Is Eso the best mmorpg out?

dennissomb16_ESO

I like many things in ESO but at this point I am simply waiting for Camelot Unchained to release. I play ESO less now and have gone back to earlier games. Overall I think ESO is one of the better all around MMOs out there.

srfrogg23

Well, it’s the best for me, right now.

I like the combat and character customization systems (both skills and cosmetic). I like the voice acted NPCs and exploration. I like the way they did the dungeons, too. Having a normal and vet version was a good idea.

I have some minor gripes with the game, like the guild traders, the stalker NPCs, and not being able to completely opt out of the Justice System, but that’s not enough to prevent me from enjoying the rest of the game.

raj72616a

best casual mmorpg out there probably

the most relevant level cap (cp160) can be reached within a few month by casuals

best in slot equipments can be crafted and traded

guaranteed drop of set items from boss

easy for tanks and healers to pug dungeons, easy for dps to pug normal trial

guilds that are helpful and often offer to craft or bite for free

most players are willing to give away dungeon and trial set drops for free

overall it's quite a friendly casual environment if you stay away from cyrodiil and do not compete for leaderboard

and even cyrodiil isnt really that toxic in my brief time there

Vanya

I cannot witness the mention of Lord of the Rings Online. I've spent over 10,000 +hours within Arda and twas my favourite MMO in the Golden period, perhaps it shall always stay as one. The Visuals are stunning for 2007 year old game. The story content is top notch as well as Soundtrack which is Legendary and excellent amount of lore.

The solo friendly causal approach is incredible. I always keep coming back to Middle-Earth, the game's prime is long passed left in the Elder days, but do not be fooled.

The story content is divided in Epic Volume Books and they are heavenly to experience. The story can match any other MMO and sure is of the top quality.

If can get over /negate or embrace horrendous grind /Performance issues the beauty of Tolkien's Legendarium is unique. Lord of the rings Online has the special place in my heart. My username means Fair,Beautiful {Quenya} and even today I record and enjoy the magic!

People often forget many great points and focus specifically on negative. Lord of the Rings Online is the gigantic world which is worthy even if you to explore,read the lore and finish entire story-line. You cannot be disappointed.

The World Design,Soundtrack, Story,Festival,Classes,Lore. Exquisite. It's the immersion which lures you in. The latest update for instance is superb for now eleven year old game and we shall embrace the 11th Anniversary event.

The future of game is very bright at least from my point of observation.

On top of that the game is free to play and you might want to test it by yourself before subscribing. I did enormous amount of conent. If you wish to see the comprehensive and passionate collection for now do check Spoiler ~ and explore my channel.

Thanks kindly

Elsonso

seipher09 wrote: »

Guild Wars 2 - beautiful world, fast paced combat with great animations. Really fun story with instances. Great open world events. But once you beat the story there is nothing left but raids with a toxic community and grinding open world events thousands of times just to unlock a skin? That's the end game outside of of PvP how....exciting? Games great for one play through but that's all.

I liked the open world events. I was not really excited about the combat. The story never clicked with me.

In GW2, I felt that the story started out too slow and a force of will was required to continue on. If I have to work at it in order to continue on, I tend not to continue on. I have read some books that start off that way, and sometimes they go places, and other times, the author was lost in the woods. Because the writing in computer games tends to be rather shallow, even compared to short stories, game writers are more likely to be the latter. Lost.

What I like about Elder Scrolls stories, and ZOS has done well in keeping this, is that the story slaps you in the face pretty close to the start. You don't have to sit through a ton of mundane stuff to get at it. There is always something important sounding going on, and we know it.

That said, the Summerset introduction story (quest) was disappointing. I found myself thinking that it ended before it really hooked me. At the end of the one for Morrowind, I felt like I needed to continue. At the end of Summerset, my response was more "glad I could help, ring me if you need anything else."

seipher09 wrote: »

World of Warcraft - graphics are out dated but if you played it you know you get used to it fast and actually get used to it and kinda like it. The story in the game offers many quests and the dailies are great deals of fun. You finished the story, your dailies don't give you anything worth doing anything anymore so you go to toxic raids to level your gear. You rinse and repeat each time an update comes up. Nothing ever new or exciting.

