EXPLOITING SORCS

JamieAubrey

ANYTHING EVER GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS [PC/EU]

I BET MOST KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND NO ITS NOT FROM LAG ETC ITS THESE SORCS WITH 25K SHIELDS AND MACRO'ING ALL SKILLS TO FIRE OFF AT ONCE

I lay dead and watched a Sorc do his rotation and CLEARLY he was managing to get off skills at such a fast pace its impossible to do any other way

Crushing Shock, takes me at least 2-3 seconds to fire off 2 , not this guy, 3 IN A SECOND - EXPLAIN

I normally dont care but enough is enough

Turelus

Have you reported the players in game, via a normal reporting player ticket?

Do you have video evidence of it at all?

Have you sent the above in a PM to anyone at ZOS?

Vaoh

Sounds like a sort of "macroslice". You sure you didn't just lag?

I've never seen this and you wrote out a post in all caps claiming there's an exploit with no video evidence of someone killing you this way

Asgari

Sounds like lag

Dymence

Macroslice

White wabbit

Funny how sounds like lag is the go to answer for some

idk

Vaoh wrote: »

Sounds like a sort of "macroslice". You sure you didn't just lag?

I've never seen this and you wrote out a post in all caps claiming there's an exploit with no video evidence of someone killing you this way

I agree. With no offense to OP, it is easy to state someone happened and it is easy to think we see something yet do not.

OP should report it to Zos, provide video evidence if available.

Malmai

Macros, scripts, lag, ac, exploits is basicly trademark of ESO but you know you have to be skilled to put 5 skills in one script and press 1 button...

Turelus

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sounds like a sort of "macroslice". You sure you didn't just lag?

I've never seen this and you wrote out a post in all caps claiming there's an exploit with no video evidence of someone killing you this way

I agree. With no offense to OP, it is easy to state someone happened and it is easy to think we see something yet do not.

OP should report it to Zos, provide video evidence if available.

This.

I can confirm that exploits get addressed if they're seen by ZOS. I have reported some in the past (major and minor) and when they've been noted they have been addressed in later patch notes.

The issue always seems to be ZOS getting the information in the first place.

JamieAubrey

Its not lag/macro slice/etc

You can clearly see 1 sorc spamming skills and managing to keep shields UP AT ALL TIMES

I CAN'T EVEN DO THIS, Its either spam my shields to stay alive or try to use skills and die, all while being attacked by 10+ but if it was the enemy sorc with 10+ he manages to keeps shields UP ALWAYS

SlinkySlack

press button rapidly for crushing shock, then RAPIDLY press the block and release block and press block and release, can do 2 to 3 crushing shocks per 1 to 2 sec. Well at least for me on the PS4, we have no macros and stuff like that.
^^ this is still considered low firing rate by some, I'm still learning and some skills, animation cancel others perfectly while some can not be animation cancelled at all.

ValkynSketha

It is a macroslice it can be done with heavy/light attack +gap closer+skills button mashing specially with 2h, and it is the devs fault, the end.

Anne_Firehawk

Video or didn't happen. If you claim something, provide evidence.

JamieAubrey

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

Video or didn't happen. If you claim something, provide evidence.

I'll try and get video

Asardes

I've managed to pull this off by accident a few times. Crushing shock, curse, frags and a medium weave going almost at the same instant. But I was lagging badly and my game was giving me the beep ... beep ... warning as I was pressing keys. So it's entirely possible that user just pressed the button 2-3 times in order to make it work over terrible lag, and the server executed them almost at once as it caught up with the client. Normally the game has a 0.8s cooldown for skills - you can only LA/HA in between, hence the animation cancel technique - so you can't actually pull more than 3 skills in 2.5s. But I think that cooldown may be ignored if there's a big command queue to the server. If this can be intentionally exploited it's debatable, since lag is not really that predictable. It usually comes in spikes.

SkillzMFG

Played Sorc since beta I assure you that you CANNOT fire off 3 abilities at once no matter how good are you at animation cancelling.
On the other hand I never cheated and used outside help for this game so who knows?

