Please go back to 20 day rewards.

Lake

They could add a small set number of remote reward claims per month via the ESO app.

Too bad they don't even have one.

MLGProPlayer

Cously wrote: »

I log ESO daily since launch except days were I couldn't due to power/internet outage. Almost missed the 100K because one of those powercuts that lasted more than a day. It's fun to have rewards everyday and to get people to log everyday, perharps we can come to a compromise, just like in Black Desert, they give 2x rewards on weekends in case you missed the daily one day, the first reward is imediately, the second is after one hour that you are logged.

The easiest solution is just to make the big reward around day 20. They can still offer minor rewards beyond 20 days.

Sharee

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Cously wrote: »

I log ESO daily since launch except days were I couldn't due to power/internet outage. Almost missed the 100K because one of those powercuts that lasted more than a day. It's fun to have rewards everyday and to get people to log everyday, perharps we can come to a compromise, just like in Black Desert, they give 2x rewards on weekends in case you missed the daily one day, the first reward is imediately, the second is after one hour that you are logged.

The easiest solution is just to make the big reward around day 20. They can still offer minor rewards beyond 20 days.

Looking at the newest set of rewards, that's what they did (the last 3 rewards are 2K AP each).

Ri_Khan

You fools need to check your privilege and be grateful you can even go on vacations, spend time with your families and do all that irl stuff. These threads and some peoples attitudes in this community are disgusting.

Aesthier

Since everyone here is acting like a kid perhaps we should just take this "toy" away entirely.

Androconium

Ri_Khan wrote: »

You fools need to check your privilege and be grateful you can even go on vacations, spend time with your families and do all that irl stuff. These threads and some peoples attitudes in this community are disgusting.

Yeah! and stuff!!

anadandy

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Sure trivial rewards like 100k gold are irrelevant. But this sets a dangerous precedent. A $30 DLC is going to be the reward in November. If it's the day 28 reward again, a huge chunk of the player base will be excluded from receiving it....

The ZOS tweet saying Murkmire will be the Black Friday daily login has been posted several times already. Black Friday is November 23rd which very likely means to get Murkmire players will only have to log 23 days in November.

Edited for tone.

Chicharron

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

If you do not have two minutes for ESO, you do not deserve the reward.

What if people grow up and get a real life? Once you have a demanding job or a demanding partner or demanding kids or ALL at the same time, you will quickly see that at times a daily logon can become difficult.

Examples:
- your boss sends you on a business trip
- your partner wants a trip over the weekend
- your kid gets sick

People living ALONE certainly have no problem wit a daily login. However, people with a social life probably are thankful for only 20 and not 28 days of rewards - when the best rewards usually are placed on the final days.

Anyway, I have a suggestion: Daily Logon Reward Tokens
Instead of many junk rewards (APs, 500g etc,) and only a few good rewards (Experience Scrolls, Crates etc.), give people a Daily Logon reward token for each daily logon, similar like Undaunted Keys. And then, with perhaps 100 Tokens, you can get some great rewards, like 10 crate boxes or 100k gold. This way people could collect their dialy logon reward tokens at the speed their social life allows.

I have a job, wife, two children and 2 free minutes to claim the reward.

if you can not, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

You have a stable 9-5 job. A lot of people don't. It's 2018. There are tons of people who work in various fields that don't have the luxury you do.

If you're a consultant or a lawyer, you'll be in the office well into the night hours during busy season (sometimes sleeping over).

If you work for a multinational, you'll frequently be traveling to different facilities across the country/globe, sometimes monthly.

You could also be working in a factory with rotating shifts (a week of day shifts followed by a week of night shifts).

It helps to put yourself in the shoes of other people sometimes.

The OP has just as many "agrees" as the next post disagreeing with it. Clearly this is something that affects a sizeable chunk of the player base, as you would expect, given again, that it's 2018.

As I said before, If you can not claim the rewards, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

I do not like PVP, I have never stepped on Cyrodiil, i liked the rewards of Midyear Mayhem, but i did not enter Cyrodiil.

And never cry about it, it was not an event made for me, you can't always get what you want, deal with it.

Bouldercleave

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Katahdin

I can't believe people are losing their minds over virtual gold in a video game to the point they are so depressed about it, they can't log in.....

Really?

