[HOTR] Healers - Best Master resto staff trait(s)?

WhoSlappedThePie

Hi guys,

Did VDSA for the first time last night and got a Powered Master Resto staff for my healer but what is the best trait to use?

Is there one? Is powered as good as precise, more or less? Is Defending still a decent trait to stay alive for longer?

So confused! Thanks

WhoSlappedThePie

And also what lightning staff on back bar? What trait?

Currently using a random lightning staff with Charged but I've seen videos showing Master light staff, decisive??

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Just use any master resto you get and it is BiS. I used a sharpened one till I got a defending one. But for straight healing boost, powered is the best but for that staff, the most useful is infused, gives more stam.

Beardimus

I'd love a powered Master staff, be mint for my setup, or precise.

I think with current setup things are more situation so no absolute BIS, but I'm sure someone way more knowledgable than me will be along. Charged to help that concussed uptime is good but think infused with the shock enchant is still the win for damage

WhoSlappedThePie

OK great advice, I'll keep using the powered one I have then until I get a infused staff.

Also, lightning staff I think Charged would be best? Not trying to do damage but to keep the concussion up, right?

paulsimonps

Powered Resto, Charged Destro

WhoSlappedThePie

Yeah well I'm wondering whether to gold my powered resto staff or try to get infused/precise?

Really don't know! >.<

A few people have said powered is decent now so I might just bite the bullet and gold it out.

casparian

Gold it! The differences between powered and precise for a resto staff are incredibly small. Many healers swear by powered and many others swear by precise. If you end up regretting your choice l, you can always retrait it in Clockwork City.

WhoSlappedThePie

True, I will do! Thanks for the help here. I guess it is preference and if there isn't actually much difference then that is fine.

Tasear

Now that we can transumate come oct-sept , it could actually matter. For most part we are apericate when we actually get one instead of a frost staff (like me ) . On point though, powered is greater the precise for raw healing, precise if a balance for dps/healing, infused is most supported.... the other traits aren't as useful on a master staff.

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

And also what lightning staff on back bar? What trait?

Currently using a random lightning staff with Charged but I've seen videos showing Master light staff, decisive??

Charged the uptime for minor concussion nearly 100% this way as such the most supportive trait. Also just support is infused with weakening or crushing glyph. Infused is also good for sustain of resources though make sure to pack extra soul gems! Other precise is okay if you are trying to dps and heal on same bar.

Defending is good option to have on either bar especially when you don't have supportive champion points.

Nirn is questionable to ever use

sharpened worst trait for healers...maybe okay for a poor option instead of precise for dps/healers

FakeFox

Powered does very little in most situations, since the increased healing usually isn't needed. But if you need more healing it is strong.
Infused is the best in my opinion since it buffs the enchant and that's the whole reason to run a mast staff after all.
Defending, charged, percise and decisive are okayish as well.

And for backbar definitely go with charged lightning enchant.

WhoSlappedThePie

FakeFox wrote: »

Powered does very little in most situations, since the increased healing usually isn't needed. But if you need more healing it is strong.
Infused is the best in my opinion since it buffs the enchant and that's the whole reason to run a mast staff after all.
Defending, charged, percise and decisive are okayish as well.

And for backbar definitely go with charged lightning enchant.

It's so strange how many different answers there are; one of my friends, very good healer, swears by Defending... some other told me powered/precise are very similar... and of course a few have said infused is better for the increase stam...

I still don't know! I might grind for an infused one :P

eso_nya

Infused w/ 5 torugs restores more stam over 12 secs than shards do, to the whole raid.....just incase u can spam springs for 12 secs nonstop. Also great choice for nice looking armor and pretending to be useful by wearing it^^

SoLooney

infused on my master works great for me

idk

The desired trait for a master rStaff is not different than any rStaff. Powered, precise, defending isn't bad though it was nerfed heavy, decisive. Powered and precise is probably know at prefered but what you get first certainly will take care of you until you get something better.

Powered became more attractive with the CP nerf and the Templar major healing was reduced to minor healing.

Dasovaruilos

I'm really liking the buffed Decisive, specially on a Warden with Master Architect.

Still use Infused most of the time though.

Tasear

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

Powered does very little in most situations, since the increased healing usually isn't needed. But if you need more healing it is strong.
Infused is the best in my opinion since it buffs the enchant and that's the whole reason to run a mast staff after all.
Defending, charged, percise and decisive are okayish as well.

And for backbar definitely go with charged lightning enchant.

