ESO Class Representative Program

QuebraRegra

This reminds me of TURBINE's failings with the LOTRO "Players Council".. seem familiar at all?

*shakes head*

https://www.mmobomb.com/news/ex-lotro-dev-dishes-turbines-missteps/

QuebraRegra

who can speak for the NB's in regards to the direction ZOS is going with the HEMORRHAGE heal nerf?



how does one summon this sentient? @gilliamtherogue

Im_MegaDeath

I applied for stam dk with a short message why and didn't use correct grammar or MLA format @ZOS_RichLambert

the_Beard

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this more aimed at PvE, PvP, or a mixture of both? Certain classes are in a great spot in one, the other, or both, and many PvP players don't have a good grasp on end-game PvE mechanics, and vice versa. If its aimed at both, would it be possible to have a representative for both parts of the game for each of the classes?

HeroOfNone

I applaud this effort but worry if it's the "best of the best" are we going to see something that benefits everyone that plays a class or just something that benefits endgame players. There seems to be a constant tug of war with casuals and hard core players on how beneficial attack weaving should be, where should the best gear come from, and what should counter what in PVP.

QuebraRegra

sirinsidiator wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno While I do welcome some open discussion, I feel that one point needs some clarification. Should these representatives just collect and compile the concerns of the community posted here on the forum or via other channels and discuss these with the devs so you don't have to read every single post, or is this an invite for people with in-depth knowledge to bring up points they think are an issue with that class?

If it is the first, I have to say that's actually a bit lazy and insincere since that should be a job for someone working at ZOS and not for unpaid volunteers, if it's the latter, it might easily turn out to be a bad idea since every one of them will have their own agenda and they likely won't provide objective feedback. In either case it could easily happen that a huge part of the player base and play styles gets underrepresented - especially since people with in-depth knowledge don't think or play like more casual players which should make up the larger part of the community.

Maybe it would be better to instead start using some platform like uservoice so everyone can participate and you can easily keep track of what's been requested?

I'm ready to see WROBEL step aside.... now... Like before any more damage is done....

Drdeath20

This is amazing. Thank you ZoS. I know i have become disgruntled but that is only bcz this game has soo much potential.

I just hope these guys take into account that every class cannot have it all

Woeler

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We’re excited to announce a new initiative we’ll be spinning up over the next couple months and would like your help! We’re looking for about 10 players to fill the role of an ESO Class Representative.

The selected players should have a deep understanding of at least one class, with extensive knowledge involving abilities, itemization, solo and group play in both PvE and PvP scenarios. Representatives will be asked to work together to compile a list of the top concerns and bugs for each class, and present these notes to members of the ESO Development Team on a quarterly basis. Note that we’re not looking for general class suggestions or ideas at this time; our focus will specifically be on some of the current pain points.

After these meetings are held, we’ll provide a summary of what was discussed so everyone in the community has visibility.

The goal of this program is to make sure we’re focusing on what’s important to YOU, and work together to ensure we’re taking your main concerns into consideration for future updates. This doesn’t mean every piece of feedback will be acted upon, but this will ensure your voice is being heard.

If you’d like to nominate one of your fellow players – or even yourself – for consideration of this role, please email us at community@elderscrollsonline.com by April 8 with the name, the class (or classes) your nomination specializes in, and a short reason why. The ESO Development and Community Teams will ultimately make the final decision on our final group of representatives.

Please let us know if you have any questions, and thanks!

I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly. Does this mean you are looking for 10 players in total (i.e. 2 players per class) or does this mean you are looking for 10 players per class?

QuebraRegra

the_Beard wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this more aimed at PvE, PvP, or a mixture of both? Certain classes are in a great spot in one, the other, or both, and many PvP players don't have a good grasp on end-game PvE mechanics, and vice versa. If its aimed at both, would it be possible to have a representative for both parts of the game for each of the classes?

again this brings to mind that balancing for PVE and PVP should be done separately. This is already being done in a few minor ways, its time to accept it and go all in. No more PVP nerfs defiling PVE play.

QuebraRegra

Apherius wrote: »

I wonder if we can talk about " useless morph and skill ", i mean ... it's a concern, and we don't even need to give suggestions or ideas about this.

