NO MIDYEAR MAYHEM THIS SUMMER

Korah_Eaglecry

ccmedaddy wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

THE LAG DURING THE EVENT IS HORRIBLE I HATE THIS GAME.

Or.

THEY TOOK AWAY MY EVENT I HATE THIS GAME.

How about:

THEY HAD 6 MONTHS SINCE THE LAST MAYHEM EVENT TO FIX THEIR SERVERS BUT THEY DIDN'T

Remember when they promised to add more servers. But nothing changed. And then they announced at E3 they had added new servers. But things still didnt change.

Probably because its all talk at this point. Until people start unsubbing and refusing to buy Crown Crates they wont feel the pressure to do the right thing.

Rohamad_Ali

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

ccmedaddy wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

THE LAG DURING THE EVENT IS HORRIBLE I HATE THIS GAME.

Or.

THEY TOOK AWAY MY EVENT I HATE THIS GAME.

How about:

THEY HAD 6 MONTHS SINCE THE LAST MAYHEM EVENT TO FIX THEIR SERVERS BUT THEY DIDN'T

Remember when they promised to add more servers. But nothing changed. And then they announced at E3 they had added new servers. But things still didnt change.

Probably because its all talk at this point. Until people start unsubbing and refusing to buy Crown Crates they wont feel the pressure to do the right thing.

Money is all game companies understand these days . The old days of passion driven gaming is over . Now everyone expects to make a living at video games .

MacCait

Well that's effed me up... my two favorite events messed up time wise, events i had returned to ESO for... was planning on MYM end July and IC event in August, now just learned no MYM and DB event starts in 4 days... looks like will miss that too.

While the game clearly needs fixing... this pretty much sucks for me. Looks like another year will pass by

hmmm have I got confused when IC event is?

Metafae

People are acting like ZoS wont add an alternate to Mid-Year that will be even better than it was supposed to be, and probably last longer too as an apology.

They do usually try to do this for us. They do care about what you think, but like parents telling their child no, the children still scream unaware that the parent is saying no for a reason.

thegreatme

Metafae wrote: »

People are acting like ZoS wont add an alternate to Mid-Year that will be even better than it was supposed to be, and probably last longer too as an apology.

They do usually try to do this for us. They do care about what you think, but like parents telling their child no, the children still scream unaware that the parent is saying no for a reason.

More or less what I've been trying to say.

There are legitimate reasons to call off/put a hold on an event based on a broken system.

People would still be complaining and threatening "I'll vote with my wallet!" if ZoS went ahead and said "we know this system is broken but we based a WHOLE EVENT on it anyway!"

I would -hope- anyway that ZoS calling off an entire, largely anticipated event, knowing they'd probably get massive backlash for it, means they're going to work on a real fix this time, especially if they're fresh-coding it. Suffice to say I think its obvious, and has been said already, patching bad code isn't going to make it go away.

Fresh slate. Let's hope that means they'll do it right!

wishlist14

Why are people being so rude about this? Zos is busy fixing things and you all *** about them being incompetent?

This just shows there is no pleasing some trolls

Vicinia

thegreatme wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Bro wtf are you white knighting for? Didn't we just have it in January? No it was never said in January that we get it in January instead of now. Didn't we just have dark brotherhood 3 months ago?

I didn't know having a perspective on the situation that isn't overtly inflammatory was automatically white knighting lol

It wasn't in their plans to not have Midyear Mayhem this year, I'm sure. Plans change, things don't go how they thought they would. Do you have a crystal ball that tells the future? I don't. Pretty sure ZoS doesn't either. While it CAN be said "this could have been avoided if [insert Y during X timeframe]--", there's a famous saying Hindsight is 20/20.

Someone probably had a grand plan "WE'RE GONNA CRANK OUT AND FIX [A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N--]" on things they wanted to do and they only managed to crank out [A, B, F, G, H, J, L, N] and maybe patching [E and I] while still meeting deadlines while the rest of what they wanted to do are either put on the back burner or scrapped completely for business expediency. That's not actually all that unusual in the production process of any creative medium, especially in such a cutthroat industry that demands... well, a lot. I'm not gonna go on a tangent about that. I trust you can do your own homework. Does that make it right? Nope. Didn't say that. But the gaming industry has learned they can get away with doing it and still make money.

