PTS Update 21 - Feedback Thread for Frostvault

TheNightflame

Giving it more thought, the skeevatron phase is actually really nice on hardmode! it's challenging but I love that it's not about build or anything like that, just coordination, timing, and skill. I don't think it needs a nerf but it 100000% should have a book about the skills before the boss fight. deaths should not be wasted reading what the skills are while the timer ticks down.

TheNightflame

more justification for not nerfing it (because honestly, outside of reading the skeevatron skills, it feels pretty fair (super super hard, but fair)) hardmode only gives a title. people won't complain that a title is hard to get

code65536

The skeevaton mechanic in HM at first seemed near impossible, but after (too) many pulls, it's gotten much easier, and we are now starting to get past it with a little bit of consistency. That said, I'm running with a stable premade group, and it took hours to get to the point where we are seeing the second phase of the HM fight. Having a consistent group of the same people who you always run with and having that amount of time is not a luxury that many people have. I'm just imagining what it'd be like if one of us had to drop and we'd have to bring in someone new--how long would it take to bring them up to speed and practiced with all the new mechanics?

So, yes, with lots of practice, the skeevaton mechanic has gotten much easier and isn't as daunting as it was initially. But I still don't think that it's appropriate.

code65536

PS: @ZOS_MikaS The moderator action that you took on this thread has broken it somehow. Recent posts are no longer bumping the thread up. I had to look on page 2 of the PTS forum to find this thread, and even after making a post, it's still stuck on page 2 of the PTS forum.

CC: @ZOS_GinaBruno

Aliyavana

ok I replayed this dungeon, and I gotta say... whoever did the skeevaton idea deserves a raise, it is fun!

Aliyavana

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_MikaS I also gotta comment that it is true what @code65536 said, the thread isn't going to the first page anymore and as a result, it is getting buried

TheNightflame

ironic bump edit: having the same group seems perfectly fine for a dlc dungeon hardmode. for trial progressions it works that way just the same, but the dungeon prog is over in a matter of hours over one or two days vs multiple days/weeks that trials take. The fact this hardmode gets reasonably doable with practice shows it's fairly fair! please keep it (or at least close to it's current difficulty)

ZOS_Ragnar

We have fixed the issue where this thread was not going to the top when posted in.

Joosef_Kivikilpi

myskyrim26 wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

Dear @ZOS_Finn
I'm sorry, but you you totally miss one very important thing about a story being a so-called "reward". There are 2 types of players here:
- players of type 1 are interested in COMBAT aspect of ESO. They work on their builds, the run 4-player dungeons for achievements, new gear, new monster sets, motifs and etc. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STORY. They skip dialogues, they never even look around to appreciate a great job done on the environment. They are CLOSING CONTENT. THE DON"T NEED YOUR STORIES. They don't care.

- players of type 2 are interested in STORY AND LORE aspect of ESO. They NEVER DO DUNGEONS. Because they can't do them. Because it is impossible to do a story in a team. A lot of comments from such players are here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453375/solo-dungeon-mode-please/p1 WE, STORY-ORIENTED PLAYERS NEED THIS STORY, NOT PLAYERS WHO SPEEDRUN AND CHALLENGE HARDMODES.

And then there is the group of players who do both groups' sides of the story and the dungeons and pvp etc, doing their best to get the most out of all the game has to offer, and are extremely excited for this whole year combining everything into a fantastic year long quest.

TheNightflame

^ There are very few games that are purely story and no gameplay. Almost every video game that invested any amount of time into a combat system requires you to use that system to progress the story. I think it's very fair that eso asks you to complete a normal dlc dungeon to add a bit to the year long story. This isn't a cinematic video game

Reistr_the_Unbroken

Olith wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

Are you equally excited to not bring this experience to players which don't enjoy your group content? I made the mistake to insta-buy the whole thing when I heard about Elsweyr, dragons, necromancers... Now I can watch it on Twitch or Youtube if I want to experience that cool story element. Great.

ZoS is going to get severe backlash for locking a story behind a dungeon DLC. Even worse they’re just waving it off as nothing, and in fact seem pleased with locking many players out in favor of groups. I’d ask for a refund for buying Elsweyr but apparently Microsoft doesn’t give refunds for digital purchases, working or not.

