ESO classic?

Imperial_Voice

ESOs launch was terrible lol You think anyone who played back then wants to return to Veteran Ranks? I know I don't.

Sheezabeast

While I have nostalgia for the good ole days when Dosha chewed up newbs, I never want to see the amount of bots we had camping delve bosses and spamming chat.

VaranisArano

Ah, that pre One Tamriel nostalgia.

I ran the Pact questline with my SO. When our friends joined the game, we had to make new characters in order to quest with them because we were higher level than them and were locked out of or OP during their quests. And if we were a different faction? Forget about it!

I couldnt beat Blaze or Ragebinder at level 9 on my DK, so I leveled up to 11, came back, and wiped the floor with them.

At level 15, my stamsorc was powerful enough to do level 18 quests...until I hit the artificial miss chance penalty and couldnt progress until I leveled up. Oh, and woe betide the character who did a DLC before base game content, because you'd outlevel your quests.

The vet rank zones were dead. Empty. No need to fight the crowds while shopping! As for Craglorn, vet rank 4 me did plenty of nirncrux farming as long as I stayed on the roads away from the VR 11 wasps.

I farmed Wrothgar for rubedo hides, because that was the only place to get max rank mats besides Cyrodiil.

VR characters in lower level zones felt like gods, able to one shot enemies with a light attack and solo dolmens (yeah, soloing dolmens used to be a challenge). Mind you, lower level zones were useless, since leveled crafting mats were the only reason to go back there.

We had Bind On Equip! Also much less sets than we do now and several really good ones were still VR 14 when the cap was VR 16. So...useless.

Yeah. I really don't subscribe to the pre-One Tamriel nostalgia.

CardboardedBox

Weighted and exploration armor traits

omegatay_ESO

In eso case the current game is much, much better then it was 5 years ago. In eso case you really don't want to play that.

Mettaricana

No the alliance locked characters that had to do vr ranks and never play with friends coupled with the light armor dunmer vampire dk tanks that 1 shotted cyrodiil no cc wrecking blow stun locked forever... bo thanks you can keep dreaming

Jarndyce

No

Aznarb

Classic is just a cheap way to get some fast income with a game in a bad stat.
Lineage II and WoW are good example of this.
Hope we never get classic but main game fix.

Nimrhys

Too busy running and screaming to answer.

Wifeaggro13

Tasear wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Oof, guess you guys dig the crown store, CP, and homogenization then...

Nope they are working on getting us better progression. Clearly the realize taking away class spirit is problem now that they ask for feedback. I am looking at the future.

There really is no way to fix this. They have been breaking that part of the game since tam 1 was introduced,almost every patch since then was designed to homogenize the game to a single dynamic,DPS .worbel had far too much influence on game design frior had a perfect scapegoat. So when his vision of a single player Rpg with online options failed they had some one to blame.

Wifeaggro13

CrisXD wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

ESO was HOOOOORRIBLE when it launched i HATED it back then and didn't even level one character to max lelve - now i absolutly love the game...so this would be a no for me, i don't know how others feel...besides i rather want them to spend resources on new content until we get the complete map with all areas

Yes. ESO was an absolute fail when it launched 5 years ago...it would be like taking 10 steps backwards and there wouldn’t be any players left on the game. No, no, no.

It hardly failed dude. On PC alone it sold 1.2 million copies and retaind 850k subs at 6 month mark. That's hardly a failure for a sub based launch.

CleymenZero

Recremen wrote: »

For all three of the people who would actually play it before realizing the game is the best it's ever been right now.

This.

Valrien

So much hate for ESO launch, when in reality it was a much better time.

Bugs were present sure, but the game was much more challenging.

You didn't one-shot everything just because your character existed. Mobs actually put up a fight.

I truthfully cannot imagine how this mess is the best it's ever been...especially with the Crown Store being pushed for just about everything

P.S. If alliances are an issue then maybe your friends should play on the same alliance as you. It was a war, after all.

