Jewelry Crafting: Get ready for the worst grind in ESO's history

Cpt_Teemo

Tell me about it nearly 200 max tier JC writs and only 1 swift ring + 2/10 legendary mats to show for it come on ZoS I mean really this is like korean grind bs

AndyMac

The basic craft is easy enough to level - but the upgrade path is ridiculous to the point of being broken.

Getting upgrade gold mats from dust requires finding nodes. Good luck with that because they are being cherry picked. So whatever the nodes spawn might be on paper, it's a couple per zone in practice.

The alternative is to do goodness knows how many vet trials.

Yeah, nah.

This needs a rethink.

Nebthet78

They need to make it so that if you deconstruct from another jewellery peice you get a plate and not a grain.

That would keep players continuing to do content while giving them something they can sell at a reasonable price to to the rest of the players in guild stores.

lientier

I got to level 32 now, and refined all the platinum I had gathered about 600something, and got 4 chromium grains. Well the sample size is tiny, but still seems like less than one grain per 100raw mats

Cpt_Teemo

lientier wrote: »

I got to level 32 now, and refined all the platinum I had gathered about 600something, and got 4 chromium grains. Well the sample size is tiny, but still seems like less than one grain per 100raw mats

Wow you have crazy luck then I refined over 15k once and only got 9

DemonDruaga

Lol.. If it is like that, i'll need to give up my job so i can aquire a gold ring in the next 1 or 2 years.
Chances are higher that i'll find gold in real life and craft myself a real ring.

TheCyberDruid

I refined ~2.5k grains and got 13 chronium grains. Getting to 80 will take 'a while'...

redspecter23

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Tell me about it nearly 200 max tier JC writs and only 1 swift ring + 2/10 legendary mats to show for it come on ZoS I mean really this is like korean grind bs

This is a disturbing example. I was assuming (likely incorrectly) that max JC writs would award a gold mat at the same rate as max BS, WW and Clothing writs, somewhere around 30%. Your sample size of 200 and a 1% drop rate is very close to my own personal drop rate. I've gotten 2 total gold mats from writs since day one for JC. About 35 - 40 of those have been max tier and one of those 2 gold mats actually came from a tier 1 writ.

If these numbers aren't just horrible RNG and are actually indicative of the drop rate for writs then that basically removes that as an option for gaining gold mats. That leaves just refining and decon of gold jewelry. That's not looking good at all.

Lirkin

The drop rates are sick and so are the node rates!

lientier

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

lientier wrote: »

I got to level 32 now, and refined all the platinum I had gathered about 600something, and got 4 chromium grains. Well the sample size is tiny, but still seems like less than one grain per 100raw mats

Wow you have crazy luck then I refined over 15k once and only got 9

why crazy? sounds about the same. with my 'luck' it would be 8 for 1,2k refining, so 9 for 1,5k is about the same (not exactly, but I mean it will vary with luck)

lientier

Lirkin wrote: »

The drop rates are sick and so are the node rates!

I actually dont think the node rates are bad, except for the psijic portals..

Acharnor

I am usually pretty forgiving of the game, but this grind is BS! You should not have to wander over half of Tamriel to find enough nodes to refine to make a couple of pieces of jewelry for a writ that then rewards you with mats for the tier you are not making anymore.

I am treating the portals like a rare treat but the nodes and refining and 10x this to make a that are nuts. I really hope they revisit this. I get it is supposed to be a bit of a deal to do but I got a life on the outside. LOL.

Acharnor

One of my current complaints about the nodes is I am in the silver tier and keep finding platinum!

lientier

you guys know that probably too many people are just farming the jewellery nodes and nobody is picking up rubedite, so it sits there and never respawns as jewellery material

Acharnor

Nah - I pick up everything! Doing my part to convert that stuff. LOL.

lientier

mee too but I bet lots of of lots of people dont

Ley

lientier wrote: »

you guys know that probably too many people are just farming the jewellery nodes and nobody is picking up rubedite, so it sits there and never respawns as jewellery material

I am guilty of doing this. I won't bother dismounting for anything but jewelry nodes. If I'm already dismounted though I'll harvest metal nodes to allow jewelry nodes to possibly spawn in their place for other players.

maryriv

Oh quit yer winging the stores are already FLOODED with mats. Just go buy what you want, this game is saturated with mats.

Nebthet78

maryriv wrote: »

Oh quit yer winging the stores are already FLOODED with mats. Just go buy what you want, this game is saturated with mats.