As for the issue of the queue for the event, ZoS is (allegedly) not just patching the queue like in the past. They're coding something fresh, which will take time, effort, and most of all and most importantly to ZoS, money. IF they do a proper job with it, with the time they're taking to do it -- if, if, if, that's the key word here -- it will be worth the wait, or so goes the theory. Will it actually work better? Eh. We'll see. Maybe. Maybe not. A lot of opinions seem to lean towards Not, but we'll see. Neutral seems like the best ground to stand on until we see how it goes, and what they make might work perfectly as intended on their systems and not on all the millions of user systems they go out to. The fact ZoS is even addressing it as "yes this is definitely broken and yes it needs to be fixed" at least sounds like a step in the right direction, since there's a lot of broken things they remain completely silent on. Does that give them a free pass if it turns out to be another broken mess? Absolutely not. But this is now, and that will be then. We'll see what happens.

There's also the matter that no one at any point is forcing you to pay for their product. If you subbed and spent money on them for the five years the game has been out despite it being broken, knowing and talking about how broken it was but still subscribed and "put up with it", then you played a broken game that whole time and still decided it was worth throwing money at. Your money already cast its vote to ZoS that its good enough. You ragequit? Okay. There's still plenty of other people who will still sub, who have subbed, whose sub has renewed, whatever the case, who will also be here five years from now, who only knew it was broken 10 years before because they heard someone say it was, which is different than experiencing it, which will impact their willingness to keep throwing money at ZoS differently. And that's what a lot of the industry business, in or out of ZoS, counts on.

So if that's the case you can't really claim to not have helped establish that ZoS can make a broken game and still take your money. More than once. And that they can take someone else's money when you've had enough. Because they will. They already are.

And no, its not about "Defending ZoS" specifically, that's simply the reality of the industry as a whole. Game production employees have their visions, game players have their expectations, and business heads have X amount of resource they care to expend towards making it happen, no matter who else wants what else or how much resource it actually takes to accomplish this. This only becomes more true the bigger and more comfortably established the company is, as opposed to a small company or a startup that has more to lose but less people "above" to answer to. Somewhere vision and expectations are broken because of cost.

Vicinia wrote: »

Can you not craft impenetrable gear? I don't consider myself a PvPer by any stretch of the word. But you not even doing the bare minimum of having a PvP set is on you, and you deserve what you get in that regard.

I don't believe I said it wasn't on me that I'm not geared for it? But also why would I craft a PvP set just to collect one treasure map goodie when I'm not going back for anything else?

Lot of wasted time, effort, and resources for very little gain. If I planned to regular PvP or do a whole dedicated event on it, different story. When I go in just to grab a treasure map mark on the other side of the map, run into some people trying to invite me and say "I'm just here to collect a loot chest and go" and they act like it doesn't matter and want you to group with them anyway because they really want more help... that's on them at THAT point. I warned them lol

But that's beside the point I'm making. The actual point of it is there's gonna be a lot of PvE people who don't even know there's a difference jumping headlong into PvP, not only making the lag worse, but filling up the slots for the people who are actually there to JUST do PvP. Because PvP is their thing.

So you get a broken event, with broken queues, with a flood of people who normally avoid the war zone and have no idea what they're doing, who came in only to jump through a hoop to get a ticket in a zone they're not actually prepared to do, which by extension means they're probably going to spend longer there trying to fulfill whatever quota is required to get the event prizes. You can say "well that's on them" but its the PvPers who get shorted their spot and their event for non-PvPers no matter how you slice it.

Mind you, I'm not saying "there should be no PvP event", because I feel like that's what's been interpreted.

I'm saying an event that forces PvEers into PvP spaces through a long-known broken queue system just to get tickets would not be the smartest move on ZoS's part, and giving non-PvPers ANY encouragement to further flood and break the queues isn't exactly wise either. Its not like they're locking everyone out of Cyro and BGs completely and saying "no one gets to go to the war zone until we fix it", they're just not encouraging an already bad problem to become worse by making it an attractive place to be for those who otherwise wouldn't even glance at it

geonsocal wrote: »

you just got in the wrong group...and, judging by your rather lengthy writing - there's a very real chance you may have said something to lead down that particular road of discourse with your group mates - although, there are differently weird folks in both cyrodilil and the rest of tamriel...

