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"Note that the Summerset Chapter is required to use the new (Jewelry) Crafting Stations."
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Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »EvilAutoTech wrote: »skinnycheeks wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you clarify this statement? I interpreted it as even those that own Summerset and can access the jewelrycrafting stations cannot deconstruct jewelry that was looted from before the Summerset expansion.
She also said nothing about upgrading or transmuting jewelry you already own. I guess we really need to read that upcoming article.
You will still be able to upgrade, transmute, or even research existing jewelry. You just won't be able to deconstruct it.
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OtisMiller✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone, wanted to clear a few things up for you. Summerset is required to use any Jewelry Crafting Stations found in Tamriel. If you don’t own Summerset, you will still be able to find Jewelry Crafting resource nodes to sell, and you will also be able to purchase crafted jewelry from others. Set jewelry will be BoE, non-set will not be bound. Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch.
We're currently working on a very extensive Jewelry Crafting article that we plan to publish before we start the next PTS cycle, which will hopefully answer a lot more questions.
I'm not one to typically complain and I've always defended ZOS, but this is absolute BS. I spent master writs on housing coffers for the SOLE PURPOSE of storing my golden jewelry that I've been holding onto for YEARS. Punishing those that had the foresight to store their items is low. Moving forward, when a new DLC drops, you shouldn't be able to decon ANY gear that you acquired prior to the new DLC dropping.1 -
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »EvilAutoTech wrote: »skinnycheeks wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you clarify this statement? I interpreted it as even those that own Summerset and can access the jewelrycrafting stations cannot deconstruct jewelry that was looted from before the Summerset expansion.
She also said nothing about upgrading or transmuting jewelry you already own. I guess we really need to read that upcoming article.
You will still be able to upgrade, transmute, or even research existing jewelry. You just won't be able to deconstruct it.
Droppable jewelry transmutation confirmed!!
Edited by Cinbri on March 30, 2018 4:37PM2 -
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✭@ZOS_GinaBruno I have spent thousands of gold and much time collecting jewelery. Are you kidding that we can't take it apart??!? Why didn't you say that right away? Why even do that? I have at least 85 pieces of jewelry now. Why penalize people who play your game and anticipate you making awesome decisions in the future and preparing accordingly?? I'm literally about to say screw it over this. All this is is a big FU to active players. Does anyone know if there a return policy on pre-orders? This is a really bad decision. Please change it!
You took a risk and you lost. Nobody is punishing you. You ASSUMED that hoarding jewelry would give you an edge when the new chapter came out. And you were wrong.
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✭✭✭The point of the post has changed a lot. This isn't a P2W post. Its not P2W. It is still very cheesy though. I am glad we can at least trade stuff, and think that it is fine that we cannot decon old jewelry. They at least want it to feel like content.
I still want to know if you can upgrade BoP jewlery, if so it gives an advantage over those who have to wait until it appears in the vendor or have to farm it from vet trials.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
Any clarification on above? Will the GV be changed to update this changes to availability.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »EvilAutoTech wrote: »skinnycheeks wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you clarify this statement? I interpreted it as even those that own Summerset and can access the jewelrycrafting stations cannot deconstruct jewelry that was looted from before the Summerset expansion.
She also said nothing about upgrading or transmuting jewelry you already own. I guess we really need to read that upcoming article.
You will still be able to upgrade, transmute, or even research existing jewelry. You just won't be able to deconstruct it.
Does this apply to BoP jewelry as well? I am specifically asking about trial jewelry.1 -
SecretJoy✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »I'm not one to typically complain and I've always defended ZOS, but this is absolute BS. I spent master writs on housing coffers for the SOLE PURPOSE of storing my golden jewelry that I've been holding onto for YEARS. Punishing those that had the foresight to store their items is low. Moving forward, when a new DLC drops, you shouldn't be able to decon ANY gear that you acquired prior to the new DLC dropping.
Yeah...but they never stated that we'd be able to deconstruct old jewelry. Don't see how they're punishing you...
And your argument that we shouldn't be able to deconstruct any old items each time a DLC drops makes no sense. This is the first time a new crafting skill line has been implemented. It's a totally different situation.
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Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭This is basically the 4 yrs old Imperial Race Pay Wall BS all over again....ZOS NEVER LEARN....
I am sure there will be "Jewelry Crafting Upgrade" for $5-10 eventually as well lol
Oh and don't forget.....
The whole entire design of Jewelry Crafting will be concept from birth to design to implementation AROUND MONETIZING for the CROWN STORE $$$$$....all to speed things up for your...
CONVENIENCE!!
Enjoy
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »EvilAutoTech wrote: »skinnycheeks wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you clarify this statement? I interpreted it as even those that own Summerset and can access the jewelrycrafting stations cannot deconstruct jewelry that was looted from before the Summerset expansion.
She also said nothing about upgrading or transmuting jewelry you already own. I guess we really need to read that upcoming article.
