Sorc pets are now officially useless

Beardimus

SanguineMyBrother wrote: »

This is disheartening

Agreed. I dont get why we have to have this wild swings in things. Pets were rubbish, then got good, then we make them rubbish again.

Feels the balance is continually robbing peter to pay paul but killing fred accidently.

Everstorm

Don't play a magsorc but did they remove taunt from the clanfear? Then why would anyone use that morph?

Banana

And your shield sucks.

Drayza

For all those saying that pets are fine now, I suggest you try going to Sunhold public dungeon and kill Shipbreaker boss.
Once his aoe starts your pet melts no matter what you do (ward is a joke now). So instead of weaving light attacks you "weave" shield just to survive .

Neoealth

I am kind of lost in the game now because my one and only character was a pet sorc. I learned the game as a pet sorc, focused all my attention as a pet sorc, learned how to do rotations as a pet sorc. I basically put all my eggs into the pet sorc basket.

And now ZOS has just snatched that egg basket from my hands and stamped on it. I am not sure how to pick up the pieces. I am thinking maybe just start again on a new class. I'm not the sort of person who has tons of alts. I like to focus on one thing and become the best at it. So for me this patch is a disaster.

Eliahnus

My favourite build down the drain ... Farewell, my beloved clannfear, I will have to put you to rest.

I guess I will now have to rely on Dark exchange to heal, and switch out the Necropotence set for another set.

Neoealth

Also, i have 56 points in bastion but my shield is only just over 7k, I have 18k health. Is bastion actually doing anything at all?

Vahrokh

Neoealth wrote: »

Also, i have 56 points in bastion but my shield is only just over 7k, I have 18k health. Is bastion actually doing anything at all?

No, they only took away what made our class great, now that CP is totally useless to us.

BillVG

With one thoughtless change to sorcerer shields ZOS have managed to reduce my shield strength by over 70%. That is a ridiculous amount to decrease shields by. I have max magicka over 50K and min health well under 20K even when buffed and so I rely on shields to stay alive. I can no longer do many of the things I liked to do because my pet dies and then I die. I suppose they have done me a favor, I immediately cancelled my long running subscription and will spend time now playing other games.

Caligamy_ESO

At first I thought this was an over-exaggerated post but then I did a clockwork city world boss this morning and watched my pets die in about 2 seconds of being summoned because of the ground circles on the wrath of crows fight passing over them.

Definitely not considering pets for a build at the moment and have already started shifting gear to get rid of them.

deLioncourt

starkerealm wrote: »

winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »

I want a Class respect since they destroyed this build.

Respect your class, and your class will respect you. The petsorc still works. It's arguably better now for PvE, because of the changes to pet mechanics.

Derp

ThumbtackJake

Neoealth wrote: »

I am kind of lost in the game now because my one and only character was a pet sorc. I learned the game as a pet sorc, focused all my attention as a pet sorc, learned how to do rotations as a pet sorc. I basically put all my eggs into the pet sorc basket.

And now ZOS has just snatched that egg basket from my hands and stamped on it. I am not sure how to pick up the pieces. I am thinking maybe just start again on a new class. I'm not the sort of person who has tons of alts. I like to focus on one thing and become the best at it. So for me this patch is a disaster.

I'm in the same boat. I have a few alts, but my pet-sorc is my main and go-to character. Sherman started posting some solo builds yesterday so I'm looking into those to see if I can find something I like. Pet builds are my favorite though, so no matter what it won't be the same.

zaria

LioraValkyrie wrote: »

I don't see why pets can't be unkillable in PvP also, so long as they are also untargetable. The damage they do without activating their special ability is negligible, and more than a reasonable sacrifice for having to double slot them. Using your pet as a literal meat shield seems dishonourable to me somehow... Why not just take the leap and make them ethereal all the time? /shrug.

Bad idea, remember one siege we had once there the enemy pets was essential to recharge our ulitmates between each time they tried to rush us, it was quite funny Did not thought about it before one told us to only LA the pets

FakeFox

Wait, wasn't this patch supposed to make pets immortal?

ezio45

LadyLethalla wrote: »

I thought they changed it so pets don't die in vet dungeons and trials now...?

dungeons and trials make up a small portion of content and everything else as of right now you might as well not play pet sorc

DaveMoeDee

Vahrokh wrote: »

karekiz wrote: »

They just need to make them immune in Overland + Public + VMA - /shrug.

Obviously PvP they can't be though

I don't PvP so I have no idea about pets in there. But as of now at public dungeons, world bosses etc they are worse than early 2014 pets, that would die very easily... but not that easily!