Its usually smaller groups that are just desperate to have more people then wonder why the rando in PvE gear they picked up digging up loot or running a basic Scout mission for a reward box and not to actually fight anyone isn't carrying demolishing keeps and zergs for them

As for my writing length I just write a lot as my default, and this is a discussion forum. As I tell most people I deal with regularly, "I can't shorthand for ***".

Besides, too hard to simultaneously type and kill people for that to be it
(really I'm just honest about when I know I'm not equipped to do what they want, but apparently no one takes my warnings seriously because they're somehow always surprised when exactly what I said would happen, happens. Maybe they're all just blinded by my username?? lol)

With the ease of obtaining crafting mats in this game I'm not sure why you'd go unprepared into a war zone, but to each their own You can ignore people who invite you to group to be fair so I don't really get that. The way I figure it is if you're looking for a treasure box in PvP you may have to fight for it, why not be prepared?

The lag is already terrible. Even the non-cp campaign is horrid. I completely understand they cancelled it to stop a catastrophe. Honestly what's probably angering people is that it was such short notice. I recall the lag in the last MM being pretty bad, but they've had ample time to cancel. But honestly why did the lag get to this point? It's been years in the making.

I can't speak for anyone. I haven't gotten mad at PvErs in PvP. If you at least try to pull your weight you should be fine. It's when dudes try using PvE rotations on human players is when it goes bad. Or I suppose you can Zerg surf to get in or out. It's your prerogative.

I'm sorry who forced PvErs into the event? You do not need the jewelry, and the mount is strictly cosmetic (and ugly to boot I might add). Also getting Assault and Support rank up to 6 is as easy as pie. With or without the event. The PvErs don't need anything past Barrier. After getting those skills they don't need a thing, they go willingly to get something they'd enjoy/find practical and that's great. Unfortunately that may entail doing something they don't enjoy, but thems the breaks. PvPers gotta do the same thing but to a disproportionate degree. Most of the event ticket earning methods were PvE-based, I'm sure some PvPers were interested in it too. It's only fair to offer them a way to earn it.

So essentially PvPers are punished for PvErs swarming the flood gates for a horrid looking mount. I understand the rational but it's a cop-out. The lag should have been taken care of years ago. Cyrodiil should be able to take the stress of an influx of players. They've ignored the glaring issues until it has gotten out of hand. It's been ignored to the point that it is present in all facets of the game. If they really plan on fixing anything I'll believe when I see it 😉

thegreatme

Vicinia wrote: »

You can ignore people who invite you to group to be fair so I don't really get that. The way I figure it is if you're looking for a treasure box in PvP you may have to fight for it, why not be prepared?

You can, and I could have. It was more a sense of being generous with my time towards people asking for help, because why not? Its just a game. Maybe it'll be fun. I already know I'll get killed going against someone else, but that's PvP.

But I'm also going to give fair warning that they might want to reconsider if they're not THAT desperate lol

Vicinia wrote: »

I completely understand they cancelled it to stop a catastrophe. Honestly what's probably angering people is that it was such short notice. I recall the lag in the last MM being pretty bad, but they've had ample time to cancel. But honestly why did the lag get to this point? It's been years in the making.

I think someone a few pages back mentioned MM is actually later in July/start of August? So its almost a full month of notice. It could definitely still have been announced sooner, probably, but maybe they'd hoped to be further along in fixing the queue issue than they got, and then realized they weren't close enough to fixing it to go ahead on it.

Vicinia wrote: »

I'm sorry who forced PvErs into the event? You do not need the jewelry, and the mount is strictly cosmetic (and ugly to boot I might add).

I'm using the term "forced" very loosely here. Semantics, gotta love it What I was meaning though is making it exclusively PvP-based highly encourages those PvE people to jump into it. If its the ONLY way to get tickets for that event duration, and by extension, while not "forcing" them to go into PvP, they are forcing them to go WITHOUT unless they join into the PvP zones, or alternatively, buy tickets with crowns.

Its not strictly forcing them to do anything, but its not giving an alternate option.

Seems to me the simplest solution to everyone's problems would be to have a way to get tickets through PvE, and a way to get them through PvP, at the same time for each event. Unfortunately, that would take more work, thought, coding... and more potential for problems in the system. So its not likely to happen, as ideal as it would be.

