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Hide Vampirism option. Please?

  • Mureel
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Look, I do not want to look like a vampire... at all. But, the stealth benefits fit my NB all too well, so it’s crappy to pass them up.

    I would love the option to “hide” my Vampire appearance.

    I disagree. It is the only real drawback to vamp. Use a skin, or a disguise or a hat that covers your face.
  • Aliyavana
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    All the people against hiding vamparism shouldn't use the outfit system or costumes as monster sets and armor/weapon weight affect gameplay a lot more than vamparism. There is no drawback to using the outfit system to hide my heavy gear as light gear, nor my axes as swords, nor my extremely game altering monster sets with motif pieces.

    Many in that crowd say that knowing that the other person is a vampire is important for "mah cyrodils" but don't be a hypocrite and use the outfit system where I can hide my monster sets that make a HUGE difference
    Edited by Aliyavana on May 17, 2018 7:31AM
  • Cave_Canem
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    ...wear a helmet, good grief!
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Theodard wrote: »

    I just want NORMAL skin... I don’t want to be metallic, or made of lava any more than I want to look undead and have red eyes...

    There's a Maomer thing coming soon, which is mostly going to be centralized to the lower back.

    Hopefully, activating it will have a normal skin tone, meaning we might be able to fudge it for most people.
  • Walting
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    I like the look of Vampirs in ESO, it reminds me to most well-known Vampir movies - expect i don't want to have a shadow following me in daylight

    With the option to hide Vampirism with outfits , skins or polymorph ESO offers plenty of ways to bypass the Vampir look
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  • bg22
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    Mureel wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    Look, I do not want to look like a vampire... at all. But, the stealth benefits fit my NB all too well, so it’s crappy to pass them up.

    I would love the option to “hide” my Vampire appearance.

    I disagree. It is the only real drawback to vamp. Use a skin, or a disguise or a hat that covers your face.

    Ah ok... they took away the extra fire damage, and lack of health Regen?
  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    I bet you'd prefer sparkles Wouldn't ya
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  • Astrid
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    No. If you choose to be vamp, you gotta take the ugly.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    I get this argument. My argonian looks like an argonian, but i want him to look like a dunmer because they are way hotter. I should be able to keep my argonian passives and look like a dunmer if I want to. I am all for vampires being able to do this as well.
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  • RubyWarfare
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    I would love to have an option to have my vampire not look like Orlok, but I know that is not going to happen. There have been many, many threads about this, all in vain and I do not think this is going to change any time soon. So like others have said, it seems the only viable options are to:

    1: Wear a skin. Perhaps in the future they will make a more normalish skin. We shall see.
    2: Wear a full helm or face mask. This is what I do.
    3: Stay at stage 1. You do not look that bad at that stage (at least in my opinion), but you are still pretty pasty.
    4: Put on a disguise, though that will revert your character to the default appearance the character had at character creation. You will also lose this disguise if any of the super, duper, annoying as hell sentries in the game spot you, or you otherwise engage in combat.

    There has been some talk about how in ESO lore, vampires are supposed to be able to blend in. I admit I do not know much about the lore, but in my experience, it seems they only are able to blend properly when well fed. So if they were going to compromise, it seems that the best thing to do would be to let your character look normal at stage one only and grow more ugly and monstrous looking with each stage like they have done in previous games.
  • Runschei
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    These forums really annoy me but not because I am against an option to hide the foul (imo) look of vampirism, I fully support it. But it is just that people do not seem to listen what so ever.

    At first you are told that it is a part of the downsides when choosing to become a vampire, which it clearly is NOT. More vulnerability towards fire damage, lower health recovery and having fighters guild abilities deal significantly more damage towards you (yeah try swallowing a dawnbreaker or silver leash) are the downsides. These downsides even apply to you on stage 1, where you do not have ANY benefits what so ever. You are basically human yet you appear as a vampire and you have the downsides.

    Then comes the rest of the people to telling you to just put on a helmet, a skin, a costume or wear one of the disguises you get from quests. I am sorry but I did not spend anything less than 10 minutes in character creation screen for any of my characters only to hide my work under some helmet. Nor do I want to look like a character from tron, a fire atronach or a salami. Wearing one of the disguises obtainable from quests even removes all the cosmetics you have added to your character AFTER character creation screen. This can be tattoos, makeup, jewelry, awesome dwemer goggles etc. from the crown store. Obviously I did not spend x amount of minutes creating every single one of my characters only to have makeup and tattoos fade away by becoming a vampire either. Clearly ZOS has no problem in making cosmetics like those overwrite the vamp skin as the bright red lipstick is really visible.

    Now maybe you did not give a frick frack about the appearance of your character, but this is an RPG after all, people highly care about their appearance. If appearance did not mean anything to anyone we would not have had the outfit station, dye station, costumes, skins, all the different crafting styles or anything. Just let people have the opportunity to style their characters as they want. It does NOT affect anyone else.
  • ArchMikem
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    Obligatory "If you want to be a monster you will look like a monster" comment.