You are correct that the graphics are easily overlooked. That said, the graphics are constantly noticed, too. You are never far from the realization that the buildings in Stormwind look like they came out of a 1980's cartoon.

What eventually led me away from World of Warcraft was ESO. WoW was a placeholder, I guess. The game world is huge, but the leveled zones make it very tiny. At max level, being in the low level zones is like being somewhere infested by mosquitoes. I was constantly swatting things that got too close to me. On top of that, the whole point of the game ended up being to grind up the gear, then transmogrify it so that it looked like some other gear.

I know there are people in ESO that grind gear by doing specific dungeons, trials, and arenas over and over until they can sleep through them. In an MMO, I consider grinding to be pretty much inevitable. I choose not to progress that far.

seipher09 wrote: »

Black desert - didn't play much, open world pvp killed the game extremely fast. Just a grind fest and that's about the entire game.

In my opinion, any game based entirely on open world PVP is going to be a niche game. If the game is good enough, those games will eventually be ruled by the elite players. New players know going in that they are just going to die to the elite players over and over. It is rather depressing and it takes a desire to try and become elite, and that makes it niche.

If the game is not good enough to retain elite players, that won't happen. Then again, the game isn't a good game, either.

Elder Scrolls Online was wise to limit PVP to Cyrodiil, duels, and Battlegrounds. This provides a means to do PVP without overwhelming the game with it.

Ojustaboo

Vanya wrote: »

I cannot witness the mention of Lord of the Rings Online. I've spent over 10,000 +hours within Arda and twas my favourite MMO in the Golden period, perhaps it shall always stay as one. The Visuals are stunning for 2007 year old game. The story content is top notch as well as Soundtrack which is Legendary and excellent amount of lore.

The solo friendly causal approach is incredible. I always keep coming back to Middle-Earth, the game's prime is long passed left in the Elder days, but do not be fooled.

The story content is divided in Epic Volume Books and they are heavenly to experience. The story can match any other MMO and sure is of the top quality.

If can get over /negate or embrace horrendous grind /Performance issues the beauty of Tolkien's Legendarium is unique. Lord of the rings Online has the special place in my heart. My username means Fair,Beautiful {Quenya} and even today I record and enjoy the magic!

People often forget many great points and focus specifically on negative. Lord of the Rings Online is the gigantic world which is worthy even if you to explore,read the lore and finish entire story-line. You cannot be disappointed.

The World Design,Soundtrack, Story,Festival,Classes,Lore. Exquisite. It's the immersion which lures you in. The latest update for instance is superb for now eleven year old game and we shall embrace the 11th Anniversary event.

The future of game is very bright at least from my point of observation.

On top of that the game is free to play and you might want to test it by yourself before subscribing. I did enormous amount of conent. If you wish to see the comprehensive and passionate collection for now do check Spoiler ~ and explore my channel.

Thanks kindly

Lotro was one of the best games ever, the raids on there were fantastic. All was great UNTIL it's management decided to concentrate on casual players only (and introduced micro-transactions in a big way), hence game play became dumbed down. That's the reason a LOT of people left within about 6 month period and it's the same reason that ultimately led to Turbine closing 10 US servers and 9 EU ones, leaving just 5 servers in each a couple of years ago. They also banned 100s of players from their official forums, almost anyone who complained or said negative things about the games direction ended up being banned during the period of unrest when loads left. in fact a unofficial forum site LotroCommunityvwas started for all those banned from the official site, and in its day, had a lot of members.

if I remember correctly, it was the Helms Deep expansion that caused the mass exodus

In my opinion this had a lot to do with Turbine offering life time memberships. Almost every person I played with before it went F2P had a lifetime membership, hence Turbine weren't getting enough money from subscriptions.