Alcast

Did you enjoy this new dungeon?
Yes, not many trashpack fights but a good amount of bosses with cool mechanics.
How did the difficulty compare to existing dungeons on Normal and Veteran versions?
I did veteran with hardmode. The first two bosses are easy, the next two are medium difficulty and the last one with hardmode is a beast on its own. I produced a lot of salt during the hardmode.
Did you complete Normal or Veteran (or both)?
Veteran
Which was your favorite boss in this dungeon, and why?
The last boss, I really enjoyed the skeevaton mechanic. Took us a while to figure out the mechanic, but that is what made it so fun I guess?
What level and build was the character you used?
Skill setup was standard dps setup with some heals attached to it and sets I used those:
https://eso-sets.com/set/twice-fanged-serpent
https://eso-sets.com/set/berserking-warrior
https://eso-sets.com/set/mighty-chudan
Do you have any other general feedback?
It looks to me like it became "normal" to slap on heavy healing debuffs on all the mechanics (like in blackrose prison) to combat the broken Cp system and many other stuff...nobody likes extreme healing debuffs. Sometimes in the Skeevaton phase, after a fire there will be spinning blades that shoot shock balls. There is no way to avoid them, I think it would be good to reduce the range of the shockballs a little bit.

Would be cool to get some sort of explanation on the skeevaton phase in terms of skills. You are on a timer and when yo go in there first thing you have to do is screenshot all the skills and check on them...I think that should not be the case. Give us some sort of "manual book" that we can read with icons displayed what is what.

Video:
https://youtu.be/NOURvxKxvkU

Also please keep in mind, EU players have to endure the 250ping gameplay...so a lot of things hit is which normally would not be the case on the live server with a 80 ping. #wtbEUpts It is very discouraging to see that no effort at all is taken to make the PTS experience for EU players more enjoyable.

LiraTaurwen

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Olith wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

Are you equally excited to not bring this experience to players which don't enjoy your group content? I made the mistake to insta-buy the whole thing when I heard about Elsweyr, dragons, necromancers... Now I can watch it on Twitch or Youtube if I want to experience that cool story element. Great.

ZoS is going to get severe backlash for locking a story behind a dungeon DLC. Even worse they’re just waving it off as nothing, and in fact seem pleased with locking many players out in favor of groups. I’d ask for a refund for buying Elsweyr but apparently Microsoft doesn’t give refunds for digital purchases, working or not.

No one is locking anyone from doing anything... it's people's choice. If you people were more reasonable you would be asking for a simple feature to help with completing quest in dungeons, which is make it so that when your group disbands your character can stay longer inside the dungeon, other than that it's your choice if you do the content available to you or not.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Olith wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

Are you equally excited to not bring this experience to players which don't enjoy your group content? I made the mistake to insta-buy the whole thing when I heard about Elsweyr, dragons, necromancers... Now I can watch it on Twitch or Youtube if I want to experience that cool story element. Great.

ZoS is going to get severe backlash for locking a story behind a dungeon DLC. Even worse they’re just waving it off as nothing, and in fact seem pleased with locking many players out in favor of groups. I’d ask for a refund for buying Elsweyr but apparently Microsoft doesn’t give refunds for digital purchases, working or not.

No one is locking anyone from doing anything... it's people's choice. If you people were more reasonable you would be asking for a simple feature to help with completing quest in dungeons, which is make it so that when your group disbands your character can stay longer inside the dungeon, other than that it's your choice if you do the content available to you or not.

Um, yeah they kinda are? Especially when a dev wrote this:
"If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think?"
And it’s not simple to find other reasonable people to try the dungeon when A. most of them just do speed runs, and skip the diolaugue anyways, or kick you if your slow, or B. Every year the “normal” dungeon DLC’s get ramped up to that of vet mode, getting more difficult than the last one.
Yes it’s our choice, but not so when other people choose to just skip through the entire story and don’t let you read or get to choose any of it.

Artim_X

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Olith wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

Are you equally excited to not bring this experience to players which don't enjoy your group content? I made the mistake to insta-buy the whole thing when I heard about Elsweyr, dragons, necromancers... Now I can watch it on Twitch or Youtube if I want to experience that cool story element. Great.

ZoS is going to get severe backlash for locking a story behind a dungeon DLC. Even worse they’re just waving it off as nothing, and in fact seem pleased with locking many players out in favor of groups. I’d ask for a refund for buying Elsweyr but apparently Microsoft doesn’t give refunds for digital purchases, working or not.