Anyone else remember when ZOS promised free updates for just the price of a sub? Pepperidge Farm remembers

tmbrinks

Would I like to play it again (pre 1.6)? Yes, just to see how much has actually changed in the game. I'm still playing my Argonian Templar that I made in the first week (my first character was in a different faction than friends of mine initially so I scrapped him after a day), so it'd be fun to see what has changed in that time.

Outside of about 5-10 hours of nostalgia, the game is in a much, much better spot now than it was at launch.

MyKillv2.0

So many questions.

First off to the people who want this "ESO Launch Day version", do you actually REMEMBER the game when it started? The game was horrible unless you are a Sypher fanboi who loves to do nothing but PvP in overland Cryoland. Remember that at the game's launch, the game thought it was going to be a PvPMMO. On top of this and like with most things that the game does, the launch was rushed and half completed, filled with more bugs than a shady New York City apartment building. What made matters worse was that the game was trying to force the playerbase to do something they obviously did not want (PvP). In defense of the company, the company had no clue what the playerbase really wanted. They just listened to their favorite streamer and thought that was the playerbase he had was the average ESO playerbase. So unless you are apart of the very small group that actually enjoyed THAT game, no one really is going to be craving it like WoW and EQ player bases craved for WoW/EQ requested classic versions.

In complete honesty, ESO is just now getting to where it should have been at launch. As stated earlier, WoW and EQ had the luxury of knowing what type of game they wanted to be from the start. This game thought that it was going to be Fortnite with spells and castles. (I know, ESO predates Fortnite). ESO took about three years to grasp the concept of what game they wanted to become in order to be successful and was centered sometime around Morrowind. By the way, my comments shouldn't be taken as a swipe to the game. The fact is actually admireable and shows the level of committment inside the company to basically change the game on the fly. I respect that about as much as anything that the company does.

However that is off topic. To get back on topic, understand that in reality WoW/EQ "Classic" is actually just WoW/EQ "Basics". So games like WoW/EQ has their "Basic" versions at launch and were able to build on their foundation. ESO's foundation really started with Morrowind and so their version of "Classic" will more than likely be centered around that time frame.

And lastly, have you played these "classic" versions? I know the offical WoW classic will launch later this year but player run versions have been running for a long time. Have you played those? My opinion has always been that it is fun to play older versions a game to reconnect to the time in which the game was launched, fresh, and new but for long term enjoyment, the updated QoL features in both vastly out weigh the "feel good" feelings.

I guess to each his own though. Without question one day ESO Classic will be a thing but I imagine that when it is, you will be shocked to find that you are playing far closer in what we consider "Classic" now.

exeeter702

/facepalm

exeeter702

Aznarb wrote: »

Classic is just a cheap way to get some fast income with a game in a bad stat.
Lineage II and WoW are good example of this.
Hope we never get classic but main game fix.

It is far more involved than that.

tinythinker

I remember the end of ESO beta and the early early access. I liked it. Or I would't have stuck around. I don't think the version then was perfect, nor do I think the version now is either. I am not into actively lobbying for a Classic ESO, but if like Classic WoW it was added in a decade as part of our sub I would check it out.

Jaraal

Tasear wrote: »

Rikumaru wrote: »

ESO back at launch or even in 1.6 would be amazing. Classes actually felt unique back then and you could build some pretty unique and crazy builds on every single class.

@ZOS_RobGarrett is working on I believe. So we will have more class spirit in future.

What? They are trying so hard to make every race and class equal, that would go against their "play as you want" vision.


I'd love a classic ESO. Then the lore would make sense, and I could level again. But it would have to have Homestead.

Iccotak

The only thing I miss from "Classic" is the original introduction and Tutorial and is the only thing I think should return

Otherwise ESO is in a GREAT Spot

Yigrok

Valrien wrote: »

With the advent of WoW classic, would it be possible to get an ESO classic set sometime before the lighting patch?

