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Imbue weapons may need a nerf.

Micah_Bayer
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It's nearly broken m. It adds like 8k dmg to your light attacks..Maybe no pve..but pvp where burst matters, this is a bit insane
  • Avran_Sylt
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    It's meant to be a spammable ability, like strife, or force pulse, but dependent on your light attack. The 2s duration is there to try and prevent it from being delayed burst.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    It's meant to be a spammable ability, like strife, or force pulse, but dependent on your light attack. The 2s duration is there to try and prevent it from being delayed burst.

    Yes I know it is a spammable but..it hits much harder than than other skills
  • Maulkin
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    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.
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  • Sparr0w
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    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills
  • Maulkin
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.
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  • Maulkin
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    Edited by Maulkin on May 1, 2018 3:25PM
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets
  • Maulkin
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.
    Edited by Maulkin on May 1, 2018 3:29PM
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  • mesmerizedish
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Is your argument seriously “Imbue Weapons is overpowered because it is buffed by stat bonuses from sets”?
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    Good day. I mean the game mechanics are pretty simple. Light attacks are buffed by spell dmg and magicka. Your light attacks get buffed by the sets that increase light attack dmg. Then the skill buffs your light attack dmg.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Is your argument seriously “Imbue Weapons is overpowered because it is buffed by stat bonuses from sets”?

    No because I can kill someone with 2 light attacks and a curse. Maybe a frag too without even trying.
  • Jeezye
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    I have always seen this skill as a spammable like everyone here. Now that I’m thinking about it though, this skill might ideed cause strong burst situations in PvP because of its delay. Think of a sorc that does curse, casts imbue and then animation cancels his next auto attack with a frag. The light attack and frag will land at the same time, but being buffed with imbue. If you see it that way, imbue and frag (which we consider two spammables) will land at the same time.

    Basically good players can weave the imbue buffed light attack in any spammable, e.g. surprise attack, which might cause unmanageable burst.

    Can someone try this? On my way to vacations atm :blush:
    Edited by Jeezye on May 1, 2018 3:34PM
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Listen if you guys have tested this in pts. Throw away force pulse because this is a much better option. Enemies can hardly see it. Hits harder than force pulse and it can be timed into a burst that can Insta kill people. If you spec into a light attack buipd. You Will be a god.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Jeezye wrote: »
    I have always seen this skill as a spammable like everyone here. Now that I’m thinking about it though, this skill might ideed cause strong burst situations in PvP because of its delay. Think of a sorc that does curse, casts imbue and then animation cancels his next auto attack with a frag. The light attack and frag will land at the same time, but being buffed with imbue. If you see it that way, imbue and frag (which we consider two spammables) will land at the same time.

    Basically good players can weave the imbue buffed light attack in any spammable, e.g. surprise attack, which might cause unmanageable burst.

    Can someone try this? On my way to vacations atm :blush:

    Been tried already I am specifically talking about mag sorc. Mag nb. And mag temp. All can do strong bursts
  • themaddaedra
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.
  • Darlon
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    It is a separate damage component though, that’s independent from your light attack damage... so things that buff your light attack have no effect on imbue weapons... that is what everyone here is trying to tell you....
    Edited by Darlon on May 1, 2018 3:48PM
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Darlon wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    It is a separate damage component though, that’s independent from your light attack damage... so things that buff your light attack have no effect on imbue weapons... that is what everyone here is trying to tell you....

    If you have tested it on the pts. That is not the case. If it's a bug then that's on zos. It definitely gets buffed. Otherwise it'd have the same dmg with different setups.
    Edited by Micah_Bayer on May 1, 2018 3:53PM
  • Darlon
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    Darlon wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    It is a separate damage component though, that’s independent from your light attack damage... so things that buff your light attack have no effect on imbue weapons... that is what everyone here is trying to tell you....

    If you have tested it on the pts. That is not the case. If it's a bug then that's on zos. It definitely gets buffed. Otherwise it'd have the same dmg with different setups.

    I have... when my light attack gets buffed (by empower for instance) the imbue weapon damage stays the same... as it should be...

