of it

and as I wrote, I have no responsibility to carry noobs if I have no willing because Im to lazy for this, like rest of the group is not forced to kick this noob player fron team if they dont want and dont care
so I just leave this team to not bother with it myself and rest of the group if this dung is not that important for me

AcadianPaladin

I always say 'Hi there!' when entering a pug dungeon but I can almost understand some who might not. When I first pop into the dungeon I bring up the group list to see who/what is in my group. I'm a healer and am looking for who is the tank and what level / class the dd's are. Then I exit that screen, select group chat and type in 'Hi there!' By the time I get all that done (maybe ~10?), more often than not the group has raced ahead and is already into the first trash mob. Oh well. As a healer in the rear it is not so bad but I could see if a tank (who wants to be and should be first to draw aggro) did this they'd be playing severe catch up right from the start.

TLDR: Because pugs tend to race right into the dungeon the moment they pop into it, that makes pleasantries somewhat problematic.

Tigerseye

Skorro wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Skorro wrote: »

If you're on EU the peeps may just not speak English, sometimes they also run with chat closed.

Am sure it's nothing personal

I disagree. Many (though not all) people are just entitled and rude, and believe that group content - especially through group finder - is a way to find other people to do their bidding. Often people who have never responded to greetings, advice or requests in a group dungeon run will go on an absolute rant in perfect Queen's English if something doesn't go according to their plan.

I always greet at the start of a group run. It's basic civility. If you enrolled in a group activity IRL you would be considered rude not to greet your team mates, even if you're not going to see them again after it. Just because it's a game doesn't mean there aren't real people behind the screen on the other side.

Luckily I've never had those kinds of tools in my groups. I do agree it's good manners to greet though.

Best I had was a guy run ahead of us and drag a massive mob to the boss - tank used /sitchair, watched him die and we all bagged him.

He left group pretty silently xD

What if he was new and didn't know what he was doing?

Or she, obviously.

Ufretin

Replying to your tank's (max cp) or healer's (max cp) greeting will greatly increase your (cp100 DD) chances of getting carried, being taught mechanics, etc.

Skorro

Tigerseye wrote: »

Skorro wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Skorro wrote: »

If you're on EU the peeps may just not speak English, sometimes they also run with chat closed.

Am sure it's nothing personal

I disagree. Many (though not all) people are just entitled and rude, and believe that group content - especially through group finder - is a way to find other people to do their bidding. Often people who have never responded to greetings, advice or requests in a group dungeon run will go on an absolute rant in perfect Queen's English if something doesn't go according to their plan.

I always greet at the start of a group run. It's basic civility. If you enrolled in a group activity IRL you would be considered rude not to greet your team mates, even if you're not going to see them again after it. Just because it's a game doesn't mean there aren't real people behind the screen on the other side.

Luckily I've never had those kinds of tools in my groups. I do agree it's good manners to greet though.

Best I had was a guy run ahead of us and drag a massive mob to the boss - tank used /sitchair, watched him die and we all bagged him.

He left group pretty silently xD

What if he was new and didn't know what he was doing?

Or she, obviously.

They were mid 300s, but could've been their first time, true.

Thing is I'm also playing to chill so if the lad/lady wants to charge ahead without a word and being new to dungeons - that's on them. I won't (edit to add: usually) be a [snip] to peeps if I can help it, but I'm also not a babysitter.

[Edited for profanity bypass]

Saltisol

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

My opinion and comment about you still stands and trying to rectify yourself by telling us how nice you were some time ago doesn't change a thing.

and yet you was suggesting, impose me elitism, toxicity from "trauma" on early game from being inexperienced on start? or for being so inexperienced for so long and being calling you by many players because of it

and as I wrote, I have no responsibility to carry noobs if I have no willing because Im to lazy for this, like rest of the group is not forced to kick this noob player fron team if they dont want and dont care
so I just leave this team to not bother with it myself and rest of the group if this dung is not that important for me

Listen, it has nothing to do with what you want to or don't want to do. It's all about your initial comment:

"if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD"

I'd say that qualifies as an elitist comment.

Reverb

I’m really disheartened that’s so many people jump to assume ill intent. I will usually say hello when joining an instance. But a lot of times I was doing writs or a quest when the queue popped, so that first minute is a scramble to double check potion quickslots and make sure I don’t still have rapids on my bar, and maybe a quick inventory dump. Many players pull out their banker or merchant at the entrance of the dungeon, so I feel like it’s pretty common.

