ESO Lore Names in character names not allowed anymore

The_Brosteen

Wait, are we still allowed to have character names based on employees like @ZOS_Wrobel ? Asking for a friend

StormChaser3000

I don't get it. As long as it's not ZOS employee nickname or something generally recognized as a taboo word what's the problem? If "Molag Bal" will approach you inside the game and ask you in chat for your login and password, will anyone really provide them? or think that it's an npc?
All this stuff smells to me like excessive P.C. from the company's side.

Valve

I've broken this rule 3 times and haven't had any problems (yet).

I think it's dumb that players creating characters based upon in-game NPCs is an issue.

I understand to a certain extent characters that are parts of the main story but they still shouldn't force these players to have to name change.

I would absolutely hate having to change any of the names.

Obviously my account name is probably in breach of "You will not create an account name that is in reference to or contains copyright names" but I've had this account since Beta and if I had to change it, they better let me choose whatever name I want.

Salvas_Aren

The_Brosteen wrote: »

Wait, are we still allowed to have character names based on employees like @ZOS_Wrobel ? Asking for a friend

any name that could mislead other players to believe You to be an employee of ZeniMax

MythicEmperor

This really sucks. I really hope this rule doesn’t become strongly enforced, the game is supposed to be fun.

blnchk

I don't get the collective outrage. Something like this:

Waldar wrote: »

You could rename him as Sheogoraths alter ego Gorath O'Shey!

...is not only much more creative and interesting, it's (dare I say it) more immersive.

What I also don't get, though, is why such names are policed after the creation of a character, and not during. Couldn't they have blocked names of well established characters, at least of those appearing in ESO, from the very beginning? Their current approach, what with reacting years after a character is made, looks arbitrary and mean-spirited. ...And leads to indignant forum posts.

R3DTHR3AT

ridicilous

Sheezabeast

I have seen a hundred different variations of the name Trump...weird to see them walk around but heaven forbid Sheos exist...

BozzyTheDrummer

So I have a tank named Teinaava-the-Defender, does this mean I'll have to change his name since he is named after a character in oblivion? IS that how it works?

EDIT: Never mind, I'm a Tard. Didn't see you said ESO lore characters.

EvilAutoTech

What about all those Dunmer that have great house names for a surname?

JPcrazysquirrel3

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Kalik_Gold wrote: »

Can't use the word Naga also... was trying to incorporate it into my Argonian name.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Naga

I think it was removed due to real world racial issues.

Which is interesting, considering the filter doesn't always quite pick up on some of the more obvious Argonian names that are more inappropriate, lol

Darn, so we can't make an Argonian for Murkmire and name it "Waddup-My-Naga"?

zaria

ovinnik wrote: »

I don't get the collective outrage. Something like this:

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Waldar wrote: »

You could rename him as Sheogoraths alter ego Gorath O'Shey!

...is not only much more creative and interesting, it's (dare I say it) more immersive.

What I also don't get, though, is why such names are policed after the creation of a character, and not during. Couldn't they have blocked names of well established characters, at least of those appearing in ESO, from the very beginning? Their current approach, what with reacting years after a character is made, looks arbitrary and mean-spirited. ...And leads to indignant forum posts.

Yes, it would be very easy easy to add an list of names they don't want you to use into the user list and block it from use.
It would obviously include all major characters and could easy be updated then new dlc come out.
However this require a little bit of planing and resources.
Its far easier to simply dump some fear and uncertainly statement that you can be forced to rename your character even if both pretty lore friendly and your real name because it was used by some shopkeeper in an village in Daggerfall or in an not yet released dlc.

JimmyJuJu

Aside from the bummer news, excellent job replicating Sheo's rugged good looks with that slight hint of crazy. Nicely done.

karekiz

K just rename yourself. Eye Swallow or some such thing.

100% you won't get hit. Been in many pugs with NSFW style names. Silly that the lore RP one gets tagged lol.

Mr_Walker

Yoghurt the Brash.

xylus289_ESO

Pre-launch, I wrote support asking them if my char name was okay and if id ever be forced to change it, but they promised me in an email (i can't find, im scared), that they would NEVER force me to change Hails-to-Sithis, my vampire argonian Dark Brotherhood assassin. If they ever made me change my main char name, I'd quit ESO despite the estimated $500 i spent on crowns.
But, I was pretty much promised, so id quit to make a point and enjoy something else. Thank god they prob have that email archived somewhere.(hoping)

Cinbri

I saw Dagoth Ur on ad side. Zos, get rid of this imposter!

Runs

My main issue with this type of practice is that we aren't told what happens to the name.

Does it get listed and become unavailable for anyone else to take? Or is it available for others. And if it is, what is to stop people from reporting and getting friends to report something they like and want for their own RP purposes?

And why can't we have names that are in game? Why are NPCs so special that no one else can have their name? I get not wanting people to think you are a GM or Dev. But I don't see why my characters parents couldn't have named me after the great NPC so and so.

starkerealm

lordrichter wrote: »

What interests me is @starkerealm and his lore-based naming policy. What happens if ZOS comes along and uses one of his lore-based names? Does he have to rename his character after ZOS moves in and takes it? Argonian lore-based names are going to be generated in massive quantities by ZOS for Murkmire, and lore-friendly people will have a tendency to use the "bites-his-tail" type names. The potential for overlap exists.