No one is locking anyone from doing anything... it's people's choice. If you people were more reasonable you would be asking for a simple feature to help with completing quest in dungeons, which is make it so that when your group disbands your character can stay longer inside the dungeon, other than that it's your choice if you do the content available to you or not.

Um, yeah they kinda are? Especially when a dev wrote this:
"If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think?"
And it’s not simple to find other reasonable people to try the dungeon when A. most of them just do speed runs, and skip the diolaugue anyways, or kick you if your slow, or B. Every year the “normal” dungeon DLC’s get ramped up to that of vet mode, getting more difficult than the last one.
Yes it’s our choice, but not so when other people choose to just skip through the entire story and don’t let you read or get to choose any of it.

The DLC dungeons this year (on normal) are easier than the Wolfhunter ones. Telling people that you are doing the quest at the start of a dungeon can help ensure that you'll be able to read everything.

Auldjohn

Make Frostvault more friendly in Normal mode.

Suggestion: Add an LFG specifically for Frostvault.

Yesterday during a time when many players were gathered outside at the entrance I tried to form a PUG. After not one single response from more than a dozen players I had to enter solo. My Max CP Khajiit Templar template toon was well equipped and buffed.

Nevertheless, heading downslope in the delve I encountered a solo minor foe. It killed me with a one-shot.

Frostvault is too hostile to be remotely considered fun. The only thing I learned was to not even enter it solo and to find a way to form a well-balanced PUG.

GlorphNoldorin

Alcast said


Also please keep in mind, EU players have to endure the 250ping gameplay...so a lot of things hit is which normally would not be the case on the live server with a 80 ping. #wtbEUpts It is very discouraging to see that no effort at all is taken to make the PTS experience for EU players more enjoyable. [/quote]

250 ping on PTS......... ha ha ha ..............

Oceanic players have to endure 300+ on live.....so how do you think we feel in vma, every recent hm dlc and vet trial? ( I am looking at you vet hm Scalecaller) Is it too much to ask the devs to take in to account that relatively few have the ping Alcast can achieve on live?

andy_s

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

250 ping on PTS......... ha ha ha ..............

Oceanic players have to endure 300+ on live.....so how do you think we feel in vma, every recent hm dlc and vet trial? ( I am looking at you vet hm Scalecaller) Is it too much to ask the devs to take in to account that relatively few have the ping Alcast can achieve on live?

I agree, imagine playing from the Moon with 5s ping, we need an offline version asap!!1

Artim_X

Auldjohn wrote: »

Make Frostvault more friendly in Normal mode.

Suggestion: Add an LFG specifically for Frostvault.

Yesterday during a time when many players were gathered outside at the entrance I tried to form a PUG. After not one single response from more than a dozen players I had to enter solo. My Max CP Khajiit Templar template toon was well equipped and buffed.

Nevertheless, heading downslope in the delve I encountered a solo minor foe. It killed me with a one-shot.

Frostvault is too hostile to be remotely considered fun. The only thing I learned was to not even enter it solo and to find a way to form a well-balanced PUG.

The first group of enemies (even if you didn't notice they're were more than one) shows you which small sized enemies utilize a knockdown (block or dodge their attacks), the importance of killing skysplitters (causes red aoe under you that builds up and explode. Gotta be defensive when that happens), and to not underestimate the harriers (easy to kill, but will burst down a teammate with arrows if left alone and they will attack from a long distance if enemies in the area are aggroed).

I'm fairly certain that your fully geared max CP template toon will have an easier time getting to the first boss if you focused on the harriers and then the skysplitters before killing everything else. However, the first boss does require someone to save you so that's as far as one can go solo for the most part (maybe a 60K+ DPS player can melt the first boss before the mechanic triggers. I personally can't kill it fast enough).

code65536

We finally got the HM down. It is insane. At its current level of difficulty, it needs a vitality pool, a scoring mechanism, a leaderboard, and a rebranding to "4-person trial".

brookus

> Did you enjoy this new dungeon?

Yup, was fun and I still like the skeevatron mechanic even on HM. However, I can see it getting old pretty quickly.

> Did you complete Normal or Veteran (or both)?

Vet HM

> Which was your favorite boss in this dungeon, and why?

Stonekeeper, even though as a tank, he is a pain in the butt.

> What level and build was the character you used?

CP 810 Tank DK running, Crest of Cyro, Plague Doctor and Chudan

> Do you have any other general feedback?