    However, it does change with different setups, but that’s only logical, more spell damage will increase the damage, as it does for every other skill (like other spammables like force pulse) and that’s perfectly fine.. but things that specifically buff light attacks (elegant set, empower, etc) have no effect on imbue weapon...
    Edited by Darlon on May 1, 2018 3:57PM
  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    no where in there says that imbue weapons buffs your LIGHT ATTACK DAMAGE! It adds physical damage TO your LIGHT ATTACKS which is on a seperate dmg modifier and a Status effect which is also on a seperate modifier. If you run elegant for instance, only your base light attacks will get buffed. When you look at the tool tip running elegant or another regular setup the tool tips on Imbue weapons will be the same. Thats what people are trying to tell you. Sorry but your wrong.
  • Darlon
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    no where in there says that imbue weapons buffs your LIGHT ATTACK DAMAGE! It adds physical damage TO your LIGHT ATTACKS which is on a seperate dmg modifier and a Status effect which is also on a seperate modifier. If you run elegant for instance, only your base light attacks will get buffed. When you look at the tool tip running elegant or another regular setup the tool tips on Imbue weapons will be the same. Thats what people are trying to tell you. Sorry but your wrong.

    Exactly.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Care to elaborate? How is "broken" or stronger than any of the existing weaves like:

    LA+Force pulse
    LA+Funnel
    LA+Whip
    LA+Concealed/Surprise Attack
    LA+Cliffracer
    etc.

    It takes a CD to apply, like any other spammable skill.

    It can be abused with sets that buff light attack dmg. Combined with the buff already coming to LA's in the patch notes. Combined with this new skill. You can get some pretty hefty dmg. Maybe 10k+ light attacks in pvp you wouldn't need to use any other skills

    No it can't. It's not light attack dmg and does not scale with these sets.

    It's a skill that is applied when you do light attack dmg.

    It gets buffed by your stats and sets as does any other skill. Even if they aren't tied to the skill itself they buff your current stats and this skill buffs your light attack which is buffed by your stats or sets

    Alright so you have no idea what you're talking about. G'day.

    ^this. I had so many problems trying to tell people this set doesn't buff your light attacks. So many people got confused it's incredible. Being confused is something but being a stubborn to not understand what's being said is another thing.
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Hits less than some other spammables & requires you to perfect weave, which not many people can actually do...

    Force pulse does not hit me for 8k in pvp. And since it is two light attacks. You can get 2x8k bursts in a second

    If you got hit by an 8k Imbue Weapon, then you can get hit by an 8k Force Pulse. They have the same tooltip.

    It's not two light attacks. I don't know what you're talking about.

    ^ this also. There's nothing wrong with the skill. They just let everyone into balance stuff these days.

    Imbue Weapons

    Casting this skill applies a buff that adds extra Physical Damage to your next two Light Attacks for 2s. One morph turns this into a Magicka skill and applies a random status effect (Burning, Concussed or Chilled). The other morph heals the caster for 15% of the damage done.

    Maybe you are running into so many people because you are wrong. I think you should read. Adds a buff that adds extra dmg to your light attack.

    no where in there says that imbue weapons buffs your LIGHT ATTACK DAMAGE! It adds physical damage TO your LIGHT ATTACKS which is on a seperate dmg modifier and a Status effect which is also on a seperate modifier. If you run elegant for instance, only your base light attacks will get buffed. When you look at the tool tip running elegant or another regular setup the tool tips on Imbue weapons will be the same. Thats what people are trying to tell you. Sorry but your wrong.

    That is not what I was talking about. I specifically said in addition to it being buffed. That even if it doesn't buff your specific light attacks. In addition to your light attacks with imbue is a ridiculously strong combo.
  • technohic
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    Its the same as using an ability with a light attack. I dont see it being much different than other spammables.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Your light attack does dmg and then the skill does dmg. Together. It's strong as hell.
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    technohic wrote: »
    Its the same as using an ability with a light attack. I dont see it being much different than other spammables.

    Except it's stronger than force pulse and swallow soul m that is my biggest issue with it. You are giving nothing for that buff.
  • Avran_Sylt
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    It's a separate damage instance, like an enchantment.

    It does not get buffed by things like the CP star that increases light attack damage.

    Different setups may have different max mag/spell damage, which will alter its damage.

    It can take advantage of projectile based light attacks to create a burst effect much the same as any other instant cast ability, but can also be wasted if not used within 2s.
    Edited by Avran_Sylt on May 1, 2018 4:05PM
  • Darlon
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    Your light attack does dmg and then the skill does dmg. Together. It's strong as hell.

    It is not any different than light attack + force pulse... takes the same time to use, only difference is the damage from imbue applies at the exact same time as the light attack, but you can’t use it any faster than the other combination, still have to use imbue after (or before) every light attack
    Edited by Darlon on May 1, 2018 4:05PM
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