Idinuse

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

Video or didn't happen. If you claim something, provide evidence.

No you provide video that it's lag. Thanks.

Turelus

@JamieAubrey just be aware you can't post that video publicly on these forums.

Even if people demand proof of you it's against the forums rules and you'll just be moderated. If you have evidence of it then you're better passing it over to ZOS directly and having them to review it.

When I reported something recently I sent it to Jessica, Gina, Rich and Wrobel (it was a skill/gameplay exploit) with information of what it was and when/how it was being done. I also notified each of them who else I had sent it to (so they could let others know if easier than sending it on again).
I then politely notified Gina via Twitter that she had a message about an exploit if she could take a look when she got a free moment.

Three weeks later it was patched out and I had a message from Wrobel saying it had been addressed and thanks.

So again the issues are addressed if they see them, agree they're an issue (not everything we say is an exploit is in their eyes) and can reproduce them.

Just be aware in your case as this is users exploiting you're very unlikely to get an answer back as it will be about player disciplinary action if any is taken.

Rickter

sounds like the ol' Macro Slice TM

seriously though, if its been in the last 5 days, its probably lag.

Sorcs are notorious for being able to ani cancel insta cast frags

get nuked, son

disclaimer: I hate mag sorcs, they are the bane of my existence.

Kay1

Damn, I can also fire 4 skills at once on a Sorc in console.

Zenimax don't ban me please

Vaoh

Turelus wrote: »

@JamieAubrey just be aware you can't post that video publicly on these forums.

Even if people demand proof of you it's against the forums rules and you'll just be moderated. If you have evidence of it then you're better passing it over to ZOS directly and having them to review it.

When I reported something recently I sent it to Jessica, Gina, Rich and Wrobel (it was a skill/gameplay exploit) with information of what it was and when/how it was being done. I also notified each of them who else I had sent it to (so they could let others know if easier than sending it on again).
I then politely notified Gina via Twitter that she had a message about an exploit if she could take a look when she got a free moment.

Three weeks later it was patched out and I had a message from Wrobel saying it had been addressed and thanks.

So again the issues are addressed if they see them, agree they're an issue (not everything we say is an exploit is in their eyes) and can reproduce them.

Just be aware in your case as this is users exploiting you're very unlikely to get an answer back as it will be about player disciplinary action if any is taken.

Not too sure about that. There have been videos of lots of sketchy stuff on these Forums that weren't taken down. Things like 100+m gap closers, macroslices, Pheonix bug and self-revive exploit, and so much more.

As long as they aren't instructional or something showing the Out of Map area of a trial it should be fine.

Kay1

SkillzMFG wrote: »

Played Sorc since beta I assure you that you CANNOT fire off 3 abilities at once no matter how good are you at animation cancelling.
On the other hand I never cheated and used outside help for this game so who knows?

You clearly haven't

I know is not a common discussion but any godlike player know how to triple cancel, but, only Nightblades and Sorcerers have access to it and I strongly believe it's broken but it's very hard to do it and it's not worthy at all (it's maybe easy to do it on PC) I also don't believe the OP got killed by a player exploiting the heavy triple cancel, he just got rekt by lag or maybe from a player using macros like he claimed.

Turelus

Vaoh wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

JamieAubrey just be aware you can't post that video publicly on these forums.

Even if people demand proof of you it's against the forums rules and you'll just be moderated. If you have evidence of it then you're better passing it over to ZOS directly and having them to review it.

When I reported something recently I sent it to Jessica, Gina, Rich and Wrobel (it was a skill/gameplay exploit) with information of what it was and when/how it was being done. I also notified each of them who else I had sent it to (so they could let others know if easier than sending it on again).
I then politely notified Gina via Twitter that she had a message about an exploit if she could take a look when she got a free moment.

Three weeks later it was patched out and I had a message from Wrobel saying it had been addressed and thanks.

