SlinkySlack wrote: »press button rapidly for crushing shock, then RAPIDLY press the block and release block and press block and release, can do 2 to 3 crushing shocks per 1 to 2 sec. Well at least for me on the PS4, we have no macros and stuff like that.
^^ this is still considered low firing rate by some, I'm still learning and some skills, animation cancel others perfectly while some can not be animation cancelled at all.
The issue always seems to be ZOS getting the information in the first place.
Malamar1229 wrote: »I hope i dont get into trouble for posting this, but there ARE several youtube videos demonstrating how to macro.
I personally have a mechanical keyboard with 6 G keys that allow programming. I dont know how to do it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE
I cant watch vids on my work computer, but I think this is the one to which I was referring earlier.
DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
So you can't write a macro to account for the small gap in time necessary? The sequence you spoke of. So in theory all you need to do is press one key and you pull off a small attack combo.
DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
Don't be silly. People will sooner believe that all sorcs are exploiters.
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
You remind me of those people who swore out that it was just naturally high ultimate regeneration when those videos started popping of people casting Meteor 8 to 10 times back after back. Lmao. You keep believing that there is no foul play at hand.
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
You remind me of those people who swore out that it was just naturally high ultimate regeneration when those videos started popping of people casting Meteor 8 to 10 times back after back. Lmao. You keep believing that there is no foul play at hand.
Malamar1229 wrote: »I hope i dont get into trouble for posting this, but there ARE several youtube videos demonstrating how to macro.
I personally have a mechanical keyboard with 6 G keys that allow programming. I dont know how to do it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE
I cant watch vids on my work computer, but I think this is the one to which I was referring earlier.
That's fine.. He's not breaking any GCD's.. just macroing a barswap/cast/barswap.. Its no faster than doing it manually, has no flexibility like if you want to stay on the other bar rather than swap back, and I can see it getting screwy when its laggy.. you can compensate for that manually but not with a macro using set delay intervals.
I don't macro in ESO, I don't see the point.. I can easily reach and use all my skills/abilities without having to take my hand away from WASD.. Other games I have... older MMO's which have 3-5 bars full of 10 skills each, many with cooldowns... and you use them all... there's a definite advantage to macro's there.. but not here though.
JamieAubrey wrote: »ANYTHING EVER GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS [PC/EU]
I BET MOST KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND NO ITS NOT FROM LAG ETC ITS THESE SORCS WITH 25K SHIELDS AND MACRO'ING ALL SKILLS TO FIRE OFF AT ONCE
I lay dead and watched a Sorc do his rotation and CLEARLY he was managing to get off skills at such a fast pace its impossible to do any other way
Crushing Shock, takes me at least 2-3 seconds to fire off 2 , not this guy, 3 IN A SECOND - EXPLAIN
I normally dont care but enough is enough
There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
Don't be silly. People will sooner believe that all sorcs are exploiters.
Sad thing is, OP is a sorc main. Not a very good one mind you, he's a big boss sorc, but he is a nice guy to be fair to him. This is the first time I've seen him react like this after a death in Cyro. Usually he gets on with it. My guess is this DC sorc 1vX'd him, like he destroyed that one Swiss guy who tried to name and shame on this thread about 10 seconds into a duel and he got triggered.
JamieAubrey wrote: »ANYTHING EVER GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS [PC/EU]
I BET MOST KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND NO ITS NOT FROM LAG ETC ITS THESE SORCS WITH 25K SHIELDS AND MACRO'ING ALL SKILLS TO FIRE OFF AT ONCE
I lay dead and watched a Sorc do his rotation and CLEARLY he was managing to get off skills at such a fast pace its impossible to do any other way
Crushing Shock, takes me at least 2-3 seconds to fire off 2 , not this guy, 3 IN A SECOND - EXPLAIN
I normally dont care but enough is enough
I understand your frustration. I've fought recently a magsorc who was obviously cheating in battlegrounds. There is something unclear and suspicious about some players in this game.
He killed me instantly with many skills in less than one second. He did the same with the others players in my team this day.
I've reported this player, and I got only an automatic answer from customer service telling me to add this player on ignore list. I'm disappointed to see Zenimax is not taking seriously reports for cheating.
(I was full health before he one shot me)
JamieAubrey wrote: »There is an internal global cooldown on skills of 1 second. even if you macro a animation cancel you cant beat the cooldown lol ..
So many people wrong in here. There is no maco 5 attacks. you probably got hit bu a crushing shock that is 3x attacks + an enchant + a proc and a light attack or something that landed the same time.
Chill out.
Learn the mechanics.
Git Gud.
Don't be silly. People will sooner believe that all sorcs are exploiters.
Sad thing is, OP is a sorc main. Not a very good one mind you, he's a big boss sorc, but he is a nice guy to be fair to him. This is the first time I've seen him react like this after a death in Cyro. Usually he gets on with it. My guess is this DC sorc 1vX'd him, like he destroyed that one Swiss guy who tried to name and shame on this thread about 10 seconds into a duel and he got triggered.
