Poll: Are you satisfied with the upcoming changes to racials?

Darkstorne

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

I still think this would be massively improved by adding morphs to racials. These are a fantastic baseline to start from, but if ZOS want us to embrace the "any race / any playstyle" mantra, then morphs would be a great way to achieve that.

carlos424

All this does is address power creep. Less resource pools and recovery for dps. No reason to play dark elf over altmer.

myskyrim26

I hate them! Just nerfs and nothing really exciting!

I hate any changes to classes, skills and races. I'm tired of getting used to this damned game again and again. What a crap...

Elsonso

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Until I see it on PTS, this is just reading material.

adeptusminor

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

For a first pass, they look mostly good. A few tweaks here and there and I think it's a solid change.

AcadianPaladin

Quite underwhelming overall!

My Bosmer mages had racials that tried to force them to be stam characters. Nothing is changing in that regard. Okay, they can block better than other mages and they are cute as a button. *disappointed panda*

Ragnaroek93

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Good changes for the way ZOS balances the game (making specific races shine in specific scenarios, so everything has a niche). Only the changes to Dunmer are bad.

jenny32x

This nerfing is basically a bad idea. I`ve seen it already 10 years ago with WoW.

And these are the main reasons why:


You can work with percentages but not with fixed numbers. Which means it punishes those people who put an effort into building and optimizing their characters. Unfortunately thats the very same people who put effort into organizing group activities. Which means you end up with fewer raid groups available for those guys who are too lazy to optimize their builds. Which makes all your beautiful raid dungeons pointless. The casual players you are favoring never get these 12 player groups organized.

Also the tolerance towards players with non optimal characters will DROP. Right now two seasoned players can drag two poor players through a normal group dungeon easily. With your nerfing you`ll end that. There will be no more tolerance towards noobs and that will reduce group activities.

profundidob16_ESO

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Breton healers and imperial tanks ftw. gogogo !

Ananoriel

Quite underwhelming overall!

Eh... I would prefer % stats overall. On the long term it sounds like its all nerfed.

The xpgain on skilllines look good at first sight, but also on long term it doesn't matter at all.

carlos424

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Good changes for the way ZOS balances the game (making specific races shine in specific scenarios, so everything has a niche). Only the changes to Dunmer are bad.

Some things just seem so out of touch. Dumner changes for instance. Does ZOS not realize that the only reason people chose Dumner over Altmer was for the extra fire damage? Even then there was a decision to be made, because you would lose some recovery. Now they took the choice out of the equation. This doesn’t seem like rocket science.

Fruity_Ninja

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Good changes I like the idea behind them, and some of the 'weaker' races now seem more interesting as well!

Bigevilpeter

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Not that the changed the principal on why people wanted racial passives adjusted, they just basically shifted the meta which is quite fun and refreshing

profundidob16_ESO

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

myskyrim26 wrote: »

I hate any changes to classes, skills and races. I'm tired of getting used to this damned game again and again. What a crap...

Can I have all your stuff when you leave ?

Salvas_Aren

Quite underwhelming overall!

I can throw away my Khajiit and make a Nordblade. Nordblade is the new meta.

Latios

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Guess we’ll have more viable options for PvE, and PvP may see the birth of more hybrid playstyles. Khajit is very strong now, but they could have done better with the nord.

I see, however, very strong S/B DK nord builds in PvP coming up.

I’ll most likely change my main to an orc.

Sanctuary_Reaper

I hate them! Just nerfs and nothing really exciting!

Happy for my breton templar, unhappy that my fave race got well and truly bummed, dunmer.

MythicEmperor

ZOS, don't touch the racials. Keep them as they are now!

They killed Dunmer. Before, there was a choice between Dunmer and Altmer, but now...?

Actually_Goku

Make it a choice system. A tiered, choice system.

Tier 1: pick either max Stam, Mag, Health, or a combination of the 2 or 3 (obviously dividends taken into account)

Tier 2: when you do damage, you get back x amount of x resource

Tier 3: you have x amount of resistance against x type of damage, and do x amount more of x type of damage.

Then we have balance, as everyone has the same choices. The Elder Scrolls series is based on you making your character, the way you want the character.

Tasear

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

Some give and take is what I call real balance.

xxthir13enxx

Quite underwhelming overall!

Meh...just delete them all and wipe the slate clean....there...Balance....everybody gets nothing....save the time n effort of coding.

O_LYKOS

I hate them! Just nerfs and nothing really exciting!

I would have liked to have magicka passives on my khajiit.

carlos424

Khajiit using thief mundus with mother’s sorrow and sororia could be viable magicka dps. Probably around 70% crit. Or use apprentice for spell damage and 60%+ crit. Could be interesting. Better than Dunmer, thats for sure. Lol

carlos424

Carbonised wrote: »

Dunmer arguably got the worst shaft with this. Trying to push a race into a hybrid role when hybrids are completely unviable in this game is nothing but abuse. "Freedom to play as you like" then make altmers leagues above anyone else for all mag dps. Wtf??

Yep. At least there is some choice with current system “more fire damage, but lose recovery, or more recovery with a little less damage?” Now there would be no choice.

Ermiq

Nice changes, I'm mostly fine with them.

ZOS are trying to get rid of "meta-races for meta-builds" gameplay. The changes and the goals are good. Not sure if current numbers and maths are okay though, but however I like the course they choose.

SaintSubwayy

ZOS, don't touch the racials. Keep them as they are now!

Eremith wrote: »

ZOS are trying to get rid of "meta-races for meta-builds" gameplay. The changes and the goals are good. Not sure if current numbers and maths are okay though, but however I like the course they choose.

There will always be a Meta, as long *** there are plyers playing the game and try to do it the most efficient way.

You cannot remove a Meta, only change it.

new meta will probably mee Altmer for all Mag DPS, so they only shifted from Dunmer and altmer to Altmer and maybe breton.

Tank meta is still argonian.

Healer meta may be breton now, but not so into healing so we'll see.

Kuramas9tails

Great changes, I love them!

phairdon wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

High Elf is alright i guess? Not that drastic? But KHAJIIT! Khajiit mages are now a thing!

My oldest character is a khajiit mage

Bless you! I caved in and changed my main Mageblade from a Khajiit to a High Elf when the resource nerf hit over a year ago. But I still have my VMOL progression videos of me as a Mageblade Khajiit and my first VMA clear as a MageKhajiit!

DaveMoeDee

ZOS, don't touch the racials. Keep them as they are now!

I don't care about the details of the changes. I just don't like rebalancing without giving players an ability to adjust for free. A single race change token for 15 characters is silly.

And it isn't like they haven't done this nonsense before. Without a guarantee this won't happen again, I am not a fan. Give us all a window to change all characters without paying them money. It is not okay to use rebalancing to make money.

Tough decision whether to delete some characters or stick with their builds. All that horse training, bag expansion (which is one of the most expensive things in-game), and wasted inspiration/research is tough to swallow.

I am crying a little for my Dunmer DK alt, the most likely atm to get the race change token.

essi2

Indifferent - some of my racials got nerfed, some got buffed...

I'm going to have to do a pass on my resources on some characters, others are probably stronger now.

We'll see.

carlos424

So classes that deal a lot of magic damage will get a buff to those skills, due to flat increase in spell damage, and where magic damage was not previoulsy buffed (only fire, shock, and ice). (Templar comes to mind.). However, all magicka-based dps will see a sizeable decrease to magicka pool. If you were an altmer and had a base magicka pool of 35000, you will lose 1500 max magicka. If it was 40k, you will lose 2k, if my math is right.