Please limit the anniversary event. It is damaging the economy

Skwor

ESO has one of the best economies of any MMO I have played. The event recks havoc on the economy, extending it will be very damaging long after it is over. Please do not saturate the markets. Doing so will make it such that everything will be easy mode to aquire and result in removing some motivation to play the game. Just my opinion but I do believe we are are already seeing many items in the market collapse.

Chickenstein

Please limit the amount of threads about that. It's damaging my forum view.

AzraelKrieg

The items in the market would have dropped in price naturally anyway. And as it is, the drop rate on motifs regardless of the style is still quite low, low enough to still maintain a scarcity.

DieAlteHexe

Buyer's market!

GeorgeBlack

Skwor wrote: »

ESO has one of the best economies of any MMO I have played. The event recks havoc on the economy, extending it will be very damaging long after it is over. Please do not saturate the markets. Doing so will make it such that everything will be easy mode to aquire and result in removing some motivation to play the game. Just my opinion but I do believe we are are already seeing many items in the market collapse.

No it doesnt. What economy are you talking about

Low income players go by with 50k a week.
Mid with 250k-1mil
High income 10 or more mil.

There is no economy with such vast difference between pockets and certainly the poor majority of the player base deserves to make some gold from SOME of the motifs they wont use.

Besides lol...

When you can farm/craft everything by yourself, you dont need to sell.
And unless you are a trading guild leader you wont have gold gear within a day.

twev

Skwor wrote: »

ESO has one of the best economies of any MMO I have played. The event recks havoc on the economy, extending it will be very damaging long after it is over. Please do not saturate the markets. Doing so will make it such that everything will be easy mode to aquire and result in removing some motivation to play the game. Just my opinion but I do believe we are are already seeing many items in the market collapse.

All items in any one motif class are generally not given the same RNG weight.

They can flood the market, sure, with much loot, but all they have to do is make all the weapons in each motif drop at 0.01% of the other items in the motif to keep the class rare and expensive.

jkolb2030

I for one, am excited about the extended duration...

I focus most of my game time on end game raiding (what is left of end game raiding), so when i have a chance to catch up on motifs without spending gold (that i never seem to be overabundant on) i am happy and content.

I also find it as motivation to finish up getting wayshrines, dolmen completions, and dungeon completions on my alternate characters.

The market prices going down, are a welcomed sight..

To each their own.

Pangnirtung

The event reeks havoc on the economy if you are a seller and enjoy reaping the rewards of your in game time.

The event is a blessing to those who will be using traders to buy in game items w/gold.

So there you have it. Two sides of the same coin.

Like in the real world, change is a constant and you adapt to it.

Skwor

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The items in the market would have dropped in price naturally anyway. And as it is, the drop rate on motifs regardless of the style is still quite low, low enough to still maintain a scarcity.

You are not considering the buyers effect during this event. For motifs many people are filling out their motifs which will lead to a reduced market for them after it is over. Scarcity matters little when those who would buy already have the item.

Turelus

The only thing really tanking from the event is motifs. Maybe tempers a little just because more people are doing crafting writs (surveys).

Tier 1 crafting materials are up in price because of the event, gold is moving around the game not just within the same groups who trade (more new players are selling items).

People are getting new and rare furnishing designs they can craft and sell.

I don't think it's going to kill the economy, just stimulate it in ways it's been stagnant for a year. At the most some rich players who those who specialised in motif trading will lose out. Many more people are gaining from it though.

VaxtinTheWolf

Extend the event another day. Game economy be damned. I like getting things I'd otherwise probably never get.

I'm the minority that doesn't enjoy paying so much for what I consider simple things in general from other players. I've never liked Auction houses very much anyway and I don't earn gold very quickly. Yes, I'm aware that's my own fault.

themaddaedra

Hmmm, let's see... Buoyant Armiger has been in game for almost a year now, yet it's still so expensive that even i got loads of money, i didn't buy because it's not what a motif should be worth. And this event didn't even take it down too much, it's still by far the most expensive motif in game atm. Sure ZoS should say sorry for giving people the chance to actually get some pages.

In the other hand, this event actually brought it's own economy, where i earned like 1.5 million in 10 days. And i'm not even one of the lucky people with their drop rates.

I'm terribly failing to see where the market is collapsing. All i see is it being fun and live af.

TaranWanderer

I hear what you are saying, but I really don't agree.

But I do believe that the entire economy needs to shift towards a crafting-centered one: needed special materials dropped in hard areas combined with crafters that invest massive amounts of time in their fields- foragers and makers. Also a return to the "best gear in game is craftable" mentality.