How about some perspective

If you lost power because a massive hurricane just flattened half your state

If you are sick or have a sick child, parent

You have a job and have a mortgage, car, school, bills to pay

You are going to school

I'm pretty sure you have bigger things to worry about than virtual rewards in a VIDEO GAME


I'd gladly give up 1,000,000 video game gold for the time and money to go on vacation for a week.

Please get a grip



.

badmojo

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Just about every time the word punish gets used in this thread its in the context of a player 'feeling' punished. You can dismiss a players feelings all you want, but it doesn't mean players won't still feel that way. Players feeling negatively towards the daily reward system actually hurts the game as a whole. I am not sure about you, but I want this game I have invested so much time in to be as successful as possible. I honestly believe the benefit of being more leinient with daily rewards outweighs the downsides of it. I would gladly annoy the hardcore dedicated players a bit to prevent some casuals from quitting due to frustration with the extreme dedication required to get something as trivial as a 100k gold reward. How many people in this thread have said they will stop playing if the 21day+ rewards are removed? None. Yet we have players telling us that the daily reward setup specifically discouraged them from playing more in september. It should be obvious that a system designed to get players to login doing the opposit is undesirable from the developers perspective.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

I myself log in everyday and have gotten every daily reward I have ever wanted. But, I still do not want game mechanics that expect that same level of dedication from all players.

Bouldercleave

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.


Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

tmbrinks

You don't even have to log in every 24 hours... For example, if you log in after 8 pm EDT on Friday night, you don't have to log in until 7:59 pm EDT on Sunday night and you can still get all the rewards... nearly 48 hours!

badmojo

Bouldercleave wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.


Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

Yeah, and I couldn't care less if you care about other peoples feelings. People feeling punished was not brought up to get sympathy for them, it was brought up because the DAILY REWARDS are supposed to encourage people to login to the game, but they are accomplishing the complete opposite in some cases.

Yes I just seriously said that I think the 28/30 day standard is too damn high for the DAILY REWARDS. Daily means they reset every day, does it not? Daily quests are a big thing in ESO, does that mean we get better and better rewards if we do dailies in succession without missing one? No, they are just quests that reset at a certain time DAILY. The fact that none of the DAILY REWARDS have been for every day of the month seems to support what I am saying and discredit what you are implying. Obviously ZOS doesn't think people should be punished for missing 1 or 2 days, and I feel like that number could be higher.

ZonasArch

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Cously wrote: »

I log ESO daily since launch except days were I couldn't due to power/internet outage. Almost missed the 100K because one of those powercuts that lasted more than a day. It's fun to have rewards everyday and to get people to log everyday, perharps we can come to a compromise, just like in Black Desert, they give 2x rewards on weekends in case you missed the daily one day, the first reward is imediately, the second is after one hour that you are logged.

The easiest solution is just to make the big reward around day 20. They can still offer minor rewards beyond 20 days.

This is exactly what they did! Geez

Bouldercleave

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.


Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

Yeah, and I couldn't care less if you care about other peoples feelings. People feeling punished was not brought up to get sympathy for them, it was brought up because the DAILY REWARDS are supposed to encourage people to login to the game, but they are accomplishing the complete opposite in some cases.

Yes I just seriously said that I think the 28/30 day standard is too damn high for the DAILY REWARDS. Daily means they reset every day, does it not? Daily quests are a big thing in ESO, does that mean we get better and better rewards if we do dailies in succession without missing one? No, they are just quests that reset at a certain time DAILY. The fact that none of the DAILY REWARDS have been for every day of the month seems to support what I am saying and discredit what you are implying. Obviously ZOS doesn't think people should be punished for missing 1 or 2 days, and I feel like that number could be higher.

I'm not going to argue anymore. Log in and get your freebies or don't log in and get your bowl full of butt hurt.

May ZoS "punish" your attendance (or lack of) any way they see fit.

MLGProPlayer

Chicharron wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

If you do not have two minutes for ESO, you do not deserve the reward.

What if people grow up and get a real life? Once you have a demanding job or a demanding partner or demanding kids or ALL at the same time, you will quickly see that at times a daily logon can become difficult.

Examples:
- your boss sends you on a business trip
- your partner wants a trip over the weekend
- your kid gets sick

People living ALONE certainly have no problem wit a daily login. However, people with a social life probably are thankful for only 20 and not 28 days of rewards - when the best rewards usually are placed on the final days.

