Sotha Sil (EU PC)

Trashs1

Thraben wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO

thats Sotha sil before prime time^^

Sorry for pushing against red yesterday. The next time our target selection will be less biased.

So we do the same as everyday alternate between going to east and south?

Thraben

Trashs1 wrote: »

So we do the same as everyday alternate between going to east and south?

Meanwhile at the EP nightcapping centre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvAYwpUDv8

CapuchinSeven

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

and still ep is last, I find it hillarious But please continue If your statements were true, ep should have same lead as yellow on vivec, but ep doesnt. Thats the facts. Ep is last. How can a faction zerging the other two factions so hard making map unplayable be last in score? It just doesnt make sense or someone just go dadidaablaablaablaa to reality. Fact is all three factions zerg, BUT at prime time the zerg is poplocked, AND yellows/blues get tanked by ep, till after midnight when ep goes to sleep. Isnt that correct, yes we know it is.

Now how are you going to stop zerging, was the question; Answer is, it wont stop. And dont come crying about EP starting it. Ive been here since beta and Ive seen my fair share of zerging from both sides. You can look at the past with your rose tainted glasses, but its always been like this. Since the bat-swarms until todays bombing NB's (and yes, most guilds who run so called guild groups are pugs, because a pug is a member of a pick up group, and if you advertize in /z to fill up your group, youre a pug group by definition).

Still I manage at times to find soloers or smallish groups roaming around, which is nice. I dont have problems finding small scale fights, but if your primary target is to push ep back to spawngates, you will never do that. EP wont smallscale arrius/kings and farragut if theyre under a threat. Leaders on EP side spread out in two directions, one is south and one is west, that means either pact are on the offensive on one side, or they try to tank the other side. Yellows and blues on the other hand, apart from some very few small groups, head directly into red territory the moment they log in. And then they meet a zerg and complain about it. Now thats hypocrizy if you ask me If you REALLY wanna small scale, try avoiding the obvious chokepoints, especially at prime-time. If your pug jesuses of various colours bark you to smash into one direction and dozer all in its path down, you should go the other way Its not harder actually

...because you bad?

CapuchinSeven

Feanor wrote: »

And frankly, you can be grateful that your “tanking 2 factions” escape route isn’t true - if DC would really focus only Reds (and AD wouldn’t push past Roe/Ash) you wouldn’t own one keep for all of prime time.

Agree, AD and DC are both guilty of this and it's not going to change which is a shame.

red_emu

Truth of the matter is that when EP is pop locked and AD is pop locked, reds have maybe one or two keeps of their own. Kinda makes you think....

Leeched

Just want to say good job to Everfire last night, who opened three DC keeps so EP could take them with 0 effort - I bet they appreciated that!

Feanor

DC was a bit obnoxious yesterday. Not complaining though - AD is leading after all so a bit more focus from the other 2 alliances is justified. I just wish DC wouldn’t copy EP and run in huge groups too. They don’t need to do it, average player skill in DC is way higher than on EP.

ordraveeb17_ESO

lol ))) DC give emp to AD ))) that a shame on you guys )))

Feanor

ordraveeb17_ESO wrote: »

lol ))) DC give emp to AD ))) that a shame on you guys )))

And afterwards DC didn’t attack you when you moved waltzed south with your 50+ blob and dethroned. So what?

Meanwhile speaking of shame is a bit rich when you need this to get anything done:

Trashs1

yo was hard yesterday. jellows semm to be good organized this campain

red_emu

Right now cyrodiil is awfully unbalanced. One second it's nice and steady, the next EP swipes the map with 60-100 players in one spot. Even guild raids are impossible to stop them. You can throw 20 negates and it doesn't matter. When there's 10 enemies per group member they can hack you to pieces with light attacks in the blob. Same thing happens in Vivec where AD does blob runs. This isn't a problem ZOS can fix in any way. I do however feel Sotha Sil will eventually die. All AD end up switching to EP until there's noone left to push them back. Shame really when every major fight lasts 10 seconds and defending a keep is near impossible. Fights with DC are way more fun, but AD has a lot of respect for our fellow underpopulated blue friends and will attack only when provoked or to retake a home keep.