Inevitably someone pulls the first pack of trash and it’s an “oh s**t” scramble to catch up then we blaze along. While all that was happening my guild chats were flying, and your greeting scrolled so far up that I never had a chance of seeing it.

It’s pretty jerky to assume that a person in that circumstance is rude or lazy, and it’s pretty self important to take it so personally when someone doesn’t say hello.

DocDova

I don't talk at start but I like to thank everyone at end.

Edziu

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

That is just sad and elitist, I'm pretty sure you've been one of the inexperienced ones but now when you feel high and mighty it's all about you lol

daemonios wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

This is some elitist, entitled pile of bovine dung. Not to mention probably suffering from confirmation bias, where you recall those instances that support your own position and forget those that don't.

some elitist? probably after long time playing here and getting bored by carring noob dps (got no problem with tank and heal if they atleast do their job at minimum, but got bored of doing dung whiel doing 70% of group dps, I after playing this game with some breaks since beta...I just get to lazy to carry dps so thats why and btw..it is better now for me to leave group on start or start chatting on group to kick this low dd?)

and lol @Saltisol, the only time I was inexperienced it was when I was beggining this game like everyone else so....and as I wrote...burned out of carring fake dps after years of playing it, this is not my responsibility to carry every dps I meet

and as I wrote...greeting on start dung and how team will be doing after it in dung...was just mine lucky or unlucky experience at who I was getting with it xD

My opinion and comment about you still stands and trying to rectify yourself by telling us how nice you were some time ago doesn't change a thing.

and yet you was suggesting, impose me elitism, toxicity from "trauma" on early game from being inexperienced on start? or for being so inexperienced for so long and being calling you by many players because of it

and as I wrote, I have no responsibility to carry noobs if I have no willing because Im to lazy for this, like rest of the group is not forced to kick this noob player fron team if they dont want and dont care
so I just leave this team to not bother with it myself and rest of the group if this dung is not that important for me

Listen, it has nothing to do with what you want to or don't want to do. It's all about your initial comment:

"if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD"

I'd say that qualifies as an elitist comment.

from 1st look ok, it qualifies as it, untill you will get informed why and again as I write,,,this was just my experience
not always I have like this xD but mostly I have this luck to be like that
if I dont leave dung instantly I will respond to other with hi or something, but if noone will greet at start then and I just dont care about it, nothing special
many seems to just not care it as some was writing, many times who will probably dont meet again with same player and many also run dung to get this done as fast as possible so many just dont even care to greet and if all in team dont care for this..then they mostly are similiar, just dont care about chatting, they want to have done this dung asap and leave party and for for another or back minding their own business :P

DarcyMardin

I don’t always say hi when I join a group, but I do always say thank you before I leave one.

Reverb

DarcyMardin wrote: »

I don’t always say hi when I join a group, but I do always say thank you before I leave one.

Same. I may not always see the initial greeting, but I never bounce without thanking people.

Inaya

I always try to say hi at the beginning and thanks at the end but sometimes the group is off and running before I'm even fully zoned in lol. I've never been able to type, play and keep up with a speed run group so I wait till the end.

I'm much more talkative and comfortable in the "hey here's a heavy sack", "did you all get that chest" kind of group.

@Edziu I won't call you toxic, I'll just say I feel sorry for you since you miss so many opportunities to make friends. You sound like you look at the game as some kind of job or huge competition. Unless someone is a total tool you should always make time for other people. It's called human.

Ye_Olde_Crowe

I usually read all the chat messages in case the group members say important stuff, but it takes me forever to type when dungeoneering. So I usually just say Hey in the beginning and gg in the end - when the action hasn't started or has ended. I would probably lose my group otherwise. And nobody likes stragglers, correct?
My very first gamer tag (way back in the last milennium) was 'Compass' for a reason ... right, I was the smeghead who managed to get lost in a room with one entry/exit in the game 'Descent'.

I find it easier to chat when adventuring (or taking taking towns and such in Cyro) as a dyad. For me it's easier to keep track of just one other person/character, and in situations that are less visually overwhelming .

Agenericname

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

I usually say "hi" or "hello" in the beginning. It's been pretty rare that I've encountered a dungeon that couldn't be beaten in a timely manner, even the vet DLCs. Not always hard mode, but it's rare to not have a completion.

Whether or not someone speaks isn't an indicator of anything other than whether or not they speak at the beginning. If you PUG vet DLCs often it's far more common to have people speak, on PC anyway. In non-DLC vets I can't remember the last time a group failed to get a completion.