Anyway, I have a suggestion: Daily Logon Reward Tokens
Instead of many junk rewards (APs, 500g etc,) and only a few good rewards (Experience Scrolls, Crates etc.), give people a Daily Logon reward token for each daily logon, similar like Undaunted Keys. And then, with perhaps 100 Tokens, you can get some great rewards, like 10 crate boxes or 100k gold. This way people could collect their dialy logon reward tokens at the speed their social life allows.

I have a job, wife, two children and 2 free minutes to claim the reward.

if you can not, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

You have a stable 9-5 job. A lot of people don't. It's 2018. There are tons of people who work in various fields that don't have the luxury you do.

If you're a consultant or a lawyer, you'll be in the office well into the night hours during busy season (sometimes sleeping over).

If you work for a multinational, you'll frequently be traveling to different facilities across the country/globe, sometimes monthly.

You could also be working in a factory with rotating shifts (a week of day shifts followed by a week of night shifts).

It helps to put yourself in the shoes of other people sometimes.

The OP has just as many "agrees" as the next post disagreeing with it. Clearly this is something that affects a sizeable chunk of the player base, as you would expect, given again, that it's 2018.

As I said before, If you can not claim the rewards, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

I do not like PVP, I have never stepped on Cyrodiil, i liked the rewards of Midyear Mayhem, but i did not enter Cyrodiil.

And never cry about it, it was not an event made for me, you can't always get what you want, deal with it.

You chose not to step into Cyrodiil during Midyear Mayhem

People don't choose to miss out on daily rewards.

Tornaad

I'm fine with the current system.

Bouldercleave

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

If you do not have two minutes for ESO, you do not deserve the reward.

What if people grow up and get a real life? Once you have a demanding job or a demanding partner or demanding kids or ALL at the same time, you will quickly see that at times a daily logon can become difficult.

Examples:
- your boss sends you on a business trip
- your partner wants a trip over the weekend
- your kid gets sick

People living ALONE certainly have no problem wit a daily login. However, people with a social life probably are thankful for only 20 and not 28 days of rewards - when the best rewards usually are placed on the final days.

Anyway, I have a suggestion: Daily Logon Reward Tokens
Instead of many junk rewards (APs, 500g etc,) and only a few good rewards (Experience Scrolls, Crates etc.), give people a Daily Logon reward token for each daily logon, similar like Undaunted Keys. And then, with perhaps 100 Tokens, you can get some great rewards, like 10 crate boxes or 100k gold. This way people could collect their dialy logon reward tokens at the speed their social life allows.

I have a job, wife, two children and 2 free minutes to claim the reward.

if you can not, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

You have a stable 9-5 job. A lot of people don't. It's 2018. There are tons of people who work in various fields that don't have the luxury you do.

If you're a consultant or a lawyer, you'll be in the office well into the night hours during busy season (sometimes sleeping over).

If you work for a multinational, you'll frequently be traveling to different facilities across the country/globe, sometimes monthly.

You could also be working in a factory with rotating shifts (a week of day shifts followed by a week of night shifts).

It helps to put yourself in the shoes of other people sometimes.

The OP has just as many "agrees" as the next post disagreeing with it. Clearly this is something that affects a sizeable chunk of the player base, as you would expect, given again, that it's 2018.

As I said before, If you can not claim the rewards, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

I do not like PVP, I have never stepped on Cyrodiil, i liked the rewards of Midyear Mayhem, but i did not enter Cyrodiil.

And never cry about it, it was not an event made for me, you can't always get what you want, deal with it.

You chose not to step into Cyrodiil during Midyear Mayhem

People don't choose to miss out on daily rewards.

I didn't "choose" to be 5'8" either. Sometimes life just gets in the way of your dreams. Suck it up.

badmojo

Bouldercleave wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

If you do not have two minutes for ESO, you do not deserve the reward.

What if people grow up and get a real life? Once you have a demanding job or a demanding partner or demanding kids or ALL at the same time, you will quickly see that at times a daily logon can become difficult.

Examples:
- your boss sends you on a business trip
- your partner wants a trip over the weekend
- your kid gets sick

People living ALONE certainly have no problem wit a daily login. However, people with a social life probably are thankful for only 20 and not 28 days of rewards - when the best rewards usually are placed on the final days.

Anyway, I have a suggestion: Daily Logon Reward Tokens
Instead of many junk rewards (APs, 500g etc,) and only a few good rewards (Experience Scrolls, Crates etc.), give people a Daily Logon reward token for each daily logon, similar like Undaunted Keys. And then, with perhaps 100 Tokens, you can get some great rewards, like 10 crate boxes or 100k gold. This way people could collect their dialy logon reward tokens at the speed their social life allows.