As mentioned by code and others, HM is *very* hard. The learning curve just to figure out the skeevatron maze takes a long while. The healing debuff on HM is also fairly extreme. You pretty much force a healer to case shields rather than actual heals. You spend the non-debuff time regaining resources. In addition, the steam cones on the third phase being unblockable and death by knockback is a bit crazy when the flame cone looks exactly the same. I would maybe suggest making either making the steam cone blockable or at least, not knock back as far (so an insta-death) through block.

For the Vault Protector fight, it might be good to make the sphere/spider adds chainable. That might help reduce the situations where dps are stuck due to lasers taking an empowered aoe.

This is by far the hardest dungeon so far and makes one wish to return to the fun of stranglers of MoS hunt phases.

code65536

The issue that I had with the steam cone when I tried my hand at tanking non-HM earlier in the week (and "pain in the butt" for the tank is putting it mildly) is that the fire cone tracks me, so I need to stand still in order to not spray the healer or anyone else near me, but I absolutely can't stand still if it's a steam cone. And the two cone telegraphs do look kinda similar...

brookus wrote: »

fun of stranglers of MoS hunt phases.

Heresy.

Eliahnus

Please, do NOT lock story behind DLC dungeons; I cannot believe you thought that was a good idea ...

munster1404

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

@ZOS_Finn Will compulsory dungeons completion in order to progress the story be a feature in future chapters? Simple, stress free overland content/questing to pass the time is what I do primarily in this game. Vanilla dungeons are tough enough as it is and I have no wish to attempt any of the DLC dungeons due to the mechanics involved. The No rewards solo story mode suggested by some forum users seem like a great idea and should be implemented for the earlier DLC dungeons as well.

code65536

munster1404 wrote: »

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

The story is connected to the Season of the Dragon in that, assisting Tharayya in getting both halves of the Wrathstone tablet in Frostvault and Depths of Malatar provides context for how Abnur Tharn has them in the prologue quest. If you do not do the Dungeons, that's fine, some other adventurers helped him... but if you did, its an awesome pay off to see your hard work in the Dungeons with your friends be rewarded with a cool story element, don't you think? It's not something that has happened before and we are excited to finally bring this experience to players who enjoy our group content.

@ZOS_Finn Will compulsory dungeons completion in order to progress the story be a feature in future chapters? I have no wish to attempt any of the DLC dungeons due to the mechanics involved. Simple, stress free overland content/questing to pass the time is what I do primarily in this game. The No rewards solo story mode suggested by some forum users seem like a great idea and should be implemented for the earlier DLC dungeons as well.

1. It's not compulsory.
2. You don't need it to progress the story. There's a prologue quest that will be unlocked later this year. These dungeons are the optional prologue to that prologue quest.
3. This is not unprecedented. You can think of Halls of Fabrication (12-person trial, even less accessible than a dungeon) as a prologue to the Clockwork City. If you've done HoF, then Fyr makes a mention of it and why that's why he wanted you when you start the CwC questline. If you haven't done HoF, then there's no such dialog. Same thing here: the story proceeds the exact same whether you do the dungeons or not, you just get an acknowledgement if you do.
4. Why doesn't anyone complain about Craglorn? The Craglorn story line is punctuated by two trials and culminates with a third trial. These are not "flavor dialog" prologues--they're integral to the story and are needed to fully complete the narrative.

It's a good thing that dungeon and trial content are given context and are able to fit in with the greater picture, instead of being things that are randomly bolted on.

They're not "compulsory". They're not integral to the story. If you do them, you get a bit of a fluff in the dialog. Again, these dungeons aren't even the prologue--they are the prologue to the prologue. People need to understand that and stop blowing things out of proportion.

And you can always do them on normal mode. Yes, I've written a lot about the difficulty of this dungeon, but that's specifically for vet and vet hard mode, not normal mode.

Icy

Did you enjoy this new dungeon?
Very much. It was great fun. I liked the skeeverton boss fight section, but I can see having to do that multiple times would get old very quickly.

How did the difficulty compare to existing dungeons on Normal and Veteran versions?
Seemed similar on normal to the non-dlc dungeons - so good in that respect. Also liked the slightly shorter length.

Did you complete Normal or Veteran (or both)?
Just normal with 3 top level players.

Which was your favorite boss in this dungeon, and why?
My LEAST fav boss was the first frost troll

What level and build was the character you used?
Full CP pet sorc

Do you have any other general feedback?
The gate after the second boss shuts and you can't get thru if you stay and listen to the conversation. We had to restart the dungeon.
Who brings a horse into a dungeon????