What they say at the beginning is much less of a factor than what they say once it has started.

Taemiru

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There could be tons of reasons why person didn't write hi, overflowing guild/private chat, different keyboard layout (so like russians), or even some personal issue where its hard for someone to communicate and write "hi" without thinking about it for the rest of the day and wondering what if they wrote back too soon/late or if it should be "Hello" instead.

Rushing before you finish quest/quickly read about boss mechanic (or get it explained by someone)/get into positions with tank is rude, shaming for class/race/skills/role/dps/etc. is rude and unfriendly. Saying hi at the start is friendly and will also increase your chances of being carried, but writing nothing is fine , it does not make someone self-centered egomaniacs whose parents have done a terrible job of raising them unless they actually do something that is rude (like real rude, not "disrespecting my roleplayer feelings by not taking at least 2 min to talk about current weather in Summerset before we start with a dungeon").

Edziu

Agenericname wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

I usually say "hi" or "hello" in the beginning. It's been pretty rare that I've encountered a dungeon that couldn't be beaten in a timely manner, even the vet DLCs. Not always hard mode, but it's rare to not have a completion.

Whether or not someone speaks isn't an indicator of anything other than whether or not they speak at the beginning. If you PUG vet DLCs often it's far more common to have people speak, on PC anyway. In non-DLC vets I can't remember the last time a group failed to get a completion.

What they say at the beginning is much less of a factor than what they say once it has started.

my mistake I didnt wrote also in this post what I wrote later
as some players like me just care for even greeting at start if they want to do dung fast :P and as I also wrote..this was jsut from my experience xD this is not always like that but enough often for to notice how much often I get more expl players in group wanting fast dung who also dont care to even say hi on start :P

@Inaya uts called human, but tbh there is not much enough interractions in dungs to make more friends so often :P
as how in this game this is done, many dont even care with who they play if they go with randoms, they just want to have it done asap
and sometimes we get to some player who even as was silent on begging of dung there went to good conversation within it or at the end, mostly it just need to get grouped with right people for this xD and this doesnt amtter if they greeting at start of dung or not :P


as I said, many also just dont care for greetings at start and thats simple it

Ragnork

FierceSam wrote: »

Hej, Equally the ‘Jeg forventer, at du forstår engelsk’ attitude is the last resort of the petty minded.

tror dette.

I will always try to respond, however I am a little slow across the keyboard; so from me "Hello" - "yes I will wait whilst you do the quest" - "yes I can swap" or "no I am saving that one, sorry" - might be as much as I can manage amongst the panic induced rotation that I am trying to engage....

Agenericname

Edziu wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

from my experience with randoms in dung

if noone say any greeting there is much higher chance group is more exp to be able done well this dung
if someone start dung with greeting then I start thinking if go further with group or leave xD

I usually say "hi" or "hello" in the beginning. It's been pretty rare that I've encountered a dungeon that couldn't be beaten in a timely manner, even the vet DLCs. Not always hard mode, but it's rare to not have a completion.

Whether or not someone speaks isn't an indicator of anything other than whether or not they speak at the beginning. If you PUG vet DLCs often it's far more common to have people speak, on PC anyway. In non-DLC vets I can't remember the last time a group failed to get a completion.

What they say at the beginning is much less of a factor than what they say once it has started.

my mistake I didnt wrote also in this post what I wrote later
as some players like me just care for even greeting at start if they want to do dung fast :P and as I also wrote..this was jsut from my experience xD this is not always like that but enough often for to notice how much often I get more expl players in group wanting fast dung who also dont care to even say hi on start :P

Sure, I read them, but only really wanted to address that one comment. I tend to run the vet DLCs more than the rest. People tend to be friendlier on average there and the content is more demanding. I simply do not think that there is correlation between greetings and performance, however, I would confine that to performance and not urgency. In non-DLC pledges people do tend to get into a hurry at times.

I usually say hi to break the ice. It makes it slightly more comfortable for someone who's never done them to speak up and say so. I'd much rather they do that than find out later. Yesterdays vet DLC was FH. Upon entering everyone said hello, the tank said hi and "new here, pls explain mechanics." Less than an hour later we cleared HM. Sometimes speaking helps the run move along more smoothly.

Odovacar

I play both NA and EU and its funny how in NA during a PUG I usually get nothing or maybe one member of the group will say HELLO...EU it's almost always standard for everyone to greet each other … I love it because its a great way to start a random!