Really the DB/Thieves event making another round might not be so much directly related to shutting down MM as it is just slapping in a filler event of any kind so there at least was an event at all (and one not tied to any specific seasons or lore like New Life or Hallowjack, or something new they'd have to code in).

You might not want the mount, but other people do, so obviously they can't just NOT have any event at all.

Vicinia

thegreatme wrote: »

Vicinia wrote: »

You can ignore people who invite you to group to be fair so I don't really get that. The way I figure it is if you're looking for a treasure box in PvP you may have to fight for it, why not be prepared?

You can, and I could have. It was more a sense of being generous with my time towards people asking for help, because why not? Its just a game. Maybe it'll be fun. I already know I'll get killed going against someone else, but that's PvP.

But I'm also going to give fair warning that they might want to reconsider if they're not THAT desperate lol

Vicinia wrote: »

I completely understand they cancelled it to stop a catastrophe. Honestly what's probably angering people is that it was such short notice. I recall the lag in the last MM being pretty bad, but they've had ample time to cancel. But honestly why did the lag get to this point? It's been years in the making.

I think someone a few pages back mentioned MM is actually later in July/start of August? So its almost a full month of notice. It could definitely still have been announced sooner, probably, but maybe they'd hoped to be further along in fixing the queue issue than they got, and then realized they weren't close enough to fixing it to go ahead on it.

Vicinia wrote: »

I'm sorry who forced PvErs into the event? You do not need the jewelry, and the mount is strictly cosmetic (and ugly to boot I might add).

I'm using the term "forced" very loosely here. Semantics, gotta love it What I was meaning though is making it exclusively PvP-based highly encourages those PvE people to jump into it. If its the ONLY way to get tickets for that event duration, and by extension, while not "forcing" them to go into PvP, they are forcing them to go WITHOUT unless they join into the PvP zones, or alternatively, buy tickets with crowns.

Its not strictly forcing them to do anything, but its not giving an alternate option.

Seems to me the simplest solution to everyone's problems would be to have a way to get tickets through PvE, and a way to get them through PvP, at the same time for each event. Unfortunately, that would take more work, thought, coding... and more potential for problems in the system. So its not likely to happen, as ideal as it would be.

Really the DB/Thieves event making another round might not be so much directly related to shutting down MM as it is just slapping in a filler event of any kind so there at least was an event at all (and one not tied to any specific seasons or lore like New Life or Hallowjack, or something new they'd have to code in).

You might not want the mount, but other people do, so obviously they can't just NOT have any event at all.

I'm pretty sure it was going to be a bit earlier but we're getting the TG/DB one in it's stead. Could be wrong. Don't quote me on it.

You use the word "forced", you open yourself up for it. My point stands. You don't have to subject yourself to it. It's an MMO, one of the hallmarks are doing things you don't like (grinding) to get things you really like. Whether I find the mount to be hideous (Is it a lizard deer? Or a gazelle with really dry skin?) Is of no consequence, It isn't necessary to anyone's gameplay. But having a PvE counterpart to gain tickets is no skin off my back.

I never said there shouldn't be any event. People grinding out those things doesn't bother me in the slightest. I tend to enjoy MM and was looking forward to it But Thieves Guild is one of the worst choices. Would have preferred anything to it. HW/GC is going to be absolutely disgusting and not even worth going to for the double nodes.

thegreatme

Vicinia wrote: »

I never said there shouldn't be any event. People grinding out those things doesn't bother me in the slightest. I tend to enjoy MM and was looking forward to it But Thieves Guild is one of the worst choices. Would have preferred anything to it. HW/GC is going to be absolutely disgusting and not even worth going to for the double nodes.

Oh no, I wasn't meaning to imply you thought there shouldn't be an event. I just meant that the event we did get was probably hastily decided on as an alternative that wouldn't conflict with game lore on being seasonal events, other than doing something like repeating Jesters. And between you and me, I'd rather sooner repeat DB/Thieves than Jesters.

At least the event will give me motivation to up my Haggling passive so I get better fence gold...

khajiitNPC

You guys do realize midyear happened at the beginning of the year? We should be rejoicing if they are actually looking to make it a positive improvement for everywhone.

