Would you want a "class re-choose" token/option in the game?

Zolron

SilverWF wrote: »

If they would do all list below account wide:
* All skyshards
* All achievments
* All lorebooks
* Mount training
* Alliance War rank
* All guilds rank
then, no need in class change token for me.
Until this - I'm strongly UP for it.

^^^^ so much this
Although just placing the lorebooks and skyshards on our maps would go a long way !!

aisriyth_ESO

SilverWF wrote: »

If they would do all list below account wide:
* All skyshards
* All achievments
* All lorebooks
* Mount training
* Alliance War rank
* All guilds rank
then, no need in class change token for me.
Until this - I'm strongly UP for it.

Achievements and Alliance war would be good for me, mount training as well*

The rest i think needs to stay as is.

*I can tolerate the system of training as an arbitrary pseudo gold sink and an incentive to buy crowns manuals for new chars. However, at least throw us a bone here and if you are ESO+ allow us to do 3 training a day or something. Hell, lets go crazy and put training back on the mounts themselves but make more armor, saddle options so we can customize our mounts more!

Enodoc

aisriyth_ESO wrote: »

Hell, lets go crazy and put training back on the mounts themselves but make more armor, saddle options so we can customize our mounts more!

I'd be all for that. It would make more sense to have account-wide training per mount, since it would make more sense to be training your mount rather than your character.

Stuhlfleisch

Enodoc wrote: »

aisriyth_ESO wrote: »

Hell, lets go crazy and put training back on the mounts themselves but make more armor, saddle options so we can customize our mounts more!

I'd be all for that. It would make more sense to have account-wide training per mount, since it would make more sense to be training your mount rather than your character.

Nice idea, more saddles/armor etc.+ the account wide mount training would be a great addition. :P

Ceridwynne

I would like this but it's for an extremely petty reason. I have 2 failed templars before I settled on the 3rd templar being my main. The failures became my master crafter and a bank alt with max bag and horse speed, so I have no desire to delete them. I wish I could change their classes to the 2 that I am missing, maybe then I would play them. It just really bugs me to have 3 temps when I could have one of each class.

Jamini

I would support this only if it reset your character level and skyshard count to base level.

Monster status/Quest Status/Motif and Trait knowledge/Achivments/Horse training? Keep it. But if you are playing as a new class, you need to level the new class from the start. No freebies.

Enodoc

Jamini wrote: »

I would support this only if it reset your character level and skyshard count to base level.

Monster status/Quest Status/Motif and Trait knowledge/Achivments/Horse training? Keep it. But if you are playing as a new class, you need to level the new class from the start. No freebies.

OP already said that you'd be levelling the new class from the start. Why does that mean you'd need to level the character from the start too?

Jamini

Enodoc wrote: »

Jamini wrote: »

I would support this only if it reset your character level and skyshard count to base level.

Monster status/Quest Status/Motif and Trait knowledge/Achivments/Horse training? Keep it. But if you are playing as a new class, you need to level the new class from the start. No freebies.

OP already said that you'd be leveling the new class from the start. Why does that mean you'd need to level the character from the start too?

1. Discourages FOTM respeccing
2. Gives the player time to learn how their abilities work/how their new class works.
3. No immediate CP-level of [Newclass] going straight into vet dungeons.
4. Encourages people to run alts to play different classes, while allowing people to respec for the "I would have made him a [NEWCLASS] if it had been out when I started." crowd to remain pleased.

eso_nya

Long ago there was a time where u couldnt grp crossfaction. As my friends r spread across all the factions, i made a healer in every faction.
Now we can grp crossfaction, and i have 3 templars. Turned one into stamplar, one stayed, 3rd became redundant.

Wouldnt mind losing level, (most) skillprogress and skillpoints (given quests, lorebooks and skyshards r resetted aswell).
What i wouldnt wanna lose:
- 180 days of horsefeedin/ridinglessons
- more than 200 days into research (woodworking complete, blacksmith/clothier halfway thru 8th trait)
- annoying to get achievments (e.g. daedric lord slayer, explorer, master angler)
- motif-/receipe knowledge
- AvA rank (okay that skillprogress would be tough to lose)

I am a terribad altoholic, but i still dont have a stamsorc and magblade atm (i swapped sorc and nb between the two alot), so swapping to one of those would be really nice. Was actually hoping to be allowed to swap a toon to warden. (Fun fact: If there had been a classchange token, id bought it and swapped the toon. As there wasnt but i got the bankspaceupgrade, i just deleted my 2 storage alts and used the slots for mag and stam warden xD)

I do get the point behind "no p2w/swap to fotm" argument. But than we have racechengers for a while now, and yet i dont see a majority of <insert fotm race here>.

Insandros

Definetely not. non sens to me. Only thing i'd be fore is, keeping your crafting levels and motifs learned and mount feed, but loosing all shards, lorebooks, levels and skills. And only once per character.

PS4_ZeColmeia

I honestly don't care about people wanting to change classes as you can get from 0-50 in 8 hours if you grind properly and can have enough skills to properly play within 4-8 more hours. So since you can make any class, any race combo you want the only people that have some value to this are those who have played since launch and only have 1 character with 0 interest in making an alt and investing anytime in it.

While I fall into that bucket, and would be tempted on occasion to do it, I play solo most of the time and NB just fits that playstyle so well I couldn't really ever change.

I don't oppose it, but I don't see any value in it TBH with how easy it is to level in this game.

Jamascus

Solariken wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Not really, I feel like we need to have character creation choices mean something... we're only class and alliance change tokens away from never actually needing to make a permanent choice in the game.

This argument makes no sense, though it's touted often in class change discussion. If you want your class choice to be permanent, then you don't ever have to change it. But why should you want to limit what other people do with theirs? Why do you care?

