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Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

  • Firstmep
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    In cp maybe. In no cp, mainly in bgs good luck with running with minimal defenses. Burst us very high, so is dot dmg.
    I dont know what type of players you are tanking in no cp, especially 10+ but id wager to say that you are exaggerate a bit.
    I fought magplars this patch that run very offensuve builds and they fold to burst very quick still.
  • technohic
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    I went back stamplar. Magplar was barely a comparable brawler when compared to stam but now it's more of a DOT up and just charge in to finish up.

    On the other hand, people have not really moved beyond DOTs much to see what you can do with the 2h ultimate and executioner. Had a guy come out a keep door last night, tanky and looking probably to lure people into some oils. Got the off balance and crit on onslaught and it was good night. I need to look at some mag recovery though. Or get rid of toppling
    Edited by technohic on August 16, 2019 11:00AM
  • MaTaHgA
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    Extended ritual or RoR? What's better to use?
  • Firstmep
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    technohic wrote: »
    I went back stamplar. Magplar was barely a comparable brawler when compared to stam but now it's more of a DOT up and just charge in to finish up.

    On the other hand, people have not really moved beyond DOTs much to see what you can do with the 2h ultimate and executioner. Had a guy come out a keep door last night, tanky and looking probably to lure people into some oils. Got the off balance and crit on onslaught and it was good night. I need to look at some mag recovery though. Or get rid of toppling

    Yh mostly seeing dw dotplars everywhere.
    Meanwhile im 2-3shotting ppl in no cp with dizzy and onslaught.
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.

    Its clear that they want us to focus on singe target dmg more, probably to reduce calculations and improve performance.
    The aoe heal changes also point that way.
  • No_Division
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    I think old camo hunter bug is back lol.
  • NBrookus
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    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    Extended ritual or RoR? What's better to use?

    RoR legit does a lot of damage and healing now. But you're gonna miss the purges.
  • maxjapank
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    I think old camo hunter bug is back lol.

    What was the bug?
  • EtTuBrutus
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    I think old camo hunter bug is back lol.

    What was the bug?

    You get to equip capes
  • No_Division
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    I think old camo hunter bug is back lol.

    What was the bug?

    hitting the skill couple of times and then hitting people with any fast cheap skill (this case light attack and silver leash morph that just deals damage). An AD nigthblade is doing it early morning timeslot if you care to see for yourself lol.
  • NBrookus
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    I tested it just now and it didn't seem bugged.
  • No_Division
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    I tested it just now and it didn't seem bugged.

    hmmm i wonder what dropped my health from 90-10 with only light attack/sliver leash?
  • Kartalin
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    I tested it just now and it didn't seem bugged.

    hmmm i wonder what dropped my health from 90-10 with only light attack/sliver leash?
    Crushing weapon + empower on the LA?

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  • No_Division
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    NBrookus wrote: »
    I tested it just now and it didn't seem bugged.

    hmmm i wonder what dropped my health from 90-10 with only light attack/sliver leash?
    Crushing weapon + empower on the LA?

    negative. only thing in my kill recap was light attacks and sliver leashes.
  • Bosov
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    Must be nice to be a magplar this patch.... they are beyond broken now. How did that eclipse make it live?
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  • No_Division
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Must be nice to be a magplar this patch.... they are beyond broken now. How did that eclipse make it live?

    while you attack templar, magsorc/dots got stronger lol.
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Must be nice to be a magplar this patch.... they are beyond broken now. How did that eclipse make it live?

    while you attack templar, magsorc/dots got stronger lol.

    Templars mostly use the same dot though. Hard to find a magplar without entropy (or a magic character in general) and soul trap. Those dots combined with the burning light dot, the vampire bane, an ult without a casttime and they can do a lot of damage really quick and really easy. Lets also not forget a lot of them wear Skoria so even more free damage with the skoria meteor rain all those dots provide.

    The most annoying thing is fighting one, getting them in execute only to be afk rooted by that stupid bubble and seeing them hold block while smashing their heal button.

    Before templars were just hard to kill if they went full turtle... now they can also kill me while they are going full turtle mode.
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    https://twitter.com/SlashLurk/status/895068339273310208

  • EtTuBrutus
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    You have a bad build from what it sounds like bosov
  • No_Division
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    Must be nice to be a magplar this patch.... they are beyond broken now. How did that eclipse make it live?

    while you attack templar, magsorc/dots got stronger lol.

    Templars mostly use the same dot though. Hard to find a magplar without entropy (or a magic character in general) and soul trap. Those dots combined with the burning light dot, the vampire bane, an ult without a casttime and they can do a lot of damage really quick and really easy. Lets also not forget a lot of them wear Skoria so even more free damage with the skoria meteor rain all those dots provide.

    The most annoying thing is fighting one, getting them in execute only to be afk rooted by that stupid bubble and seeing them hold block while smashing their heal button.

    Before templars were just hard to kill if they went full turtle... now they can also kill me while they are going full turtle mode.

    so then ask for those two dots to be changed + cast time on ults reversed lol. Templars are still balanced right now because they are still super immobile and don't have the native blocking/self healing passives that DK can to justify going melee all the time.

    Dont believe me? run a Templar that isnt an argonian healbot and came back lol. Now stop talking game balance a thread dedicated to helping new/existing templars enjoy their class at the DD/solo level.
  • Bosov
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    Ah, this topic is for new players. It does make sense for new players to be a templar this patch. There also might be an influx of new templars this patch. Better get ready to help them out.