Palidon

At his point I could care less what ZOS does or does not do. I no longer have a subscription. I will still play their game because I like PvP when you can play it. But they will no longer be getting any money out of me.

corpseblade

Minno wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ArenGesus wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

I’ve took the decision to cancel my eso plus and not make any more crown purchases (typically £30 a month) until the next Mid Year Mayhem. If enough people vote with their wallet they will listen.

If enough people vote with their wallet, they'll shut down the game.

That will work. I mean, anything is better than accepting money from people and not giving them what they've paid for.

remember when their monthly subscribers dropped and they were forced to redesign the game for one tamriel? That is what we should aim for.

"But Minno how do you stop the millions of pve players that are content with the status quo and give zeni their money?"
Great question! Block their access to the endik mount every holiday. I propose we duel and clog the endrik mount area every holiday until the performance is fixed in cyro or pve players quit/send hate whispers which will prompt zeni to act.

I don’t agree with ruining other players gaming experience just because we can’t enjoy our particular part of the game.

Agreed. Besides, ZOS will ruin it for them eventually.

might as well speed up the process. Besides, we aren't ruining anything, just dueling peacefully in an area zeni allows us to duel in.

This is plain obnoxious. Certainly stop pvping, stop subscribing, or switch to another game if performance for you is that bad. However, purposefully trying to destroy the gaming enjoyment of others because it isn't working out for you is plain despicable.

daemonios

corpseblade wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ArenGesus wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

I’ve took the decision to cancel my eso plus and not make any more crown purchases (typically £30 a month) until the next Mid Year Mayhem. If enough people vote with their wallet they will listen.

If enough people vote with their wallet, they'll shut down the game.

That will work. I mean, anything is better than accepting money from people and not giving them what they've paid for.

remember when their monthly subscribers dropped and they were forced to redesign the game for one tamriel? That is what we should aim for.

"But Minno how do you stop the millions of pve players that are content with the status quo and give zeni their money?"
Great question! Block their access to the endik mount every holiday. I propose we duel and clog the endrik mount area every holiday until the performance is fixed in cyro or pve players quit/send hate whispers which will prompt zeni to act.

I don’t agree with ruining other players gaming experience just because we can’t enjoy our particular part of the game.

Agreed. Besides, ZOS will ruin it for them eventually.

might as well speed up the process. Besides, we aren't ruining anything, just dueling peacefully in an area zeni allows us to duel in.

This is plain obnoxious. Certainly stop pvping, stop subscribing, or switch to another game if performance for you is that bad. However, purposefully trying to destroy the gaming enjoyment of others because it isn't working out for you is plain despicable.

I don't PvP but I would support the protest if it happens. Like any other protest, it will annoy some people. It's still justified. As far as I'm concerned, the past year I've been back since taking a break 3 years ago has been almost exclusively ZOS gaslighting players with promises that things will get better. They haven't. It's been a long time. Too long. My sub is due to lapse in a couple of months and I'm feeling I'll drop the game again when it does. The whales can keep paying to keep the game, and the Clown Store, up for a few more years.

corpseblade

daemonios wrote: »

corpseblade wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ArenGesus wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

I’ve took the decision to cancel my eso plus and not make any more crown purchases (typically £30 a month) until the next Mid Year Mayhem. If enough people vote with their wallet they will listen.

If enough people vote with their wallet, they'll shut down the game.

That will work. I mean, anything is better than accepting money from people and not giving them what they've paid for.

remember when their monthly subscribers dropped and they were forced to redesign the game for one tamriel? That is what we should aim for.

"But Minno how do you stop the millions of pve players that are content with the status quo and give zeni their money?"
Great question! Block their access to the endik mount every holiday. I propose we duel and clog the endrik mount area every holiday until the performance is fixed in cyro or pve players quit/send hate whispers which will prompt zeni to act.

I don’t agree with ruining other players gaming experience just because we can’t enjoy our particular part of the game.

Agreed. Besides, ZOS will ruin it for them eventually.

might as well speed up the process. Besides, we aren't ruining anything, just dueling peacefully in an area zeni allows us to duel in.

This is plain obnoxious. Certainly stop pvping, stop subscribing, or switch to another game if performance for you is that bad. However, purposefully trying to destroy the gaming enjoyment of others because it isn't working out for you is plain despicable.

