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Shuffle dodges rune cage
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Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »Counterplay
Lol
Yes because major evasion doing the dodging for you is counterplay lol -
Taonnor✭✭✭✭✭So they changed it from completly broken OP skill to completly broken useless skill.Guild
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Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
That is pretty broken, it's not even usable and the justification for nerfing frag was to buff rune cage, now it is even worse than it was in the beginning, and both skills are ruined. -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
Great another nerf to sorc with no counter buff. The class is getting very vanilla every patch. Being able to break free was the issue, this was a knee jerk fix.Edited by antihero727 on August 13, 2018 2:27PMVeldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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✭Leased it cant be reflected. try playing a magden and using frost reach to CC.Warden Lives Matter! -
killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
Basically this is a huge buff to stamNB's. They can now shuffle runecage, and sloads. Unless youre a stam user with shuffle/dodge youre basically still screwed. Thats awesome zenimax, time to close down magica classes maybe? -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
Mwa, ha, ha, haaaaaaa!!!!
My Spectre's Eye set just got a buff!!
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✭Hayden_Knight wrote: »Leased it cant be reflected. try playing a magden and using frost reach to CC.
They said new adjustments are coming to rune-cage..this might be the one. -
killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that... -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭#sorclivesmatter2018!!!Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff -
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✭✭✭✭The only counter I ever wanted to Rune Cage was to be able to reliably break free from it, but that's too tall of an order.Daggerfall Covenant - Xbox One NA -
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✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
Basically this is a huge buff to stamNB's. They can now shuffle runecage, and sloads. Unless youre a stam user with shuffle/dodge youre basically still screwed. Thats awesome zenimax, time to close down magica classes maybe?
There still will be magica NBs out there performing quite effectively. But guess what - Stamina NB is getting extremely powerful - mostly due to mixing cloak into the build, ZOS will try to balance cloak, and here is when magica-NB will disappear. Then you can call magica builds extinct.
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killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff? -
Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff?
Yeah but you're not counting fear and fossilize which act same as rune cage. Through block and roll dodge and have no counter at all. -
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
lol
Now it will be completely useless.
In PTS I thought it was about dodge roll only.
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff?
So your comparing a class skill to a weapon skill everyone can have? It’s still a generic skill that pigeon holes sorcs even further to all being the same build.
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Yes, this is intended since Rune Cage can be dodged.
lol
Now it will be completely useless.
In PTS I thought it was about dodge roll only.
No, of course not. ZOS does nerfs thoroughly, even if they felt that a class needed buffs 3 months before.
There are countless threads on the PTS about it. Enjoy your stamNB buff.Main characters:
Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Stormproof (PC EU)
Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)
Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer
Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
All chars 50 @ CP 1100+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU. -
killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff?
Yeah but you're not counting fear and fossilize which act same as rune cage. Through block and roll dodge and have no counter at all.
Fozzilise a sorc and he will still streak away. Fear you break free of. I dont find these skills too hard to deal with. Whats not acceptable is the fact ONE class gets the tools to avoid cage and sloads. That means I can still happily sload away all classes except stamNB. I can also still lock any non stamNB class into my cage. THAT is the problem here. NO counterskill should be given effectively to ONE class. Thats just ***. And magclasses are screwed again. -
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✭✭✭✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff?
Yeah but you're not counting fear and fossilize which act same as rune cage. Through block and roll dodge and have no counter at all.
Fozzilise a sorc and he will still streak away. Fear you break free of. I dont find these skills too hard to deal with. Whats not acceptable is the fact ONE class gets the tools to avoid cage and sloads. That means I can still happily sload away all classes except stamNB. I can also still lock any non stamNB class into my cage. THAT is the problem here. NO counterskill should be given effectively to ONE class. Thats just ***. And magclasses are screwed again.
Fossilize isn’t Talons.Main characters:
Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Stormproof (PC EU)
Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)
Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer
Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
All chars 50 @ CP 1100+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU. -
killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭antihero727 wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »Can we please have the dogeable, blockable, clearly telegraphed frag stun back?
sorcs have stuns apart from runecage. Two actually. Thats not the issue in my opinion. The problem is counter to sloads and runecage being given exclusively to stamNB's. If you dont have shuffle, youre still screwed. Why not make a counter to it ALL classes have easy access to? explain that...
We only have one, if you're talking about flame reach, it is only viable if you have a master's staff
yes Im talking about flame reach, and it still stuns (knockback) your target. At least it did for me yesterday. And shock works too. If you want the 5 sec runecage lock, it HAD to go. It was not healthy at all, and it still isnt, because if youre not set up to rely on dodge, you will still be locked down. So gg nightblades and wtf devs were you thinking about giving ONE class this huge buff?
So your comparing a class skill to a weapon skill everyone can have? It’s still a generic skill that pigeon holes sorcs even further to all being the same build.
I thought the pigeon hole was runecage? Forgive me if I am wrong. I dont really understand you, you want a third stun? How many classes has two effective stuns available? Im not gonna follow this road anyway, as I feel as a sorc a runecage nerf was needed. HOWEVER the way it is handled by zos is pathetic. What should be a nerf is instead a buff to nightblaes. And NB's exclusively.
