Could we have the option to change the date format to DD/MM/YYYY and YYYY/MM/DD?

Greensea

In the Achievements tab dates are listed as MM/DD/YYYY which isn't a widely used format, and I can't seem to find an option in settings to change it to DD/MM/YYYY. Would it be possible to have something like this, and YYYY/MM/DD added as options given that they see far more usage? It would be a small, but appreciated, QoL change for those of us who don't live in the States.

Danikat

I agree. Either of those would be much easier to read for me (and IMO more sensible). As far as I know month-day-year is only used in the USA and while I realise this is an American game it looks extremely weird for those of us in the rest of the world so it would be nice to have other options.

ArchMikem

...y'know, as an American the reality of it all bothers me. Since I'm an American all these things are completely normal to me, even if I'm the actual oddball of the world. Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, Feet instead of Meters. Soccer instead of Football.

Even something as trivial as writing the date. Putting the Month first is just second nature even when EVERYONE else does it another way. Damn it America why couldn't you just conform already??

danno8

I always thought it should be listed the way you say it.

I say "January fifteenth, 2018", so to me it should be written as "01/15/2018". To me that just makes sense regardless of whatever you are used to.

But I am always for more options for those who prefer it otherwise.

Qyrk

danno8 wrote: »

I always thought it should be listed the way you say it.

I say "January fifteenth, 2018", so to me it should be written as "01/15/2018". To me that just makes sense regardless of whatever you are used to.

But I am always for more options for those who prefer it otherwise.

Many parts of the world say 'fifteenth of Jan/January'.........even my part of the world

Ackwalan

ArchMikem wrote: »

...y'know, as an American the reality of it all bothers me. Since I'm an American all these things are completely normal to me, even if I'm the actual oddball of the world. Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, Feet instead of Meters. Soccer instead of Football.

Even something as trivial as writing the date. Putting the Month first is just second nature even when EVERYONE else does it another way. Damn it America why couldn't you just conform already??

We don't bend the knee here.

Nic727

USA is always alone... Imperial system, wrong date format, etc.

Agree that date format in the date should be DD/MM/YY since it's the most used in the world.

Liofa

Ackwalan wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

...y'know, as an American the reality of it all bothers me. Since I'm an American all these things are completely normal to me, even if I'm the actual oddball of the world. Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, Feet instead of Meters. Soccer instead of Football.

Even something as trivial as writing the date. Putting the Month first is just second nature even when EVERYONE else does it another way. Damn it America why couldn't you just conform already??

We don't bend the knee here.

This is probably the funniest comment I seen in ESO forums ^^

About the topic , just add an option and make the DD/MM/YYYY default for EU server . Done . Everyone is happy !

Runefang

ArchMikem wrote: »

...y'know, as an American the reality of it all bothers me. Since I'm an American all these things are completely normal to me, even if I'm the actual oddball of the world. Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, Feet instead of Meters. Soccer instead of Football.

Even something as trivial as writing the date. Putting the Month first is just second nature even when EVERYONE else does it another way. Damn it America why couldn't you just conform already??

As an Aussie I feel this way about the side of the road we drive on. I'm sure our cars would be cheaper if we matched the majority of the world.

Glaiceana

Would be nice to have the option, but I am not too bothered by it right now haha

The_Smilemeister

As an Englishman who's more comfortable with Imperial measurements, with previous games measuring in Imperial, and with all the characters in ESO using Imperial units when talking, why is there no option to change from the arbitrary Metric system to the logical and always handy Imperial system?

It would be nice to have the option to change date and units of measurement formats to what is commonly used throughout the regions we inhabit, but given the issues this games already has I doubt this will be high on their list.

danno8

Lol this thread is hilarious.

People getting genuinely offended that other parts of the world use different date formats.

There is no right or wrong here, only what you are used to. I personally couldn't care less as long as it is clear which format is used. I think people should try to be more flexible in their thinking.

Incredible that date formats can lead to the kind of tribalism in this thread.

MattT1988

danno8 wrote: »

Lol this thread is hilarious.

People getting genuinely offended that other parts of the world use different date formats.

There is no right or wrong here, only what you are used to. I personally couldn't care less as long as it is clear which format is used. I think people should try to be more flexible in their thinking.

Incredible that date formats can lead to the kind of tribalism in this thread.

I don’t see anyone who’s offended.

menedhyn

The current MM/DD/YY format causes me no problems. More important things in life...

Asmael

Actually, I'd like to see the chinese format become widespread, which iz: YYYYMMDD. It has the property of being very easy to compare 2 dates and see which one is more recent. That might sound like a silly problem, but in terms of programming, you can simply convert 2 dates of this format to their integer equivalents and compare those right away with no need for librairies, breaking apart each part of the date and whatnot. 15th of January 1975 would result in 19750115, and 29th of March 1978 would result in 19780329. The latter is a bigger number, thus happened later than the former.

It's pretty unlikely tho, as most of the world is currently using the DMY format.

tommalmm

To be honest, I always had issues with that. As long as the day part is greater than 12, it's fine. But whenever I see 11/09/2017 or something like that, I'm never sure whether it refers to september or november (especially if the game has been produced by an American company, because my experience is that it will either use my system settings or the hardcoded American system). If the date format is clearly stated, either way is fine. The problem is uncertainty.