If you have any interest in Tolkens world then Lotro is well worth a stroll through the story lines but in my opinion it is no longer a good MMO, I still earn turbine points every month (I think) due to my life time membership and about once or twice a year I log in to revisit the world, but it sadly isn't the game it used to be.

That said, most of ESO is so easy now that if you enjoy the non vet/trial PVE side of ESO, then the current Lotro is probably bang on your level.

I left Lotro to go to SWTOR on its release. But soon got to end level and a the time there was little else to do hence went back to Lotro.

I left for ESO after trying ESO on the open beta and at last finding really challenging content. That was my main reason for switching. Unfortunately the challenging content has now been dumbed down to being able to do it pressing one button (mages and fighters quest line for example).

But of they cant please everyone

dannymcgr81b14_ESO

I played wow for many years and really enjoyed it but the new direction they are taking eliminates virtually everything I enjoy. It used to be "make an enjoyable game with lots of ways to play and players will stay with us". Now it seems to be "make everything take as long as possible and see how long players put up with it".

KiraTsukasa

ESO is good, but it's still got its problems. I would say that it's among the best MMOs, but not THE best.

Ilithyania

but thb, Story wize SWTOR beats ESO.

SWTOR has cinematic cut scenes, which makes your voiced character come to life. and 8 different separate class stories.

I dont feel that "connected" to my ESO characters.

Malthorne

Ilithyania wrote: »

but thb, Story wize SWTOR beats ESO.

SWTOR has cinematic cut scenes, which makes your voiced character come to life. and 8 different separate class stories.

I dont feel that "connected" to my ESO characters.

The Imperial Agent quest arc from SWTOR is the best story between the two games imo. Very creative with many subtle nuances. The way our voiced protagonist acts and is represented in the cut scenes really helps put it over the top.

With that said, i wouldn’t want to see a voiced player character in a modern Elder Scrolls game. It didn’t feel right in Fallout 4 and I imagine it would feel even more out of place in an ES game.

neverwalk

over 20,000 in achievement points means you love this game and can't stop.

Loves_guars

Ilithyania wrote: »

but thb, Story wize SWTOR beats ESO.

SWTOR has cinematic cut scenes, which makes your voiced character come to life. and 8 different separate class stories.

I dont feel that "connected" to my ESO characters.

True that. If eso had that kind of cinematics and your character could talk, it would be very different, and that's something that I always wanted, coming from SWTOR.

Still, as a game, SWTOR right now is in a pathetic state that only exist to take your money and put it in other games or executives pockets. ESO keeps adding content and listening to the players fixing important things like One Tamriel, jewel crafting, outfits, etc.

There no doubt ESO is the best MMO for me, not perfect, but the best. No much competition out there, the rest I tried lack so many things and felt so cheap.

Dysturbed

The individual storys in nights of the old republic were awesome. But over all right now I think ESO is the best all around one out.

Ilithyania

cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Ilithyania wrote: »

but thb, Story wize SWTOR beats ESO.

SWTOR has cinematic cut scenes, which makes your voiced character come to life. and 8 different separate class stories.

I dont feel that "connected" to my ESO characters.

True that. If eso had that kind of cinematics and your character could talk, it would be very different, and that's something that I always wanted, coming from SWTOR.

Still, as a game, SWTOR right now is in a pathetic state that only exist to take your money and put it in other games or executives pockets. ESO keeps adding content and listening to the players fixing important things like One Tamriel, jewel crafting, outfits, etc.

There no doubt ESO is the best MMO for me, not perfect, but the best. No much competition out there, the rest I tried lack so many things and felt so cheap.

agree! ESO is the MMO I keep getting back to. Alotta new content. and endless armor-sets combos

jerj6925

Honestly I don't understand how people rate this game as the best with it being as broken as it is. so I will say it seems to have the Destiny effect on its player base right now.

when destiny came out it was a shell of a game but everyone including my self stayed with it because there was this sense of how great it could be if the developers just did what they needed to do but Destiny didn't, they just made a lot of promises and never delivered.

