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Do you like Cast times?

brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
I hate cast times, in any form.
Raise your arguments, not your insults.

Jodynn/Jo_oJ PC NA

PvE and PvP

MagDK
StamDK

Do you like Cast times? 449 votes

Yes
10%
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No
78%
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Yes, but not on ultimates.
7%
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Yes, but only on ultimates.
3%
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  • Minno
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    No
    Generally no, but if they result in higher DMG then ok I'll deal. But if something like force pulse is only 2k less than a cast timed higher avoidable spell, then I think there's major outdated issues with cast times lol.
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  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
    No
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    animation-clipped-Dawnbreaker with bash- added in mass lagg and high ping = instadeath
    its very old and lame and people actually think that means they are skilled by doing setups "like" that.

    That is with dawnbreaker, only an ultimate, so would you say it's only for ultimate?
    Raise your arguments, not your insults.

    Jodynn/Jo_oJ PC NA

    PvE and PvP

    MagDK
    StamDK
  • Gilvoth
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    Yes
    only for ultimates? yes.
    for other skills like shields and healings and invisibility?
    NO, that would destroy people defenses.

    Edited by Gilvoth on July 11, 2019 7:25PM
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    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • leepalmer95
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    Yes, but not on ultimates.
    For ults? No.

    For skills like dizzy? sure. Bit of a risk/ reward with them.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • leepalmer95
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    Yes, but not on ultimates.
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    animation-clipped-Dawnbreaker with bash- added in mass lagg and high ping = instadeath
    its very old and lame and people actually think that means they are skilled by doing setups "like" that.

    So it would be fine without the lag and ping?


    What exactly do you have against animation cancelling.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Xvorg
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    Yes, but not on ultimates.
    I think niche sets like Soulshine or Light of Cyrodiil shouldn't be erased. If all the skills become instant cast then there's no point for those sets.

    Stamina should also get some sets that benefit from cast time skills.

    Regarding ultis, all ultis should be instant cast
    The biggest problem within this game is the lack imagination on its player base and its developers...
    DragonKNIGHT KNIGHT!!!! not Dragonscoundrel, neither Dragonarcher....
    ― Our enemy was bold so we were bolder... our enemy was strong so we were stronger...

    ― Then, why did you lose?

    ― Our enemy was stupid...
    When it comes to crap, big-time, major league crap, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, ZoS. No contest. No contest. ZoS. ZoS easily has the greatest crap story ever told. Think about it: ZoS has actually convinced people, that there's a balance patch, coming next chapter, which will make you do everything you want do, at any hour, every day. And this balance patch has a special list of things it wants you to do. And if you don't do any of these things, it has a special place, full of lag and zergs and bleeds and procs and nerfs, where he will send you to die and suffer and respec and die and give AP and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

    But it loves you. It loves you, and it has lag! It always has lag! It's all-fun, all-perfect, all-lore, and all-challenging, somehow just can't handle lag! ZoS takes in millions of dollars, they pay no high-end servers, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good crap story. Holy Proc!
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    No
    Cast times need to go.The less the better.
  • Xvorg
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    Yes, but not on ultimates.
    Cast times need to go.The less the better.

    You know that could mean sorcs could use a combo with rune and inevitable detonation without restrictions?
    The biggest problem within this game is the lack imagination on its player base and its developers...
    DragonKNIGHT KNIGHT!!!! not Dragonscoundrel, neither Dragonarcher....
    ― Our enemy was bold so we were bolder... our enemy was strong so we were stronger...

    ― Then, why did you lose?

    ― Our enemy was stupid...
    When it comes to crap, big-time, major league crap, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, ZoS. No contest. No contest. ZoS. ZoS easily has the greatest crap story ever told. Think about it: ZoS has actually convinced people, that there's a balance patch, coming next chapter, which will make you do everything you want do, at any hour, every day. And this balance patch has a special list of things it wants you to do. And if you don't do any of these things, it has a special place, full of lag and zergs and bleeds and procs and nerfs, where he will send you to die and suffer and respec and die and give AP and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

    But it loves you. It loves you, and it has lag! It always has lag! It's all-fun, all-perfect, all-lore, and all-challenging, somehow just can't handle lag! ZoS takes in millions of dollars, they pay no high-end servers, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good crap story. Holy Proc!
  • TheInfernalRage
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    No
    If they can solve the animation canceling bug, sure I can understand cast times. However, when you have a game where weaving have become a "feature", cast time sucks.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    No
    Xvorg wrote: »
    Cast times need to go.The less the better.