BTW. ANSI (American National Standards Institute) date format is the same as ISO 8601 (ANSI is a member of ISO!), so at least in international communication, the YYYY-MM-DD should be used.

mirta000b16_ESO

YYYY-MM-DD is the best date system for programming databases. DD-MM-YYYY is the widespread format in Europe. I would be good with either as they're much easier to read than MM-DD-YYYY.

ZOS_Mika

We have removed several off topic and insulting comments from this thread. Please keep this discussion constructive and respectful.

Nic727

tommalmm wrote: »

To be honest, I always had issues with that. As long as the day part is greater than 12, it's fine. But whenever I see 11/09/2017 or something like that, I'm never sure whether it refers to september or november (especially if the game has been produced by an American company, because my experience is that it will either use my system settings or the hardcoded American system). If the date format is clearly stated, either way is fine. The problem is uncertainty.

BTW. ANSI (American National Standards Institute) date format is the same as ISO 8601 (ANSI is a member of ISO!), so at least in international communication, the YYYY-MM-DD should be used.

Same for me lol.

Bananko

ArchMikem wrote: »

Soccer instead of Football.

At least many of us Americans both play and follow soccer nowadays, moreso than several decades ago.

Spacemonkey

seriously......

why? How does the date on an achievement manage to upset people??????? Why are we even talking about this?
If anything, ZOS should write the date in w/e format they want, using ES Lore (loredas, fridas, heartfire, etc...)


Baffled. BAFFLED.

Mgghool

Just ask yourself does format MMDDYYYY makes any sense? No it does not. Please change to DDMMYYYY.

Zerok

Asmael wrote: »

Actually, I'd like to see the chinese format become widespread, which iz: YYYYMMDD. It has the property of being very easy to compare 2 dates and see which one is more recent. That might sound like a silly problem, but in terms of programming, you can simply convert 2 dates of this format to their integer equivalents and compare those right away with no need for librairies, breaking apart each part of the date and whatnot. 15th of January 1975 would result in 19750115, and 29th of March 1978 would result in 19780329. The latter is a bigger number, thus happened later than the former.

It's pretty unlikely tho, as most of the world is currently using the DMY format.

I agree. Although everyone is using the DDMMYYYY format, the YYYYMMDD format is more logical.

MMDDYYYY makes no sense but ZOS is a US firm so they have to cater to their US customers (which I assume are the majority of players).

Tan9oSuccka

Murica!

Kidding. I didn’t really think this would be an issue..but here we are!

Alpheu5

What sort of nonsensical dribble do you have to spew to have a mod remove your comment on a post about date formatting?

Mgghool wrote: »

Just ask yourself does format MMDDYYYY makes any sense? No it does not. Please change to DDMMYYYY.

It's a cultural thing and makes sense if it was all you were exposed to since birth, just like how some cultures count numbers on their fingers differently.

Rouven

Hehe. I like the chinese format as well, will just have to get used to living in 4715.

Ah, otherwise I always thought smallest to largest increment makes sense from a personal perspective, but we often used YYYYMMDD at work as well and I do it for my own excel sorting purposes.

GoodFella146

Asmael wrote: »

Actually, I'd like to see the chinese format become widespread, which iz: YYYYMMDD. It has the property of being very easy to compare 2 dates and see which one is more recent. That might sound like a silly problem, but in terms of programming, you can simply convert 2 dates of this format to their integer equivalents and compare those right away with no need for librairies, breaking apart each part of the date and whatnot. 15th of January 1975 would result in 19750115, and 29th of March 1978 would result in 19780329. The latter is a bigger number, thus happened later than the former.

It's pretty unlikely tho, as most of the world is currently using the DMY format.

You know what, that is the best format I've seen yet. The world should absolutely conform to one standard system. I think eventually we will once we all start working together to explore our solar system and what not but at some point we need to get this done for the long term health of the world's society as a whole. Fortunately the internet is able to bring people together in lots of ways.

Apherius

just turn your game in french , enjoy.

Oberick

Zerok wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Actually, I'd like to see the chinese format become widespread, which iz: YYYYMMDD. It has the property of being very easy to compare 2 dates and see which one is more recent. That might sound like a silly problem, but in terms of programming, you can simply convert 2 dates of this format to their integer equivalents and compare those right away with no need for librairies, breaking apart each part of the date and whatnot. 15th of January 1975 would result in 19750115, and 29th of March 1978 would result in 19780329. The latter is a bigger number, thus happened later than the former.

It's pretty unlikely tho, as most of the world is currently using the DMY format.

I agree. Although everyone is using the DDMMYYYY format, the YYYYMMDD format is more logical.

MMDDYYYY makes no sense but ZOS is a US firm so they have to cater to their US customers (which I assume are the majority of players).

Month day year makes sense as it uses the numbers arranged from smallest to largest, there can only ever be 12 months, while the days can go up to 31, and years are basically infinite. You don't read the time as seconds,minutes, hours do you?

code65536

Mgghool wrote: »

Just ask yourself does format MMDDYYYY makes any sense? No it does not. Please change to DDMMYYYY.

That is just as bad.

The one true date format is YYYYMMDD. Big-endian. Like how humans handle all numbers.

Mgghool

code65536 wrote: »

Mgghool wrote: »

Just ask yourself does format MMDDYYYY makes any sense? No it does not. Please change to DDMMYYYY.

That is just as bad.

The one true date format is YYYYMMDD. Big-endian. Like how humans handle all numbers.

YYYYMMDD is also acceptable. A.