Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »More one time, AD try ASH and more one time, AD lost a home. Some AD work to EP. More one EMP elect for AD at ASH.
http://imgur.com/a/ypgeV
Agrippa
What you say? (right now in Vivec)
As I said before. EP isn't your friend. If we're strong enough to crown, we will. If not, we don't.
After the crowning, the best thing you could do for your own points earnings is get Roe/Nik back asap, take Ash, and then push Rayles/Glade. Let EP grab Warden and NiMohk and take Alma Ruma for yourselves and then gatecamp DC.
That kneecaps DC and keeps EP busy. Suddenly you're pushing closer to second.
AD's not getting first this campaign. The thing to do that's in your own best interest is to take the easier path to second, which is to stick a knife in DC and catch up to their lower score.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »More one time, AD try ASH and more one time, AD lost a home. Some AD work to EP. More one EMP elect for AD at ASH.
http://imgur.com/a/ypgeV
Agrippa
What you say? (right now in Vivec)
As I said before. EP isn't your friend. If we're strong enough to crown, we will. If not, we don't.
After the crowning, the best thing you could do for your own points earnings is get Roe/Nik back asap, take Ash, and then push Rayles/Glade. Let EP grab Warden and NiMohk and take Alma Ruma for yourselves and then gatecamp DC.
That kneecaps DC and keeps EP busy. Suddenly you're pushing closer to second.
AD's not getting first this campaign. The thing to do that's in your own best interest is to take the easier path to second, which is to stick a knife in DC and catch up to their lower score.
This is about the worst advice ever. Why would you tell another person to settle for second? With EP pushing a nearly 800 pt lead, everyone should focus EP, especially their home keeps. It is actually the only way, for either blue or yellow to finish in first. I agree that yellow should hit blue as well, if they want a first place win. But the minute EP tries to take back one of their inner keeps, both blue and yellow should hit hard. And that's about the only advice there is.
At this point, though, I'm sure most players are just earning enough AP to get their gold rewards and have fun. Campaign is pretty much over, especially when EP caps everything before every maintenance/patch. Sure wish that zos would stop ticks during downtime. But earning pts this way doesn't make it any less cheesy.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »When first isn't attainable, second becomes the goal.
But hey, you're DC, I don't expect you to like it, nor do I care if you do..
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »When first isn't attainable, second becomes the goal.
But hey, you're DC, I don't expect you to like it, nor do I care if you do..
Second is meaningless in this game. Maybe 5k more gold. Please, don't even. And I'm honestly fine with whoever wins the campaign. But I still think EP has been really cheesy with the "cap everything before maintenance/patch" stuff. I'm pretty sure many agree with me. But hey...win by any means necessary, right?
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »When first isn't attainable, second becomes the goal.
But hey, you're DC, I don't expect you to like it, nor do I care if you do..
Second is meaningless in this game. Maybe 5k more gold. Please, don't even. And I'm honestly fine with whoever wins the campaign. But I still think EP has been really cheesy with the "cap everything before maintenance/patch" stuff. I'm pretty sure many agree with me. But hey...win by any means necessary, right?
Which is why pop locking the server at 8-9am with oceanics vs 1-2 bars and capping the server is better, right?
Hypocrisy at its finest.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »AD need less constant toxic banter with one another, more people willing to lead and teach and effectively be open to teamwork. But then again that has been said for months.
That was exactly the reason at the end of 2016 I lefted AD for EP. AD guilds and players for the most part was so insufferable. That I rerolled 6 of my established Max Level characters to EP. Have been EP since not much complaints about EP. I think I'll stay here with my 10 EP characters.
Strange, AD win in this year... u dont like win? And try dont be toxic in this topic, ty.
Its terrible see my faction completelly desmoralized...
http://imgur.com/a/nO0lM
The old ideas do not seem to accept the 'new', which is new, the new players with their 'win for victory'. It seems like some old ideas, insist on the routine and routine that has taken my faction, AD, its fifth consecutive defeat. The old ideas seem to loathe the creativity of new players.