SaintSubwayy

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The items in the market would have dropped in price naturally anyway. And as it is, the drop rate on motifs regardless of the style is still quite low, low enough to still maintain a scarcity.

thats only partially true, since Motifs which are hard to get (Abahs Watch, Ancient Orc, Trinimac ect.) where goin up in value, since the demand is bigger than the supply. Which is kinda obvious, when you can only do for example Arna in Goldcoast once per day)

Morgul667

We cant play anyway so your economy should be fine ^^

Beodamacsa

I'm still very new to this game and before this awesome event started I really only new glass style (won in guild raffle) and a few pieces of hollow jack, skin changer and celestial. This event really helps us new players get some nice new styles so we can update our outfits in the outfit stations and craft new cool armours and weapons. I think and this is just my opinion but people who post these kind of threads have a lot of gold from buying and selling flipping and crafting to sell and have played the game for more than a year. I think it would be nice if they could remember what its like to be new to a game and how daunting and expensive it can be to get your account to a good place. Try to think of us newbies and not just your pockets.

Casdha

I'd almost bet that if you had access to the game stats, This is the best the economy has done all year.

Buying motifs in this game is like playing the stock market, the value fluctuates. Motifs that are behind hard and\or group content will remain relatively high and/or recover, while motifs that come from solo content like dailies will always go down over time.

Prof_Bawbag

Those poor CWC purple panel blueprints.

Slick_007

is this an alt of the other guy?

Kiralyn2000

Skwor

Ozby wrote: »

I'm still very new to this game and before this awesome event started I really only new glass style (won in guild raffle) and a few pieces of hollow jack, skin changer and celestial. This event really helps us new players get some nice new styles so we can update our outfits in the outfit stations and craft new cool armours and weapons. I think and this is just my opinion but people who post these kind of threads have a lot of gold from buying and selling flipping and crafting to sell and have played the game for more than a year. I think it would be nice if they could remember what its like to be new to a game and how daunting and expensive it can be to get your account to a good place. Try to think of us newbies and not just your pockets.

I get what you are saying but consider this, why is it that one would think a new players achievments should be enttled to less effory than the long term loyal customer's achievements?

Should not so much play time be rewarded in some capacity?

Mureel

Oh pffft. I for one am actually having fun all over cyro doing those dailies and random pvp and meeting all sorts of people I'd have not met otherwise!

yiasemi

Oh yeah got more than one of all of those already....
Oh wait, I used them on my crafter already...
Oh noes I can't sell them in guild
Oh wait i can so rock walking through Elden Root in my new gear.
Oh noes the traders will be poor.
Oh wait, I get a memorable anniversary celebration to remember
Oh noes I really should be trading on the market
Oh wait, I am already in various saving schemes for my real future and that of my real children.

Lord_Ninka

Fair enough that you like a stable market, and I'm not too crazy about motifs dropping out of nowhere myself, I like to feel like my character is actually earning them, but it's a bit weird asking that other people don't get presents so you can earn more money.

ATomiX96

i hope they prolong the event even further so more traders QQ and whine around

Jerkling

There is nothing of value to buy with Gold in ESO. So what "economy" are you refering to?

Everything i want or need i can easily afford and i'm not even doing any trading. So i serioulsy don't get your point.

VexingArcanist

It balances out the ridiculous rise in motif prices after outfitting was introduced. Months from now the correction and outfit surge will have normalized.

Zhaedri

Being someone that doesn't have a ton of in game gold, I really am enjoying this event. It gives me the chance at motifs and furnishing patterns I normally wouldn't otherwise get. It's a nice change from the usual drudgery of being a peasant of tamriel.

I suppose all you rich trading bigwigs will just have to console yourselves with only four new pure gold statues of yourselves instead of five.

There, there. Have some more wine. The rest of us will go back to eating free found 'pork' and grinding away our souls to line your pockets again soon enough.

JHartEllis

Getting overloaded with anniversary rewards is great in the short term, and I definitely encourage people to earn lots of lucrative jubilee reward boxes and to buy any cheap motifs/plans/recipes/mats from the guild traders as the event progresses. Longer term, however, the depressed prices do severely skew incentive structures for a wide variety of game content like dungeons and dailies that have motif rewards. For example, after the event, players won't be grouping as much for Bloodroot Forge. If players are responsive to incentives, which they largely are, they'll find other things to do while the anniversary-induced supply glut works itself out.

Nemesis7884

My gut tells me the motif drop rates have already been drastically reduced since the event started....

Skwor

Lord_Ninka wrote: »

Fair enough that you like a stable market, and I'm not too crazy about motifs dropping out of no where myself, I like to feel like my character is actually earning them, but it's a bit weird asking that other people don't get presents so you can earn more money.

Odd, what I am asking for is that everyone else put the same amount of effort to earn what I earned in game. You sound like you do not believe in effort verses reward.

Not much point in a game if we remove any real effort or achievements. Kind of goes against all the game theory I have l have learned