Thraben

red_emu wrote: »

Right now cyrodiil is awfully unbalanced. One second it's nice and steady, the next EP swipes the map with 60-100 players in one spot. Even guild raids are impossible to stop them. You can throw 20 negates and it doesn't matter. When there's 10 enemies per group member they can hack you to pieces with light attacks in the blob. Same thing happens in Vivec where AD does blob runs. This isn't a problem ZOS can fix in any way. I do however feel Sotha Sil will eventually die. All AD end up switching to EP until there's noone left to push them back. Shame really when every major fight lasts 10 seconds and defending a keep is near impossible. Fights with DC are way more fun, but AD has a lot of respect for our fellow underpopulated blue friends and will attack only when provoked or to retake a home keep.

Nah, a sufficiently large yell All-Star-Ballgroup could stop them at the bridges with a hilarious massacre. The Yells even form such a raid from time to time (for trolling Bleakers), but certainly not at 12 pm.

Sotha is far from being dead, we had MONTHS without any Yell activity outside of bleakers. It´s good to see that they have been the dominating faction at prime time for 2 months now - it´s a sign that the campaign is alive again.

Feanor

Also, ZS has been playing on Sotha for AD more often lately. It shows. Shoutout to @Lieblingsjunge and @MLRPZ.

MLRPZ

We did raid on sotha tuesday and started raid there yesterday. But we went vivec at some point cause AD had both Lux and Fist up and EP got destroyed too fast

Leeched

Yesterday was the first time I actually left Sotha during primetime to play on the laggy mess called Vivec. First there was a MASS of EP nobody could stop (we had 2 bars then, ad and ep 3) and then suddenly multiple AD groups showed up to take emp and some of our homekeeps (DC only faction not poplocked). DC had 0 organized groups at this time and we just got steamrolled everywhere.

CapuchinSeven

Trashs1 wrote: »

yo was hard yesterday. jellows semm to be good organized this campain

Yup, AD have gotten over the "we can't ever win" chip on their shoulder.
Pact might not like or believe it, but fighting an organsied AD is a far harder thing than fighting Pact. The average AD skill level is far higher.

red_emu

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

yo was hard yesterday. jellows semm to be good organized this campain

Yup, AD have gotten over the "we can't ever win" chip on their shoulder.
Pact might not like or believe it, but fighting an organsied AD is a far harder thing than fighting Pact. The average AD skill level is far higher.

I honestly don't think it's about the lack of skill. It's more about the lack of care. I have played with my EP alt a few times and it's just so easy when you're moving like wilder-beast across Serengeti. EP has quite a few skilled players but eveyone has also got really lazy. While on the opposite side, when you are severely outnumbered, you are constantly aware of your surroundings, your regen, fellow players, etc. This is the reason when you have 20EP fighting 20AD, Aldmeri win 4 out of 5 times, because we are constantly kept on our toes.

And then 10 DC run up from sneak with proxy det + v.death + eye of flame and all 40 of us are dead

Lieblingsjunge

Feanor wrote: »

Also, ZS has been playing on Sotha for AD more often lately. It shows. Shoutout to @Lieblingsjunge and @MLRPZ.

Sotha is a nice campaign. It's a lot less lag than on Vivec and you run into different challenges on Sotha than on Vivec. It's nice with the change. Although - Sotha is really boring when you get 3 AD guilds rnning at the same time. (Like on Wednesdays).
But ZS was pretty much alone(At least I didnt see any other organised group) on Tuesday and, personally, I prefer that over Vivec.

Trashs1

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Also, ZS has been playing on Sotha for AD more often lately. It shows. Shoutout to @Lieblingsjunge and @MLRPZ.

Sotha is a nice campaign. It's a lot less lag than on Vivec and you run into different challenges on Sotha than on Vivec. It's nice with the change. Although - Sotha is really boring when you get 3 AD guilds rnning at the same time. (Like on Wednesdays).
But ZS was pretty much alone(At least I didnt see any other organised group) on Tuesday and, personally, I prefer that over Vivec.

i really know only some medicore guildgroups on ep side. u might need to come more often to sotha and enforce your ally.. if not its all about this:

DC lowest pop but 2-4 good guild grps who can wreck
AD high pop+ 2 good guild grps+ some medicore ones
EP some medicore grps and the mass of cannon meat

who do u think will win this?^^

MLRPZ

The thing is, we usually play AD on sotha cause EP is pop locked with a queue at the time we start our raids. It's easier for us to play AD and it's a good change to be able to go fight again towards bleakers/chalman/arrius, so many cool places over there

Thraben

The main prpbl

MLRPZ wrote: »

The thing is, we usually play AD on sotha cause EP is pop locked with a queue at the time we start our raids. It's easier for us to play AD and it's a good change to be able to go fight again towards bleakers/chalman/arrius, so many cool places over there

When you were on the red side, either the red zerg felt encouraged to reappear ahead of schedule before 10:30 pm CET, or there were simply too few DC willing to fight. Must have been horribly boring.