It is not common to see the old ideas form their groups and require absurd prerequisites to participate in these groups. I, with my 200 CP, am the 49 in rank AD and without making much effort. I believe that the will of the new players, low level's, surpasses the old routines, the old ideas in absolutely EVERYTHING. AD needs leaders to teach young people how campaigns are, how to fight, etc. Some groups simply discourage the younger ones, just see when they require a minimum of 300 CP to join the group (crystal-saving? laziness to teach the younger ones? or just arrogance, ... a minimum CP as 'ostentation' something in a local chat? - I believe in the latter hypothesis: arrogance).
This is what AD needs: new blood, oxygenated, willing to fight in something that believes and not for 'titles' or ... miserable dots ... called AP. AD, for its history deserves much more than it exists today, this history is a history of victories and much struggle.
Humility, sincerity, solidarity - not being afraid of criticism or looking at criticism as something negative (criticism is a prerequisite for maturation) - are prerequisites for winning when we are playing anything in collective and that is exactly what the current AD lacks.
Iskras
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »AD need less constant toxic banter with one another, more people willing to lead and teach and effectively be open to teamwork. But then again that has been said for months.
That was exactly the reason at the end of 2016 I lefted AD for EP. AD guilds and players for the most part was so insufferable. That I rerolled 6 of my established Max Level characters to EP. Have been EP since not much complaints about EP. I think I'll stay here with my 10 EP characters.
Strange, AD win in this year... u dont like win? And try dont be toxic in this topic, ty.
YeahIts terrible see my faction completelly desmoralized...
http://imgur.com/a/nO0lM
The old ideas do not seem to accept the 'new', which is new, the new players with their 'win for victory'. It seems like some old ideas, insist on the routine and routine that has taken my faction, AD, its fifth consecutive defeat. The old ideas seem to loathe the creativity of new players.
It is not common to see the old ideas form their groups and require absurd prerequisites to participate in these groups. I, with my 200 CP, am the 49 in rank AD and without making much effort. I believe that the will of the new players, low level's, surpasses the old routines, the old ideas in absolutely EVERYTHING. AD needs leaders to teach young people how campaigns are, how to fight, etc. Some groups simply discourage the younger ones, just see when they require a minimum of 300 CP to join the group (crystal-saving? laziness to teach the younger ones? or just arrogance, ... a minimum CP as 'ostentation' something in a local chat? - I believe in the latter hypothesis: arrogance).
This is what AD needs: new blood, oxygenated, willing to fight in something that believes and not for 'titles' or ... miserable dots ... called AP. AD, for its history deserves much more than it exists today, this history is a history of victories and much struggle.
Humility, sincerity, solidarity - not being afraid of criticism or looking at criticism as something negative (criticism is a prerequisite for maturation) - are prerequisites for winning when we are playing anything in collective and that is exactly what the current AD lacks.
Iskras
As I said earlier. When I came back to the game from a 4 month break seeing my old guild disbanded. I was met with this garbage. Needless to say my account hasn't had 7 AD characters on it for since 2016. Re-rolling EP was one of the best choices I've made in this game.
If that's how those players want to abuse other new faces in the name of their fun. Fine by me. Re-rolling these days is not as hard as it was back then.
This is exactly why AD gets crushed now. Because they want to be absolute arse hats towards the newer guys. Or players they don't know. So people like find it more fun to add to the pools that smashing their faces in. Instead of siting their taking their crap all of the time in Cyrodiil.
I feels no pitty for AD. May AD only be lefted with those *** till they decide to quit the game. Because their is no one left for them to give grief to. Instead they are the ones taken the grief from the once victims, now predators.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Well no offense, but If your Zergs spent more time hitting ep when they're in first instead of taking glade out from under us when ep is sitting in first place with empower, then this would be a different campaign. Frankly ad in general has done nothing but double team us with ep. In fact I watched ep and ad hit a keep about a week ago and then ep just walked away, and never once did ep and ad fight. Its been like this all of last campaign and even worse this time. We have been fighting off reds and yellows contantly. The result is that ep basically gets a free ride to first while ad is guaranteed last place.