Now ESO yes a very different game but right now the only content worth anything is the end game content (yes this is my opinion and all it is) but the game runs god awful and all the promises to fix it are just empty because they have not. Bethesda likes to pick on EA for the loot box garbage but at least EA can say well our games run just fine. lets look at DLC every release of DLC ends up breaking the game in a huge and in a lot of cases an unplayable way yet people will still Pre order... hear take my money now and I'm ok with you giving me some broken piece of garbage with the promise you will fix it. Why would they ever think they need to step up their game??? would you if you could get away with it like they continue to do?

Honestly I think gamers have been conditioned over time to simply except crappy service. Fan boys will defend this game as sadly they must not have much else going on in their lives, its the only thing I can think of. I have even talked with people who say this all they have right now so they are stuck with it???? seriously?

Me I'm only hanging around until my sub ends and then I'm out.

Ilithyania

jerj6925 wrote: »

Honestly I don't understand how people rate this game as the best with it being as broken as it is. so I will say it seems to have the Destiny effect on its player base right now.

when destiny came out it was a shell of a game but everyone including my self stayed with it because there was this sense of how great it could be if the developers just did what they needed to do but Destiny didn't, they just made a lot of promises and never delivered.

Now ESO yes a very different game but right now the only content worth anything is the end game content (yes this is my opinion and all it is) but the game runs god awful and all the promises to fix it are just empty because they have not. Bethesda likes to pick on EA for the loot box garbage but at least EA can say well our games run just fine. lets look at DLC every release of DLC ends up breaking the game in a huge and in a lot of cases an unplayable way yet people will still Pre order... hear take my money now and I'm ok with you giving me some broken piece of garbage with the promise you will fix it. Why would they ever think they need to step up their game??? would you if you could get away with it like they continue to do?

Honestly I think gamers have been conditioned over time to simply except crappy service. Fan boys will defend this game as sadly they must not have much else going on in their lives, its the only thing I can think of. I have even talked with people who say this all they have right now so they are stuck with it???? seriously?

Me I'm only hanging around until my sub ends and then I'm out.

plzz.. it aint that bad, stick to posting your nerf NBs and Sorc posts

Waffennacht

I can only think of about 4 titles that are MMOs for console

I started with Neverwinter, but it's boot n loot style made me hate it
Warframe I gave a go, didn't like that very much
There's a few titles I haven't tried, though they look cool I dunno how much fun I'd have in the long run.

It's really the PvP that keeps me hooked

Rohamad_Ali

Wouldn't be here if it wasn't . Best in medieval fantasy . There are some better made MMO's in sci-fi but they are not relevant because different settings .

rumple9

Op missed out Lotro. Yeh 11 years old now but it was a great game, fantastic combat, great raids, nice community. I still play it now occasionally

Arthur_Spoonfondle

I had very high hopes for this game, whilst playing in the Beta Weekends but, Zenimax have failed dismally to deliver the great game ESO could have been.

Now they want £30 for JUST one new zone, as the painfully slow and expensive, drip-feed of new content continues.

Blizzard will deliver a full-blown expansion, for £40 more this summer. More new content than Zenimax have released since ESO launch.

Saturn

By comparison ESO might be the best current MMO available, but that doesn't mean it's perfect by any stretch of the imagination. It has a lot of short-comings, and the biggest problem I see is the developers' refusal to learn from other MMOs' mistakes, which is why we have seen this consistently erratic development process. I would probably be playing WoW if it wasn't so horrible outdated and had such a disconnected gameplay style, since it gets a lot of core features right, or at least used to when I played it during WotLK.

ESO is lacking in all endgame departments, and is repeatedly catering to casual players, which alienates those who put in a lot of effort to become better. I think if there was a game that had the systems of WoW during WotLK, but with ESO's graphics (or something close to it) and Black Desert Online's combat, then it'd be the best thing ever. But it's easy to talk about something you'd like to play.