I don't PvP but I would support the protest if it happens. Like any other protest, it will annoy some people. It's still justified. As far as I'm concerned, the past year I've been back since taking a break 3 years ago has been almost exclusively ZOS gaslighting players with promises that things will get better. They haven't. It's been a long time. Too long. My sub is due to lapse in a couple of months and I'm feeling I'll drop the game again when it does. The whales can keep paying to keep the game, and the Clown Store, up for a few more years.

If it is protesting the condition of pvp, why try to harm the experience of those who pve? Specifically what have they done to you? Your issues are with the game developers. It looks and feels like a tantrum.

It bothers you that pve players are enjoying themselves? It annoys you that people spend money on a game that works for them but not for you?

I can't figure out the people who say pvp has been broken for 5 years but are still here. I have been playing mmos for a long time and have left them when they no longer met my needs. In no case did I try to burn the place down on the way out or even dissuade someone else from playing.

Trying to prevent people from completing the event will not stop people from obtaining the indrik mount. Remember they sell the tickets in that crown store you all seem to despise. All you may do with your "protest" is put more money into the crown store. Congratulations.

MajBludd

Oh, well. Too little too late. We already lost a lot of pvp people before this.

Do you think they'll fix performance or break something else in the process?

synnerman

I have to laugh at people saying if this allows them to fix the game then its ok. They won't fix it, look at the bugs that Elsweyr bought with it and we have had 4 weeks of hardly anything being fixed.
They cant even bring themselves to nerf the ridiculous necro bash and bugs that have returned such as the stuck in combat bug etc etc and even 1 week with no maintenance at all.
All this allows them to do is hide what a real mess it would have been under the guise of the last 3 years of the same message of we are trying to fix it.

Moonsorrow

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

You mean the behavior of pointing out to someone who lacks insight, when their reaction to disappointment is over the top?

You do know, the purpose of this whole forum IS to be a platform of reactions. And yes, its also a platform to the reactions to those reactions. All good and fair. And while some peoples emotional scale seems to limit to the "this is fine" level, let others vent out if they so wish. It is not away from you.

Let people be angry, sad, even "over the top" disappointed if they so wish.. it is far more therapeutic and less toxic to get it out of their system this way than in the game for example.

Most "over the top" reactions come after years of disappointments, not just this one thing.. many of us been playing for years and trust me.. hopeful, positive and happy people i knew have slowly during the years turned into negative and frustrated ghosts of their former self.

We hear promises to fix something, we do not even believe it anymore, yet still somehow we hope inside its true this time. Months turn into years of same kind of promises. Years.. bruh.. bruh.. years.. bruh.. years.. bruh.. bruh.. bruh?

So imagine our feelings (all these feels.jpg) when something we like is cancelled on top of spending everyday hours of pushing F button to get into a battleground match to the point that not only has the F button spam become a meme level thing, it actually can take biggest amount of our actual game time. Imagine that for a moment. It is 2019 and the thing we do most in this game is spamming ONE button for hours to get to possibly play what we actually wanna do and what was sold us with real money on Morrowind chapter.

Go do something else than spam F button you say? Okay, i`ll do some Cyrodiil then. But it is primetime, maybe i should not enter.. okay i`m here now anyways, hmm.. gonna go to Chalman, someone called help on it. Wait, why is my ping 300 at Alliance base? Hmm, okay i`ll go to Chally. What is this slideshow? Cannot use bar swap. Oh, disconnected when i entered inside the keep. Great. I`ll load back.. Wait. Disconnected again when i loaded into Cyrodiil. Again disconnected. Okay finally back. Wait, it loaded me back at alliance base. No AP for me from that battle. Great.

Think i will go write a witty comment on the forum instead of dying inside here at Cyrodiil. "lfg for big zerg" someone writes on the zone chat, and someone answers "type unplayable for autoinvite to big zerg" that makes me atleast laugh a bit while i logout from the game.

So.. here we are. With all these feelings, reading about cancellation of our pvp event (while pvp is almost unplayable at primetime, this event been fun atleast on off hours, late nights and early mornings) and some say reactions are "over the top"..?

To those people, i suggest reading what emotional intelligence means. Anyone with any real insight from age and experience would know when is a time to let people just vent a bit without poking them with a stick that has the "tHis iS fiNe" written with crayons on it.