P.S. - I have several characters that have some lore component to the name, so this is of personal interest. I tend to assemble character names from places like UESP and various Elder Scrolls name sites. ZOS could, potentially, step on one of my names.

I seriously doubt it'll ever come up. Whatever setting bible that ZOS and Bethesda are referencing probably has more general naming guidlines. So, existing family names mixed with existing first names are unlikely to pop up in future. Ironically the biggest danger is for my High Elf Sorc. That one was made by mashing together parts of existing Altmer names, and might get used elsewhere, but, still the odds are pretty low.

JimmyJuJu

JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »

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Kalik_Gold wrote: »

Can't use the word Naga also... was trying to incorporate it into my Argonian name.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Naga

I think it was removed due to real world racial issues.

Which is interesting, considering the filter doesn't always quite pick up on some of the more obvious Argonian names that are more inappropriate, lol

Darn, so we can't make an Argonian for Murkmire and name it "Waddup-My-Naga"?

I cringed and giggled at the same time on this one. So wrong, it's right.

Gilvoth

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

I don't get it. As long as it's not ZOS employee nickname or something generally recognized as a taboo word what's the problem? If "Molag Bal" will approach you inside the game and ask you in chat for your login and password, will anyone really provide them? or think that it's an npc?
All this stuff smells to me like excessive P.C. from the company's side.

well, the problem is that its NOT a problem unless someone does not like you and they report you and you loose your name simply cause they don't like you, your forced a name change as a punishment, but only YOU get that because someone reported you rather than the Game itself policing it.

StormChaser3000

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

well, the problem is that its NOT a problem unless someone does not like you and they report you and you loose your name simply cause they don't like you, your forced a name change as a punishment, but only YOU get that because someone reported you rather than the Game itself policing it.

Yes, I get it, but it is said in the terms that company will decide at their own discretion in the end... I just don't get how someone could not like and report OPs Sheogorath name and how the company decided to play along with that whiner...
Geez, it's as if Bethesda hired Justin Trudeau to respond to "offensive" name reports... *palmface*

Salvas_Aren

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

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dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

well, the problem is that its NOT a problem unless someone does not like you and they report you and you loose your name simply cause they don't like you, your forced a name change as a punishment, but only YOU get that because someone reported you rather than the Game itself policing it.

Yes, I get it, but it is said in the terms that company will decide at their own discretion in the end... I just don't get how someone could not like and report OPs Sheogorath name and how the company decided to play along with that whiner...
Geez, it's as if Bethesda hired Justin Trudeau to respond to "offensive" name reports... *palmface*

I just imagine an Argonian named Drinks-like-Nord-Man getting reported and renamed Drinks-like-Nord-Person, getting reported again and renamed Drinks-like-Person.

Uhm, well, tbh that's rather sad than funny.

Ardaghion

On the Xbox I ran into a similar situation where I couldn't name a character Liam of Crosswych, the name wasn't taken, it just gave me an error. So I named him Liam of Crosswitch. I also decided to not bother with Ingrid of Mistwatch and named her Ingrid of Mistwitch, although I tried with a different later creation and found that it would have worked. I didn't bother using it though.

LizziAS

Why not just call him Uncle Sheo? Or Spoof the name - Sheo Go Wrath

Davor

I wonder if white man will be allowed? Is Zenimax going that far now or just in names? Seems like lots of companies are going the censorship route now. Would be nice to have a list of names that can't be used and reasons as to why so we can understand. While we may not like what they do we can understand why. Not understanding why is frustrating. Companies shouldn't be frustrating their customers. You want to keep them not give reasons to drive them away.

Ratzkifal

If I can't name my characters after lore characters, then ZOS should stay away from my character names when creating NPCs too! I DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE REMOVAL OF MILORE GARIL! I had the only Milore in ESO before the Dark Brotherhood DLC

Davor

Ratzkifal wrote: »

If I can't name my characters after lore characters, then ZOS should stay away from my character names when creating NPCs too! I DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE REMOVAL OF MILORE GARIL! I had the only Milore in ESO before the Dark Brotherhood DLC

Good point. Would that mean I can't use my real name anymore? Well I can't because someone already used it, but for him/her or any combination of my name can't be used now?

Ashtaris

Other MMO’s I’ve played have not allowed players to name their characters after in-game NPC’s, probably to protect their intellectual property rights. Actually I’m surprised they allowed it at all for a period of time

Glurin

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

I don't get it. As long as it's not ZOS employee nickname or something generally recognized as a taboo word what's the problem? If "Molag Bal" will approach you inside the game and ask you in chat for your login and password, will anyone really provide them? or think that it's an npc?
All this stuff smells to me like excessive P.C. from the company's side.

Believe it or not, yes, there are people that would give up that information. There are still people who fall for the Nigerian prince scam.