In a three way scoring system, taking points from first doesn't net you a path to second if you're in third place. It nets you a path to third. That's because 2nd place's earnings will continue to outstrip yours and at best the first place team will flag and lose the gap that they have, maybe even dropping them into 2nd. In the end, this leaves the third place team still in third place.
To advance in the standings, they need to reduce the earnings that 2nd has so that 2nd finds themselves in third, and this has allowed 3rd to advance to 2nd.
Guild Wars 2 WvWvW showed similar issues where, once the lead was large enough, 1st would be allowed to grow while 2nd and 3rd duked it out for 2nd place.
In short, the only people that benefit out of AD hitting EP is DC. And, well, who cares what they want?
You must be an ep zergling. So I can see where you'd be scared of an even fight. Anyway, of course it wouldn't guarantee them second place, they'd still have to work for it, but they could also choose to hit ep, and not have ep be so high above ad in score as to be completely unbeatable. It would level the playing field and make it a real three faction fight instead of a two faction fight between dc and ep with ad doing whatever it is they do.
If you can't read my signature to figure out my faction, well, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure you'll figure it out in due time.
But hey, bring it. I'm all about the dogpiling and the overwhelming numbers. I endured Bloodthorn for three months at launch. There's nothing you can do to me and mine that compares to that level of sheer overwhelming numbers and utter animosity. The more and harder you zerg, the more AP I earn. There's a reason, on average, the typical EP player has a higher AP earnings per campaign than the other two factions. We're constantly getting zerged along the Bleakers and Sejanus corridors. I've gone to the Nikel corridor and on some days I can go 15+ minutes without seeing another player. We are used to the double team, we don't fear it, and it feeds us.
And no, no amount of AD hitting EP will get them back into the fight. They never, ever, ever catch DC in that scenario. They consistantly remain 1000+ points behind and all it does is bring EP down to DC's level, at best, if they are successful.
As an AD player, who gives a hoot about what's best for DC? I wouldn't. The only way for AD to actually move out of third is to hit whomever is second until that second place team falls into third. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's mathematical fact.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »More one time, AD try ASH and more one time, AD lost a home. Some AD work to EP. More one EMP elect for AD at ASH.
http://imgur.com/a/ypgeV
Agrippa
What you say? (right now in Vivec)
As I said before. EP isn't your friend. If we're strong enough to crown, we will. If not, we don't.
After the crowning, the best thing you could do for your own points earnings is get Roe/Nik back asap, take Ash, and then push Rayles/Glade. Let EP grab Warden and NiMohk and take Alma Ruma for yourselves and then gatecamp DC.
That kneecaps DC and keeps EP busy. Suddenly you're pushing closer to second.
Sure, i understand this. But, here i talk about AD strategy and tatic's.
Let me restate then. My previous post was in the context of : "If Agrippa was an AD guild/raid leader". I'm not, obviously, but if I was that's what I'd do.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »More one time, AD try ASH and more one time, AD lost a home. Some AD work to EP. More one EMP elect for AD at ASH.
http://imgur.com/a/ypgeV
Agrippa
What you say? (right now in Vivec)
As I said before. EP isn't your friend. If we're strong enough to crown, we will. If not, we don't.
After the crowning, the best thing you could do for your own points earnings is get Roe/Nik back asap, take Ash, and then push Rayles/Glade. Let EP grab Warden and NiMohk and take Alma Ruma for yourselves and then gatecamp DC.
That kneecaps DC and keeps EP busy. Suddenly you're pushing closer to second.
Sure, i understand this. But, here i talk about AD strategy and tatic's.
Let me restate then. My previous post was in the context of : "If Agrippa was an AD guild/raid leader". I'm not, obviously, but if I was that's what I'd do.
