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lack of asain/ oriental look

rynth
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I was wondering what is up with a lack of an oriental/Asian look heck even a Samurai like hair cut
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    Have you looked at the bosmer?
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.
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    LORE EXPLANATION:

    Akiviri (The few Humans that probably existed on the continent of Akivir) are the race of man that resemble Asians
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
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    Khajiits are asian. However due to the excessive amounts of fur, this is very hard, if not impossible to see. I can assure you that this is indeed the case tho. According to maiq, they are very very asian.
    Edited by MercTheMage on August 21, 2017 3:25AM
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • MercTheMage
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.

    You can adjust the eye angle too... just saying
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • tplink3r1
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    Hollery wrote: »
    LORE EXPLANATION:

    Akiviri (The few Humans that probably existed on the continent of Akivir) are the race of man that resemble Asians
    Culturally? Yes, in a way. Their looks? No one knows.
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.

    That's not even close to the definition of racist.

    There are no real-world races in this game and the models are not realistic. There are only traits from each race. There are Asian traits in the game. You're not going to get variation in epicanthic folds because there isn't that much detail in the models. And what the hell is an "Asian nose shape"? Their noses look the same as everyone else's with variations in size and position, which you can change in the game. Stop trying to make this issue more complex than it really is.
    Edited by ThePrinceOfBargains on August 21, 2017 3:35AM
  • Left4Daud
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

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    I couldn't care less what she'll wear
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    It all depends on what she cooks like...
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    Edited by Left4Daud on August 21, 2017 3:45AM
  • tplink3r1
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.
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  • MythicEmperor
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    Orsimer get kimonos. Katanas and samurai-esque armor are present as motifs. Dunmer architecture in Stonefalls and Deshaan have eastern influences. Just because there isn't one group that is specifically oriental doesn't mean that its influences can't be seen. In fact, no TES culture is specifically one group. Even the viking-esque Nords have egyptian influences in their mummification process. TES races are unique and can't be likened to a single people from real life; they draw their inspiration from many cultures throughout history.
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  • rynth
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    yeah but you have looks that are more middle eastern/Nubian looks for redguard, Britons well looks like white Europeans, Nords look like swidish, Danish, Viking look. Imperials take on a more ancient Roman like look with the nose, skin tone, and facial features.

    Just saying adding Asian looks doesn't hurt emersion or anything, just something I noticed when I tried to make a Samurai looking human no hair do, skin tone, or facial features.

    not trying to say anything about racism or imply it just something I noticed and well for myself I'd like to be able to play in game.
    Edited by rynth on August 21, 2017 3:45AM
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    There is a samurai haircut.

    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/shaved-warrior-topknot/

    Edit: this haircut is in character creation for some races not all, to unlock it for all your characters the Cosmetic Hair Pack must be purchased.

    Also I've made Bosmer and Redguard look reliably Asian, but maybe you meant stereotypical pale Japanese from a cartoon?

    What about the eastern-Russian native peoples who look "Asian"?

    How about darker skinned Malay or Pilipino persons?

    I think maybe you should post a picture of the individual you want to look like because asking for "Asian" or even "oriental" (by the way, don't use that word to refer to people, only objects such as rugs can be oriental) is going to get you into a heap of trouble.

    Oh and by the way, yes you can make white Redguards.
    Edited by max_only on August 21, 2017 4:16AM
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  • Betsararie
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    How about a legitimate ninja costume

    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Apparently he doesn't know that there are whole races/groups of asians with a naturally white skin tone. LOL. It's okay man
    Edited by Betsararie on August 21, 2017 3:49AM
  • rynth
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    max_only wrote: »
    There is a samurai haircut.

    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/shaved-warrior-topknot/

    Also I've made Bosmer and Redguard look reliably Asian, but maybe you meant stereotypical pale Japanese from a cartoon?

    What about the eastern-Russian native peoples who look "Asian"?

    How about darker skinned Malay or Pilipino persons?

    I think maybe you should post a picture of the individual you want to look like because asking for "Asian" or even "oriental" (by the way, don't use that word to refer to people, only objects such as rugs can be oriental) is going to get you into a heap of trouble.
    yeah issue is its a crown store item seems I don't kind of *** put as a crown store purchase but eh I'll purchase it if its still for sale. Well as to the rest I'm talking about a generic looks...yes sigh if you want a stereo typical game playing Asian look.
    Edited by rynth on August 21, 2017 3:55AM
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    Edited by FluffyReachWitch on August 21, 2017 3:58AM
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.

    yeah this would be a great thing, hell you could tie it in with being an ESO sub perk ability to have interracial looks.

    As for the Samurai hair cut it looks like it was a limited time style cause its not in the store anymore
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    It's in the character creation
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  • tplink3r1
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    ''Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race.''
    There is 0 evidence to support that the word ''traits'' in the book refers to physical traits.

    ''Bretons exist.''
    Still they don't have any visual elven trait, only a gift in magicka and intellect.

    Never at any point we had humans with pointy ears, Nords with brown skin, Altmers with Orc teeth, or anything like that. Just stop.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on August 21, 2017 4:14AM
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  • LMar
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    This is not the earth nor does it have earth cultures. Try to make do with in ingame universe thingies.
    As has been mentioned you can mix and match from the various other cultures of Tamriel
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    The samurai haircut is in character creation, but not for all ESO races. You can unlock it for all your characters by buying the hair pack from the store that says Cosmetic HairPack " access to all the standard player character hairstyles"

    Do you want female or male character first of all?
    Edited by max_only on August 21, 2017 4:09AM
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  • rynth
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    max_only wrote: »
    The samurai haircut is in character creation, but not for all ESO races. You can unlock it for all your characters by buying the hair pack from the store that says "all current hairstyles" give you

    Do you want female or male character first of all?

    cool thank you very much

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    @rynth Please stop. You know nothing about Asian culture. Asian people don't beg other people to make games (or movies or any other kind of entertainment) representing their culture. If they want Asian culture to be represented in a game, they make the damn game themselves. Take a look around, they have a well developed game industry, they have made a *** loads of games about their culture, they don't need some random dude who doesn't even respect their culture to cry about how Asian people are not being represented properly in a game they didn't make. This is so disrespectful towards Asian people, their heritage, their culture, their game industry and their own ability to create.