    My own Nightblade goes without the bonuses just peachy.
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  • Rawkan
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    Nah, you're getting bonus stats from being a vamp, pay with your looks.
  • Aliyavana
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    Rawkan wrote: »
    Nah, you're getting bonus stats from being a vamp, pay with your looks.

    if you use heavy armor don't use light armor appearances as you are getting the heavy armor stats without looking like heavy armor. Especially don't hide your axes with swords if you do dw as "mah cyrodil" is important.
  • Skwor
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    Tell you what, give me all the werewolf benefits without having to be in werewolf form, stop limiting werewolf to an ultimate only function and then I might consider you have any real issue to complain about with a vampire appearance in the game.

    Get over it, vampires are already OP, a comestic appearance is nothing the take issue with.

    Edited by Skwor on May 17, 2018 8:54PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I will say what I say every time I see this thread pop up:

    Dear ZOS,

    I dont want to look like an extra from the walking dead when I am a vampire.

    Please and Thank You,

    Bear
  • Aliyavana
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Tell you what, give me all the werewolf benefits without having to be in werewolf form, stop limiting werewolf to an ultimate only function and then I might consider you have any real issue to complain about with a vampire appearance in the game.

    Get over it, vampires are already OP, a little comestic appearance is nothing the take issue with.

    no, appearance is important in mmorpgs. Do you know how ridiculous your argument is? werewolves don't have to face extra poison nor drawbacks from dawnbreaker until they transform. Vampires are always weak to fire and dawnbreaker and they don't have the option to hide vampirism. Werewolves can hide vampirism by being in human form. Plus it would look like an animation disaster to make humans do werewolf animations.
    Edited by Aliyavana on May 17, 2018 8:57PM
  • Skwor
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Tell you what, give me all the werewolf benefits without having to be in werewolf form, stop limiting werewolf to an ultimate only function and then I might consider you have any real issue to complain about with a vampire appearance in the game.

    Get over it, vampires are already OP, a little comestic appearance is nothing the take issue with.

    no, appearance is important in mmorpgs. Do you know how ridiculous your argument is? werewolves don't have to face extra poison nor drawbacks from dawnbreaker until they transform. Vampires are always weak to fire and dawnbreaker and they don't have the option to hide vampirism. Werewolves can hide vampirism by being in human form. Plus it would look like an animation disaster to make humans do werewolf animations.

    Seems you missed the point, not surprising. I only get werewolf effects when I look like a werewolf, why should you get vampire bonuses when you do not look like a vampire.

    Balance acheived, pretty much leaves nothing left of the vampire appearance argument.
    Edited by Skwor on May 17, 2018 9:02PM
  • Skwor
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    I will say what I say every time I see this thread pop up:

    Dear ZOS,

    I dont want to look like an extra from the walking dead when I am a vampire.

    Please and Thank You,

    Bear

    Then stop being a vampire
  • Dystopia2020
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    I get this argument. My argonian looks like an argonian, but i want him to look like a dunmer because they are way hotter. I should be able to keep my argonian passives and look like a dunmer if I want to. I am all for vampires being able to do this as well.

    I rolled all Altmer because of the look with the dark skin and Asian eyes among other things, I don't know if you are trying to be funny, but what you are saying is ridiculous, why should you get to look like me? Why have any races at all?

    If you are a vampire, you are going to look a certain way and there are many ways to deal with it as others have stated.
    Let us have our gold/brown/grey/green skin to ourselves please, as a reward for not being a vamp.
    Edited by Dystopia2020 on May 17, 2018 9:19PM
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  • Vanthras79
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    Perhaps I should write to the Dawnguard with so many vampires on the loose. :wink:
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  • Gythral
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    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Perhaps I should write to the Dawnguard with so many vampires on the loose. :wink:

    They seems not to care about Vampires in this era, they are more interested in lost standards and dont care that a Vampire returned it :)

    Edited by Gythral on May 17, 2018 9:26PM
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  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Perhaps I should write to the Dawnguard with so many vampires on the loose. :wink:

    The Dawnguard really, that's adorable, you think thier a threat.
  • Aliyavana
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Tell you what, give me all the werewolf benefits without having to be in werewolf form, stop limiting werewolf to an ultimate only function and then I might consider you have any real issue to complain about with a vampire appearance in the game.

    Get over it, vampires are already OP, a little comestic appearance is nothing the take issue with.

    no, appearance is important in mmorpgs. Do you know how ridiculous your argument is? werewolves don't have to face extra poison nor drawbacks from dawnbreaker until they transform. Vampires are always weak to fire and dawnbreaker and they don't have the option to hide vampirism. Werewolves can hide vampirism by being in human form. Plus it would look like an animation disaster to make humans do werewolf animations.

    Seems you missed the point, not surprising. I only get werewolf effects when I look like a werewolf, why should you get vampire bonuses when you do not look like a vampire.

    Balance acheived, pretty much leaves nothing left of the vampire appearance argument.

    Vampires can hide their appearance by lore, nothing bout werewolves doing that
  • Recette
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    There's clear gameplay benefits associated with being a Vampire, so having a drawback on the aesthetic and roleplay side of the spectrum seems totally fine with me. :smile:
  • Malnutrition
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  • Chrlynsch
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    I'd be fine having the option to have a normal skin for vampires. As long as it strips all the passives away.

    Seriously, 3 years ago I was against this, now with all the polymorphs and skins available it doesn't make a lick of sense not to let it happen. But if ZOS wants some real cash... put it as a super rare apex skin in crown crates... wait 4 months and then make it available for 5k. >:)
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