Players aren't whining that the Platinum or other mats are not available.. They are complaining about the fact that it requires 10 times UPGRADE materials to improve the gold jewellery, which are an insane grind.

I have farmed enough to make 1 Chromium plate and from it I have over 3000 platinum ounce and a whole bunch of other mats. Even the purple grains are hard to come by. I've only been able to make 4 plates out of all the items I've deconned to get to level 50 in addition to refined.

ZOS needs to change this! It's too much, and isn't worth the effort compared to just buying the rings from the Golden vendor.

Cpt_Teemo

lientier wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

lientier wrote: »

I got to level 32 now, and refined all the platinum I had gathered about 600something, and got 4 chromium grains. Well the sample size is tiny, but still seems like less than one grain per 100raw mats

Wow you have crazy luck then I refined over 15k once and only got 9

why crazy? sounds about the same. with my 'luck' it would be 8 for 1,2k refining, so 9 for 1,5k is about the same (not exactly, but I mean it will vary with luck)

I got 9 lesser tempers in 15k dust not full tempers

Cpt_Teemo

redspecter23 wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Tell me about it nearly 200 max tier JC writs and only 1 swift ring + 2/10 legendary mats to show for it come on ZoS I mean really this is like korean grind bs

This is a disturbing example. I was assuming (likely incorrectly) that max JC writs would award a gold mat at the same rate as max BS, WW and Clothing writs, somewhere around 30%. Your sample size of 200 and a 1% drop rate is very close to my own personal drop rate. I've gotten 2 total gold mats from writs since day one for JC. About 35 - 40 of those have been max tier and one of those 2 gold mats actually came from a tier 1 writ.

If these numbers aren't just horrible RNG and are actually indicative of the drop rate for writs then that basically removes that as an option for gaining gold mats. That leaves just refining and decon of gold jewelry. That's not looking good at all.

Exactly they need to add hirelings or make the rewards for doing them a whole lot better

Palidon

It is a pathetic grind. They don't even have a hireling skill for Jewelry which I feel is wrong since all the other crafting skill lines have one.

TheCyberDruid

On a different note: I'm at 63 chronium grains now. 'Only' 17 to go... Yep, this grind is really the worst.

TheRealPotoroo

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

On a different note: I'm at 63 chronium grains now. 'Only' 17 to go... Yep, this grind is really the worst.

LOL, I've got 6.

lygerseye

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

On a different note: I'm at 63 chronium grains now. 'Only' 17 to go... Yep, this grind is really the worst.

I do crafting writs daily... I just got my first Chromium grain last night. Poor thing looks so lonely there in my crafting bag.

Iselin

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

On a different note: I'm at 63 chronium grains now. 'Only' 17 to go... Yep, this grind is really the worst.

LOL, I've got 6.

I have 17 but then, I do occasionally take a time out from the obsessive pursuit of chromium grains to do other things such as playing the game. I suspect you do too

jmgrant44ub17_ESO

This is not fun. If you put something in a video game that is not fun you have defeated the purpose of the game which in most cases is to have fun. OK so you locked jewelry crafting behind the paywall but then you make people that payed for it feel like they wasted their money. Why you did not incorporate traits in to the rest of the sets in the game on some level is beyond me. If I just want to play the game and have fun and not turn it into a “job” I may have jewelry crafting done a year from now.

I'm not privy to the conversations that go on behind the closed doors of ZOS but I think you are looking at some other mmo's that are grind fest and think this is a good thing. Those other games may have eaten into your player base but grinding with hair pulling RNG are loosing those game players also. People are hungry for a good game and the community was so hyped up for the new mmo last mouth but luck for you the release was a total flop. Somebody needs to walk into the suits office and tell them “we need more money for development” before it's to late.

PocketAces13xb

this is some serious BS of a grind

_Ahala_

Drop rates should be balanced so that 8 chromium platings cost around 80-100k not 800-1000k

Feric51

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Drop rates should be balanced so that 8 chromium platings cost around 80-100k not 800-1000k

While I agree that the rarity/cost of chromium is extreme at this point, I don't think it's feasible to think that upgrading a piece of jewelry to gold should, or will, ever cost less than the price of jewelry from The Golden - 250-300k per jewelry would be fine with me.

80-100k is only 25% more than the current cost (XB-NA) to gold out armor/weapons with tempering alloys right now, and jewelry should be more valuable than that.

If we ever hope to reach a compromise with ZOS, we have to be realistic.


Edit - spelling.