Bloodroot Forge - Speed Run Bugged

ZOS_Jay

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

code65536

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged

For the first three runs (one of which was successful and the other two were not), we were not particularly careful about controlling the time spent in the "lobby". That said, any idle time would've been pretty minimal. No more than a couple of minutes, I'd guess. The final fourth run (which was successful), we tried to control for as many things as possible, and so we wayshrined in on a countdown and proceeded immediately as soon as everyone was out of a load screen.

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

Never.

cpuScientist

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

No we were all in the cave until we left. And left the second everyone got in. No one left the entrance cave. We also linked a video prior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67UsIY_Wue0&feature=youtu.be

Here it is. It is also linked earlier in the forum.

Samwell Slayer

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

Thanks for the response. @SamTarly in the vid.

Drummerx04

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

There was likely enough time spent in the lobby to push us over the 20 minute mark since we had our runs timed at around 18 minutes, 2 minutes standing around waiting for the last member to port in is pretty common. All runs were started once everyone was zoned in to the dungeon.

On a side note: 20 minutes is really really fast for Bloodforge. In order for my experienced vet trials competent group (vDSA completed with no deaths in about an hour) to have a reliable chance to complete the speed run for Bloodforge, we literally invis potted or ran through and died past ALL the trash pulls and only fought and killed the bosses and we skipped hard mode. This took us 18 minutes with this strategy.

For comparison: The exact same group and characters ran vet Falkreath speedrun skipping only the trash before the first boss AND completed hard mode in about 12 minutes.

The time requirement for bloodforge speed run is crazy fast.

s7732425ub17_ESO

It's like ZOS doesn't even test their game before releasing it.

Falk no death bugged- everyone got it for free.
Falk speed run bugged- if you skip the first two minotaurs, you always get the achieve no matter if it takes 1 hour to complete
Forge no death bugged- sometimes you don't get the achieve even if you have no deaths
Forge speed run bugged- this post

If you are going to release *difficult* achievements, at least make sure they WORK! If my group spent 5 hours trying to get no death Forge and then didn't get the achieve because of a bug, many tables would be flipped.

Radeon1342

My group has been doing it over and over again and still not getting the achievement, my @name is @SlimJezus, not the same as my forum name

Dusty0414

@dusty0414 we have cleared it with the speed run several times and havent gottten the achievement.. please fix this seriously how am i suppose to enter the contest if the games broken.. ugh

Dusty0414

i am with @slimJezus

Dusty0414

we got it. had to que in as a group for whatever reason

Talrol

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

@ZOS_Jay My group completed this in 19:30 tonight (three separate timers going) in game name @Talrol, @jlocke4, @Aaron_Sparrow, @Monkey36948 but did not get the achievement.

No, there was not any idle time spent at all. We queued into the instance, spent about 1 minute making sure everyone was fully spawned in and mounted then popped rapids, skipped trash to the first boss and killed her rinse repeat until the end.

No, everyone was in the instance before we began our run.

Darth_Trumpious

CSessions wrote: »

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

@ZOS_Jay My group completed this in 19:30 tonight (three separate timers going) in game name @Talrol, @jlocke4, @Aaron_Sparrow, @Monkey36948 but did not get the achievement.

No, there was not any idle time spent at all. We queued into the instance, spent about 1 minute making sure everyone was fully spawned in and mounted then popped rapids, skipped trash to the first boss and killed her rinse repeat until the end.

No, everyone was in the instance before we began our run.

Try not queuing into the instance (pre-made group and teleport into the instance directly, not using group finder) and thats how my group got the achievement

cpuScientist

Darth_Trumpious wrote: »

CSessions wrote: »

ZOS_Jay wrote: »

Thanks for the information, we're aware of the issue and looking into it.

@Drummerx04 , @code65536 @Batant @Darth_Trumpious @cpuScientist @Tyrion87

Anyone who's tagged (If you commented and I missed tagging you, feel free to respond to either of these) and didn't correctly receive this achievement.

• Was there any idle time spent before the first camp was engaged
• Was there anyone not in the instance at the time the first camp was engaged?

@ZOS_Jay My group completed this in 19:30 tonight (three separate timers going) in game name @Talrol, @jlocke4, @Aaron_Sparrow, @Monkey36948 but did not get the achievement.

No, there was not any idle time spent at all. We queued into the instance, spent about 1 minute making sure everyone was fully spawned in and mounted then popped rapids, skipped trash to the first boss and killed her rinse repeat until the end.

No, everyone was in the instance before we began our run.

Try not queuing into the instance (pre-made group and teleport into the instance directly, not using group finder) and thats how my group got the achievement

Some people said they did that and it didn't work. It's just bugged. I'm legit sick of doing it haha. Thanks for the advice though

Apherius

try to kill all mobs before the first mini- boss , apparently this work.

inf.toniceb17_ESO

game says "activity completed" when big atro falls. maybe thats the root of the problem: if medium and small atros are still alive game thinks that we skipped required bosses?

monkey36948

But the med is all ways the last one to die because I the big splits his hp and turns it to the small one the med has the most go

cpuScientist

monkey36948 wrote: »

But the med is all ways the last one to die because I the big splits his hp and turns it to the small one the med has the most go

Yeah it'd be near impossible to split the med one and still get the speed run... That'd require 2 tanks, it we'd have to use single target only on the med one and try to kill him before the big one. As the big one is quite low in execute range at that point.

code65536

inf.toniceb17_ESO wrote: »

game says "activity completed" when big atro falls. maybe thats the root of the problem: if medium and small atros are still alive game thinks that we skipped required bosses?

The medium is always the last to die for us, and we got it twice and didn't get it twice.

Samwell Slayer

Hi @ZOS_Jay. Any progress? You can see this is a very common issue with lots of people who eventually got it having the problem initially. Clearly your event should be extended to give us more time to get 'er done. Thanks

Glory

Our group also finished in 18 minutes from racing to the first boss, then killing the last boss!

Tyrion87

The bug seems to be fixed. From the today's patch notes:
Right to the Root of the Problem: Fixed an issue where this achievement for Bloodroot Forge would begin as soon as you loaded into the dungeon; the timer will now start at the first campsite.

Now I wonder if ZOS extends the duration of the Horns of the Reach Delver Giveaway... Taking into account it was indeed a bug and people didn't know what was causing it, the contest should be extended.

ecru

Qbiken wrote: »

I think the 20 minute time-mark is way to little. Unless you skip everything and only kill bosses, the speedrun is almost impossible to complete. Why create a speedrun achievement where you´ve to skip 70% of the dungeon to even have a change to complete it??

i agree it's pretty weird since it requires you to skip and die to trash to get to bosses fast enough

lolo_01b16_ESO

@ZOS_Jay
It's still not completely fixed.
Yesterday we killed the last boss ~16min after passing the first campfire and I didn't get the achievement.

Sidenotes about our run:
- PC EU
- before the speedrun we did a slower run of that dungeon. We only did reset the dungeon and didn't reform the group (this might have caused the bug)
- We skipped the first trash groups, that can be skipped by just riding fast enough (no invis potions involved).