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Loss of sound when large battle happens in Cyro

  • GrimJaw
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    It happens in 4 player dungeons as well. No lag, no missing visual effects. Leaving combat does not help. Only when everything has "died down" will sound return.
  • gabriebe
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    ZOS, play your own game, it has happened to litterally everyone I know in the game, not sure why we need to provide examples.
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  • maboleth
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    1. Press L to go to "Alliance war", then click on the crossed sword icon.
    2. Choose your campaign.
    3. One is your home, one is your "guest"
    4. Once in Cyrodiil you are in the PVP zone. Take care.
    5. Fight a bit.
    6. Notice there's no sound.

    Devs, do note that you can NOT use Cyrodiil wayshrines to go out of the Cyro. You have to get back to your base and then take a wayshrine out. Many newcomers make that mistake, it's a common and no big deal.
    Edited by maboleth on November 6, 2017 12:27AM
  • Flake
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    The performance recently has been absolute [snip]. Seriously how backwards can ZOS go? i mean the delays and lack of sound is [snip] atrocious.

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 8, 2017 8:35PM
  • MissBizz
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    GrimJaw wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    It happens in 4 player dungeons as well. No lag, no missing visual effects. Leaving combat does not help. Only when everything has "died down" will sound return.

    I do not experience in trials or dungeons. I did experience in Cyrodiil during large battles. At Alessia bridge, keep fights etc. Once battle "died down" sound returned. Lag/fps/ping are all normal as per for large PvP fights.
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  • maxjapank
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    1) large fights, usually 50+
    2) anywhere
    3) no other performance issues. Sometimes game music cuts out, only combat sound. Sometimes combat sound cuts out,
    only game music. Sometimes both combat sound and game music cut out.
    4) After leaving combat, sound does eventually return.
  • fred4
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    I have not experienced this lately, but I mostly avoid large scale battles and retreat to IC anyway. This is one of the reasons. I have not had a complete loss of sound that I can remember, but I have not always been able to hear my abilities in large battles in the past. Not hearing whether my skills have activated and/or connected with the enemy is a suprisingly big issue for me.
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  • LarsS
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    As I understand it from my guildmembers all loose sound when there is a bigger fight, lets say some 30+ around.
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  • mitchtheelder
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    1/ like around 25-30 people
    2/ every area where there are around 25-30 people in fight
    3/ cant cast ulti particularly, and other skills as well and strong lag
    4/after i leave the area or ppl are dead sound comes back and i can use all abilities but what i do often is just run far away from fight

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  • Carpe-Veritatem
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    I'm not sure about the rest of you folks, but when the sound suddenly cuts out it's horribly disorienting for me and greatly impacts my ability to fight. I was unaware of just how much environmental impact sounds have in the game. I died to oils in a keep the other day at least partly because I heard no splashing and failed to notice the visual effect during the lag of a massive battle. Yeah...it was also due to my inattention but I clearly benefit greatly from sound as well as visual cues.

    Really hoping ZOS can fix this soon. I'm also hoping this isn't a deliberate ZOS experiment to see whether cutting sound during massive battles is an easy fix for reducing lag. Sometimes "easy" is just not the right thing to do...
  • Sarousse
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    @ZOS_CaseyCoffman

    Patch notes 3.2.8... Still no fix.

    How many weeks are we going to play without any sounds ?

    Thanks.
  • Zaldan
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    any update @ZOS_CaseyCoffman another patch and things just keep getting worse
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  • RMerlin
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    This should be considered a high priority issue, it`s not just cosmetic - doing PvP without being able to hear when someone is starting to attack you is pretty annoying. Audio cues are important for instance when using a siege and you can't see behind you.
  • smorejohn
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    This makes the experience horrible. We need more urgency put into Cyrodiil issues. FPS and Sound issues when in big battles. Imagine how fun it would be to battle at 60fps with hundreds of players in the same area. We can dream i guess.......
  • Zaldan
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    So no update then @ZOS_CaseyCoffman ?
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?
    Still happening as of a couple days ago:
    1. 20+ but has to be in combat. Large groups simply staging don't cause sound loss.
    2. Everywhere. Keeps, resouces, overland. Quantity seems to be the deciding factor.
    3. No other known issues. Everything else seems to work normally, though it's harder to tell without the audible feedback, tbh.
    4. It seems leaving combat it will eventually come back, eventually. Sometimes you'll get partial sound return by putting some distance between yourself and the current battle (even if it's over). For instance, I've had some of my own casting effects be audible while still having complete or near complete silence from surrounding sources.