I think it´s great that you are back on the yell side:

Due to DDK´s casual guild status, I can´t prevent people from playing classes and skill setups and individualistic playstyles that make group combat more challenging than even I want it to be. Some deaths against you teach people more than any word could.

CoachPower

Thraben wrote: »

The main prpbl

MLRPZ wrote: »

The thing is, we usually play AD on sotha cause EP is pop locked with a queue at the time we start our raids. It's easier for us to play AD and it's a good change to be able to go fight again towards bleakers/chalman/arrius, so many cool places over there

When you were on the red side, either the red zerg felt encouraged to reappear ahead of schedule before 10:30 pm CET, or there were simply too few DC willing to fight. Must have been horribly boring.

I think it´s great that you are back on the yell side:

Due to DDK´s casual guild status, I can´t prevent people from playing classes and skill setups and individualistic playstyles that make group combat more challenging than even I want it to be. Some deaths against you teach people more than any word could.

You guys were OP last night.

MLRPZ

Thraben wrote: »

The main prpbl

MLRPZ wrote: »

The thing is, we usually play AD on sotha cause EP is pop locked with a queue at the time we start our raids. It's easier for us to play AD and it's a good change to be able to go fight again towards bleakers/chalman/arrius, so many cool places over there

When you were on the red side, either the red zerg felt encouraged to reappear ahead of schedule before 10:30 pm CET, or there were simply too few DC willing to fight. Must have been horribly boring.

I think it´s great that you are back on the yell side:

Due to DDK´s casual guild status, I can´t prevent people from playing classes and skill setups and individualistic playstyles that make group combat more challenging than even I want it to be. Some deaths against you teach people more than any word could.

Again, what Lieb said, I think it's only profitable for us to raid on sotha AD on days where Lux and Fist are not up. Otherwise there's too many organised AD groups. So we'll prob be still maining EP vivec but we might come and pay visit from time to time

Trashs1

MLRPZ wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

The main prpbl

MLRPZ wrote: »

The thing is, we usually play AD on sotha cause EP is pop locked with a queue at the time we start our raids. It's easier for us to play AD and it's a good change to be able to go fight again towards bleakers/chalman/arrius, so many cool places over there

When you were on the red side, either the red zerg felt encouraged to reappear ahead of schedule before 10:30 pm CET, or there were simply too few DC willing to fight. Must have been horribly boring.

I think it´s great that you are back on the yell side:

Due to DDK´s casual guild status, I can´t prevent people from playing classes and skill setups and individualistic playstyles that make group combat more challenging than even I want it to be. Some deaths against you teach people more than any word could.

Again, what Lieb said, I think it's only profitable for us to raid on sotha AD on days where Lux and Fist are not up. Otherwise there's too many organised AD groups. So we'll prob be still maining EP vivec but we might come and pay visit from time to time

we will salute u guys with our swords to the great battle for the honour and the girls!

Wolfkeks

Every alliance zergs, bombs, pugs, plays in small pvp groups. Depends on the players not the alliance.

Trashs1

server ***.ked....

Thraben

Nice week everyone!

A lot of balanced and good fights everywhere. Let´s hope it stays like that.

Checkmath

and we can see how the campaign is nearly to its end....reds again mastering their pve skills at keeps during daytime and waiting in 20 man groups for anything getting under assault to run there defeating the few enemies.

Trashs1

Checkmath wrote: »

and we can see how the campaign is nearly to its end....reds again mastering their pve skills at keeps during daytime and waiting in 20 man groups for anything getting under assault to run there defeating the few enemies.

business as usual

Wolfkeks

Tbh I wanted to do some fishing this morning morning in Cyro, because I thought no one would be on, and there was a group of yells at the gate, waiting for peeps to come out to kill 'em... so ehh.
Again, alliance doesn't matter, all down to the players.
Still hope that changes, because, like people above me said, it's no fun, no matter what alliance, if you can't even get out the gate or get your home keeps back because you get overrun by farmers.