    Here is my first tip for all you new templars : Slot your dots, slot your class heal and whatever you do. Do NOT leave the homebase without your purify.
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    You have a bad build from what it sounds like bosov

    Wow, just wow. Show some respect for the YouTube content creator who made my build! Cast your bubble templar, i am coming for you!
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    PC - EU - @Bosov91

    ESO Highight :
    https://twitter.com/SlashLurk/status/895068339273310208

  • EtTuBrutus
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Ah, this topic is for new players. It does make sense for new players to be a templar this patch. There also might be an influx of new templars this patch. Better get ready to help them out.

    Here is my first tip for all you new templars : Slot your dots, slot your class heal and whatever you do. Do NOT leave the homebase without your purify.
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    You have a bad build from what it sounds like bosov

    Wow, just wow. Show some respect for the YouTube content creator who made my build! Cast your bubble templar, i am coming for you!

    I shouldn't have been so abrupt, EVERY class can turtle and burst, not just templar. If you can't, you have a bad build.

    I don't follow your comment though. Lol. What's your channel id love to see your game play.
  • technohic
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Ah, this topic is for new players. It does make sense for new players to be a templar this patch. There also might be an influx of new templars this patch. Better get ready to help them out.

    Here is my first tip for all you new templars : Slot your dots, slot your class heal and whatever you do. Do NOT leave the homebase without your purify.
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    You have a bad build from what it sounds like bosov

    Wow, just wow. Show some respect for the YouTube content creator who made my build! Cast your bubble templar, i am coming for you!

    So you're saying it's someone else's build and you just aren't any good at it? Got it.

    I have not had any issues fighting magplars this patch but I am running stamplar and stamcro for access to my own DOT removal which also works on eclipse and I have not had an issue with them in their self bubble either since I have 7 seconds root immunity. Even with the bubble, a lot of these new templars fold with a good onslaught executioner combo. Still cant believe people haven't noticed that as widely as DOTs.
  • MaTaHgA
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    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?
  • MaTaHgA
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy
  • Mrsinister2
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    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy

    Stick to light armor if you want to kill anyrhing at all especially on a mag toon.

    Not sure what your enchants are but you could use nirn or an Infused zerked glyph to get the damage up.

    Or swap blood spawn for skoria for more burst would be my suggestions but do not go heavy armor your damage will be total crap
  • Akinos
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    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy

    Heavy can be great, high damage, tankyness and sustain if you do it right.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy

    Stick to light armor if you want to kill anyrhing at all especially on a mag toon.

    Not sure what your enchants are but you could use nirn or an Infused zerked glyph to get the damage up.

    Or swap blood spawn for skoria for more burst would be my suggestions but do not go heavy armor your damage will be total crap

    You can have high damage in heavy...sure you won't have the extra spell pen and crit rate but with a good build heavy won't be total crap damage.

    I don't understand why people think your damage automatically goes down to 0 if you equip 5 heavy...it's almost as bad as thinking you can't have sustain if you wear 2 or 3 dps sets.
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  • VirtualElizabeth
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    Just a questio....
    technohic wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    Ah, this topic is for new players. It does make sense for new players to be a templar this patch. There also might be an influx of new templars this patch. Better get ready to help them out.

    Here is my first tip for all you new templars : Slot your dots, slot your class heal and whatever you do. Do NOT leave the homebase without your purify.
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    You have a bad build from what it sounds like bosov

    Wow, just wow. Show some respect for the YouTube content creator who made my build! Cast your bubble templar, i am coming for you!

    So you're saying it's someone else's build and you just aren't any good at it? Got it.

    I have not had any issues fighting magplars this patch but I am running stamplar and stamcro for access to my own DOT removal which also works on eclipse and I have not had an issue with them in their self bubble either since I have 7 seconds root immunity. Even with the bubble, a lot of these new templars fold with a good onslaught executioner combo. Still cant believe people haven't noticed that as widely as DOTs.

    You mean you adapted and changed your play style to match the changes....no way, how dare you! :P
    Edited by VirtualElizabeth on August 16, 2019 11:56PM
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  • Mrsinister2
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    Akinos wrote: »
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy

    Heavy can be great, high damage, tankyness and sustain if you do it right.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Cant believe onslaught made it live. Ridiculously broken.
    MaTaHgA wrote: »
    What sets do you run in scalebreaker? I try btb+shackle heavy+bloodspawn, survival is good, but I think I don't have enough damage to kill people

    That's a solid set up are you using all damage glyphs on jewls?

    Yeah but idk, maybe it's because I use light armor in elsweyr, so I just need to play more in heavy

    Stick to light armor if you want to kill anyrhing at all especially on a mag toon.

    Not sure what your enchants are but you could use nirn or an Infused zerked glyph to get the damage up.

    Or swap blood spawn for skoria for more burst would be my suggestions but do not go heavy armor your damage will be total crap

    You can have high damage in heavy...sure you won't have the extra spell pen and crit rate but with a good build heavy won't be total crap damage.

    I don't understand why people think your damage automatically goes down to 0 if you equip 5 heavy...it's almost as bad as thinking you can't have sustain if you wear 2 or 3 dps sets.

    No I agree with you but if someone has trouble killing people in light armor with all damage ghyphs and light armor passives then i dont think swapping to heavy is the answer unless they really know how to do it right.

    Maybe you can do it really well but most heavy armor mag users arent killing anything. It turns most templars into straight heal bots
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