Teehee, yeah not the best but even I know when someone is doing something dodgy to get an upper hand
JamieAubrey wrote: »ANYTHING EVER GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS [PC/EU]
I BET MOST KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND NO ITS NOT FROM LAG ETC ITS THESE SORCS WITH 25K SHIELDS AND MACRO'ING ALL SKILLS TO FIRE OFF AT ONCE
I lay dead and watched a Sorc do his rotation and CLEARLY he was managing to get off skills at such a fast pace its impossible to do any other way
Crushing Shock, takes me at least 2-3 seconds to fire off 2 , not this guy, 3 IN A SECOND - EXPLAIN
I normally dont care but enough is enough
JamieAubrey wrote: »ANYTHING EVER GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS [PC/EU]
I BET MOST KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND NO ITS NOT FROM LAG ETC ITS THESE SORCS WITH 25K SHIELDS AND MACRO'ING ALL SKILLS TO FIRE OFF AT ONCE
I lay dead and watched a Sorc do his rotation and CLEARLY he was managing to get off skills at such a fast pace its impossible to do any other way
Crushing Shock, takes me at least 2-3 seconds to fire off 2 , not this guy, 3 IN A SECOND - EXPLAIN
I normally dont care but enough is enough
I understand your frustration. I've fought recently a magsorc who was obviously cheating in battlegrounds. There is something unclear and suspicious about some players in this game.
He killed me instantly with many skills in less than one second. He did the same with the others players in my team this day.
I've reported this player, and I got only an automatic answer from customer service telling me to add this player on ignore list. I'm disappointed to see Zenimax is not taking seriously reports for cheating.
(I was full health before he one shot me)
The death recaps are bugged since Morrowind. You didnt see the heavy attack or the CF probably and maybe even another attack. The recap doesn't show half the things that hit you or even the KB most of the time.
DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
So you can't write a macro to account for the small gap in time necessary? The sequence you spoke of. So in theory all you need to do is press one key and you pull off a small attack combo.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you asking if I can press one key and have it activate ten attacks? Sure can: not at once, which is what people think it does.
I hold left click I can chain a million heavy attacks back to back. Exact same situation.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
So you can't write a macro to account for the small gap in time necessary? The sequence you spoke of. So in theory all you need to do is press one key and you pull off a small attack combo.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you asking if I can press one key and have it activate ten attacks? Sure can: not at once, which is what people think it does.
I hold left click I can chain a million heavy attacks back to back. Exact same situation.
Can a macro be written, taking in account the global cool down, which would essentially make an animation canceling combo, block casting, etc, essentially a 100% guaranteed success?
The same way players can "manually" animation cancel, can't a macro be written to do the same thing without the possibility of error because all it requires is one key press?
DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
So you can't write a macro to account for the small gap in time necessary? The sequence you spoke of. So in theory all you need to do is press one key and you pull off a small attack combo.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you asking if I can press one key and have it activate ten attacks? Sure can: not at once, which is what people think it does.
I hold left click I can chain a million heavy attacks back to back. Exact same situation.
Can a macro be written, taking in account the global cool down, which would essentially make an animation canceling combo, block casting, etc, essentially a 100% guaranteed success?
The same way players can "manually" animation cancel, can't a macro be written to do the same thing without the possibility of error because all it requires is one key press?
In a lag free environment, yes! Just remember you have to program the timing of your macro. As others said, if your ping drops you lose out to manual input, if it raises your macro won't work right. That, and if you take the example I gave (CS, LA, ward combo) and activate it when your shields are full, you wasted a bunch of magicka.
The short answer to your question: yes, if your ping is stable over the course of your entire play period, it will be better than manual input on timing alone.
DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Anne_Firehawk wrote: »All the people crying about macroing/whatever when theres a global cooldown which can NOT be circumvented - priceless
You can't write and fire off a macro to reproduce an animation cancel of a couple of attacks?
To explain where the disconnect is:
You cannot simultaneously cast crushing shock and hardened ward. There must be time in between the use of skills. A macro can be used so that you press a button (for simplicity, 1) and have the keystrokes read as pressing one, left click and 4 (your shield) in sequence. Note, I said in sequence. You could, of course, set macros to spam your one and 4 key together, but it would not cast both at once.
Macros can't rewrite code. It just won't work that way.
And then there are some people that think it can, but can never seem to replicate it.
So you can't write a macro to account for the small gap in time necessary? The sequence you spoke of. So in theory all you need to do is press one key and you pull off a small attack combo.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you asking if I can press one key and have it activate ten attacks? Sure can: not at once, which is what people think it does.
I hold left click I can chain a million heavy attacks back to back. Exact same situation.
Can a macro be written, taking in account the global cool down, which would essentially make an animation canceling combo, block casting, etc, essentially a 100% guaranteed success?
The same way players can "manually" animation cancel, can't a macro be written to do the same thing without the possibility of error because all it requires is one key press?
In a lag free environment, yes! Just remember you have to program the timing of your macro. As others said, if your ping drops you lose out to manual input, if it raises your macro won't work right. That, and if you take the example I gave (CS, LA, ward combo) and activate it when your shields are full, you wasted a bunch of magicka.
The short answer to your question: yes, if your ping is stable over the course of your entire play period, it will be better than manual input on timing alone.
It's impossible to have stable ping 5 minutes, let alone over a long period of time.
Again, exactly why macro's suck in this game.