You should come try it sometime. The being the leader in the dumbminion thing that is. Not the not being that thing what khajiit said you should be. Living that hard life fighting the unending tide of people who beat up Telel will vastly improve your skill as a player.
Not to mention show you that some of those easy to farm Dumbminion elves are in fact Griffs in clever disguises.
It'll also drive you as mad as a dumbmer being told they're silly but this is a small thing when compared to fighting side by side with someone you like to chase around yes?
And then you too can complain about, and try to fix, a map that looks like this....,
While being called a zergling by the blokes who need multiple raids to take the empty keeps from the team with the smallest population..........
Every day....
Even when they're losing scrolls....
Truly Telel lives a blessedly fun life....
Nightenhowl wrote: »Long live Nikel mile gate.
Where AD are farmed every day.
antihero727 wrote: »Nightenhowl wrote: »Long live Nikel mile gate.
Where AD are farmed every day.
Are you still under the impression anyone besides NML or other troll like players care for your opinion? Put a little sugar on your comments because this glass totally empty thing is getting old quickly. Just play and have fun, you can't control other players no matter how much you belittle them daily.
doublestuffed wrote: »antihero727 wrote: »Nightenhowl wrote: »Long live Nikel mile gate.
Where AD are farmed every day.
Are you still under the impression anyone besides NML or other troll like players care for your opinion? Put a little sugar on your comments because this glass totally empty thing is getting old quickly. Just play and have fun, you can't control other players no matter how much you belittle them daily.
I bet he's Erdogan, Duterte, or Putin. Thats why he feels like he needs to control a faction.
stealthyevil wrote: »This game is not competitive enough to show commitment everyday to grabbing score. To people who have fun pushing score then GG, go out there and have fun. I think a large portion of PvP groups just want to find good fights and if winning the campaign is a bi-product of that, so be it. Winning a campaign means absolutely nothing. Truth hurts, get used to it and maybe you guys can have some fun for once.
stealthyevil wrote: »This game is not competitive enough to show commitment everyday to grabbing score. To people who have fun pushing score then GG, go out there and have fun. I think a large portion of PvP groups just want to find good fights and if winning the campaign is a bi-product of that, so be it. Winning a campaign means absolutely nothing. Truth hurts, get used to it and maybe you guys can have some fun for once.
stealthyevil wrote: »This game is not competitive enough to show commitment everyday to grabbing score. To people who have fun pushing score then GG, go out there and have fun. I think a large portion of PvP groups just want to find good fights and if winning the campaign is a bi-product of that, so be it. Winning a campaign means absolutely nothing. Truth hurts, get used to it and maybe you guys can have some fun for once.
My fun is win campaigns
stealthyevil wrote: »stealthyevil wrote: »This game is not competitive enough to show commitment everyday to grabbing score. To people who have fun pushing score then GG, go out there and have fun. I think a large portion of PvP groups just want to find good fights and if winning the campaign is a bi-product of that, so be it. Winning a campaign means absolutely nothing. Truth hurts, get used to it and maybe you guys can have some fun for once.
My fun is win campaigns
Good. Then you do you. Don't talk *** about your faction in zone every single day, this is a game. People play it to have fun, weather it be pushing objectives, getting kills or sitting in a field waiting to horse gank someone.
stealthyevil wrote: »stealthyevil wrote: »This game is not competitive enough to show commitment everyday to grabbing score. To people who have fun pushing score then GG, go out there and have fun. I think a large portion of PvP groups just want to find good fights and if winning the campaign is a bi-product of that, so be it. Winning a campaign means absolutely nothing. Truth hurts, get used to it and maybe you guys can have some fun for once.
My fun is win campaigns
Good. Then you do you. Don't talk *** about your faction in zone every single day, this is a game. People play it to have fun, weather it be pushing objectives, getting kills or sitting in a field waiting to horse gank someone.
Agree