Or at least before Tamriel Unlimited

No, if you ever played back then, you would know why.
The game improved so much in the span of 5 years that having a "classic" gimmick server would not bring anything to the game.

Also, eso is built in a way that a "classic" server would never work. That is of course, if they manage not to make any really bad changes to the game.

xMovingTarget

eso 1.5 or earlier had not much content. All we did was standing in belkarth 24/7. There is no need for eso classic. Only 3 trials, far less dungeons.
And even back then, we did the crag trials within 7 minutes.

Here you have 1.5 sanctum speed run. Only very very few managed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCQ3jDvWlsM&list=PLahbNxsudVfzSJS22sHFJdXCXZ4Uq7IB7&index=45&t=0s

I liked the DK bck then, but all 1.5 and earlier was : play DK or go home

perolord

One of them TROLL posts...

ESO is by far atm the best mmorpg and i like it alot.

Regarding wow classic, this will be popular just for a month or 2... as long as ppl see, how long it takes to lvl up, and not to mention 40 man raids (at this point, it takes 2-3 hours just to organize 40 ppl...)...and then it will be boring...

Trust me, i have been there in Vanilla, played it.. but MMORPG genre came far from then and it needs to evolve even more...

DBZVelena

I played beta, reported why i thought being unable to play with my friends was crap then didn't touch the game until after one tamriel. BECAUSE being unable to play with your friends was a big issue to me.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

Valrien wrote: »

Oof, guess you guys dig the crown store, CP, and homogenization then...

I have np with the Crown Store and enjoy the game just as much or more than ever. I generally am not a fan of "classic" servers in mmo's.

Iluvrien

Valrien wrote: »

With the advent of WoW classic, would it be possible to get an ESO classic set sometime before the lighting patch?

Or at least before Tamriel Unlimited

Yes please.

At that point I thought that ZOS were in it for more than just the profit. Profit yes, obviously. But also something more. I was even defending them days before the B2P announcement saying that they wouldn't turn their back on the vision laid out in the pre-launch interviews.

Ye gods was I wrong.

Thoragaal

Valrien wrote: »

With the advent of WoW classic, would it be possible to get an ESO classic set sometime before the lighting patch?

Or at least before Tamriel Unlimited

"You think you do, but you don't".. you really don't want that..

MikaHR

Valrien wrote: »

So much hate for ESO launch, when in reality it was a much better time.

Bugs were present sure, but the game was much more challenging.

You didn't one-shot everything just because your character existed. Mobs actually put up a fight.

I truthfully cannot imagine how this mess is the best it's ever been...especially with the Crown Store being pushed for just about everything

P.S. If alliances are an issue then maybe your friends should play on the same alliance as you. It was a war, after all.

Anyone else remember when ZOS promised free updates for just the price of a sub? Pepperidge Farm remembers

Yeah and the game died within 6 months.

So much "better" time, right?

twev

MikaHR wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

So much hate for ESO launch, when in reality it was a much better time.

Bugs were present sure, but the game was much more challenging.

You didn't one-shot everything just because your character existed. Mobs actually put up a fight.

I truthfully cannot imagine how this mess is the best it's ever been...especially with the Crown Store being pushed for just about everything

P.S. If alliances are an issue then maybe your friends should play on the same alliance as you. It was a war, after all.

Anyone else remember when ZOS promised free updates for just the price of a sub? Pepperidge Farm remembers

Yeah and the game died within 6 months.

So much "better" time, right?

The game certainly didn't 'died within 6 months', but too often since the crown store turned into a goldmine for them - I feel microtransactioned to the point where It seems like they're trying to wring out the player's wallet to the point of it needing CPR.

MikaHR

The game is perfectly playable without spending any money besides initial purchase.

Not to mention $60 purchase +$15/month was MANDATORY at launch.

And the game certainly DID die within 6 months.