Now you have a most excellent day.

ryzen_gamer_gal

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

WoppaBoem

This event making Cyro unplayable, so I am very happy with this news

Moonsorrow

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Nice that you mention that about repeating stuff.. do you happen to know anyone who goes from topic to topic saying the same "this is fine" type of comments that only gather the good old sarcastic Insightfuls?

ryzen_gamer_gal

Aurielle wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

Wow a BIG F U TO THE PVP’ers. THIS TRIGGERED ME SO HARD, F*** *** ZOS!!!

If you are really triggered by this then maybe you need some professional help more than you need to play the game. Just saying. Take some time and care for your health. Attend an anger management seminar. find a new religion that doesn't disappoint you as much as your current one - which seems to be video gaming.

Lmao HOW WHITE IS THIS KNIGHT ^^^

are women even qualified as knights?

Ser Brienne of Tarth. BOOM.

On topic: while I’m super annoyed that the ONE event we get is cancelled... I’m also glad I won’t have to compete for spots in the queue with whiny PVEers who don’t want to die in a PVP zone just because they’re there for their precious ~*feathers*~ or Caltrops.

You had the event in January, as has been stated multiple times.

Moonsorrow

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Nice that you mention that about repeating stuff.. do you happen to know anyone who goes from topic to topic saying the same "this is fine" type of comments that only gather the good old sarcastic Insightfuls?

Nope, sure cant. But i can see a lot of post where people are engaged in mind reading.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/mind-reading

Ooh, thanks for that link, now i know what you mean, you mean the people who do the mind reading on others who wrote their opinions on a game forum and then tell them they are "over the top" or things like that because as a mind reader they also are the ultimate judges on what are the appropriate reactions people are allowed to have?

One can learn new things everyday.

Kikazaru

On PC/NA, server performance wasn’t as bad as I thought during the midyear encore because many of the guilds decided to spread out to the other campaigns that ZOS opened up. At least, that’s how I remember it on Vivec. I don’t see the need for midyear mayhem to be canceled. What a shame.

Skorro

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

Wow a BIG F U TO THE PVP’ers. THIS TRIGGERED ME SO HARD, F*** *** ZOS!!!

If you are really triggered by this then maybe you need some professional help more than you need to play the game. Just saying. Take some time and care for your health. Attend an anger management seminar. find a new religion that doesn't disappoint you as much as your current one - which seems to be video gaming.

Lmao HOW WHITE IS THIS KNIGHT ^^^

are women even qualified as knights?

Ser Brienne of Tarth. BOOM.

On topic: while I’m super annoyed that the ONE event we get is cancelled... I’m also glad I won’t have to compete for spots in the queue with whiny PVEers who don’t want to die in a PVP zone just because they’re there for their precious ~*feathers*~ or Caltrops.

You had the event in January, as has been stated multiple times.

and the thieves / DB was in March - what's your point?

Coatmagic

BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »

The post was buried in news about the Dark Brotherhood event, but wanted to make sure everyone sees this. No event, no double AP til next year. You're welcome PvPers....they are too busy trying to fix their game.

Good. Maybe now folks will stop with 'nerf this buff that nerf this buff that' BS and scream for what's really needed:

A SEPARATE BLOODY SERVER

(Edited for language oopsie xD)

Moonsorrow

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Nice that you mention that about repeating stuff.. do you happen to know anyone who goes from topic to topic saying the same "this is fine" type of comments that only gather the good old sarcastic Insightfuls?

Nope, sure cant. But i can see a lot of post where people are engaged in mind reading.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/mind-reading

Ooh, thanks for that link, now i know what you mean, you mean the people who do the mind reading on others who wrote their opinions on a game forum and then tell them they are "over the top" or things like that because as a mind reader they also are the ultimate judges on what are the appropriate reactions people are allowed to have?

One can learn new things everyday.

When someone post publicly about how f'ing triggered they are right now in all caps with exclamation points, that's not mind reading to call it over the top.

As stated before in another posts, triggers are specific to ptsd. They are not just anything that annoys you when you you face a disappointment that you chose to use as an excuse to have an online temper tantrum.

Again, you are repeating the same thing.. now what did you earlier say.. something about doing something over and over again is a definition of something.. hmmm.