I have a job, wife, two children and 2 free minutes to claim the reward.

if you can not, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

You have a stable 9-5 job. A lot of people don't. It's 2018. There are tons of people who work in various fields that don't have the luxury you do.

If you're a consultant or a lawyer, you'll be in the office well into the night hours during busy season (sometimes sleeping over).

If you work for a multinational, you'll frequently be traveling to different facilities across the country/globe, sometimes monthly.

You could also be working in a factory with rotating shifts (a week of day shifts followed by a week of night shifts).

It helps to put yourself in the shoes of other people sometimes.

The OP has just as many "agrees" as the next post disagreeing with it. Clearly this is something that affects a sizeable chunk of the player base, as you would expect, given again, that it's 2018.

As I said before, If you can not claim the rewards, it means that the rewards were not made for you, they were made for other types of players.

I do not like PVP, I have never stepped on Cyrodiil, i liked the rewards of Midyear Mayhem, but i did not enter Cyrodiil.

And never cry about it, it was not an event made for me, you can't always get what you want, deal with it.

You chose not to step into Cyrodiil during Midyear Mayhem

People don't choose to miss out on daily rewards.

I didn't "choose" to be 5'8" either. Sometimes life just gets in the way of your dreams. Suck it up.

Except in this case ZOS is making this game specifically for us, the players. They constantly ask for player feedback on every aspect of the game. So why, when someone suggests something be changed, the response is "thats life, deal with it"??? Things in this game can be changed, easily, its not set in stone, its not "life" and we as a group do not have to deal with it if we decide we want something else to happen.

Certainly ZOS can say no and keep things the way they are, but YOU are not them, you saying 'deal with it' changes nothing.

If you want the daily rewards to be brutally hard to get, I can respect and understand that. But the way you are talking now sounds like you are unhappy with the requirements but justify it by telling yourself things can never be changed. But they can.

TheRealPotoroo

Bouldercleave wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

You are conveniently ignoring the psychology of loyalty programs. They're not about the rewards per se, they're about building up positive feelings - there's that word again - about the brand. However, there's a quid pro quo - the loyalty cannot be one way. If the brand lets the user down, whether in the form of frequent flyer points you can never actually use or the big monthly reward you miss out on because there was a God damn hurricane in your part of the world and the system didn't have enough slack - then the positive feelings dissipate and become negative. That's where feelings of punishment come from - the person genuinely tried but missed out because of circumstances beyond their control. Psychologically that's bordering on abusive because you can't negotiate with a system. That's why smart vendors build slack into their loyalty programs.

Chicharron

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

You are conveniently ignoring the psychology of loyalty programs. They're not about the rewards per se, they're about building up positive feelings - there's that word again - about the brand. However, there's a quid pro quo - the loyalty cannot be one way. If the brand lets the user down, whether in the form of frequent flyer points you can never actually use or the big monthly reward you miss out on because there was a God damn hurricane in your part of the world and the system didn't have enough slack - then the positive feelings dissipate and become negative. That's where feelings of punishment come from - the person genuinely tried but missed out because of circumstances beyond their control. Psychologically that's bordering on abusive because you can't negotiate with a system. That's why smart vendors build slack into their loyalty programs.

Question.

What is a Potoroo? and why you are the real one?

The Real, the one and only Chicharron.

jainiadral

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

TheLastEpicurean wrote: »

I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

You are conveniently ignoring the psychology of loyalty programs. They're not about the rewards per se, they're about building up positive feelings - there's that word again - about the brand. However, there's a quid pro quo - the loyalty cannot be one way. If the brand lets the user down, whether in the form of frequent flyer points you can never actually use or the big monthly reward you miss out on because there was a God damn hurricane in your part of the world and the system didn't have enough slack - then the positive feelings dissipate and become negative. That's where feelings of punishment come from - the person genuinely tried but missed out because of circumstances beyond their control. Psychologically that's bordering on abusive because you can't negotiate with a system. That's why smart vendors build slack into their loyalty programs.

Pretty much it in a nutshell, if it's a little overstated. There's a lot of good feedback amidst some terrible player attitudes on both "sides" of the issue in this thread, so I hope ZoS is reading past the garbage here.