I DON'T like the auto teleport to people. If there is one person running ahead of the tank, they deserve to die or wait. Missed some of the story because one person just ran on thru and we were teleported to them, even tho there were more people in the "back" group.

profundidob16_ESO

code65536 wrote: »

We finally got the HM down. It is insane. At its current level of difficulty, it needs a vitality pool, a scoring mechanism, a leaderboard, and a rebranding to "4-person trial".

Congratulations, as ever you continue to lead the PTS testing front line troops and I'm sure if any blatant bugs have become apparent you most likely have posted them already

Olith

code65536 wrote: »

1. It's not compulsory.
2. You don't need it to progress the story. There's a prologue quest that will be unlocked later this year. These dungeons are the optional prologue to that prologue quest.
3. This is not unprecedented. You can think of Halls of Fabrication (12-person trial, even less accessible than a dungeon) as a prologue to the Clockwork City. If you've done HoF, then Fyr makes a mention of it and why that's why he wanted you when you start the CwC questline. If you haven't done HoF, then there's no such dialog. Same thing here: the story proceeds the exact same whether you do the dungeons or not, you just get an acknowledgement if you do.
4. Why doesn't anyone complain about Craglorn? The Craglorn story line is punctuated by two trials and culminates with a third trial. These are not "flavor dialog" prologues--they're integral to the story and are needed to fully complete the narrative.

It's a good thing that dungeon and trial content are given context and are able to fit in with the greater picture, instead of being things that are randomly bolted on.

They're not "compulsory". They're not integral to the story. If you do them, you get a bit of a fluff in the dialog. Again, these dungeons aren't even the prologue--they are the prologue to the prologue. People need to understand that and stop blowing things out of proportion.

And you can always do them on normal mode. Yes, I've written a lot about the difficulty of this dungeon, but that's specifically for vet and vet hard mode, not normal mode.

In other words: There is no "overarching year-long story" as advertised.

profundidob16_ESO

Guys I really do not understand what all the "story" fuss is about.

*SPOILER ALERT*


About 1 hour after the PTS came up I talked to Abnur Tharn in the castle. In his prologue dialogue he informs me the complete story: that Tharayya managed to recover 2 stones from 2 dungeons and sold them to him for a fortune and so the story begins...


The 2 new wrathstone dungeons just give you a chance to experience what you already hear from Abnur anyway but experience it first hand as live action. It doesn't add to that storyline and you don't miss anything if you never do the dungeon. It's just a chance for you to experience first hand as a dungeon crawl what Abnur tells you in words anyway during his prologue dialogue. So you don't miss out on any story at all.

Seriously stop all the drama !

code65536

Some notes about NPC voiceovers:

Too little:

When we entered a Skeevaton phase for the first time on HM, the NPC had apparently said to me something along lines of "That's an assault model, it doesn't have the ability to absorb energy, but it can destroy animunculi".

This line of dialog happened only once. When we wiped and pulled again, she doesn't say anything. It's why I didn't notice this line of dialog that first day we worked on HM, because that first time was a hectic mess, and she was silent on subsequent pulls.

It's an important piece of information--that the assault skeevaton doesn't have the ability to disable pylons (something that we didn't figure out until after half a dozen trips to the skeevaton phase) (also, the dialog she gives doesn't seem technically correct--IIRC, she says something about not absorbing energy, but we can absorb energy, it's just that our ultimate is a damage ultimate that doesn't disable pylons)--and it's easily missable because she mentions it only once per instance.

Too much:

The body is immune! You have to find a part of him that's vulnerable!

Yes, Tharayya, I know. You've only yelled that out a hundred times tonight. She says that line way too often (I wonder, is it because my ground DoTs are hitting the body?). And, most annoyingly, she says that line even after the first phase of the fight. Getting past the first phase of the fight requires that we deal with that mechanic, and so it stands to reason that anyone in the second phase of the fight already knows exactly what to do with those arms already.

Just right:

For the skeevaton mechanic, have Tharayya say that line of dialog every pull, but only on the first skeevaton mechanic, between the first and second phases of the fight.

For the "hit the arms, not the body" hint, have her say it only during the first phase of the fight. It gets really tiresome hearing that in the later phases.

Bonus: For the lurcher boss in MHK, can we please have that NPC say her lines just once per pull? I don't know about you, but I really don't want to hear about those "spreeggans" ever again.