Something like " Crystal blast is useless because .... ".

don't stop there... get on some of that useless gear and tweak it to be useful, not just polluting the RNG.

and then that RNG...

ecru

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

This just shows how little the combat designers know.

It's also a bad idea."The selected players should have a deep understanding of at least one class". No, that should be all classes, and that should be the devs.

There will always be players who have a better a more nuanced understanding of how a class actually plays than a dev. I was that player in Rift for the Cleric class and feedback from myself and others like me lead to a lot of changes and bug fixes that probably wouldn't have happened otherwise. Don't underestimate the importance of certain individual players' feedback--devs can't spend hours parsing, raiding, pvping, etc etc with every single class, but players can.

This also gives players an avenue of communication to devs by communicating with the player chosen to provide feedback.

Kel

I nominate
Xynode
Xynode
Xynode
Xynode
Xynode
And....Xynode.

Liofa

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Ragnarock41 wrote: »

This is a good but a little late move ZOS.

I would like to apply myself, but I'm afraid my personality is venomous at best and I am known to have a bias favoring stamDks

So please, if there are any other stamDK mains left, do apply, and make sure the class isn't garbage for yet another year.

also @Liofa , I think you might want to take a look at this.

Thanks for the mention ^^

My honest opinion here . I can represent every class in terms of PvE tanking but it is not going to work this way . One person simply cannot represent a class as a whole . Even ten people cannot represent a class all together . Limited amount of people will have limited amount of experience . Yes , you can take the people you think the most experienced but there still will be flaws .

If I have to be more clear . Let's say I was chosen to be the DK representetive . I am quite confident as a PvE Tank player to give proper and valuable feedback and bug reports on DK PvE Tank but I won't be able to give proper feedback on other aspects of the game as a DK . Yes , I do PvP , I know how to play DK DPS builds and such but I am nowhere near as experienced as dedicated DD players . A master DK PvE DPS player will not be able to give proper feedback like a dedicated PvP player can do . It just won't be the same between the two . Simply not possible . I hope I could make a point . So my question is that how many players are you thinking about choosing to represent a class ? Are you really going to choose a single player or is it going to be more for each class ?

Looking forward to an answer

I see your point. Its a shame ZOS only wants 10 players for this, but I still think you are the one when it comes to pve tanking and pve Dk. As for PvP stamDK I just don't know how they can make the class any worse so in a sense I'm not too worried about it, I think the issues about the class is clear as day and you probably can see it too.

10 players probably means 1 for each spec, but does that mean 1 for pve 1 for pvp , or 1 for mag , 1 for stam, I do not know.

Either way it won't work I think . If they are splitting for Magicka and Stamina , who is going to cover Healing and Tanking ? If they are splitting for PvP and PvE , who can have all the information about all roles and builds ? It just won't work ... Maybe they meant 10 per class ? Well , at least I hope they did ^^

Minno

Rickter wrote: »

I second these nominations

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NyassaV wrote: »

For nightblade Gilliam and @NightbladeMechanics would be good choices. Both these players know a lot about other classes too as well as the base game.

@stileanima has done some awesome stuff with Warden in PvE and I've seen her do stamplar as well!

@GandTheImpaler and @BagOfTatoes (not sure if Tatoes has a forum account) would be great for sorc in a PvP sense but as for PvE I'm not sure who to recommend. I've seen @Inigo play a sorc successfully and he has knowledge of the game and it's mechanics so he would be a good choice.

For Stam DK I can only think of @Highpolicy and for magic DK @Quantum_V comes to mind but there may be someone else

Mag Templar has been left in the dust so much IDK who to mention for that.

I've got enough free time on my hands to help and give suggestions and would love to give my own feedback but I don't see why anyone would pick me for anything while Gilliam still lives. I've seldom heard of more constructive and unbiased feedback than from him.

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technohic wrote: »

For as long as theres been Templars; there has seemed to be @Joy_Division for information and none that do as much work as @Cinbri in every test cycle. Just lets not forget about Stamplar as I think they are both mainly magicka there.