So yes, ESO might be the best MMO available right now, but that doesn't mean it's perfect or even close to perfect, it just means that the competition is really weak. We can only hope that other developers try to make a better product, so that ZOS is forced to try harder to give all their players what they want, or risk losing them to the competition.

Valkysas154

Gargath wrote: »

Guild Wars2 - what really made me finally quit was a boring skills mechanics, many useless skills, and a complete lack of the mounts with inability to be a real part of a guild without subscription. FTP model in GW2 from time when I was playing, was pure solo.
low movement speed
large areas to explore and lack of mounts
lack of guild communication without subscription
only 2 characters available
uninteresting story quests that I was forcing myself to do
limited access to best gears and skins
this all and other things made me quit fast after levelling single char to max and another to half
wanted to make a healer, but with the available skills and gears I couldn't be effective - in eso I can be much more.
What was really cool, the way in which the trading market worked, instant sales and money gain which allowed me to get the best (available for ftp account) gears just from harvesting, refining, selling nodes.

All i hear is crying that you did not get all of that for free with out paying 1 cent
go try and play eso with out paying 1 cent oh you cant even get to charector select...

Elsonso

jerj6925 wrote: »

Honestly I don't understand how people rate this game as the best with it being as broken as it is.

It is not all bad, and not every problem is equally important to everyone. The main negatives that I tell people about are:

1. Aggressive monetization. Not P2W, but it is possible to shell out cash like it is. Once on the cosmetics trail, this game can be very expensive to play.
2. Cyrodiil performance. Try it. If it lags out and is a problem, go elsewhere because ZOS is not going to fix it.
3. General functional bugs. Expect to be dropped. Expect long transition screens. Expect skills to simply stop working for a few seconds. Expect skills to not work correctly due to bugs.
4. Cosmetic bugs. Don't expect meshes and textures to look good when examined closely. Expect clipping. Expect NPCs that sit on air or lean against nothing. Expect a few floating rocks, trees, and structures.

If people can get past that, I think this is the best MMORPG out there right now. If they can't, then what the seek is elsewhere.


Edit: words are hard.

Avalon

Well, first issue I have with this poll, is that you sort of set up a premise and bias at the beginning, and used highly subjective descriptions that, at least in one case, is extremely underselling what the game is: FFXIV. Yeah, if you go in thinking it sucks, you will come out confirmed. But, if you actually gave it any form of fair chance, it is NOTHING like WoW, and thus cannot be a clone.

The entire class system is a prime example. You really don't need to ever have more than one character, since every character can eventually earn every class, every ability, etc, and you can change it on the fly. That is just the basic start of where the differences exist, and other than "There is magic, classes, it's fantasy based, you get quests, kill bad things" (which makes ESO a clone in that sense) there isn't much similar.

If FFXIV was on Xbox, sub or not, I'd play it over ESO.

Next, as we see changes to ESO occurring, your reasoning for why ESO is the best, is quickly changing to not be qualities in the game. For example, supposedly, the way the warden class is, is going to be the methodology for the other 4 classes (retroactively worked on) and any new classes in the future: There will be a skill line focused on each role: DPS, Tank, Healer. This means all of that character customization we are used to? Won't exist soon. You play a DPS NB? Well, then you will be focused on the assassination line, and some weapon type (which might become more focused as well, if you look at how destro staves have gone: one element good for single target, one for AoE, one for tanking, then Resto for healing).

Pretty soon, you will not see any differences, really, between any DPS, except which class they picked (which determines Spear, Assassination, Animals, Ardent Flame, or whatever the pick for Sorcs), and whether they chose DW or 2H for their melee bar, or went staves.

Customization is quickly becoming a non-quality of ESO, with the way the devs are going. Which leaves: Lore, Pretty World. Not sure if that will hold that much appeal for players.