Did you even for a moment thought about why i mentioned the whole emotional intelligence? As said, let people vent, even in caps as long as it is all inside the forum rules. It is far better to have 1 topic even on full caps, than 100 non-caps topics on the same issue. People who like to vent about things can come here for a good "group therapy" and those whom the issue does not concern do not have to read 100 topics like it messing up the whole forum.

I dont know but.. this is like you having a temper tantrum over someone you feel is having a temper tantrum and you feel they should be quiet about their feelings, thus not being allowed to say their opinions, thus.. not using a forum for what it is up here for us all. You really saying that?

If you manage to look at your behaviour for a moment from the outside, you are acting like a bully. Someone is sad for something that is important to them and said it out loud, you then come and are like "come on little crybaby what ya gonna do, gonna cry on me little ptsd child?" type of talk and wanting attention to you because too hard to just leave someone to vent without having to comment them with trigger attempts?

Seriously omegalul.

And then linking up some psychology stuff. I know people like you. I sure do wish there comes more links.

Aurielle

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

ralphylauren wrote: »

Wow a BIG F U TO THE PVP’ers. THIS TRIGGERED ME SO HARD, F*** *** ZOS!!!

If you are really triggered by this then maybe you need some professional help more than you need to play the game. Just saying. Take some time and care for your health. Attend an anger management seminar. find a new religion that doesn't disappoint you as much as your current one - which seems to be video gaming.

Lmao HOW WHITE IS THIS KNIGHT ^^^

are women even qualified as knights?

Ser Brienne of Tarth. BOOM.

On topic: while I’m super annoyed that the ONE event we get is cancelled... I’m also glad I won’t have to compete for spots in the queue with whiny PVEers who don’t want to die in a PVP zone just because they’re there for their precious ~*feathers*~ or Caltrops.

You had the event in January, as has been stated multiple times.

Um, @ryzen_gamer_gal ? You do realize that for THIS event, we were supposed to be getting new PVP-inspired motifs? And that there were other new Alliance War-themed collectables datamined? The “Midyear Mayhem” event from January was not the traditional MM event; it was the result of ZOS scratching their heads to come up with another event to add to that particular Indrik cycle. That Indrik cycle occured at a time when there traditionally were not a lot of events to draw from, and they needed SOMETHING so people could get their precious ~*feathers*~

Many of us were planning on using this year’s MM to rank up our necromancers. The addition of new collectables was also something to look forward to. I even used some of my annual leave and booked myself off from work for part of MM in anticipation of the event so that I could ensure I was logged in before the campaign queues were stupid. Understand that this is our ONLY event, and that we were looking forward to it. That random MM event at the beginning of the year was NEVER meant to replace the real thing.

VaranisArano

thegreatme wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

People are acting like ZoS wont add an alternate to Mid-Year that will be even better than it was supposed to be, and probably last longer too as an apology.

They do usually try to do this for us. They do care about what you think, but like parents telling their child no, the children still scream unaware that the parent is saying no for a reason.

More or less what I've been trying to say.

There are legitimate reasons to call off/put a hold on an event based on a broken system.

People would still be complaining and threatening "I'll vote with my wallet!" if ZoS went ahead and said "we know this system is broken but we based a WHOLE EVENT on it anyway!"

I would -hope- anyway that ZoS calling off an entire, largely anticipated event, knowing they'd probably get massive backlash for it, means they're going to work on a real fix this time, especially if they're fresh-coding it. Suffice to say I think its obvious, and has been said already, patching bad code isn't going to make it go away.

Fresh slate. Let's hope that means they'll do it right!

They can't have a larger, unanticipated PVP event until they fix performance...

Think about it. PVP is Cyrodiil, Imperial and Battlegrounds.

They explicitly canceled Midyear Mayhem because of performance. They can't do a BG event until they fix Activity Finder. If they do a Cyrodiil event, they will get the same performance issues they always get when there is high demand. IC might actually work properly...but that's a limited portion of PVP.

They can't do any event that's going to scratch the same itch as Midyear Mayhem until they legitimately fix the performance issues.

And they haven't ever managwd to fix or even substantially improve Cyrodiil's performances issues, so I'm skeptical.

rotaugen454

This thread has turned into PvP vs PvE, with a handful of PvP wanting to ruin PvE experience during Dark Brotherhood event. As someone who plays both, I wanted to point out we can ALL be affected by the issues, and we are wanting the devs to make fixes. Yelling at each other causes no positive effects.