You will still be able to upgrade, transmute, or even research existing jewelry. You just won't be able to deconstruct it.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
Considering the fact that we will not be able to deconstruct jewelry from before the Summerset expansion. Will there be a way to determine if a piece of jewelry is pre or post Summerset. I think this would be a useful feature to avoid scams and general confusion.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade2 -
SecretJoy✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno
Considering the fact that we will not be able to deconstruct jewelry from before the Summerset expansion. Will there be a way to determine if a piece of jewelry is pre or post Summerset. I think this would be a useful feature to avoid scams and general confusion.
I've been wondering that as well
Like, if I loot a ring the day before the Chapter hits, and then the exact same one the day after, how will I know they difference?
It'll be interesting to see how they work around that.Edited by SecretJoy on March 30, 2018 5:18PM0 -
sylviermoone✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno
Considering the fact that we will not be able to deconstruct jewelry from before the Summerset expansion. Will there be a way to determine if a piece of jewelry is pre or post Summerset. I think this would be a useful feature to avoid scams and general confusion.
I've been wondering that as well Like, if I loot a ring the day before the Chapter hits, and then the exact same one the day after, how will I know they difference?
It'll be interesting to see how they work around that.
They'll have different item numbers, much like when they changed BOE dungeon gear to BOP.Co-GM, Angry Unicorn Traders: PC/NA
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✭Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26347?Summerset-and-Update-18-Preview
Not stating my opinion, just letting people know. What do you think?
Kind of a *** move. I expected it would be like clockwork with a station there and some that might be bought for everyone to use in guild housing. Though I now have Summerset I am not a fan of locking a now basic crafting function behind the pay wall.I am mostly pleased with the current state of ESO. Please do continue to ban cheaters though and you guys have to find out who is duping gold and how because the economy is currently non-functional.1 -
Lykanus✭✭✭f047ys3v3n wrote: »Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26347?Summerset-and-Update-18-Preview
Not stating my opinion, just letting people know. What do you think?
Kind of a *** move. I expected it would be like clockwork with a station there and some that might be bought for everyone to use in guild housing. Though I now have Summerset I am not a fan of locking a now basic crafting function behind the pay wall.
Why do you assume its a basic crafting function? Its a new feature and honestly you will be able to get everything still like you do now, you can get your set juwels even if you dont even own Summerset by just letting it make a friend who owns- so its even an upgrade for you. Then your only problem is BoP Juwels you'd like to golden out-but if you're that deep into the game to golden your armor juwels its far away from any "basic" function like you say.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭f047ys3v3n wrote: »Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26347?Summerset-and-Update-18-Preview
Not stating my opinion, just letting people know. What do you think?
Kind of a *** move. I expected it would be like clockwork with a station there and some that might be bought for everyone to use in guild housing. Though I now have Summerset I am not a fan of locking a now basic crafting function behind the pay wall.
Why do you assume its a basic crafting function? Its a new feature and honestly you will be able to get everything still like you do now, you can get your set juwels even if you dont even own Summerset by just letting it make a friend who owns- so its even an upgrade for you. Then your only problem is BoP Juwels you'd like to golden out-but if you're that deep into the game to golden your armor juwels its far away from any "basic" function like you say.
Because it's going to work exactly like the other equipment crafting?
- You deconstruct items to level
- You can improve items you crafted or looted
- There will be 9 traits that you have to research in order to be able to craft items with those traits (and transmute them)
- You are going to be able to craft the exact same sets you can craft weapons and armor for now.
If it walks like a basic crafting function and quacks like a basic crafting function, it's a basic crafting function.The Moot Councillor2 -
sylviermoone✭✭✭✭✭f047ys3v3n wrote: »Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26347?Summerset-and-Update-18-Preview
Not stating my opinion, just letting people know. What do you think?
Kind of a *** move. I expected it would be like clockwork with a station there and some that might be bought for everyone to use in guild housing. Though I now have Summerset I am not a fan of locking a now basic crafting function behind the pay wall.
There is a very large difference. When you transmute an item, it becomes bound to your account. You can't transmute a piece of armor for your friend and trade it to them.
With jewel crafting, though, you can craft rings/necks for other players. Thus, people that don't want to purchase Summerset are still able to get crafted jewelry.
I don't see anything wrong with ZOS not allowing for the deconstruction of existing jewelry. Frankly, it's probably much easier to code a clean break between the old and new jewelry than it is to go back and add materials codes or whatever they would need to do to make existing jewelry deconnable for materials.
I do hope that they're going to change the item names of the old jewelry to CLEARLY show that it can not be deconstructed, though.Co-GM, Angry Unicorn Traders: PC/NA
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GawdSB✭✭✭✭✭The thing about this is since before these chapters were even a thing we have been asking for Jewelry crafting. ZOS has known that this feature was needed and should have been a thing since the beginning but they held out on giving it to us for the purpose of using it to make us buy an expansion.
There's one good thing that'll come out of this and that's the crafters that do have this have something else they can sell.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Olupajmibanan wrote: »The only real question is jewelry improvement.
Allowing trial jewelry to be improved to golden seems to me extremely unfair and cheesy, discouraging players to do veteran trials. I had to work hard for my golden Master Architect jewelry and some random casual just completes normal HoF within 30 minutes and immediately improve his blue Master Architect jewelry to golden.