    Mods, please close this stupid thread.
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    @rynth Please stop. You know nothing about Asian culture. Asian people don't beg other people to make games (or movies or any other kind of entertainment) representing their culture. If they want Asian culture to be represented in a game, they make the damn game themselves. Take a look around, they have a well developed game industry, they have made a *** loads of games about their culture, they don't need some random dude who doesn't even respect their culture to cry about how Asian people are not being represented properly in a game they didn't make. This is so disrespectful towards Asian people, their heritage, their culture, their game industry and their own ability to create.

    Mods, please close this stupid thread.

    You're overreacting.
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    There's also a new motif style in the works that looks like Akaviri 2.0. It was on the PTS during Morrowind's beta.
    I wish I could share a screenshot, but as it didn't make it to live, I guess it's technically still under NDA?
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race (although for some reason it treats people in setting like Pokemon na. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    ''Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race.''
    There is 0 evidence to support the word ''traits'' in the book refers to physical traits.

    ''Bretons exist.''
    Still they don't have any visual elven trait, only a gift in magicka and intellect.

    The use of the word "traits" is not the point. Have you ever read Notes on Racial Phylogeny in setting? While for some reason it treats people like Pokemon and says they mainly look like their mothers, it notes resemblance to the father as well.

    As for Bretons, lore regarding them includes stories of early Nordic encounters with them. The first Nords to take over Skyrim eventually ran into early Bretons and noted that they looked remarkably elven -- so much so that they decided to attack them until they began pleading for their lives in Nedic. Most Bretons as of the Second Era look more human. Bretons are more canon evidence that these things aren't set in stone.
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    TheMaster wrote: »
    @rynth Please stop. You know nothing about Asian culture. Asian people don't beg other people to make games (or movies or any other kind of entertainment) representing their culture. If they want Asian culture to be represented in a game, they make the damn game themselves. Take a look around, they have a well developed game industry, they have made a *** loads of games about their culture, they don't need some random dude who doesn't even respect their culture to cry about how Asian people are not being represented properly in a game they didn't make. This is so disrespectful towards Asian people, their heritage, their culture, their game industry and their own ability to create.

    Mods, please close this stupid thread.

    You're overreacting.

    Oh I am not. It's so disrespectful towards Asian people if someone complains about the lack of Asian culture in Western entertainment and media industry, because doing so implies that Asian can't create things themselves, which is not true. If they want themselves to be represented in a game, they will freaking make their own game, and make sure that they do it right.
    Edited by hmsdragonfly on August 21, 2017 4:23AM
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  • tplink3r1
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race (although for some reason it treats people in setting like Pokemon na. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    ''Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race.''
    There is 0 evidence to support the word ''traits'' in the book refers to physical traits.

    ''Bretons exist.''
    Still they don't have any visual elven trait, only a gift in magicka and intellect.

    The use of the word "traits" is not the point. Have you ever read Notes on Racial Phylogeny in setting? While for some reason it treats people like Pokemon and says they mainly look like their mothers, it notes resemblance to the father as well.

    As for Bretons, lore regarding them includes stories of early Nordic encounters with them. The first Nords to take over Skyrim eventually ran into early Bretons and noted that they looked remarkably elven -- so much so that they decided to attack them until they began pleading for their lives in Nedic. Most Bretons as of the Second Era look more human. Bretons are more canon evidence that these things aren't set in stone.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race (although for some reason it treats people in setting like Pokemon na. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
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    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    TheMaster wrote: »
    There's a "squint" option and plenty of races have tan skin options. The Soul-Shriven Swords look like katanas. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

    Epicanthic folds and a more Asian nose shape would be a start. Reducing a very broad range of ethnicities to squinty eyes and tan skin is really racist.
    That's the idea. Nords with squint eyes or Bretons with dark brown skin are not a thing in TES lore, get over it.

    People can have all sorts of combinations of traits from their parents. Race and appearance isn't something that is that concrete. This is true in The Elder Scrolls as well. Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race. Bretons exist. Considering the amount of interaction between all the people of Tamriel and the fact that interracial families exist, we should have the option to create Bretons with dark brown skin and Nords with epicanthic folds.
    ''Lorebooks in setting point out that people have traits from both of their parents regardless of race.''
    There is 0 evidence to support the word ''traits'' in the book refers to physical traits.

    ''Bretons exist.''
    Still they don't have any visual elven trait, only a gift in magicka and intellect.

    The use of the word "traits" is not the point. Have you ever read Notes on Racial Phylogeny in setting? While for some reason it treats people like Pokemon and says they mainly look like their mothers, it notes resemblance to the father as well.

    As for Bretons, lore regarding them includes stories of early Nordic encounters with them. The first Nords to take over Skyrim eventually ran into early Bretons and noted that they looked remarkably elven -- so much so that they decided to attack them until they began pleading for their lives in Nedic. Most Bretons as of the Second Era look more human. Bretons are more canon evidence that these things aren't set in stone.
    The book says that traces of the father's race may be present, not that they resemble their father physiologically.

    "The first Nords to take over Skyrim eventually ran into early Bretons and noted that they looked remarkably elven''
    Can you please give me the source? I have never heard of this.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on August 21, 2017 4:53AM
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