Thogard

ESO is the worst MMORPG except for all the other ones.

ankhor8

I vote Yes, Definitely.

jerj6925

Ilithyania wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

Honestly I don't understand how people rate this game as the best with it being as broken as it is. so I will say it seems to have the Destiny effect on its player base right now.

when destiny came out it was a shell of a game but everyone including my self stayed with it because there was this sense of how great it could be if the developers just did what they needed to do but Destiny didn't, they just made a lot of promises and never delivered.

Now ESO yes a very different game but right now the only content worth anything is the end game content (yes this is my opinion and all it is) but the game runs god awful and all the promises to fix it are just empty because they have not. Bethesda likes to pick on EA for the loot box garbage but at least EA can say well our games run just fine. lets look at DLC every release of DLC ends up breaking the game in a huge and in a lot of cases an unplayable way yet people will still Pre order... hear take my money now and I'm ok with you giving me some broken piece of garbage with the promise you will fix it. Why would they ever think they need to step up their game??? would you if you could get away with it like they continue to do?

Honestly I think gamers have been conditioned over time to simply except crappy service. Fan boys will defend this game as sadly they must not have much else going on in their lives, its the only thing I can think of. I have even talked with people who say this all they have right now so they are stuck with it???? seriously?

Me I'm only hanging around until my sub ends and then I'm out.

plzz.. it aint that bad, stick to posting your nerf NBs and Sorc posts

LOL not that bad, the new DLC is not even out yet and people are pre-ordering and guess what??? its broke, folks not getting there new mount or access to the morrowind content (they are looking in to it though). And as for Nerf NB and Sorc posts I don't think I made one yet but I might, I know I posted how all I was killed by the other night was night blades and a few sorcs. be nice if there was more of a variety out there. Not that bad.. you need to share what ever your smoking.

jazsper77

Warframe - Trumps everything in ESO. I'm a founder there and have been w ESO since Beta.
From balance to community to customer service it's tops it by miles.

Sixsixsix161

After playing WoW for over 14 years (at times 80 hours per week while working a 40 hour schedule lol), I finally quit last year, fed up by the constant gating of items/professions/etc., behind raids, which started in WoD, continued into Legion, and getting worse in the next expansion (I don't raid, medical issues). Also, the D3 team came out several years ago, making it clear that solo players were not going to do well in that game, and that has transferred also to the WoW team. A game that was great for solo players slowly but surely is forcing players to play together, whether you like it or not.

I love ESO (and Skyrim, heads up: Skyrim is being re-released after being updated/changed for a VR version).

I also play some Rift, but not much, too much of a WoW clone, and much smaller.

I recently started to play Path of Exile (PoE), and really like it. Very unusual game - the gaming is the same, hunt, kill things, get loot - but the setup of how you get skills (active via gems, passive via points), and there are almost 1200 passive skills for each different character) keeps you going for a long time.

By the comments I see here, I guess I need to try Final Fantasy 14 - as long as it can be played solo.

So, I'm bouncing back and forth between ESO and PoE - which is by design. In recent years I've started to play two different games so as not to lose interest - I really did grind/farming in WoW, and I cannot do that anymore. Way too much of that over the years.

But, I'll always play ESO.

Viscous119

Well, the best PvE MMO for me was EQ1 and EQ2. Those games were complicated and had harsh penalties if you messed up you lost everything you had. Going into Hate and Fear planes made people very cautious, since a wipe meant starting all over. If you didn't your body back get within 48hrs, you lost everything you owned. We learned the hard way in EQ that caution was the primary thought when trying to explore new areas and expansions. I liked the way the world was made and the characters looked more realistic than Ultima online.

I agree that WoW is the elephant in the room, but their subs are declining, particularly with this expansion where the cartoony look is being enforced and all artifact weapons are being destroyed even though players want to keep them. Essentially, WoW wipes the slate clean every expansion and makes you go thru ALL the content before you can move forward. So much effort put forward...only to lose it all again.

The reason I like ESO more than WoW is because of the ESO world, character looks, and overworld experiences. If I could only wish that ESO would create underwater content for players.