No offense, but if your newbie is clearing nHoF in 30 minutes, they're not a random casual. I've seen casuals burn hours in there on bosses.1 -
temjiu✭✭✭✭I come from an era where you paid for an MMO, then paid monthly to play it. This doesn't bug me a bit. Honestly, I think the whole f3p movement has given people unreasonable expectations, and it has also given companies a perception that they are free to charge up the whazoo for "non-essential" content (like charging the price of a whole character slot for one new outfit slot on ONE character. Jeez guys).
It creates a level of toxicity in MMO's that I simply don't want. bring back the sub, bring back the paid expansion, I'm all game. I could care less if JC is part of the expansion. I get that. I don't get the stupidly high cost of other game elements OUTSIDE of this concept. And to be honest, most of the blame for this lies on the shoulder of those who thing they should get everything for free.
Back in my day we called them freeloaders. And No, just because it's "like" other game elements (Blacksmithing), doesn't mean it "should" be a base part of the game. you could make the same argument with a dozen other things they have locked behind a DLC. and you could make the same arguments with any MMO that has an expansion. and Most MMO's do lock their expansion content behind...you know...buying the expansion.3 -
temjiu✭✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »
I'm not one to typically complain and I've always defended ZOS, but this is absolute BS. I spent master writs on housing coffers for the SOLE PURPOSE of storing my golden jewelry that I've been holding onto for YEARS. Punishing those that had the foresight to store their items is low. Moving forward, when a new DLC drops, you shouldn't be able to decon ANY gear that you acquired prior to the new DLC dropping.
I had considered this approach. And I've seen people selling gold jewelry like it's going out of style, I'm sure to try and capitalize on money before the Chapter hits and prices drop (since you can craft it at that point).
But I decided not to. Why? because I felt that it wasn't worth the risk, as I didn't know what they would decide to do with the system. I'm sorry that you chose the risk, But on the flip side, if your gamble had paid off, you would also have been ahead of everyone else in materials by a ton. Like someone else said, trying to predict events and take advantage of them is a risk. you chose to take that risk, so deal with the consequences.
On the note of the Decon...makes sense to me. Starting everyone off on the same level as regards to crafting materials. I'm pretty sure that material farming will be a hotbed the first few weeks...good luck getting to those nodes! Me personally, I'm going to just loot and steal a ton, and decon the new stuff I get. I'm not even going to bother with node farming until it quiets down a bit.
Also makes you wonder about if there will be intricate Jewelry. I bet the prices on that stuff will skyrocket for awhile as well. But I think making a cutoff for the decon is a smart move.0 -
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✭✭✭clocksstoppe wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »WTS Mechanical Acuity jewelry. 1m per.
I’ll sell it for 998,000g per - buy from me instead
If you were smart you would have also sold for 1m instead of ruining the price by undercutting
Just for that, I’m lowering it to 50,000g.1 -
waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26347?Summerset-and-Update-18-Preview
Not stating my opinion, just letting people know. What do you think?
Seems exactly the same as....
-Warden
-Imperial City crafting stations
-Orsinium (VSMA)
-Morrowind crafting stations
-CLockwork City crafting stations
--etc
It doesn't say to wear crafted items, it says to "craft/create"starkerealm wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »The only real question is jewelry improvement.
Allowing trial jewelry to be improved to golden seems to me extremely unfair and cheesy, discouraging players to do veteran trials. I had to work hard for my golden Master Architect jewelry and some random casual just completes normal HoF within 30 minutes and immediately improve his blue Master Architect jewelry to golden.
No offense, but if your newbie is clearing nHoF in 30 minutes, they're not a random casual. I've seen casuals burn hours in there on bosses.
Especially if that newbie is running nHoF often enough to get a complete set of MA jewelry. No one is lucky enough to get it all in one go.
Also, casuals don't farm Master Architect. BiS magblades do.Edited by waitwhat on April 2, 2018 6:02PMPS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
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✭✭I have spent thousands of gold and much time collecting jewelery. Are you kidding that we can't take it apart??!? Why didn't you say that right away? Why even do that? I have at least 85 pieces of jewelry now. Why penalize people who play your game and anticipate you making awesome decisions in the future and preparing accordingly?? I'm literally about to say screw it over this. All this is is a big FU to active players. Does anyone know if there a return policy on pre-orders? This is a really bad decision. Please change it!
85? Chump change.
I had 900+ rings/Necks stored on my account. <Multiple JCHoarder alts X5 and all my actual alts>. All but a few rings/necks were purchased from guild vendors. Green to purple with most being purple.
I sold it all and made 50K+ Gold back in just vendor value <not even guild trading it>.
Its not a big deal.0 -
Nic727✭✭✭✭I was surprise today when I saw that (I don't play a lot, so didn't think it was only for Summerset users).
I think it's a very strange decision since crafting tables are available everywhere.0 -
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✭I was surprise today when I saw that (I don't play a lot, so didn't think it was only for Summerset users).
I think it's a very strange decision since crafting tables are available everywhere.
*hits the thread Necromancer in the head with the shovel*
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