It's so strange how many different answers there are; one of my friends, very good healer, swears by Defending... some other told me powered/precise are very similar... and of course a few have said infused is better for the increase stam...

I still don't know! I might grind for an infused one :P

Power and precise have reasons for each usage, but powered is by far greater than precise for healing

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/363420/healer-weapon-trait-power-vs-precise

Edit

On point with the topic, you have the weigh in the skills you have slotted on your bars to make your final decision.

code65536

Powered gives you stronger heals, but failures in healing is seldom due to healing being too weak--slow reaction to healing need, poor positioning of heals, or not laying down preemptive HoTs in anticipation of damage are more common causes of failures in healing than heals being outright weak.

Defending is nice in situations where there is a lot of incoming damage to the healer, like Rakkhat Hard Mode, but with the nerf to defending, it's not as useful as it used to be. In most content, though, a healer should not need those extra defenses.

With the increasing prevalence of stamina DPS as the backbone of a vet trials group, the extra stamina return from Infused is quite useful. But if you're running a dungeon with two magicka DPS, that infused trait is just going to waste.

Which one of these is "best" varies based on context. I'd have one of each handy.

Asardes

Infused Master staff returns something like 75 stamina and gives you 300 magicka more than the other traits. You won't even notice that during a trial unless you compare it to a non-set one.

WhoSlappedThePie

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

SoLooney

im liking infused on mine, more magicka and more stam given

failkiwib16_ESO

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

WhoSlappedThePie

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

WhoSlappedThePie

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

Asardes

Well Master healing staff used to be quite good when it came out, since there weren't any 5p sets that came with weapons. It's still good for some fights where they players stay huddled together block casting under intense damage and they need every ounce of stamina to keep blocking - certainly not easy when you play magicka and you only have 10K of the green juice. But for the wast majority of content it's way better to run staves from one of your 5p sets, another 5p set on the body and a monster set for higher stats. Of course that involves a lot of farming but upcoming re-trait function may make things easier.

In my case things are pretty good, since I have a powered SPC healing staff and a sharp lightning one - I will actually re-trait that to charged for higher blockade off-balance up-time. I also run the other 4 pieces on the body, and only change the feet, belt and jewels from the secondary set - small armor pieces and jewels are by far the easiest items to farm. Also aesthetically things don't change since you can hardly notice those items - I have SPC robe that mostly covers the feet) and I really like Xivkyn style, especially when dyed with contrasting shades of blue. All topped by a heavy Kena head for a bit more health from the passives and extra spell damage. I like having the powered trait on staff and relatively high spell damage (2.7K fully buffed) since I can rely almost exclusively on HoTs to keep people fully healed and use the saved magicka for throwing more orbs and shards. In fact orbs are a very good HoT by themselves if you spread them evenly.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

No kidding it works for them, they are probably quality players already and an extra 9% healing is wasted. Just because they are good healers doesn't mean they know what is best or what would work for you or me.

WhoSlappedThePie

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

No kidding it works for them, they are probably quality players already and an extra 9% healing is wasted. Just because they are good healers doesn't mean they know what is best or what would work for you or me.

Well I feel like I play the same, it's really not hard to heal :P You just spam your rotation, use heavy attacks to regenerate, use healing springs, have decent gear, keep an eye on the health bars, buff the group etc.... not too hard to be honest, I've now healed some veteran trials with no issue so I'm fine with powered.

I think it actually is pretty decent. I used infused too but didn't really notice a difference. Like I said, it works on veteran trials with the rest of the gear, no problem. Thanks for your somewhat pessimistic response though :P

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

No kidding it works for them, they are probably quality players already and an extra 9% healing is wasted. Just because they are good healers doesn't mean they know what is best or what would work for you or me.

Well I feel like I play the same, it's really not hard to heal :P You just spam your rotation, use heavy attacks to regenerate, use healing springs, have decent gear, keep an eye on the health bars, buff the group etc.... not too hard to be honest, I've now healed some veteran trials with no issue so I'm fine with powered.

I think it actually is pretty decent. I used infused too but didn't really notice a difference. Like I said, it works on veteran trials with the rest of the gear, no problem. Thanks for your somewhat pessimistic response though :P

So if you don't notice the difference in heals, why not have the one that give more resources to your team? You are going to do what you are going to do but remember you came here to ask what is better. With the answers given, you can see most say infused with the master resto is best and you are just like nah, I know some *other*, better people that know more then you and I am just going to do what they do. So yeah, you can see how that would lead one to be pessimistic.