Looking objectively at the bigger picture for the game: alienating the player base with a retention system is the opposite of what's supposed to be happening here. Retention programs are supposed to encourage players to log in and to stay logged in. They're supposed to increase player satisfaction. Happy (or happier) players are good for the game as a whole, including some of the more vocal naysayers. It's in all of our interests to ensure that the system is more equitable.

Breaking it down... Satisfied players spend more money than disgruntled players. More money means more resources for ZoS to continue developing content. More content means that existing players remain, while new players continue to be attracted to the game. That means populations either rise or remain stable despite natural attrition over time. Which means more supplies in the player economy, more people to group with if that's your kind of content, etc. etc. Not to mention, happier players lead to a less toxic in-game experience.

Anyway, yeah.

Ashilda_Dragonheart

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

20 days was much more reasonable. Some days people can't log in and that feels like a punishment.

Especially if you are a college student with a lot of homework. Sometimes you just get too tired to play. People also go out of town often, and you can't bring a console everywhere with you to log in.

Odnoc

There are 20 day rewards, plus 10 more rewards for those that do log in more. You're not losing out.

Sanctum74

Maybe they should change the name of the program since so many people don't understand the concept of daily reward or just feel it's so so hard to log in for a free gift and they are being punished if they don't.

We could call it the monthly yay for me reward. As long as you log in once a month you get all the rewards, a maelstrom weapon, participation trophy, and a free puppy.

Seriously though is it so hard to understand that they want you to play the game every day and they are willing to reward you for your dedication and if you don't then you do not lose anything and you are not being punished.

Imryll

I brought up my husband visiting his Mom over Labor Day, partly because I thought ZOS chose a poor month for experimentation with the reward distribution pattern and partly because he's just the sort of player for whom 100k would be a game-changer. Folks keep saying that 100k is trivial, but that's only true for people who play the way they do, not someone for whom it would have meant having the money to buy Humblemud. I know that 40k isn't hard to come by in ESO (and I'd have gladly given it to him), but where I see daily rewards being most helpful is with folks who aren't yet sufficiently engaged with the game to see performing repetitive in-game tasks as worth their time. Sometimes you need to jump start the car.

Snipress

It's easy to login for just a few minutes each day. That's what I did for, like, 2 months. I just didn't feel like playing all that much. I understand if something... unfortunate happens and it prevents you from picking up your rewards, though. We should still be thankful they're actually giving us free items.

max_only

I came to this thread to say I had major surgery Tuesday morning and still managed to log on hopped up on painkillers lol. I’ll be home bound for a few weeks, can’t lift anything but I can still tank

Back in my day the “daily reward” was hireling mail and writs.

So you don’t get the thing, so what? It’s a disappointment and you’ll survive it.

Androconium

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I have to say that logging in every day is beginning to feel like a chore and is actually pushing me to stop playing. It does feel like I'm missing out and being punished if I don't log in for a day.

This is one of the problems with society today. YOU ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED! If you miss a day or two, you just don't get your free crap that day.

Stop playing the victim guys and gals - there is ZERO punishment for not logging in every day, you just miss a bit of free junk.

We could go back to a couple of years ago when you got nothing at all.

Another issue with your post, nobody is getting anything for free here. We all paid for this game. Expecting the daily reward standards to be so high that only the most dedicated players get them is a pretty entitled attitude.

Did you just seriously say that the DAILY reward standards are too high? The DAILY REWARDS standards.

If you can't or don't log in DAILY, you don't get the rewards. I missed the big payout last month as well. Because I couldn't log in DAILY.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a sociopath - I couldn't care less about your "feelings" of betrayal and disappointment.

You are conveniently ignoring the psychology of loyalty programs. They're not about the rewards per se, they're about building up positive feelings - there's that word again - about the brand. However, there's a quid pro quo - the loyalty cannot be one way. If the brand lets the user down, whether in the form of frequent flyer points you can never actually use or the big monthly reward you miss out on because there was a God damn hurricane in your part of the world and the system didn't have enough slack - then the positive feelings dissipate and become negative. That's where feelings of punishment come from - the person genuinely tried but missed out because of circumstances beyond their control. Psychologically that's bordering on abusive because you can't negotiate with a system. That's why smart vendors build slack into their loyalty programs.

Question.

What is a Potoroo? and why you are the real one?

It's Australian cuisine.
The real one has pineapple in it.