    It's almost as if they sound processor has so many streams incoming that is can't pick just one (or 20), so it opts on none at all.

    Edited by Merlin13KAGL on November 7, 2017 12:21PM
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  • Zaldan
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    WTB sound or failing that an update
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  • Feanor
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    Yesterday I had game music but no combat sound whatsoever in Cyrodiil. Game never ceases to surprise.
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  • jcreinke
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    My guild has had some where we do not even have to battle, we just attempt to take a keep and boom, no more sound! Doesn't bother me but then again I'm used to not hearing anything.
  • Drakkdjinn
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    gabriebe wrote: »
    ZOS, play your own game, it has happened to litterally everyone I know in the game, not sure why we need to provide examples.

    Because in asking it gives the community the illusion that its being examined/debugged. They're well aware.
  • Tyvarra
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    And again no one from ZOS speaks about this issue.

    Are you close to a solution? Do you have a fix ready? When will the fix come?

    Common guys we dont like being kept in the dark. And its annoying as hell when you have to fight with no sound. Its GAMEBREAKING!

    How many weeks since CWC came out? How many weeks we have to wait for a fix? I'm sorry I mean how many month? or even years??
    Please fix the game!
  • chaz
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    Hello, I searched the forums and only found this one thread.


    Zenimax people, bethesda or what ever, the total lack of sound when large battles and very distracting. I can't hear if I'm getting hit and or about to die.

    This not only happens in Cyrodiil, but also in trials with large groups of people and enemy monsters.

    Please, ever since you uploaded clockwork city this has been an issue.

    Don't you guys even know about it?

    Do any of you even play this game? No one ever, anywhere, ever see's a GM with their [Z] account playing with us. I suggest you group up with 12 zenimax employees and run nSO, then be sure to pull a lot of monsters in one corner. Then you'll see the sound will cut right out.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Hey folks,

    I have a few questions for those of you experiencing this problem:

    1) Roughly how many combatants are in the fight when you experience this? 5? 10? 50? 100?
    2) In which areas do you experience this problem? Just in keeps, resource points, or bridge choke points? Or anywhere there seem to be enough people fighting?
    3) What other performance issues do you note occurring, if any, while this happens? IE does the game also lag, do you notice any missing visual effects, etc?
    4) After leaving combat does your audio return to normal? If not, what sounds seem to not return as you would expect?

    It's cool and all to get a response to this issue, but I'm worried nevertheless. We had this exact same bug before. Also ... shouldn't some of the folks at the office be able to communicate these answers? This isn't exact difficult to reproduce; just log into Vivek and in 5 minutes there won;t be any sound.
  • Elong
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    Happening even just logging into Mournhold now.

    Unacceptable!
  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Elong wrote: »
    Happening even just logging into Mournhold now.

    Unacceptable!

    It's ruining my immersion.
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  • coplannb16_ESO
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Yesterday I had game music but no combat sound whatsoever in Cyrodiil. Game never ceases to surprise.

    same
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  • Feanor
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    Maybe most bugs in Cyrodiil don’t show if you’re plugged into the game server with a 2m Ethernet cable...
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    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Zaldan
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    Another patch and still no fix :(
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  • frozywozy
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    Edited by frozywozy on November 13, 2017 1:35PM
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  • Reverb
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    1zafvd.jpg

    I was thinking the same thing. Literally no acknowledgement from Zeni of the sound bugging out every day, aside from a single post saying "That's interesting, tell me more".
    Edited by Reverb on November 13, 2017 1:41PM
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