Classes are completely arbitrary. There is no reason whatsoever not to allow some form of class change, or better yet, a complete dissolution of ESO's class system which is an abomination to what TES fans expect from character building.

This^

Sheey

1000€ exclusiv

Mazbt

Wouldn't' be a priority thing for me but I'm not against getting it implemented.

Stuhlfleisch

Mazbt wrote: »

Wouldn't' be a priority thing for me but I'm not against getting it implemented.

Well, better than not liking it. :P

PlagueSD

GizmoX64 wrote: »

Yes please.
Or as someone said before, get rid of classes all together and just make it a skill line.
Or Mulit-class like RIFT, Guild Wars, Runes of Magic, etc.

Lol, multi-class...

You know how many SorcDKplars we'd have running around???

Stuhlfleisch

PlagueSD wrote: »

GizmoX64 wrote: »

Yes please.
Or as someone said before, get rid of classes all together and just make it a skill line.
Or Mulit-class like RIFT, Guild Wars, Runes of Magic, etc.

Lol, multi-class...

You know how many SorcDKplars we'd have running around???

Yeah, I think multiclass would be asking a bit too much in terms of rebalancing the whole thing. I would be happy with that one time use class change, that let´s you change back to your original class, but not more.

Stuhlfleisch

*bump* (hate me)

inf.toniceb17_ESO

Hell yes. I even i agree to re-level my toon all the way up to 50 if i can keep my achievments, mount skills and such stuff.

Keep_Door

I think i voted no but i have changed my mind, let people waste money to switch to a FoTM class and realize its not as OP as they initially thought and change back.

Stuhlfleisch

Keep_Door wrote: »

I think i voted no but i have changed my mind, let people waste money to switch to a FoTM class and realize its not as OP as they initially thought and change back.

I think it´s all a matter of preference, I, for example, would change my sorc to a NB, simply, because I like the style and the effects of the class more, than the ones of the sorc. :P

Stuhlfleisch

inf.toniceb17_ESO wrote: »

Hell yes. I even i agree to re-level my toon all the way up to 50 if i can keep my achievments, mount skills and such stuff.

Well, yeah ok,the re-level wouldn´t be that bad, considering everything else would stay.

PlagueSD

Zolron wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

If they would do all list below account wide:
* All skyshards
* All achievments
* All lorebooks
* Mount training
* Alliance War rank
* All guilds rank
then, no need in class change token for me.
Until this - I'm strongly UP for it.

^^^^ so much this
Although just placing the lorebooks and skyshards on our maps would go a long way !!

I bet you're a console player. There's addons that do just what you want for PC:

Lorebooks:
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info288-LoreBooks.html

Skyshards:
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info128-SkyShards.html

Arthur_Spoonfondle

SilverWF wrote: »

If they would do all list below account wide:
* All skyshards
* All achievments
* All lorebooks
* Mount training
* Alliance War rank
* All guilds rank
then, no need in class change token for me.
Until this - I'm strongly UP for it.

Tell you what, pay 10,000 credits and you get everything, all the above, all your characters maximum level, full quota of CP, a full set of top-notch gear and all future characters get the lot too. With all that you don't even have to level a single character, all the lazy, I-want-it-now players with money to spend will be happy and Zos will be counting the profits. The rest of us can go and look for something better to play, Zos won't care.

Stuhlfleisch

bump

ArchMikem

I'm going to say Yes, for the sake of there being more options out there for everyone. However I wouldn't ever use it myself. I've formed an attachment to my characters and who/what they are. Katt's my Nightblade, Tazrah's my Templar, and Dehyesha's my Sorc etc. It'd be weird for them to suddenly be something entirely different.

Tommy_The_Gun

Yes...But I don't think I would uses it.... at lest on my main character....

Stuhlfleisch

ArchMikem wrote: »

I'm going to say Yes, for the sake of there being more options out there for everyone. However I wouldn't ever use it myself. I've formed an attachment to my characters and who/what they are. Katt's my Nightblade, Tazrah's my Templar, and Dehyesha's my Sorc etc. It'd be weird for them to suddenly be something entirely different.

Thanks for your support. ^^

Belazaar

I wouldn't mind the alt route, just wish more things were account based like crafting and achievements.

Idinuse

White wabbit wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Knightpanther wrote: »

Defo, my main was maxed out on crafting, shards and pretty much all achievements a soloer can get, having to do all that again on my new warden is a pain, but at least its a fun class to play.

Cheers

Sorry but why do you need to do all that again ?

Because new characters don't have them? That's the primary reason for wanting class change - to keep your existing content progress (questing, crafting, skyshards, etc) while being able to experience a different class from scratch.

Sorry but why does a new character have to have it all

Completionism. Having incomplete completion targets is a major turn off with regards to new character creation. If a completionist doesn't see themselves completing all the content again, they won't create a new character, regardless of how much they want to try a new class.

Sorry but never turned me off from trying a new class I'm on my 10th character just all seems a few lazy people can't be bothered to put some effort in for the reward and just want the easy route

This is not always the truth. I've played my main for well over 5,000 hours since April 2014. I have all my achievements on her. I have all trophies on her. I have an AvA rank of 40 on her. I've been crowned Empress on her. She has all stats full on her mount. She is a Master crafter. There are so many reasons and hours invested in her that when her class gets nerfed to the ground it breaks my heart and pains my soul if she would be degraded to an ignoble mule and crafter.

A class change token would be the smallest of courtesies from Zos to her, and me and my time.

I try new classes alright. That's not what is causing me sorrow. It is having invested so much in a character only to see it gimped and less and less played.

I'd rather see her put to the use she was created for, granting hours of enjoyment under a new class.

After all, isn't that what a videogame is all about?