WhoSlappedThePie

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

No kidding it works for them, they are probably quality players already and an extra 9% healing is wasted. Just because they are good healers doesn't mean they know what is best or what would work for you or me.

Well I feel like I play the same, it's really not hard to heal :P You just spam your rotation, use heavy attacks to regenerate, use healing springs, have decent gear, keep an eye on the health bars, buff the group etc.... not too hard to be honest, I've now healed some veteran trials with no issue so I'm fine with powered.

I think it actually is pretty decent. I used infused too but didn't really notice a difference. Like I said, it works on veteran trials with the rest of the gear, no problem. Thanks for your somewhat pessimistic response though :P

So if you don't notice the difference in heals, why not have the one that give more resources to your team? You are going to do what you are going to do but remember you came here to ask what is better. With the answers given, you can see most say infused with the master resto is best and you are just like nah, I know some *other*, better people that know more then you and I am just going to do what they do. So yeah, you can see how that would lead one to be pessimistic.

No, I don't see a majority of infused actually, youtube videos, players in game, players responding here, friends that heal; I have a mixture of infused, defending (by a few that love it) powered, precise, all being very close, I think minus defending. I'm saying I didnt notice the difference in the healing vs the resources back to my team; the team I was with still cleared the vet trial with no issue, so I feel like the infused didn't really help them out too much?

I dont know, I did ask for opinions and I think I got them; the fact that it was a mixed response helped me to just keep powered. It doesn't really matter anyway, I just wondered if there was a big difference. Case closed :P

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

I just did my 2nd run and got infused. To be honest, I'm going to gold out my powered. Anything is better than my crappy maelstrom defending xD

What platform do you play on? In PC/EU most people I know would have golded their vDSA staves with decent traits in a heartbeat, to try them all out.

I'm on PS4, speaking with some really good healers, powered is pretty much the best in slot? Infused is OK but the extra heal % is beneficial as infused is only a little bit more stam returned which was already a decent amount.

Powered & Precise perform pretty similarly, I've heard from these healers so I'm going with powered.

I'll keep my infused around in case i am in a dungeon with 2 stam DD's and the extra stam would be worth it but otherwise I'll just use powered in trials etc

Powered will give you more then double the average healing that precise does at base. 9% vs around 3.5% more healing. This is the average increase, which depends on your crit rate and crit hit damage but in general, this is around the truth.

The Stam return is *THE* reason that the master resto is so sought after, so any improvement to it is great. Infused takes the 258 and makes it 335. That is pretty substantial. You really ought to be fine with the actual healing strength that you have without the 9% from powered.

I dunno, I'm just going for healers I've worked with in HM Vso and who have done Vmol etc... with the powered staff... If it works for them it works for me and I'm not min/maxing, I've already made it gold now ;D can't be bothered golding out the infused staff too.... like I said I may just use it if I have dungeon runs with 2x stam but otherwise keep the gold powered on.

No kidding it works for them, they are probably quality players already and an extra 9% healing is wasted. Just because they are good healers doesn't mean they know what is best or what would work for you or me.

Well I feel like I play the same, it's really not hard to heal :P You just spam your rotation, use heavy attacks to regenerate, use healing springs, have decent gear, keep an eye on the health bars, buff the group etc.... not too hard to be honest, I've now healed some veteran trials with no issue so I'm fine with powered.

I think it actually is pretty decent. I used infused too but didn't really notice a difference. Like I said, it works on veteran trials with the rest of the gear, no problem. Thanks for your somewhat pessimistic response though :P

So if you don't notice the difference in heals, why not have the one that give more resources to your team? You are going to do what you are going to do but remember you came here to ask what is better. With the answers given, you can see most say infused with the master resto is best and you are just like nah, I know some *other*, better people that know more then you and I am just going to do what they do. So yeah, you can see how that would lead one to be pessimistic.

No, I don't see a majority of infused actually, youtube videos, players in game, players responding here, friends that heal; I have a mixture of infused, defending (by a few that love it) powered, precise, all being very close, I think minus defending. I'm saying I didnt notice the difference in the healing vs the resources back to my team; the team I was with still cleared the vet trial with no issue, so I feel like the infused didn't really help them out too much?

I dont know, I did ask for opinions and I think I got them; the fact that it was a mixed response helped me to just keep powered. It doesn't really matter anyway, I just wondered if there was a big difference. Case closed :P

You do know. Are we reading the same stuff? I see infused as best in more posts then not. And I wouldn't even bothered to respond but you put that emoji at the end like a teanage girl.