So again the issues are addressed if they see them, agree they're an issue (not everything we say is an exploit is in their eyes) and can reproduce them.

Just be aware in your case as this is users exploiting you're very unlikely to get an answer back as it will be about player disciplinary action if any is taken.

Not too sure about that. There have been videos of lots of sketchy stuff on these Forums that weren't taken down. Things like 100+m gap closers, macroslices, Pheonix bug and self-revive exploit, and so much more.

As long as they aren't instructional or something showing the Out of Map area of a trial it should be fine.

I think showing an actual player you're saying is exploiting is going to be flagged for name and shame though.

They might let it go, but I very much doubt it with the context this video would be posted in. If Jamie can edit the video to remove all names I think it'll be fine however.

JDC1985

25k shield is not an exploit, Marcos actually make your abilities go off slower and you have no idea what your talking about.

bottleofsyrup

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Its not lag/macro slice/etc

You can clearly see 1 sorc spamming skills and managing to keep shields UP AT ALL TIMES

I CAN'T EVEN DO THIS, Its either spam my shields to stay alive or try to use skills and die, all while being attacked by 10+ but if it was the enemy sorc with 10+ he manages to keeps shields UP ALWAYS

git gud?

andreasranasen

Vaoh wrote: »

Sounds like a sort of "macroslice". You sure you didn't just lag?

I've never seen this and you wrote out a post in all caps claiming there's an exploit with no video evidence of someone killing you this way

Totally lag happens on console for me all the time

Vaoh

Turelus wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

JamieAubrey just be aware you can't post that video publicly on these forums.

Even if people demand proof of you it's against the forums rules and you'll just be moderated. If you have evidence of it then you're better passing it over to ZOS directly and having them to review it.

When I reported something recently I sent it to Jessica, Gina, Rich and Wrobel (it was a skill/gameplay exploit) with information of what it was and when/how it was being done. I also notified each of them who else I had sent it to (so they could let others know if easier than sending it on again).
I then politely notified Gina via Twitter that she had a message about an exploit if she could take a look when she got a free moment.

Three weeks later it was patched out and I had a message from Wrobel saying it had been addressed and thanks.

So again the issues are addressed if they see them, agree they're an issue (not everything we say is an exploit is in their eyes) and can reproduce them.

Just be aware in your case as this is users exploiting you're very unlikely to get an answer back as it will be about player disciplinary action if any is taken.

Not too sure about that. There have been videos of lots of sketchy stuff on these Forums that weren't taken down. Things like 100+m gap closers, macroslices, Pheonix bug and self-revive exploit, and so much more.

As long as they aren't instructional or something showing the Out of Map area of a trial it should be fine.

I think showing an actual player you're saying is exploiting is going to be flagged for name and shame though.

They might let it go, but I very much doubt it with the context this video would be posted in. If Jamie can edit the video to remove all names I think it'll be fine however.

Ahh Name and Shame.... forgot about that. In that case I def agree editing names out should be enough.

I want to see what they're doing. Already I have an idea of something that might trigger it. If what Jamie found is what I'm thinking of then it's going to be a serious problem that people are abusing it.

Universe

His name starts with "Alu..." ? or the other one "I Only..."(Don't give name so it won't be naming and shaming).
Then I know who it is.
Yes some people are macroing
I hope someday ZOS will do something about it.

Asardes

Lord wrote: »

His name starts with "Alu..." ? or the other one "I Only..."(Don't give name so it won't be naming and shaming).
Then I know who it is.
Yes some people are macroing
I hope someday ZOS will do something about it.

I happened to kill the latter for some nice, red dye and 100 achievement points. It throws the negate on the zerg or it takes the Mnem scroll away to Warden

Malamar1229

Some players have macros that will bar swap, throw up shield, bar swap back to destro bar all with 1 button. There are youtube videos showing how to do this.

Zer0oo

Not sure what op meant(firing 5 light attacks off at once) but maybe that and not sure if it works in combat.

(If it is against the forum rules pls remove the image)