I feel a little guilty, but I consider this good news as pets are so damn annoying when my tank is trying to stack mobs. They end up fighting some trash mob is some corner of the room.

zaria

ThumbtackJake wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

I am kind of lost in the game now because my one and only character was a pet sorc. I learned the game as a pet sorc, focused all my attention as a pet sorc, learned how to do rotations as a pet sorc. I basically put all my eggs into the pet sorc basket.

And now ZOS has just snatched that egg basket from my hands and stamped on it. I am not sure how to pick up the pieces. I am thinking maybe just start again on a new class. I'm not the sort of person who has tons of alts. I like to focus on one thing and become the best at it. So for me this patch is a disaster.

I'm in the same boat. I have a few alts, but my pet-sorc is my main and go-to character. Sherman started posting some solo builds yesterday so I'm looking into those to see if I can find something I like. Pet builds are my favorite though, so no matter what it won't be the same.

Yes, pet sorc DD and healer.
Interestingly I have long thought to make her stamina, main crafter and also the one who do all the quests and stuff so stamina should make that part faster, overland with VO let you , even made an Altmer replacement for the magsorc rolle
Looks like its time to do that now.

Aethereal'Golden

ZOS wiped out the whole summoning branch from the sorcerers. Useless pets, useless shield, nearly useless bound armor. Guess, they didn't even try to play their own game with a sorcerer class.
vMA is definitely not suited for pet-builds anymore.

SpacemanSpiff1

Neoealth wrote: »

Also, i have 56 points in bastion but my shield is only just over 7k, I have 18k health. Is bastion actually doing anything at all?

im playing with a build editor and I'm pretty much at the cap with no bastion. 17157 health, 6926 harness magicka.

Might be better off dumping those 56 points into spell shield and light armor since shields use resistance now.

Numerikuu

FakeFox wrote: »

Wait, wasn't this patch supposed to make pets immortal?

Hah! Sike!

MLGProPlayer

FakeFox wrote: »

Wait, wasn't this patch supposed to make pets immortal?

In dungeons/trials. But in overland and vMA, they just removed/reduced pet resistance to the point that they die to overland trash mobs now. Bosses kill them in 3 hits or less.

Royaji

Considering there was no mention of removing pet's resistances in patch notes this whole thing sounds like a bug. As some people pointed out, they were tinkering with the way crit resistance is calculated for pets so it is very likely that something got broken as a side effect.

MakeMeUhSamich

So, basically, MagSorcs are going no-pet now? Which, in essence, is just a crappy, wannabe MagBlade?

Vahrokh

Royaji wrote: »

Considering there was no mention of removing pet's resistances in patch notes this whole thing sounds like a bug. As some people pointed out, they were tinkering with the way crit resistance is calculated for pets so it is very likely that something got broken as a side effect.

Yes, Royaji, but we PTS testers found out this problem and told them every day for 4 weeks! They still did not care!

Vahrokh

MakeMeUhSamich wrote: »

So, basically, MagSorcs are going no-pet now? Which, in essence, is just a crappy, wannabe MagBlade?

It's worse than that.

Because if you go pet-less, you have to go crystal frags etc. build. But that build requires Witchmother's Potent Brew or Citrus Fillet. But those foods give nerfed health and so you either have to enchant health and defense and SUCK at your only job (DPS, it's not like we did as good as Stamblades!) or play with 15k health and flimsy shield and die again and again. Which - again - makes you a worthless trial DPS.

MinarasLaure

At least your pets are not ultimates.
My magden has stopped using the bear in overland content as it's pretty much useless

Vahrokh

MinarasLaure wrote: »

At least your pets are not ultimates.
My magden has stopped using the bear in overland content as it's pretty much useless

Well, ultimates don't permanently take 4 ability slots...

MLGProPlayer

Vahrokh wrote: »

MinarasLaure wrote: »

At least your pets are not ultimates.
My magden has stopped using the bear in overland content as it's pretty much useless

Well, ultimates don't permanently take 4 ability slots...

Wardens don't have any non-pet builds. Sorc non-pet builds aren't a DPS loss at least. You have to change your playstyle, but at least you're still viable in all content.

MLGProPlayer

Vahrokh wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Considering there was no mention of removing pet's resistances in patch notes this whole thing sounds like a bug. As some people pointed out, they were tinkering with the way crit resistance is calculated for pets so it is very likely that something got broken as a side effect.

Yes, Royaji, but we PTS testers found out this problem and told them every day for 4 weeks! They still did not care!

Classic ZOS.

Royaji

Vahrokh wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Considering there was no mention of removing pet's resistances in patch notes this whole thing sounds like a bug. As some people pointed out, they were tinkering with the way crit resistance is calculated for pets so it is very likely that something got broken as a side effect.

Yes, Royaji, but we PTS testers found out this problem and told them every day for 4 weeks! They still did not care!

Maybe you should press on that angle and ask for a bug to be fixed instead of creating chaos and claiming that the sky is falling.