    You know that could mean sorcs could use a combo with rune and inevitable detonation without restrictions?

    Oh no.... I'm really concerned about your pvp zerg.
  • highkingnm
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    No
    The reason I love ESO’s combat is the speed and cast times take that away. I don’t mind it for things like Channeled Acceleration as I do it once every thirty seconds for a good buff, but for other abilities it just slows combat and makes it dull (and makes it handle like trash).
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  • Red_Feather
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    Yes
    I liked them in guild wars. I used to play a mesmer interrupter. :)
  • GeneralSezme
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    No
    If it didn't lag they would be fine
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  • Banana
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    No
    If theres a cast time. I dont use it.
  • Aedrion
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    No
    No.
  • Saril_Durzam
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    Yes
    Yeah, liked them on wow and lotro, as it comes to a slower pace of playing. Must admit that ESO style is fun and fast, and it doesnt really fit the channeled with a good DPS.
  • Evito
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    No
    Cast times ruin the entire combat system in this game.
  • tthhyyss
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    No
    Obvious the opinions are devided between pve and pvp players... im pve only and im really losing interest in this game more and more... i don't want to quit, but adding cast times, destroying the allready *** sustain, nerfing ***, not fixing 5 year old bugs... enough is enough..its just the little push i need to unsub for a while.
    Edited by tthhyyss on July 12, 2019 3:16PM
  • Khenzy
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    Yes
    Yes as long as the power and impact of the skill merits it.
  • jcm2606
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    No
    Intentionally making combat less responsive is bad, and I have no *** idea why people want it. Cast times have next to no place in ESO's combat system, especially with performance being as bad as it is. Good luck landing a Dizzying Swing with 300 ping while moving around a lot.
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  • akray21
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    Trick question. Yes for PvP because it allows counter-play. No for PvE because they feel bad to use.
    Edited by akray21 on July 12, 2019 2:14PM
  • Olupajmibanan
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    No
    Except for Dizzying Swing where, I like the cast time, which is justifyied with high burst and stun. Cast time on this ability makes it a high risk high reward ability. EsO generaly lacks these abilities.

    I kinda like cast time on Dark Flare as well.

    But, I am also glad they removed cast time from Blood Altar.

    Cast time on ultimates is plain wrong IMO.

  • Xogath
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    No
    If cast times are going to stick around on Ultimates, then every Ultimate in the game needs to have a reason for it to be slotted.

    Incap, for example, got Minor Reave as a bonus for slotting it. Not terribly powerful, fits the theme of the class, etc. So give every other Ultimate a little Minor bonus like that for slotting it. Something unique to the classes, or the skill lines from which the Ultimate comes from.

    Dawnbreaker - Added damage (all damage) against Daedra/Undead/etc. for having it slotted. This makes it worth slotting in situations where the majority of your targets are going to meet those types.

    Berserker Strike - Since this is from a weapon skill line, maybe a small weapon damage bonus.. or an added bonus to the weapon line passives.. or anything else that fits the 2H theme.

    Rend - extra critical chance on DW DoTs? I really don't know.

    But you see the point I'm getting at.
  • Sharee
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    Yes
    Except for Dizzying Swing where, I like the cast time, which is justifyied with high burst and stun. Cast time on this ability makes it a high risk high reward ability. EsO generaly lacks these abilities.

    I kinda like cast time on Dark Flare as well.

    But, I am also glad they removed cast time from Blood Altar.

    Cast time on ultimates is plain wrong IMO.

    ... because dawnbreaker does not justify it with high burst and stun.
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