Agreed as well

Elong

@NobleGuardian for Magplar. He knows his stuff, decent fella, and very adept at both pvp and pve.

DisgracefulMind

Really excited for this! I'm really hoping that some excellent Templar players are selected. The class needs SO much help.

Junipus

I nominate everyone who posts in the Bugs section and no-one that posts NERF PLZ threads.

Lord_Zele

I vote @caeliusstarbreaker For Stamplar.
and @Irylia for Magsorc.
EZ

Drdeath20

Its simple. If people want to do it, go make an indepth writeup like joy_division did about magplars but for their respected class. Earn your spot.

I seriously hope its not 10 for each class.

C0L0SSUS

Well ...
Joy_division,Masel92,Dpencil1,Gilliamtherogue plus Asayre Alcast etc.

Yirmeyahu

I'll be submitting my mail in a bit. But, I would think if Asayre & Gilliamtherogue have any interest, they would be obvious choices. I will also be nominating myself because #YahuKnows.

Gilvoth

this should be a public vote.

GeneralSezme

Vote for me I do not take money from #big

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Really excited for this! I'm really hoping that some excellent Templar players are selected. The class needs SO much help.

I agree blazing shield needs buff

the_Beard

Bring back viable light attack rotations on other classes besides magblade, without running out of magicka in 30-60 seconds, whilst still not suffering a dps loss.

Lexxypwns

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Its simple. If people want to do it, go make an indepth writeup like joy_division did about magplars but for their respected class. Earn your spot.

I seriously hope its not 10 for each class.

And what if your main class, the one you’d be most comfortable advising, only needs some minor nerfs+some QoL improvements in its current state?

Should someone write up a 5000 word forum post saying Mageblade is mostly fine but will need changes based on decisions with other classes?

Iamth3wa1rus09

@ZOS_GinaBruno I would like to represent Magicka Dragonknight, if the masses wouldn't mind. I've played for a very long time and know the class very well.

ak_pvp

I can't see how this could go badly... Allow 10 people from the forums to make the decision for many. Why don't you just listen to the feedback given in PTS.

MagDK. Played since beta. Love me. I vote we Nerf everything to level of DK. That is how balance works. Nerf NB and warden so DK will be interresting, worked with foss and stonefist. Side note, from what I see quantum/kiladros know quite well.

DKsUnite

I don't know if 10 people is enough considering that people who play pve/pvp at a high level for all specs (tank/DD/healer and Mag/Stam) for all types (solo/duo/small group/medium group/large group) don't exist.

zParallaxz

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

This is a good but a little late move ZOS.

I would like to apply myself, but I'm afraid my personality is venomous at best and I am known to have a bias favoring stamDks

So please, if there are any other stamDK mains left, do apply, and make sure the class isn't garbage for yet another year.

also @Liofa , I think you might want to take a look at this.

I would nominate myself since I’ve played stamdk from launch and switched permanently to magdk during dark brotherhood so I know both specs. However I have not full divulged into pve except when I want gear for pvp such dlc dungeons and a couple vet trials like vdsa. What do u think?

WillhelmBlack

QuebraRegra wrote: »

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sirinsidiator wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno While I do welcome some open discussion, I feel that one point needs some clarification. Should these representatives just collect and compile the concerns of the community posted here on the forum or via other channels and discuss these with the devs so you don't have to read every single post, or is this an invite for people with in-depth knowledge to bring up points they think are an issue with that class?

If it is the first, I have to say that's actually a bit lazy and insincere since that should be a job for someone working at ZOS and not for unpaid volunteers, if it's the latter, it might easily turn out to be a bad idea since every one of them will have their own agenda and they likely won't provide objective feedback. In either case it could easily happen that a huge part of the player base and play styles gets underrepresented - especially since people with in-depth knowledge don't think or play like more casual players which should make up the larger part of the community.

Maybe it would be better to instead start using some platform like uservoice so everyone can participate and you can easily keep track of what's been requested?

I'm ready to see WROBEL step aside.... now... Like before any more damage is done....

I'm pretty sure he's been making pretty frocks for the Crown Store. Like all the ZOS dev's plan on doing when the players are left to do the game's combat and balancing.